Can Diablo 3 match upto todays high standard rpg's ?

Can Diablo 3 from Blizzard ( upcoming action rpg for PC ) match upto todays generation rpg's which are taking rpg to the next level in terms of graphics and gameplay ( The Witcher 2 , Dark Souls , Skyrim , Mass Effect 3 ) ?

Discuss :)

Can Diablo 3 from Blizzard ( upcoming action rpg for PC ) match upto todays generation rpg's which are taking rpg to the next level in terms of graphics and gameplay ( The Witcher 2 , Dark Souls , Skyrim , Mass effect 3 ) ?

Discuss :)

indzman

Action rpgs aren't about the story or dialogue choices, they're about getting loot and killing monsters.

Seems like it. The subgenre of RPGs that Diablo 3 represents haven't progressed much. Soldak does icredible job at innovating in this space, but they're petite indie dev and their influence on the whole industry is none.

Unlike most of it's direct competition Diablo 3 definitly shows huge jumps in gameplay formula, the way the combat is handled, the use of physics and most of all the vast improvements in multiplayer should all be more than enough to make it seem ahead of the curve actually.

Look at Blizzard's track record, the answer should be obvious.

While Diablo 3 does not interest me one bit. Soldak's products are more appealing and so is Torchlight 2. It certainly does not look like a bad game. When Mass Effect 3, Witcher 2, Dragon Age 3, Skyrim and Dark Souls will be long forgotten, people will still be playing Diablo 3, just for that chance (as little as it may be) for some shiny loot.

Speaking of Diablo 3, I just wanted to express my controversial opinoin that the RMAH is a good thing for the game.

Blizzard have made some of the best games ever made, and they are among the elite. Diablo III WILL be a AAA game.

You might as well ask:

Is Blizzard awesome at making games?

The answer is yes. Their games come out very polished and they put a lot of effort into them.

Yes. The games you listed are not very similar to Diablo III, but DIII will put all other RPGs to shame.

No. Diablo has never been about a deep RPG experience, it is about the simple pleasure of kill and loot. In fact, I won't be in the least surprised if it doesn't even manage a AAA rating here. Won't stop it from being very fun and popular though.DerekLoffin

Diablo 2 got an 8.5. I expect GameSpot to 8.5 this game as well...if not lower.

It will match up sure, Blizzard makes good games.

Will it surpass them? Well probably not, but it depends on your taste of course. I think it will great, but hardly transcendent. I'm looking more forward to ME3 and GW2.

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]No. Diablo has never been about a deep RPG experience, it is about the simple pleasure of kill and loot. In fact, I won't be in the least surprised if it doesn't even manage a AAA rating here. Won't stop it from being very fun and popular though.peterw007

Diablo 2 got an 8.5. I expect GameSpot to 8.5 this game as well...if not lower.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]No. Diablo has never been about a deep RPG experience, it is about the simple pleasure of kill and loot. In fact, I won't be in the least surprised if it doesn't even manage a AAA rating here. Won't stop it from being very fun and popular though.AdrianWerner

Diablo 2 got an 8.5. I expect GameSpot to 8.5 this game as well...if not lower.

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]No. Diablo has never been about a deep RPG experience, it is about the simple pleasure of kill and loot. In fact, I won't be in the least surprised if it doesn't even manage a AAA rating here. Won't stop it from being very fun and popular though.peterw007

Diablo 2 got an 8.5. I expect GameSpot to 8.5 this game as well...if not lower.

Thats GameSpot fail, not Diablo fail though.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]No. Diablo has never been about a deep RPG experience, it is about the simple pleasure of kill and loot. In fact, I won't be in the least surprised if it doesn't even manage a AAA rating here. Won't stop it from being very fun and popular though.BlbecekBobecek

Diablo 2 got an 8.5. I expect GameSpot to 8.5 this game as well...if not lower.

Thats GameSpot fail, not Diablo fail though.

GR has DII at 88%, LoD at 86%. So yeah, GS isn't that too far off.

As another poster had said, Diablo is a great and addicting game. But if you're gonna analyze it, it's just loot and kill.

Look at Blizzard's track record, the answer should be obvious.

superfluidity

Can Diablo 3 from Blizzard ( upcoming action rpg for PC ) match upto todays generation rpg's which are taking rpg to the next level in terms of graphics and gameplay ( The Witcher 2 , Dark Souls , Skyrim , Mass Effect 3 ) ?

Discuss :)

indzman

Very different game types, also ME3 is a third person shooter.

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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Diablo 2 got an 8.5. I expect GameSpot to 8.5 this game as well...if not lower.

DerekLoffin

You are right about one thing: it isn't hard to look this up, so next time please do.

it looks mediocre

they are trying to make it World of Warcraft and less Diablo, they cant find a perfect balance and even worse, they are dumbing it down for consoles

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Can Diablo 3 from Blizzard ( upcoming action rpg for PC ) match upto todays generation rpg's which are taking rpg to the next level in terms of graphics and gameplay ( The Witcher 2 , Dark Souls , Skyrim , Mass Effect 3 ) ?

Discuss :)

tenaka2

Very different game types, also ME3 is a third person shooter.

The Diablo games are about TEH loots and the dungeons!!!!

and they do it very very very well

Can Diablo 3 from Blizzard ( upcoming action rpg for PC ) match upto todays generation rpg's which are taking rpg to the next level in terms of graphics and gameplay ( The Witcher 2 , Dark Souls , Skyrim , Mass Effect 3 ) ?

Discuss :)

indzman

They are just different games, each has its own appeal

I agree though that comparing to Dark Souls, D3 will be rather basic and old school, cliking a mouse button to fight is as simple as it gets really

The real problem with Diablo 3 is that with the fancy cartoon graphics has lost 99% of its atmosphere and appeal to me

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Well...Blizzard has never made a game that would score lower than 9.0 at Gamespot, would be pretty weird to assume Diablo 3 will be a start of that.

AdrianWerner

You are right about one thing: it isn't hard to look this up, so next time please do.

If you were busy looking it up you'd know that Condor wanted to make a bizarro game with claymation graphics and all sorts of ****** up stuff going on. Blizzard reigned them in, and guided the series to completion with Diablo 1 and 2. There are some very prominent Blizzard names/developers involved with Diablo prior to 3 that made it what it is. You can't just go and ignore that. They took on Blizzard's name for a reason. hensothor

Afterall.. BlizzNorth's Diablo 3 was completely scrapped and then project started from stratch again in main Blizzard offices. This proves alone that Blizzard's control over the project was always limited.

No it cant, but if you like "old school" click click click click click click click -action games it going to be very fun the first few hours until your fingers cant move :P

The real problem with Diablo 3 is that with the fancy cartoon graphics has lost 99% of its atmosphere and appeal to me

loosingENDS

Same here. I just don't think "dark fantasy" when I see D3's graphics ...

ye it can and it will be awesome, blizzrd is one of the few companies that still delivers quality instead of doing cheap tricks to get cash (im looking at you bioware)

yes it will. blizzard has never failed to meet expectations and I doubt they'll give in now.

[QUOTE="hensothor"]If you were busy looking it up you'd know that Condor wanted to make a bizarro game with claymation graphics and all sorts of ****** up stuff going on. Blizzard reigned them in, and guided the series to completion with Diablo 1 and 2. There are some very prominent Blizzard names/developers involved with Diablo prior to 3 that made it what it is. You can't just go and ignore that. They took on Blizzard's name for a reason. AdrianWerner

Afterall.. BlizzNorth's Diablo 3 was completely scrapped and then project started from stratch again in main Blizzard offices. This proves alone that Blizzard's control over the project was always limited.

BTW: You might want to check WoW: Cat's review... again, blizzard is not immune to sub 9 performance here, whether the direct developer or indirect.

No it cant, but if you like "old school" click click click click click click click -action games it going to be very fun the first few hours until your fingers cant move :P

aroxx_ab

Action rpgs aren't about the story or dialogue choices, they're about getting loot and killing monsters.

cain006

[QUOTE="cain006"]

Action rpgs aren't about the story or dialogue choices, they're about getting loot and killing monsters.

DragonfireXZ95

Very True .

[QUOTE="indzman"]

Can Diablo 3 from Blizzard ( upcoming action rpg for PC ) match upto todays generation rpg's which are taking rpg to the next level in terms of graphics and gameplay ( The Witcher 2 , Dark Souls , Skyrim , Mass Effect 3 ) ?

Discuss :)

tenaka2

Very different game types, also ME3 is a third person shooter.

ME 3 is a sci fi rpg :P

Third person shooters are Gears of War and Uncharted games lol .

A lot of the guys that are playing the beta told that it as addictive as drugs. Is anyone that played the beta in this thread?

A lot of the guys that are playing the beta told that it as addictive as drugs. Is anyone that played the beta in this thread?

Lucianu

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

A lot of the guys that are playing the beta told that it as addictive as drugs. Is anyone that played the beta in this thread?

Elann2008

There's gotta be someone around here, i'm curious about a little summary.

BTW: You might want to check WoW: Cat's review... again, blizzard is not immune to sub 9 performance here, whether the direct developer or indirect.

DerekLoffin

Didn't that happen here because the reviewer failed to aknowledge a prior huge patch (that changed a lot of things) that was actually part of the expansion? I might be wrong, but i remember that being the case.

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[QUOTE="indzman"]

Can Diablo 3 from Blizzard ( upcoming action rpg for PC ) match upto todays generation rpg's which are taking rpg to the next level in terms of graphics and gameplay ( The Witcher 2 , Dark Souls , Skyrim , Mass Effect 3 ) ?

Discuss :)

indzman

Very different game types, also ME3 is a third person shooter.

ME 3 is a sci fi rpg :P

Only if you stretch the definition of rpg until it verges on snapping, it is a shooter with occasional stilted dialog options.

yes it will. blizzard has never failed to meet expectations and I doubt they'll give in now.

supdotcom

um... Wrath and Cataclysm were both fail

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]

BTW: You might want to check WoW: Cat's review... again, blizzard is not immune to sub 9 performance here, whether the direct developer or indirect.

Lucianu

Didn't that happen here because the reviewer failed to aknowledge a prior huge patch (that changed a lot of things) that was actually part of the expansion? I might be wrong, but i remember that being the case.

He did mention the patch in the headline. But he was talking about the expansion itself, not the free update that was a part of it. Personally I feel even giving it an AA would have been generous though. And WotLK shouldnt even have scored an A.

WotLK=Decline of WoW. Everything got handed to you, and heroics were essentially zergs, the raid it got released with was a rehashed Vanilla raid.
Cataclysm=Too little, Too late. The dungeons were just boring, and we are essentially playing the same game since 2004. It did nothing to fix WoW's biggest flaws.

WoW is losing its playerbase. It is currently at 9 million from what I heard, which is not bad by any means. But not as high as it was before Cata.

[QUOTE="cain006"]

Action rpgs aren't about the story or dialogue choices, they're about getting loot and killing monsters.

DragonfireXZ95

The only way you can get this kind of game with more complex gameplay is propably going full MMO with GuildWars2.

[QUOTE="supdotcom"]

yes it will. blizzard has never failed to meet expectations and I doubt they'll give in now.

HaloinventedFPS

um... Wrath and Cataclysm were both fail

Ten million others disagree with you, with a game like wow you cannot please everyone.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]

BTW: You might want to check WoW: Cat's review... again, blizzard is not immune to sub 9 performance here, whether the direct developer or indirect.

Maroxad

Didn't that happen here because the reviewer failed to aknowledge a prior huge patch (that changed a lot of things) that was actually part of the expansion? I might be wrong, but i remember that being the case.

He did mention the patch in the headline. But he was talking about the expansion itself, not the free update that was a part of it. Personally I feel even giving it an AA would have been generous though. And WotLK shouldnt even have scored an A.

WotLK=Decline of WoW
Cataclysm=Too little, Too late.

WoW is losing its playerbase. It is currently at 9 million from what I heard, which is not bad by any means. But not as high as it was before Cata.

Wrath was good, but a couple of bad choices made it such fail

mainly making Ulduar, the best raid ever made, useless in 3.2, remember raid progression? neither does Blizzard

or and cutting alot of content didnt help either, azjol nerub zone? gone

not to mention Cataclysm is cutting alot aswell, Abyssal maw? gone, WOTA Raid? gone, AQ remake? gone, Emerald Dream questchain in Hyjal? gone

BTW: You might want to check WoW: Cat's review... again, blizzard is not immune to sub 9 performance here, whether the direct developer or indirect.

DerekLoffin

And it's Blizzard. The game won't be out if it won't at least be great. Anythign less and it would get canceled :)

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Didn't that happen here because the reviewer failed to aknowledge a prior huge patch (that changed a lot of things) that was actually part of the expansion? I might be wrong, but i remember that being the case.

HaloinventedFPS

He did mention the patch in the headline. But he was talking about the expansion itself, not the free update that was a part of it. Personally I feel even giving it an AA would have been generous though. And WotLK shouldnt even have scored an A.

WotLK=Decline of WoW
Cataclysm=Too little, Too late.

WoW is losing its playerbase. It is currently at 9 million from what I heard, which is not bad by any means. But not as high as it was before Cata.

mainly making Ulduar, the best raid ever made, useless in 3.2, remember raid progression? neither does Blizzard

Yeah, that made me really angry. Ulduar was so well made... it also had some REALLY difficult bosses (you know which boss in particular I am referring to).

I miss it back when you had to go from Raid 1->Raid 2->Raid 3->Raid 4 and so on.