Clarification on Crysis and Killzone 2

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

Crysis looks better than KZ2. Although KZ2 does look insanely good and comes close to crysis, crysis still looks better and is a sandbox game. Mad props to GG and CryTech both games look beautiful.

Stevo_the_gamer

I meant closer*. I know that no video game comes close to Crysis in terms of graphics, I'm not blind :P

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

Crysis looks better than KZ2. Although KZ2 does look insanely good and comes close to crysis, crysis still looks better and is a sandbox game. Mad props to GG and CryTech both games look beautiful.

shakmaster13

I meant closer*. I know that no video game comes close to Crysis in terms of graphics, I'm not blind :P

Unfortunately, some other people in this thread are.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] 1st of all, it doesnt matter how long youve been gaming, ive been gaming sinec 2003, so it doesnt matter anyhow. 2. i have 2 separate installs, one runs on DX9 with mods, the other is completely clean of them, these screens are from the clean one, zero mods. and you apparently think your e-peen is humongous since you have an i7, but look man, its at 2.66, my Q6600 is at 3.4, i assume you know your share on core processor architectures so i assume you know that even though your i7's architecture is better, my Q6600's raw speed makes it edge out, so no, your i7 920 wold actually be eaten for breakfest by my Q6600 (btw, watercooling incoming, 4 ghz inbound, since i have a 1.2500 VID CPU, try and beat that with your non-overclockable 920) 3. my textures fade because i had anisotropic filtering off, to spare my FPS (i was running low 20's, high 10's, and AF wold kill it) you just saw my screens, why are you saying you arent looking at the game itself?

GTR2addict

Heres a link for ya.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Crysis-1680x1050,818.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/3DMark-Vantage-CPU,817.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/PCMark-Vantage-Gaming-Suite,814.html

Heck and heres one for ya on how to overclock the i7 920 lol if that concerned about overclocking it lol.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2008/11/06/overclocking-intel-core-i7-920/1

So lets just keep the hardware of our systems out of this discussion ok. Cause there is literally NO article that I can find that says a Q6600 touches the i7 920. So we'll keep this out of the threads ok.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Hmm touched a nerve huh lol. You are the one calling out my rig, and maybe you or someone else asking when did I start pc gaming and I just answered those questions lol. And NO your Q6600 isn't going to touch this i7 sorry but not even close. Also if I said those screens are from very high settings then guess what, that is the settings there on. Also with your rig why are you turning down stuff lol. I mean with todays gpu's 2 years after crysis release we still can't turn up the game lol. Ol yea I appluad them on that :roll: any way no reason in going on any further. Your pics showed texture drop off and mine aswell. So enough said.GreyFoXX4

Heres a link for ya.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Crysis-1680x1050,818.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/3DMark-Vantage-CPU,817.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/PCMark-Vantage-Gaming-Suite,814.html

Heck and heres one for ya on how to overclock the i7 920 lol if that concerned about overclocking it lol.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2008/11/06/overclocking-intel-core-i7-920/1

So lets just keep the hardware of our systems out of this discussion ok. Cause there is literally NO article that I can find that says a Q6600 touches the i7 920. So we'll keep this out of the threads ok.

[QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

yes, the performance loss is monumental, and developers would more than likely not be allowed to incorporate it into games

GTR2addict

No. THEY WANT ATI cards to support it so the PhysX brand will kick off. They are funding a coder to make the ATI's drivers capable of the same things Nividia's cards are able to do. IF only Nvidia cards could do PhysX then it would fail.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

have my specs:

Q6600 at 3.4 GHz cooled by a thermalright ultra 120 extreme with a scythe ultra kaze 3000 rpm 120x38 mm fan

4 gb's of AData DDR2 @ 907 mhz 6-6-6-18 timings

Powercolor Radeon HD 4850 @ 680 / 1060

580 GB's worth of HDD

ps, you apparently think mods are hacks and crap, well, theyre not, crysis is nothing but a sample of what the cryengine2 can do, those videos jsut show what a bit of work can do to it, and if you want the actual game, here, have my own rig running crysis at 1680x1050 with 4x aa on all very high on DX10 with no mods

and youre lucky i havent uploaded my screens from the 2nd/3rd thirds of the game (alien spaceship and assault)

GTR2addict

LoL and once again your textures aswell are dropping off dude lol. Come on now, tell me those rocks over there look like they got textures to them. Your pics shows same thing while you are trying to cover that up with the Sun.

And actually looking at some of your screens I would say that is from a mod. And get out of here man with building your own rig lol. A gpu is a gpu dude, and a cpu is a cpu, a psu is a psu. And by the way my i7 will eat your processor for lunch lol. And I haven't even got to ask what kind you got oh never mind a Q6600 lol. The only thing that may slow me down is my motherboard, even though it is good enough to go crossfire, but still like you said its prebuilt, so I would rather have my own in it. But none the less this machine is a beast. And oh yea I've been pc gaming since 1999,

I'm just not one of those that throw around resolutions to think its the end all be all in gaming, just like some think textures are. But it is laughable to see all of these mod videos and mod screen shots. I'm not talking about the engine crysis runs on, I'm clearly talking about the GAME crysis. And to the fact its not perfect by any stretch of the imagination

i have my i7 920 running at 3.6 atm and its air cooled, so maybe he is OC'n is aswell, but i highly doubt it. not trying to start something just felt like pointing it out. also the benchmarks of the 920 annhilate the highest end Q9550's so ok im done.

Where is crisis?

Send the troops to the kill zone to neutralize crisis!

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

LoL and once again your textures aswell are dropping off dude lol. Come on now, tell me those rocks over there look like they got textures to them. Your pics shows same thing while you are trying to cover that up with the Sun.

And actually looking at some of your screens I would say that is from a mod. And get out of here man with building your own rig lol. A gpu is a gpu dude, and a cpu is a cpu, a psu is a psu. And by the way my i7 will eat your processor for lunch lol. And I haven't even got to ask what kind you got oh never mind a Q6600 lol. The only thing that may slow me down is my motherboard, even though it is good enough to go crossfire, but still like you said its prebuilt, so I would rather have my own in it. But none the less this machine is a beast. And oh yea I've been pc gaming since 1999,

I'm just not one of those that throw around resolutions to think its the end all be all in gaming, just like some think textures are. But it is laughable to see all of these mod videos and mod screen shots. I'm not talking about the engine crysis runs on, I'm clearly talking about the GAME crysis. And to the fact its not perfect by any stretch of the imagination

GreyFoXX4

What card did you say you were running off? Also what rez? My Crysis looks fantastic on very high, I get no texture detail drop off

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

LoL and once again your textures aswell are dropping off dude lol. Come on now, tell me those rocks over there look like they got textures to them. Your pics shows same thing while you are trying to cover that up with the Sun.

And actually looking at some of your screens I would say that is from a mod. And get out of here man with building your own rig lol. A gpu is a gpu dude, and a cpu is a cpu, a psu is a psu. And by the way my i7 will eat your processor for lunch lol. And I haven't even got to ask what kind you got oh never mind a Q6600 lol. The only thing that may slow me down is my motherboard, even though it is good enough to go crossfire, but still like you said its prebuilt, so I would rather have my own in it. But none the less this machine is a beast. And oh yea I've been pc gaming since 1999,

I'm just not one of those that throw around resolutions to think its the end all be all in gaming, just like some think textures are. But it is laughable to see all of these mod videos and mod screen shots. I'm not talking about the engine crysis runs on, I'm clearly talking about the GAME crysis. And to the fact its not perfect by any stretch of the imagination

Fizzman

i have my i7 920 running at 3.6 atm and its air cooled, so maybe he is OC'n is aswell, but i highly doubt it. not trying to start something just felt like pointing it out. also the benchmarks of the 920 annhilate the highest end Q9550's so ok im done.

Yeah the i7 does annihalate the quads in terms of apps and things, in terms of gaming, whilst it's great, it's not a monumental step up over the Q9550/Q9650, considering it's using an entirely new socket. However this will come with time.

i have my i7 920 running at 3.6 atm and its air cooled, so maybe he is OC'n is aswell, but i highly doubt it. not trying to start something just felt like pointing it out. also the benchmarks of the 920 annhilate the highest end Q9550's so ok im done.Fizzman

LOL @ Q6600 > i7. Ok no, I came from a QX9650 to a i7 965. Clock for clock, the i7 is at least 40% better then my previous proc. KTHXBAIDynafrom

This forum is so rediculous at times. Comparing the graphics of Crysis with Killzone 2?

Someone please post some of those nVidia Crytek fansite screenshots.

Indoor levels in Crysis look great, to the person who said otherwise.

i have the same GPU as you so why are you saying "todays gpu's 2 years after crysis release we still can't turn up the game" thats just pointless, and keep dreaming man, my Q6600 is superior to your i7 920 at stock, overclock the i7 to anything over 3 ghz, and then i will lower my guard, for thats when i know the i7's superior architecture will show its strength, i never asked when you started playing, because honestly, i dont give a royal damnGTR2addict

Heres a link for ya.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Crysis-1680x1050,818.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/3DMark-Vantage-CPU,817.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/PCMark-Vantage-Gaming-Suite,814.html

Heck and heres one for ya on how to overclock the i7 920 lol if that concerned about overclocking it lol.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2008/11/06/overclocking-intel-core-i7-920/1

So lets just keep the hardware of our systems out of this discussion ok. Cause there is literally NO article that I can find that says a Q6600 touches the i7 920. So we'll keep this out of the threads ok.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Heres a link for ya.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Crysis-1680x1050,818.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/3DMark-Vantage-CPU,817.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/PCMark-Vantage-Gaming-Suite,814.html

Heck and heres one for ya on how to overclock the i7 920 lol if that concerned about overclocking it lol.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2008/11/06/overclocking-intel-core-i7-920/1

So lets just keep the hardware of our systems out of this discussion ok. Cause there is literally NO article that I can find that says a Q6600 touches the i7 920. So we'll keep this out of the threads ok.

GreyFoXX4

Meh CPU isn't everything, because sticking an i7 with a mediocre graphics card is just going to hold back the processor.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]i have my i7 920 running at 3.6 atm and its air cooled, so maybe he is OC'n is aswell, but i highly doubt it. not trying to start something just felt like pointing it out. also the benchmarks of the 920 annhilate the highest end Q9550's so ok im done.GTR2addict

LOL @ Q6600 > i7. Ok no, I came from a QX9650 to a i7 965. Clock for clock, the i7 is at least 40% better then my previous proc. KTHXBAIDynafrom

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] *sigh* you look at articles to compare CPU's? im not even going to bother explaining everything that is wrong with that post (but on a side note, no overclocking guide will make you overclock, BECAUSE PREBUILTS DONT OVERCLOCK) and another side note, tomshardware=faillundy86_4

Meh CPU isn't everything, because sticking an i7 with a mediocre graphics card is just going to hold back the processor.

P.S. Just for the record I have a 4850 1gb card.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"] he isnt OC'in', apparently you didnt notice he has a Gateway... so he is not overclocking, nor can he ever, on this computer at least

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]LOL @ Q6600 > i7. Ok no, I came from a QX9650 to a i7 965. Clock for clock, the i7 is at least 40% better then my previous proc. KTHXBAIGreyFoXX4

Are you sure? A lot of pre-builts from large manufacturers tend to have locked motherboards, not allowing the CPU to be overclocked, usually because it is only being cooled by a stock cooler. For any type of serious overclock, you're pretty much going to need an aftermarket cooler

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Just a plain and simple lmao at YOU. What ever makes you feel better I guess dude.GreyFoXX4

Meh CPU isn't everything, because sticking an i7 with a mediocre graphics card is just going to hold back the processor.

P.S. Just for the record I have a 4850 1gb card.

Yep 4850 is a pretty good card, but I think even that might hold back an i7 rig.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"] he isnt OC'in', apparently you didnt notice he has a Gateway... so he is not overclocking, nor can he ever, on this computer at least

LOL @ Q6600 > i7. Ok no, I came from a QX9650 to a i7 965. Clock for clock, the i7 is at least 40% better then my previous proc. KTHXBAIDynafrom

^And your talking once again about things you don't know.

oh and emm... youve been scammed, youre paying for a near-to useless 512 mb GDDR3 addGTR2addict

[QUOTE="CobraX75"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Once again resolution DOES NOT ADD CONTENT. Geez, it just makes things look sharper. And I run the game at 1680x1050, so if still seeing bad textures at that rez then guess what, their is bad textures in the game, and alot of them. And that physics engine isn't hardly even used, which Sony just done a deal with Nvidia to incorporate it into its games in the future I guess.GTR2addict

you realize that Physx cant even be hardware accelarated on the PS3 right?

and again, those shots are clearly not of the highest, or even high settings.

ive seen people use a 7800 GTX to accelerate physics ALONE, so it wold never cope with physics and GPU strain, the cell woldnt help at all since trying to process the equivalent on a geforce 6600 in graphics whilst processing normal data wold kill it

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

only on very high end ATI cards...and their is a huge performence loss.

not to mention its not official at all, meaning that no developer would actually do it.

yes, the performance loss is monumental, and developers would more than likely not be allowed to incorporate it into games

everyone in this threads misinformed and full of crap, that one dude posted crysis screenshots of it clearly not running on max graphical settings. and then you are saying 7800 gtx can accelerate ageia physics when it doesnt even support anything but geforce 8 series graphics cards or higher. and then cobra said consoles cant run ageia physics when gears of war 2 on 360 uses ageia physics. WOW lol.bigmacattackjac

I never said consoles cant run Physx, I said they cant hardware accelarate it...which is only possible with a dedicaded PPU card, or a card that supports CUDA.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="bigmacattackjac"] i can see why nvidia doesnt allow ageia physics on ati pc video cards because it would make nvidia's sell less. but there's no reason not to support gpu acceleration on 360.DeckardLee

No. THEY WANT ATI cards to support it so the PhysX brand will kick off. They are funding a coder to make the ATI's drivers capable of the same things Nividia's cards are able to do. IF only Nvidia cards could do PhysX then it would fail.

If you put the physics as "on par" with Crysis you're either off you're rocker or you haven't played Crysis....The physics in Killzone 2 are litterally the same 'Havok' physics engine as was in oblivion years ago.

Ilikemyname420

^And your talking once again about things you don't know.

GreyFoXX4

^

Just leave it alone dude, once again your talking about things you don't know. I DID NOT PAY EXTRA FOR IT, the specs on Gateway for my pc say it suppose to be a 512mb card aswell as the box but by my screenshot it clearly shows Gateway put a 1gb card in this system. And has been said on multiple forums that this had happened to others aswell. SO NO I DID NOT PAY EXTRA LOL. But clearly was a pleasant surprise :)

Crysis is the better looking game. Better lighting without cheap effects, better character models, better physics, better environment/textures/models (both indoor and outdoor), etc.

KZ2 still looks great for a console game though, and the animations are top notch.

Crysis >>>> Killzone for graphics, gameplay, pressentation and Physics

Killzone > Crysis for online thats it.

These two names should should not even be spoken of in the same breath, Crysis is far surperior, FACT.

ackr1TE

Truth. The Comparison is null, and laughable.

^

Just leave it alone dude, once again your talking about things you don't know. I DID NOT PAY EXTRA FOR IT, the specs on Gateway for my pc say it suppose to be a 512mb card aswell as the box but by my screenshot it clearly shows Gateway put a 1gb card in this system. And has been said on multiple forums that this had happened to others aswell. SO NO I DID NOT PAY EXTRA LOL. But clearly was a pleasant surprise :)

GreyFoXX4