CD Project Discusses The Witcher 2 on Consoles

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#201 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

These pics are all 100% in game, funny that you now try to turn things around, good luck with that

GeneralShowzer

That is in game. Notice how it manages to look even worse than your screens.

Don't worry I'm sure it will look a lot better on PC ;)

Of course, it will not have terrible 640x480 pics captured with a cell phone from a SDTV to showcase it, like the one above

Will be mor like that

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#202 Dantus12
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nice damage control

None is a bullshot, the game looks exactly like that, in fact a lot better on a HDTV

Funny, how things turn now

And if Mass Effect2 viuals pale in comparisson to any PC game, how come got 9.5/10 visuals for PC and 360 in IGN ?

BTW, i suppose you have not actually played Fable 3, right ?

Funny to judge a game wihtout playing it at all first

AbleFa3

ME2 was a badly up-scaled port to PC, on the visual side it`s missing ultra-high texture settings for example.As a paralel development and release it`s a good looking game, but nothing spectacular.

The better visual comparison is ME PC vs ME XBOX, a game with proper graphical settings that are able to utilise the visual potential of the PC.

ME2 close-up`s on armors look mediocre at best, compared to other games that are devloped with PC in mind.

They can still be modded on PC to look half way decent.

The Witcher 2 will be, despite the engine`s` ability to work on consoles ,a port to consoles, the difference is actually a very positive one for console players, mostly they are more concerned with exclusivity however.

The PC version of TW2 is the primary version of CD Project, the rest are ports.

If Fable 3 comes to PC, it will be visually a better game on PC because it`s not a parallel release, even if it`s nothing more than a sloopy up-scaled port.

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#203 GeneralShowzer
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Agreed ME2 is a terrible port.
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#204 AbleFa3
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Agreed ME2 is a terrible port.GeneralShowzer

Yet, no review on this planet agrees with that, all have scored ME2 far above ME1 visually and same on 360 and PC

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#205 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Agreed ME2 is a terrible port.AbleFa3

Yet, no review on this planet agrees with that, all have scored ME2 far above ME1 visually and same on 360 and PC

ME2 had better artstyle. ME on PC had better textures, FOV, and other stuff like that.
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#206 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Agreed ME2 is a terrible port.GeneralShowzer

Yet, no review on this planet agrees with that, all have scored ME2 far above ME1 visually and same on 360 and PC

ME2 had better artstyle. ME on PC had better textures, FOV, and other stuff like that.

I have seen both and the difference is minor really, especially on my 720p HDTV

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#207 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Yet, no review on this planet agrees with that, all have scored ME2 far above ME1 visually and same on 360 and PC

AbleFa3

ME2 had better artstyle. ME on PC had better textures, FOV, and other stuff like that.

I have seen both and the difference is minor really, especially on my 720p HDTV

I said ME on PC. You don't have a PC capable of running it. ME2 had horrible low res textures.
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#208 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] ME2 had better artstyle. ME on PC had better textures, FOV, and other stuff like that.GeneralShowzer

I have seen both and the difference is minor really, especially on my 720p HDTV

I said ME on PC. You don't have a PC capable of running it. ME2 had horrible low res textures.

You mean Mass Effect 2 looks worst than ME1 on PC ?

Then why did it score far better everywhere ?

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#209 AdrianWerner
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Of course, it will not have terrible 640x480 pics captured with a cell phone from a SDTV to showcase it, like the one above

Will be mor like that

AbleFa3

God, I hope not. This kind of image quality wasn't acceptable on PC even 5 years ago, let alone now.

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#210 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Of course, it will not have terrible 640x480 pics captured with a cell phone from a SDTV to showcase it, like the one above

Will be mor like that

AdrianWerner

God, I hope not. This kind of image quality wasn't acceptable on PC even 5 years ago, let alone now.

5 years ago, there was no such lighting and shading effects, there were hardly any proper real time shadows too

Funny though, i still like Fable 3 pics above far more than any PC game i have seen, it is probably the lighting and detail in Fable 3 that makes it look so stunning

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

I have seen both and the difference is minor really, especially on my 720p HDTV

AbleFa3

I said ME on PC. You don't have a PC capable of running it. ME2 had horrible low res textures.

You mean Mass Effect 2 looks worst than ME1 on PC ?

Then why did it score far better everywhere ?

Because mostly XBOX versions are being showcased. ME2 doesn`t look worst than ME1 on PC. The glaring difference is ME PC vs ME Xbox.

The difference ME2 PC vs ME2 XBOX is there, but the gap is not that huge as it is when comparing ME PC s ME XBOX

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#212 Hakkai007
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Because mostly XBOX versions are being showcased. ME2 doesn`t look worst than ME1 on PC. The glaring difference is ME PC vs ME Xbox.

The difference ME2 PC vs ME2 XBOX is there, but the gap is not that huge as it is when comparing ME PC s ME XBOX

Dantus12

ME 1 on PC has better than ME 2 on PC.

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#213 AdrianWerner
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5 years ago, there was no such lighting and shading effects, there were hardly any proper real time shadows too

Funny though, i still like Fable 3 pics above far more than any PC game i have seen, it is probably the lighting and detail in Fable 3 that makes it look so stunning

AbleFa3

Well...you're entitled to your opinion. I don't understand where you see this detail in those Fable 3 pics as they look like something straight from last gen, but whatever...I've seen people here claiming Conduit looks as good as any 360 game, so I will just put you in the same drawer as them.

That said...I clearly write image quality. And the pictures you've posted are horrible in this area. THey look like somebiody would take a typical console game (ie..full of jaggies and blurry textures) make a thumbnail from it, then blew it up again to high res and finally ran a compression algorith from helll that made everything gain artifacts.

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#214 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

5 years ago, there was no such lighting and shading effects, there were hardly any proper real time shadows too

Funny though, i still like Fable 3 pics above far more than any PC game i have seen, it is probably the lighting and detail in Fable 3 that makes it look so stunning

AdrianWerner

Well...you're entitled to your opinion. I don't understand where you see this detail in those Fable 3 pics as they look like something straight from last gen, but whatever...I've seen people here claiming Conduit looks as good as any 360 game, so I will just put you in the same drawer as them.

That said...I clearly write image quality. And the pictures you've posted are horrible in this area. THey look like somebiody would take a typical console game (ie..full of jaggies and blurry textures) make a thumbnail from it, then blew it up again to high res and finally ran a compression algorith from helll that made everything gain artifacts.

I wonder the exact same thing, where do you see the detail in the flat Withcer1 and Oblivion shading and lighting

The detail you look at any moment in Fable 3 is huge, it is not flat walls and a NPC here and there, clearly shown in all pics i have posted

Both Withcer 1 and especially Oblivion look boring comparing, crisper but worst in every other way

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#215 waltefmoney
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I can't believe this is still going. That dude ruined my thread :cry:

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

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#216 AbleFa3
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I can't believe this is still going. That dude ruined my thread :cry:waltefmoney

Indeed, i cant believe the damage control and console bashing in this thread

Like Withcer 2 coming to consoles is the end of the world or something for PC gaming

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#217 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

I can't believe this is still going. That dude ruined my thread :cry:

Indeed, i cant believe the damage control and console bashing in this thread

Like Withcer 2 coming to consoles is the end of the world or something for PC gaming

Why are you still defending that shallow, bug ridden, 7.5 flop that is Fable 3? The dude he is talking about is you. WHy does this thred contain all these Fable screenshots? I mean its not fair to keep posting such ugly pics.
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#218 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

5 years ago, there was no such lighting and shading effects, there were hardly any proper real time shadows too

Funny though, i still like Fable 3 pics above far more than any PC game i have seen, it is probably the lighting and detail in Fable 3 that makes it look so stunning

AbleFa3

Well...you're entitled to your opinion. I don't understand where you see this detail in those Fable 3 pics as they look like something straight from last gen, but whatever...I've seen people here claiming Conduit looks as good as any 360 game, so I will just put you in the same drawer as them.

That said...I clearly write image quality. And the pictures you've posted are horrible in this area. THey look like somebiody would take a typical console game (ie..full of jaggies and blurry textures) make a thumbnail from it, then blew it up again to high res and finally ran a compression algorith from helll that made everything gain artifacts.

I wonder the exact same thing, where do you see the detail in the flat Withcer1 and Oblivion shading and lighting

The detail you look at any moment in Fable 3 is huge, it is not flat walls and a NPC here and there, clearly shown in all pics i have posted

Both Withcer 1 and especially Oblivion look boring comparing, crisper but worst in every other way

Witcher definitly has better textures, plus the image quality is far superior..while the one in Fable 3 is low res, blurry, full of jaggies and lack of AF. So while I can understand how to you better lighting and models make F3 look better I also understand how people might prefer Witcher visuals.

The funny thing is though...Witcher was build on last gen tech. Oblivion was pretty much a launch title and yet Fable 3 barely manages to match or surpass them. Compared to that Witcher 2 really seems like a next-gen of roleplaying games. We haven't see any improvements in this genre in the last 5 years, so now when something like Witcher 2 comes out it's pretty easy to wow people.

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#219 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Well...you're entitled to your opinion. I don't understand where you see this detail in those Fable 3 pics as they look like something straight from last gen, but whatever...I've seen people here claiming Conduit looks as good as any 360 game, so I will just put you in the same drawer as them.

That said...I clearly write image quality. And the pictures you've posted are horrible in this area. THey look like somebiody would take a typical console game (ie..full of jaggies and blurry textures) make a thumbnail from it, then blew it up again to high res and finally ran a compression algorith from helll that made everything gain artifacts.

AdrianWerner

I wonder the exact same thing, where do you see the detail in the flat Withcer1 and Oblivion shading and lighting

The detail you look at any moment in Fable 3 is huge, it is not flat walls and a NPC here and there, clearly shown in all pics i have posted

Both Withcer 1 and especially Oblivion look boring comparing, crisper but worst in every other way

Witcher definitly has better textures, plus the image quality is far superior..while the one in Fable 3 is low res, blurry, full of jaggies and lack of AF. So while I can understand how to you better lighting and models make F3 look better I also understand how people might prefer Witcher visuals.

The funny thing is though...Witcher was build on last gen tech. Oblivion was pretty much a launch title and yet Fable 3 barely manages to match or surpass them. Compared to that Witcher 2 really seems like a next-gen of roleplaying games. We haven't see any improvements in this genre in the last 5 years, so now when something like Witcher 2 comes out it's pretty easy to wow people.

Fable 3 actually far surpasses both Withcer 1 and Oblivion by miles, Oblivion even has static lighting from DX7 era, if you are a PC gamer you will know what i mean i guess, Fable 3 has real time shadows and light beams and volumes of light etc and huge detail, Oblivion also had an extremely boring and repeattive wilderness

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#220 D1zzyCriminal
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Fable 3 looks like it is a decent looking game, but those character models are ugly as hell, and the textures are bland and washed out, a game cant look amazing because it has "Great Lighting". I mean look at Doom 3. Stop trying to convince us that Fable 3 has anything to do with the Witcher 2. The sooner this thread is locked and the AbleFa3 abomination is ridden of the better.

Sorry about your thread waltefmoney :P

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#222 AdrianWerner
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Fable 3 actually far surpasses both Withcer 1 and Oblivion by miles, Oblivion even has static lighting from DX7 era, if you are a PC gamer you will know what i mean i guess, Fable 3 has real time shadows and light beams and volumes of light etc and huge detail, Oblivion also had an extremely boring and repeattive wilderness

AbleFa3

The engine in Fable 3 seems to be pretty good, I guess it's just 360 hardware that causes the whole gameworld to lack detail and be so barren

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#223 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Fable 3 actually far surpasses both Withcer 1 and Oblivion by miles, Oblivion even has static lighting from DX7 era, if you are a PC gamer you will know what i mean i guess, Fable 3 has real time shadows and light beams and volumes of light etc and huge detail, Oblivion also had an extremely boring and repeattive wilderness

AdrianWerner

The engine in Fable 3 seems to be pretty good, I guess it's just 360 hardware that causes the whole gameworld to lack detail and be so barren

It is actually one of the most detailed games this generation, if not the most

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#224 clone01
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

You mean like Mass Effect 2 ?

Funny, because ME2 got same graphics scores for PC and 360

Funny, Because Mass Effect 2 looks like crap compared to the Witcher 2, and just about any other High end PC game.

Sure, i mean you know best

Better than IGN that gave 9.5/10 graphics (higest score in graphics imaginable) to BOTH 360 and PC versions

I mean professional reviewers dont matter, only your opinion does, you are right

Now, can you post IGN review scores for those "any other High end PC game" that have got 10/10 or 20/10 ?

funny comment coming from someone who states opinion as fact all the time, saolin/obamanian/seekar.
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#225 clone01
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Fable 3 actually far surpasses both Withcer 1 and Oblivion by miles, Oblivion even has static lighting from DX7 era, if you are a PC gamer you will know what i mean i guess, Fable 3 has real time shadows and light beams and volumes of light etc and huge detail, Oblivion also had an extremely boring and repeattive wilderness

The engine in Fable 3 seems to be pretty good, I guess it's just 360 hardware that causes the whole gameworld to lack detail and be so barren

It is actually one of the most detailed games this generation, if not the most

proof? link? data on that, saolin/obamanian/seekar?
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#226 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Fable 3 actually far surpasses both Withcer 1 and Oblivion by miles, Oblivion even has static lighting from DX7 era, if you are a PC gamer you will know what i mean i guess, Fable 3 has real time shadows and light beams and volumes of light etc and huge detail, Oblivion also had an extremely boring and repeattive wilderness

The engine in Fable 3 seems to be pretty good, I guess it's just 360 hardware that causes the whole gameworld to lack detail and be so barren

It is actually one of the most detailed games this generation, if not the most

Ad is right, Fable 3 looks very very boring and drab, but this thread is about the Witcher in any event not Fable 3.
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#227 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Fable 3 actually far surpasses both Withcer 1 and Oblivion by miles, Oblivion even has static lighting from DX7 era, if you are a PC gamer you will know what i mean i guess, Fable 3 has real time shadows and light beams and volumes of light etc and huge detail, Oblivion also had an extremely boring and repeattive wilderness

AbleFa3

The engine in Fable 3 seems to be pretty good, I guess it's just 360 hardware that causes the whole gameworld to lack detail and be so barren

It is actually one of the most detailed games this generation, if not the most

You mean of last generation, right? Because only by those standarts it could be considerd detailed

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#228 clone01
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Of course, it will not have terrible 640x480 pics captured with a cell phone from a SDTV to showcase it, like the one above

Will be mor like that

AbleFa3

God, I hope not. This kind of image quality wasn't acceptable on PC even 5 years ago, let alone now.

5 years ago, there was no such lighting and shading effects, there were hardly any proper real time shadows too

Funny though, i still like Fable 3 pics above far more than any PC game i have seen, it is probably the lighting and detail in Fable 3 that makes it look so stunning

don't forget vast, open, huge worlds, and volumetric dynamic lighting that looks miles better, saolin/obamanian/seekar.
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#229 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Fable 3 actually far surpasses both Withcer 1 and Oblivion by miles, Oblivion even has static lighting from DX7 era, if you are a PC gamer you will know what i mean i guess, Fable 3 has real time shadows and light beams and volumes of light etc and huge detail, Oblivion also had an extremely boring and repeattive wilderness

AbleFa3

The engine in Fable 3 seems to be pretty good, I guess it's just 360 hardware that causes the whole gameworld to lack detail and be so barren

It is actually one of the most detailed games this generation, if not the most

I totally disagree with you, Fable 3 is just a bad looking game.

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#230 UnknownSniper65
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Don't feed the troll...

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#231 ChubbyGuy40
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Don't feed the troll...

UnknownSniper65

Bah why'd you bring back this thread to page 1?

And it's fun feeding the trolls. It's always funny to see how they think their opinions are facts and how they jump to conclusions and ignore the facts.

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#233 clone01
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

Don't feed the troll...

Bah why'd you bring back this thread to page 1?

And it's fun feeding the trolls. It's always funny to see how they think their opinions are facts and how they jump to conclusions and ignore the facts.

There are only three facts

1. Withcer2 is confirmed for consoles

2. We have no idea how it will look

3. Games like Mas Effect 2, fable 3, Gears 3, Alan wake, Rage, Crysis 2 etc look stunning on xbox 360

These are the facts, now everything else is in the assumption and opinion region

except that #3 on your list is opinion, obamanian/saolin/seekar.
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#236 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Bah why'd you bring back this thread to page 1?

And it's fun feeding the trolls. It's always funny to see how they think their opinions are facts and how they jump to conclusions and ignore the facts.

ChubbyGuy40

There are only three facts

1. Withcer2 is confirmed for consoles

2. We have no idea how it will look

3. Games like Mas Effect 2, fable 3, Gears 3, Alan wake, Rage, Crysis 2 etc look stunning on xbox 360

These are the facts, now everything else is in the assumption and opinion region

The WITCHER 2 hasn't been confirmed for consoles, only tested on. After the PC version is done and shipped, then we might see some news about the console version.

We know it won't look nearly as good as the PC version.

They look stunning...for the 360. PC has those visuals years ago, and at higher resolutions, textures, ect.

You managed to completely derail another good topic with your nonsense. Good job.

They said they will make it for consoles, so that is confirmation

"I want to tell you we're doing everything we can to make sure one day The Witcher 2 will be released on the current generation of consoles."

We know it will look better on PC, but it could be slightly like Mass Effect 2 or Rage,so would not matter at all

Mass Effect 2 got 9.5/10 in graphics on 360, so is one of the best looking games this generation by IGN

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#237 clone01
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

There are only three facts

1. Withcer2 is confirmed for consoles

2. We have no idea how it will look

3. Games like Mas Effect 2, fable 3, Gears 3, Alan wake, Rage, Crysis 2 etc look stunning on xbox 360

These are the facts, now everything else is in the assumption and opinion region

The WITCHER 2 hasn't been confirmed for consoles, only tested on. After the PC version is done and shipped, then we might see some news about the console version.

We know it won't look nearly as good as the PC version.

They look stunning...for the 360. PC has those visuals years ago, and at higher resolutions, textures, ect.

You managed to completely derail another good topic with your nonsense. Good job.

They said they will make it for consoles, so that is confirmation

"I want to tell you we're doing everything we can to make sure one day The Witcher 2 will be released on the current generation of consoles."

We know it will look better on PC, but it could be slightly like Mass Effect 2 or Rage,so would not matter at all

Mass Effect 2 got 9.5/10 in graphics on 360, so is one of the best looking games this generation by IGN

"doing everything we can" does not equal confirmation, saolin/obamanian/seekar.
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#238 UnknownSniper65
Member since 2004 • 9238 Posts

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There are only three facts

1. Withcer2 is confirmed for consoles

2. We have no idea how it will look

3. Games like Mas Effect 2, fable 3, Gears 3, Alan wake, Rage, Crysis 2 etc look stunning on xbox 360

These are the facts, now everything else is in the assumption and opinion region

AbleFa3

The WITCHER 2 hasn't been confirmed for consoles, only tested on. After the PC version is done and shipped, then we might see some news about the console version.

We know it won't look nearly as good as the PC version.

They look stunning...for the 360. PC has those visuals years ago, and at higher resolutions, textures, ect.

You managed to completely derail another good topic with your nonsense. Good job.

They said they will make it for consoles, so that is confirmation

"I want to tell you we're doing everything we can to make sure one day The Witcher 2 will be released on the current generation of consoles."

We know it will look better on PC, but it could be slightly like Mass Effect 2 or Rage,so would not matter at all

Mass Effect 2 got 9.5/10 in graphics on 360, so is one of the best looking games this generation by IGN

Its also has incredibly linear gameplay and still manages to chug along at times.

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#239 Teuf_
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This thread should have been closed on page 2. :(