Clarification on Crysis and Killzone 2

Oh, and i ave UT3 on both my laptop and my tower PC, and laptop still doesnt have any hitches even on some custom maps ive played that have gre lighting.itzagir

The indoor graphics in Crysis are "meh"? What on earth are you talking about?

P.S. The physics in Crysis are phenomenal, and KZ2 can't hold a candle to them.

agentfred

was goin to say the exact same thing

lol @ 1600x1200 resolution on 12-20 inch moniters, yep, that says all i need to know right there.....and btw, Far Cry 2 has better vegetation than crysis.PS3Fanaddict

rubbish

[QUOTE="itzagir"]Oh, and i ave UT3 on both my laptop and my tower PC, and laptop still doesnt have any hitches even on some custom maps ive played that have gre lighting.clembo1990

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

I know the title is lame, and so will be this subject. The reason i am posting this is to differentiate the graphics between Killzone 2 and Crysis. I am a little to sick of pointless comparisons.

Crysis:

1. Runs only on pc, and hence is seldom exhibited at any resolution less than 1600x1200

2. Best outdoor vegetation graphics ever. Indoor graphics are meh.

3. Physics are good. On par with Killzone 2. Hit response system is not as good as Killzone 2.

4. Lighting is a little short compared to Killzone 2. You can stare at the sun, and it is NOT blinding in any way. No spectrum or even flares. Shadows are good due to resolution and hardware capabilities of PC.

Killzone 2:

1. Runs on a native 720p. That's 1366x768 for most LCD TVS. The resolution alone puts it at shame next to Crysis.

2. Best indoor graphics ever. Outdoor graphics involving vegetation is *yuck*. Just pay attention to the weeds on the Suljeva stages.

3. Physics are on par with Crysis. Hit response system grants more satisfaction than any other game (IMO)

4. Lighting is the best ever (IMO). Flares improve realism. Usage of dynamic lighting to bring out contrast in the game is extremely good. Does not rely completely on forced lighting like Gears of War.

If you ask me, Killzone 2's biggest weakness is it's resolution, especially the low res textures at many parts of the game which the devs think we won't pay attention to, but we obviously do. If Killzone 2 had a PC version, running at 1600x1200 and above, with an option for high rex textures, like any other pc game, it could easily surpass Crysis. But to compare Killzone 2 to Crysis based on the hardware difference is just silly. Of course Crysis wins. Even games with average graphics like Fear 2 end up looking good on PC due to resolution and AA.

Ilikemyname420

I enjoyed KZ2, and it was a very good looking game, but why do some people feel the need to make it out to be the Second Coming?

Oh, and Fear 2 has great graphics, PC version is comparable or better than KZ.itzagir

AGREED :)

cyrsis has better graphics no dout on my GTX295 but Killzone 2 has better multiplayer platform so in my opinion i think Killzone 2 is better :P

If you think that the indoor graphics are "meh", you've obviously never seen the alien spaceship level...

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

I know the title is lame, and so will be this subject. The reason i am posting this is to differentiate the graphics between Killzone 2 and Crysis. I am a little to sick of pointless comparisons.

Crysis:

1. Runs only on pc, and hence is seldom exhibited at any resolution less than 1600x1200

2. Best outdoor vegetation graphics ever. Indoor graphics are meh.

3. Physics are good. On par with Killzone 2. Hit response system is not as good as Killzone 2.

4. Lighting is a little short compared to Killzone 2. You can stare at the sun, and it is NOT blinding in any way. No spectrum or even flares. Shadows are good due to resolution and hardware capabilities of PC.

Killzone 2:

1. Runs on a native 720p. That's 1366x768 for most LCD TVS. The resolution alone puts it at shame next to Crysis.

2. Best indoor graphics ever. Outdoor graphics involving vegetation is *yuck*. Just pay attention to the weeds on the Suljeva stages.

3. Physics are on par with Crysis. Hit response system grants more satisfaction than any other game (IMO)

4. Lighting is the best ever (IMO). Flares improve realism. Usage of dynamic lighting to bring out contrast in the game is extremely good. Does not rely completely on forced lighting like Gears of War.

If you ask me, Killzone 2's biggest weakness is it's resolution, especially the low res textures at many parts of the game which the devs think we won't pay attention to, but we obviously do. If Killzone 2 had a PC version, running at 1600x1200 and above, with an option for high rex textures, like any other pc game, it could easily surpass Crysis. But to compare Killzone 2 to Crysis based on the hardware difference is just silly. Of course Crysis wins. Even games with average graphics like Fear 2 end up looking good on PC due to resolution and AA.

Ilikemyname420

Really, Killzone 2 isn't as impressive as cows say. It has more artistic merits than technical imo. What its stand outs is its animation, but they are mostly scripted events. Whenever you kill someone you will trigger a random animation sequence that indeed is impressive but independent of where you hit them... unlike Crysis, Farcry2 or even CoD4/5. Its also :roll: -able when the cows use things like the bridge sequence as example of excellent physics... when is clearly an scripted event...

Technically, Killzone 2 can't compare with Crysis, Farcry 2(PC) or even CoD4 (PC). Artistically though, Im still amazed whenever I play on that multiplayer map that makes everything look like black-and-white. :o

If you think that the indoor graphics are "meh", you've obviously never seen the alien spaceship level...

MetroidPrimePwn

HAHA! YES! I forgot about that part.

[QUOTE="itzagir"]Oh, and Fear 2 has great graphics, PC version is comparable or better than KZ.wehertn

AGREED :)

The only thing KZ2 is superior to Crysis is in artistic merits. The physics department almost everything is scripted, you shoot someone there is a great animation but as you play the game you realise there are a few animations that happen and it doesn't matter were you hit them. The lightning is fake most of the time. Try for yourself few lights create dynamic shadows.

From an artistic standpoint it's a masterpiece. Technically it's a joke to place it over Crysis.

lol @ 1600x1200 resolution on 12-20 inch moniters, yep, that says all i need to know right there.....PS3Fanaddict

What model is that?

[QUOTE="PS3Fanaddict"]lol @ 1600x1200 resolution on 12-20 inch moniters, yep, that says all i need to know right there.....JosamaBinEating

LOL, what physics are yall talking about in Crysis. Believe me the jungles are gorgeous, but the lighting really looks old now after playing KZ2. The animations in Crysis look like any other pc game, which doesn't say much for it. And then the special effects such as particle effects and so on looks very dull and limited compared to KZ2. I mean explosions look like there a image that is overlapped over the original image, definitely don't look like their part of the games graphics at all.

So to me in the end Crysis wins just because of the resolution you can play it at, size of the levels and its jungle vegetation. But Special effects (particle effects), action on screen, enemy AI, Lighting, weather effects and animations KZ2 wins.

If talking about physics I really didn't see anything in Crysis that made me say wow, so in that case I would give physics to KZ2 aswell. The weather effects, wind blowing, sand blowing, smoke blowing with the direction of the wind, grenades getting blown in the air by the wind making you to use kentucky windage. So if anything KZ2 showed off more physics than what Crysis did. But I am also talking about retail copy of Crysis aswell.

Also crysis has some bad textures aswell just like all games. And actually it has quite a bit of bad textures and the ones that just smack you in the face with them not even trying to hide them lol.

P.S. Resolution does not add content, it just makes things sharper and crispier looking. So no matter the res. you run it at Crysis is not going to have those particle effects, action on screen visuals, just the feeling of a living breathing world.

Graphics : Crysis >>> Kilzone 2

Overall : Kilzone 2 >>>>> Crysis

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Crysis I enjoyed 1 play through on both games and found MP to be mediocre at best but it was visual satisfying.

Killzone 2 I love. Single Player was good maybe not as epic as Crysis on scale but felt more Warzone. Online is fun as hell the whole no reloads during gametypes just makes it feel so much better.

Crysis is a good game. Killzone 2 is a better game.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killzone 2 >>>>> Crysis >>> Halo(Unless you play Coop then Halo rocks)

No just no

Also, crispier graphics? Sounds tasty!

LOL, what physics are yall talking about in Crysis. Believe me the jungles are gorgeous, but the lighting really looks old now after playing KZ2. The animations in Crysis look like any other pc game, which doesn't say much for it. And then the special effects such as particle effects and so on looks very dull and limited compared to KZ2. I mean explosions look like there a image that is overlapped over the original image, definitely don't look like their part of the games graphics at all.

So to me in the end Crysis wins just because of the resolution you can play it at, size of the levels and its jungle vegetation. But Special effects (particle effects), action on screen, enemy AI, Lighting, weather effects and animations KZ2 wins.

If talking about physics I really didn't see anything in Crysis that made me say wow, so in that case I would give physics to KZ2 aswell. The weather effects, wind blowing, sand blowing, smoke blowing with the direction of the wind, grenades getting blown in the air by the wind making you to use kentucky windage. So if anything KZ2 showed off more physics than what Crysis did. But I am also talking about retail copy of Crysis aswell.

Also crysis has some bad textures aswell just like all games. And actually it has quite a bit of bad textures and the ones that just smack you in the face with them not even trying to hide them lol.

P.S. Resolution does not add content, it just makes things sharper and crispier looking. So no matter the res. you run it at Crysis is not going to have those particle effects, action on screen visuals, just the feeling of a living breathing world.

GreyFoXX4

congradulations on the most misinformed and idiotic post in system wars history.

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

cobrax75

What model is that?

DeckardLee

very nice....is that a 37"?True_Gamer_

If you think that the indoor graphics are "meh", you've obviously never seen the alien spaceship level...

MetroidPrimePwn

[QUOTE="PS3Fanaddict"]lol @ 1600x1200 resolution on 12-20 inch moniters, yep, that says all i need to know right there.....and btw, Far Cry 2 has better vegetation than crysis.mojojojojojojoo

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

LOL, what physics are yall talking about in Crysis. Believe me the jungles are gorgeous, but the lighting really looks old now after playing KZ2. The animations in Crysis look like any other pc game, which doesn't say much for it. And then the special effects such as particle effects and so on looks very dull and limited compared to KZ2. I mean explosions look like there a image that is overlapped over the original image, definitely don't look like their part of the games graphics at all.

So to me in the end Crysis wins just because of the resolution you can play it at, size of the levels and its jungle vegetation. But Special effects (particle effects), action on screen, enemy AI, Lighting, weather effects and animations KZ2 wins.

If talking about physics I really didn't see anything in Crysis that made me say wow, so in that case I would give physics to KZ2 aswell. The weather effects, wind blowing, sand blowing, smoke blowing with the direction of the wind, grenades getting blown in the air by the wind making you to use kentucky windage. So if anything KZ2 showed off more physics than what Crysis did. But I am also talking about retail copy of Crysis aswell.

Also crysis has some bad textures aswell just like all games. And actually it has quite a bit of bad textures and the ones that just smack you in the face with them not even trying to hide them lol.

P.S. Resolution does not add content, it just makes things sharper and crispier looking. So no matter the res. you run it at Crysis is not going to have those particle effects, action on screen visuals, just the feeling of a living breathing world.

cobrax75

congradulations on the most misinformed and idiotic post in system wars history.

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

lol that post is bad... Why are some people so misinformed? What beats throwing a Korean into a building?

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

loco145

well, seeing as 99% percent of fanboys ignore screenshots, lets bring in the videos then:

here's Volcano Island

here's the Alpha map present in the trailers, that didnt get to the full release, BUT was modded in

Crysis Rescue Mod

LOL, what physics are yall talking about in Crysis. Believe me the jungles are gorgeous, but the lighting really looks old now after playing KZ2. The animations in Crysis look like any other pc game, which doesn't say much for it. And then the special effects such as particle effects and so on looks very dull and limited compared to KZ2. I mean explosions look like there a image that is overlapped over the original image, definitely don't look like their part of the games graphics at all.

So to me in the end Crysis wins just because of the resolution you can play it at, size of the levels and its jungle vegetation. But Special effects (particle effects), action on screen, enemy AI, Lighting, weather effects and animations KZ2 wins.

If talking about physics I really didn't see anything in Crysis that made me say wow, so in that case I would give physics to KZ2 aswell. The weather effects, wind blowing, sand blowing, smoke blowing with the direction of the wind, grenades getting blown in the air by the wind making you to use kentucky windage. So if anything KZ2 showed off more physics than what Crysis did. But I am also talking about retail copy of Crysis aswell.

Also crysis has some bad textures aswell just like all games. And actually it has quite a bit of bad textures and the ones that just smack you in the face with them not even trying to hide them lol.

P.S. Resolution does not add content, it just makes things sharper and crispier looking. So no matter the res. you run it at Crysis is not going to have those particle effects, action on screen visuals, just the feeling of a living breathing world.

GreyFoXX4

[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

GTR2addict

well, seeing as 99% percent of fanboys ignore screenshots, lets bring in the videos then:

here's Volcano Island

here's the Alpha map present in the trailers, that didnt get to the full release, BUT was modded in

Crysis Rescue Mod

The volcano island vid was so beautiful I almost cried. :cry:

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

LOL, what physics are yall talking about in Crysis. Believe me the jungles are gorgeous, but the lighting really looks old now after playing KZ2. The animations in Crysis look like any other pc game, which doesn't say much for it. And then the special effects such as particle effects and so on looks very dull and limited compared to KZ2. I mean explosions look like there a image that is overlapped over the original image, definitely don't look like their part of the games graphics at all.

So to me in the end Crysis wins just because of the resolution you can play it at, size of the levels and its jungle vegetation. But Special effects (particle effects), action on screen, enemy AI, Lighting, weather effects and animations KZ2 wins.

If talking about physics I really didn't see anything in Crysis that made me say wow, so in that case I would give physics to KZ2 aswell. The weather effects, wind blowing, sand blowing, smoke blowing with the direction of the wind, grenades getting blown in the air by the wind making you to use kentucky windage. So if anything KZ2 showed off more physics than what Crysis did. But I am also talking about retail copy of Crysis aswell.

Also crysis has some bad textures aswell just like all games. And actually it has quite a bit of bad textures and the ones that just smack you in the face with them not even trying to hide them lol.

P.S. Resolution does not add content, it just makes things sharper and crispier looking. So no matter the res. you run it at Crysis is not going to have those particle effects, action on screen visuals, just the feeling of a living breathing world.

congradulations on the most misinformed and idiotic post in system wars history.

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

LOL, what physics are yall talking about in Crysis. Believe me the jungles are gorgeous, but the lighting really looks old now after playing KZ2. The animations in Crysis look like any other pc game, which doesn't say much for it. And then the special effects such as particle effects and so on looks very dull and limited compared to KZ2. I mean explosions look like there a image that is overlapped over the original image, definitely don't look like their part of the games graphics at all.

So to me in the end Crysis wins just because of the resolution you can play it at, size of the levels and its jungle vegetation. But Special effects (particle effects), action on screen, enemy AI, Lighting, weather effects and animations KZ2 wins.

If talking about physics I really didn't see anything in Crysis that made me say wow, so in that case I would give physics to KZ2 aswell. The weather effects, wind blowing, sand blowing, smoke blowing with the direction of the wind, grenades getting blown in the air by the wind making you to use kentucky windage. So if anything KZ2 showed off more physics than what Crysis did. But I am also talking about retail copy of Crysis aswell.

Also crysis has some bad textures aswell just like all games. And actually it has quite a bit of bad textures and the ones that just smack you in the face with them not even trying to hide them lol.

P.S. Resolution does not add content, it just makes things sharper and crispier looking. So no matter the res. you run it at Crysis is not going to have those particle effects, action on screen visuals, just the feeling of a living breathing world.

GreyFoXX4

congradulations on the most misinformed and idiotic post in system wars history.

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

your talking about features which KZ2 doesnt even support.....

and yes Crysis does look better...only a complete idiot would think that KZ2 looks better than something like this:

[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

well, seeing as 99% percent of fanboys ignore screenshots, lets bring in the videos then:

here's Volcano Island

here's the Alpha map present in the trailers, that didnt get to the full release, BUT was modded in

Crysis Rescue Mod

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

[QUOTE="loco145"] Bu, but teh bridge!

GreyFoXX4

well, seeing as 99% percent of fanboys ignore screenshots, lets bring in the videos then:

here's Volcano Island

here's the Alpha map present in the trailers, that didnt get to the full release, BUT was modded in

Crysis Rescue Mod

you obviously dont know what a Mod is.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

well, seeing as 99% percent of fanboys ignore screenshots, lets bring in the videos then:

here's Volcano Island

here's the Alpha map present in the trailers, that didnt get to the full release, BUT was modded in

Crysis Rescue Mod

cobrax75

you obviously dont know what a Mod is.

Yeah, apparently not a clue. GreyFoxx4 I run Crysis on Very High 1920x1200 and it blows KZ2 away. Plus the physics engine is one of the best around.

Just took these today during this thread.

Thats the shed I shot to death with that mounted .50 cal but no damage. Went up to it afterwards with my shot gun and took the shed apart lol. Basically sheet of wood by sheet of wood.

Notice the textures on the road or grass next to the road how they drop off.

Grayfoxx4 what machine are you running that on? No wonder the textures drop off as those screens look awful.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Dude get out of here with some mod to crysis geez, show the real game why don't you. You scared to show the truth. And what graphics card you got?GreyFoXX4

you obviously dont know what a Mod is.

Yeah, apparently not a clue. GreyFoxx4 I run Crysis on Very High 1920x1200 and it blows KZ2 away. Plus the physics engine is one of the best around.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you obviously dont know what a Mod is.

GreyFoXX4

Yeah, apparently not a clue. GreyFoxx4 I run Crysis on Very High 1920x1200 and it blows KZ2 away. Plus the physics engine is one of the best around.

you realize that Physx cant even be hardware accelarated on the PS3 right?

and again, those shots are clearly not of the highest, or even high settings.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

[QUOTE="loco145"] Bu, but teh bridge!

GreyFoXX4

well, seeing as 99% percent of fanboys ignore screenshots, lets bring in the videos then:

here's Volcano Island

here's the Alpha map present in the trailers, that didnt get to the full release, BUT was modded in

Crysis Rescue Mod

have my specs:

Q6600 at 3.4 GHz cooled by a thermalright ultra 120 extreme with a scythe ultra kaze 3000 rpm 120x38 mm fan

4 gb's of AData DDR2 @ 907 mhz 6-6-6-18 timings

Powercolor Radeon HD 4850 @ 680 / 1060

580 GB's worth of HDD

ps, you apparently think mods are hacks and crap, well, theyre not, crysis is nothing but a sample of what the cryengine2 can do, those videos jsut show what a bit of work can do to it, and if you want the actual game, here, have my own rig running crysis at 1680x1050 with 4x aa on all very high on DX10 with no mods

and youre lucky i havent uploaded my screens from the 2nd/3rd thirds of the game (alien spaceship and assault)

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you obviously dont know what a Mod is.

GreyFoXX4

Yeah, apparently not a clue. GreyFoxx4 I run Crysis on Very High 1920x1200 and it blows KZ2 away. Plus the physics engine is one of the best around.

lol I said Very High, if you are running the game at low/med then it's going to have much worse textures, how much do you PC game? Apparently you don;t have a clue

congradulations on the most misinformed and idiotic post in system wars history.

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

cobrax75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG5qDeWHNmk

:D

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Yeah, apparently not a clue. GreyFoxx4 I run Crysis on Very High 1920x1200 and it blows KZ2 away. Plus the physics engine is one of the best around.

cobrax75

you realize that Physx cant even be hardware accelarated on the PS3 right?

and again, those shots are clearly not of the highest, or even high settings.

On the PS3 it's going to be scaled down much further. On PC it's hardware accelerated, plus you can stick an 8800 card in with any card above, and it would act as a PPU (Physics Processing Unit), taking the strain off the single card.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

congradulations on the most misinformed and idiotic post in system wars history.

when KZ2 gets destructable enviroments like Crysis has, than come back and post again.

_Pedro_

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG5qDeWHNmk

:D

There has never been anything so epic in the history of gaming. I mean come on

If CryEngine 3 (just shown at GDC 09) is capable of doing things on the 360/PS3 that Crysis did on Medium then Killzone 2 just WTFPWNED!!!x3

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Yeah, apparently not a clue. GreyFoxx4 I run Crysis on Very High 1920x1200 and it blows KZ2 away. Plus the physics engine is one of the best around.

CobraX75

you realize that Physx cant even be hardware accelarated on the PS3 right?

and again, those shots are clearly not of the highest, or even high settings.

ive seen people use a 7800 GTX to accelerate physics ALONE, so it wold never cope with physics and GPU strain, the cell woldnt help at all since trying to process the equivalent on a geforce 6600 in graphics whilst processing normal data wold kill it

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

you obviously dont know what a Mod is.

Yeah, apparently not a clue. GreyFoxx4 I run Crysis on Very High 1920x1200 and it blows KZ2 away. Plus the physics engine is one of the best around.