Clarification on Crysis and Killzone 2

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Yeah, apparently not a clue. GreyFoxx4 I run Crysis on Very High 1920x1200 and it blows KZ2 away. Plus the physics engine is one of the best around.

you realize that Physx cant even be hardware accelarated on the PS3 right?

and again, those shots are clearly not of the highest, or even high settings.

Crysis looks better in every category of graphics. There's your clarification.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Once again resolution DOES NOT ADD CONTENT. Geez, it just makes things look sharper. And I run the game at 1680x1050, so if still seeing bad textures at that rez then guess what, their is bad textures in the game, and alot of them. And that physics engine isn't hardly even used, which Sony just done a deal with Nvidia to incorporate it into its games in the future I guess.GreyFoXX4

you realize that Physx cant even be hardware accelarated on the PS3 right?

and again, those shots are clearly not of the highest, or even high settings.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"]crysis look better on my pc http://i42.tinypic.com/1y2wdw.jpgbigmacattackjac

I never said consoles cant run Physx, I said they cant hardware accelarate it...which is only possible with a dedicaded PPU card, or a card that supports CUDA.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Once again resolution DOES NOT ADD CONTENT. Geez, it just makes things look sharper. And I run the game at 1680x1050, so if still seeing bad textures at that rez then guess what, their is bad textures in the game, and alot of them. And that physics engine isn't hardly even used, which Sony just done a deal with Nvidia to incorporate it into its games in the future I guess.GreyFoXX4

you realize that Physx cant even be hardware accelarated on the PS3 right?

and again, those shots are clearly not of the highest, or even high settings.

[QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] why wont you leave? the other guy already gave upcobrax75

I never said consoles cant run Physx, I said they cant hardware accelarate it...which is only possible with a dedicaded PPU card, or a card that supports CUDA.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"]

you realize that Physx cant even be hardware accelarated on the PS3 right?

and again, those shots are clearly not of the highest, or even high settings.

bigmacattackjac

no. ageia was bought by nvidia last year, and ageia doesnt support ATI, so tell me how ATI cards (the xenos) can run ageia physics engines then? and wii? nice joke

WTF is cuba? bigmacattackjac

A country.

CUDA is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA

As for the rest of your paragraph, it's computer-intelligence illiterate.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"] everyone in this threads misinformed and full of crap, that one dude posted crysis screenshots of it clearly not running on max graphical settings. and then you are saying 7800 gtx can accelerate ageia physics when it doesnt even support anything but geforce 8 series graphics cards or higher. and then cobra said consoles cant run ageia physics when gears of war 2 on 360 uses ageia physics. WOW lol.bigmacattackjac

I never said consoles cant run Physx, I said they cant hardware accelarate it...which is only possible with a dedicaded PPU card, or a card that supports CUDA.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"] everyone in this threads misinformed and full of crap, that one dude posted crysis screenshots of it clearly not running on max graphical settings. and then you are saying 7800 gtx can accelerate ageia physics when it doesnt even support anything but geforce 8 series graphics cards or higher. and then cobra said consoles cant run ageia physics when gears of war 2 on 360 uses ageia physics. WOW lol.bigmacattackjac

I never said consoles cant run Physx, I said they cant hardware accelarate it...which is only possible with a dedicaded PPU card, or a card that supports CUDA.

CUDA is the technology that allows Physx to run off a 8800 Card or higher rather than a dedicaded PPU...the PS3 has neither. Yes, Physx can be run off a CPU, but than its sofrware accelarated and no better than something like Havok...in order to get the full advantage of Physx (and get what you see in the tech demos / Certain PC games) it needs to be hardware accelarated, something only PC hardware can do.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

well, seeing as 99% percent of fanboys ignore screenshots, lets bring in the videos then:

here's Volcano Island

here's the Alpha map present in the trailers, that didnt get to the full release, BUT was modded in

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Crysis Rescue Mod

GTR2addict

have my specs:

Q6600 at 3.4 GHz cooled by a thermalright ultra 120 extreme with a scythe ultra kaze 3000 rpm 120x38 mm fan

4 gb's of AData DDR2 @ 907 mhz 6-6-6-18 timings

Powercolor Radeon HD 4850 @ 680 / 1060

580 GB's worth of HDD

ps, you apparently think mods are hacks and crap, well, theyre not, crysis is nothing but a sample of what the cryengine2 can do, those videos jsut show what a bit of work can do to it, and if you want the actual game, here, have my own rig running crysis at 1680x1050 with 4x aa on all very high on DX10 with no mods

and youre lucky i havent uploaded my screens from the 2nd/3rd thirds of the game (alien spaceship and assault)

LoL and once again your textures aswell are dropping off dude lol. Come on now, tell me those rocks over there look like they got textures to them. Your pics shows same thing while you are trying to cover that up with the Sun.

And actually looking at some of your screens I would say that is from a mod. And get out of here man with building your own rig lol. A gpu is a gpu dude, and a cpu is a cpu, a psu is a psu. And by the way my i7 will eat your processor for lunch lol. And I haven't even got to ask what kind you got oh never mind a Q6600 lol. The only thing that may slow me down is my motherboard, even though it is good enough to go crossfire, but still like you said its prebuilt, so I would rather have my own in it. But none the less this machine is a beast. And oh yea I've been pc gaming since 1999,

I'm just not one of those that throw around resolutions to think its the end all be all in gaming, just like some think textures are. But it is laughable to see all of these mod videos and mod screen shots. I'm not talking about the engine crysis runs on, I'm clearly talking about the GAME crysis. And to the fact its not perfect by any stretch of the imagination

[QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] why wont you leave? the other guy already gave upGTR2addict

actually it has been shown in certian games that high end ATI cards are able to brute force Physx Hardware accelaration...but you need really high end cards, well beyond what the 360 would offer...and you get a huge performence loss.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"]crysis look better on my pc http://i42.tinypic.com/1y2wdw.jpgbigmacattackjac

lol what are you talking about? Ageia has been running on consoles for ages. Physx cannot be hardware accelerated on PS3/360 on the GPU.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"] everyone in this threads misinformed and full of crap, that one dude posted crysis screenshots of it clearly not running on max graphical settings. and then you are saying 7800 gtx can accelerate ageia physics when it doesnt even support anything but geforce 8 series graphics cards or higher. and then cobra said consoles cant run ageia physics when gears of war 2 on 360 uses ageia physics. WOW lol.bigmacattackjac

only on very high end ATI cards...and their is a huge performence loss.

not to mention its not official at all, meaning that no developer would actually do it.

[QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] the 7800 HAS the raw GPU power needed to run physx to a certain degree, the card just doesnt support CUDA, the 360 CANNOT have PhysX, the 360 runs an ATI GPU, which is pretty much a big NO to whatever ageia physics engine you can saycobrax75

only on very high end ATI cards...and their is a huge performence loss.

not to mention its not official at all, meaning that no developer would actually do it.

yes, the performance loss is monumental, and developers would more than likely not be allowed to incorporate it into games

[QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

I never said consoles cant run Physx, I said they cant hardware accelarate it...which is only possible with a dedicaded PPU card, or a card that supports CUDA.

cobrax75

CUDA is the technology that allows Physx to run off a 8800 Card or higher rather than a dedicaded PPU...the PS3 has neither. Yes, Physx can be run off a CPU, but than its sofrware accelarated and no better than something like Havok...in order to get the full advantage of Physx (and get what you see in the tech demos / Certain PC games) it needs to be hardware accelarated, something only PC hardware can do.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"] WTF is cuba? they dont make ppu's anymore nvidia bought out ageia, geforce 8 series graphics cards or higher the physics is run on the video game. on consoles those the physics run on the cpu, might run on 360's gpu also, but ps3 i doubt since rsx is built off 7800 gtx and nvidia doesnt allow gpu acceleration on pc with 7800 gtx. on pc you can use cpu for ageia physics also though.GTR2addict

CUDA is the technology that allows Physx to run off a 8800 Card or higher rather than a dedicaded PPU...the PS3 has neither. Yes, Physx can be run off a CPU, but than its sofrware accelarated and no better than something like Havok...in order to get the full advantage of Physx (and get what you see in the tech demos / Certain PC games) it needs to be hardware accelarated, something only PC hardware can do.

your right its not...but if I had said 8000-series that wouldnt have been true either. I dont remember at which model it becomes capable, but I think its all the gaming models...so probably 8600 and above.

Just for the fun of it now lol.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Dude get out of here with some mod to crysis geez, show the real game why don't you. You scared to show the truth. And what graphics card you got?GreyFoXX4

have my specs:

Q6600 at 3.4 GHz cooled by a thermalright ultra 120 extreme with a scythe ultra kaze 3000 rpm 120x38 mm fan

4 gb's of AData DDR2 @ 907 mhz 6-6-6-18 timings

Powercolor Radeon HD 4850 @ 680 / 1060

580 GB's worth of HDD

ps, you apparently think mods are hacks and crap, well, theyre not, crysis is nothing but a sample of what the cryengine2 can do, those videos jsut show what a bit of work can do to it, and if you want the actual game, here, have my own rig running crysis at 1680x1050 with 4x aa on all very high on DX10 with no mods

and youre lucky i havent uploaded my screens from the 2nd/3rd thirds of the game (alien spaceship and assault)

LoL and once again your textures aswell are dropping off dude lol. Come on now, tell me those rocks over there look like they got textures to them. Your pics shows same thing while you are trying to cover that up with the Sun.

And actually looking at some of your screens I would say that is from a mod. And get out of here man with building your own rig lol. A gpu is a gpu dude, and a cpu is a cpu, a psu is a psu. And by the way my i7 will eat your processor for lunch lol. And I haven't even got to ask what kind you got oh never mind a Q6600 lol. The only thing that may slow me down is my motherboard, even though it is good enough to go crossfire, but still like you said its prebuilt, so I would rather have my own in it. But none the less this machine is a beast. And oh yea I've been pc gaming since 1999,

I'm just not one of those that throw around resolutions to think its the end all be all in gaming, just like some think textures are. But it is laughable to see all of these mod videos and mod screen shots. I'm not talking about the engine crysis runs on, I'm clearly talking about the GAME crysis. And to the fact its not perfect by any stretch of the imagination

Just for the fun of it now lol.

GreyFoXX4

Just for the fun of it now lol.

GreyFoXX4

And, you just proved yourself to be a liar. This is not what Crysis looks like maxed. Not even close. You just made a fool of yourself. Seriously.

If you're wrong just admit it. Don't go off on tangents like this. It only worsens the situation.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

have my specs:

Q6600 at 3.4 GHz cooled by a thermalright ultra 120 extreme with a scythe ultra kaze 3000 rpm 120x38 mm fan

4 gb's of AData DDR2 @ 907 mhz 6-6-6-18 timings

Powercolor Radeon HD 4850 @ 680 / 1060

580 GB's worth of HDD

ps, you apparently think mods are hacks and crap, well, theyre not, crysis is nothing but a sample of what the cryengine2 can do, those videos jsut show what a bit of work can do to it, and if you want the actual game, here, have my own rig running crysis at 1680x1050 with 4x aa on all very high on DX10 with no mods

and youre lucky i havent uploaded my screens from the 2nd/3rd thirds of the game (alien spaceship and assault)

LoL and once again your textures aswell are dropping off dude lol. Come on now, tell me those rocks over there look like they got textures to them. Your pics shows same thing while you are trying to cover that up with the Sun.

And actually looking at some of your screens I would say that is from a mod. And get out of here man with building your own rig lol. A gpu is a gpu dude, and a cpu is a cpu, a psu is a psu. And by the way my i7 will eat your processor for lunch lol. And I haven't even got to ask what kind you got oh never mind a Q6600 lol. The only thing that may slow me down is my motherboard, even though it is good enough to go crossfire, but still like you said its prebuilt, so I would rather have my own in it. But none the less this machine is a beast. And oh yea I've been pc gaming since 1999,

I'm just not one of those that throw around resolutions to think its the end all be all in gaming, just like some think textures are. But it is laughable to see all of these mod videos and mod screen shots. I'm not talking about the engine crysis runs on, I'm clearly talking about the GAME crysis. And to the fact its not perfect by any stretch of the imagination

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

LoL and once again your textures aswell are dropping off dude lol. Come on now, tell me those rocks over there look like they got textures to them. Your pics shows same thing while you are trying to cover that up with the Sun.

And actually looking at some of your screens I would say that is from a mod. And get out of here man with building your own rig lol. A gpu is a gpu dude, and a cpu is a cpu, a psu is a psu. And by the way my i7 will eat your processor for lunch lol. And I haven't even got to ask what kind you got oh never mind a Q6600 lol. The only thing that may slow me down is my motherboard, even though it is good enough to go crossfire, but still like you said its prebuilt, so I would rather have my own in it. But none the less this machine is a beast. And oh yea I've been pc gaming since 1999,

I'm just not one of those that throw around resolutions to think its the end all be all in gaming, just like some think textures are. But it is laughable to see all of these mod videos and mod screen shots. I'm not talking about the engine crysis runs on, I'm clearly talking about the GAME crysis. And to the fact its not perfect by any stretch of the imagination

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Just for the fun of it now lol.

And, you just proved yourself to be a liar. This is not what Crysis looks like maxed. Not even close. You just made a fool of yourself. Seriously.

If you're wrong just admit it. Don't go off on tangents like this. It only worsens the situation.

i have crysis dude, those shots arent on max, ill take a shot instead of hut/house same wall and i bet it textures look way better on mine because im actually running everything on max.bigmacattackjac

If you want to go ahead. But anyone who knows what they're talking about already knows that poster is a liar and that your post is correct.

Again, I could argue that FEAR 2 is artistically (That is what you're talking about right? Killzone 2 isn't technically THAT impressive) better and a wimp of a computer can max that game.

Also, console games are MANY times more expensive. Do the math. If you buy a decent amount of games then PC gaming is several fold cheaper even if you buy a PC costing two to three times what a PS3/360 costs.

KZ2 has great lighting and I see that as the only part in the graphics that competes with crysis. It doesn't beat it though. Crysis completely destroys KZ2 in the other part. Also if the original poster says KZ2 has better physics than Crysis, he/she clearly hasn't played Crysis.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

LoL and once again your textures aswell are dropping off dude lol. Come on now, tell me those rocks over there look like they got textures to them. Your pics shows same thing while you are trying to cover that up with the Sun.

And actually looking at some of your screens I would say that is from a mod. And get out of here man with building your own rig lol. A gpu is a gpu dude, and a cpu is a cpu, a psu is a psu. And by the way my i7 will eat your processor for lunch lol. And I haven't even got to ask what kind you got oh never mind a Q6600 lol. The only thing that may slow me down is my motherboard, even though it is good enough to go crossfire, but still like you said its prebuilt, so I would rather have my own in it. But none the less this machine is a beast. And oh yea I've been pc gaming since 1999,

I'm just not one of those that throw around resolutions to think its the end all be all in gaming, just like some think textures are. But it is laughable to see all of these mod videos and mod screen shots. I'm not talking about the engine crysis runs on, I'm clearly talking about the GAME crysis. And to the fact its not perfect by any stretch of the imagination

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Just for the fun of it now lol.

And, you just proved yourself to be a liar. This is not what Crysis looks like maxed. Not even close. You just made a fool of yourself. Seriously.

If you're wrong just admit it. Don't go off on tangents like this. It only worsens the situation.

i agree with him the hut textures suck, but his screenshots werent on max.bigmacattackjac

Crysis looks better than KZ2. Although KZ2 does look insanely good and comes close to crysis, crysis still looks better and is a sandbox game. Mad props to GG and CryTech both games look beautiful.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"] people have already gotten ati cards to gpu accelerate ageia physics on pc. 360 gpu might support it.lundy86_4

only on very high end ATI cards...and their is a huge performence loss.

not to mention its not official at all, meaning that no developer would actually do it.

yes, the performance loss is monumental, and developers would more than likely not be allowed to incorporate it into games

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

only on very high end ATI cards...and their is a huge performence loss.

not to mention its not official at all, meaning that no developer would actually do it.

bigmacattackjac

yes, the performance loss is monumental, and developers would more than likely not be allowed to incorporate it into games

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

only on very high end ATI cards...and their is a huge performence loss.

not to mention its not official at all, meaning that no developer would actually do it.

bigmacattackjac

yes, the performance loss is monumental, and developers would more than likely not be allowed to incorporate it into games

Because the console GPU's are physiclly incapable of supporting it!!!

the reason only 8000-sereis or higher GPU's can properly accelarate it is beucase they have a technology known as CUDA, which inables them to essencially replicate a PPU.

Crysis looks better than KZ2. Although KZ2 does look insanely good and comes close to crysis, crysis still looks better and is a sandbox game. Mad props to GG and CryTech both games look beautiful.

shakmaster13

1. Runs on a native 720p. That's 1366x768 for most LCD TVS. The resolution alone puts it at shame next to Crysis.jhcho2