Cliffy B on XB1 DRM (Plus a jab at Gamespot....LOL)

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#201 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Poor Cliffy, I'm sure being am multi millionaire is tough goings these days. Vatusus

It's not about him - it's about all the dev studios that make quality titles, but end up going under because of companies like GameStop.

Oh, cry me a river. What about those poor industry workers that built cars and end up going under because of the mean used cars sellers?

 

Oh great, now we're comparing used CARS sales to used video game sales. :lol:

 

You can't justify used games sales and rentals. Any arguement that you make is just going to narrow down to you being cheap.

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#202 The_Gaming_Baby
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You want to stop people buying used games? Then include a decent amount of exclusive content or something very appealing that is only available via a one time code that is included with each game. Create something that would make people prefer to have the new copy over the used copy

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#203 Jebus213
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Create something that would make people prefer to have the new copy over the used copy

The_Gaming_Baby

 

That's easy.

 

Just stop used games sales.

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#204 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"]

Create something that would make people prefer to have the new copy over the used copy

Jebus213

 

That's easy.

 

Just stop used games sales.

  lets stop garage sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

we have a smart person over here lol

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#205 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"]

Create something that would make people prefer to have the new copy over the used copy

pcgamingowns

 

That's easy.

 

Just stop used games sales.

  lets stop garage sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

we have a smart person over here lol

 

 

My garage is a retail store?

 

we have a smart person over here lol

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#206 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

That's easy.

 

Just stop used games sales.

Jebus213

  lets stop garage sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

we have a smart person over here lol

 

 

My garage is a retail store?

 

we have a smart person over here lol

any physical item you can sell pretty much games should be no different smart GUY.
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#207 pcgamingowns
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like nintendo said maybe if you actually made a great game people wouldnt sell it.

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#208 001011000101101
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Poor guy trying to stay relevant now that he's not with Epic anymore. Dude, thank you for making Unreal Tournament, but everything after that has been kinda crap.
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#209 SaltyMeatballs
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Used games are a faux problem because AAA publishers let it become a problem. Block used games and AAA publishers will still be walking the tight rope, there is no direct correlation between a used game sale and reduced new sales. I would love it if everyone could buy new. Publishers need to change, sadly, we don't need every game to be hundreds of millions of dollars.
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#210 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]  lets stop garage sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

we have a smart person over here lol

pcgamingowns

 

 

My garage is a retail store?

 

we have a smart person over here lol

any physical item you can sell pretty much games should be no different smart GUY.

 

Do you even English?

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#211 Jebus213
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You know what, if anybody thinks I'm talking about anything else other then trading, buying used games, and rentals at retail stores then you're an idiot.

 

I'm not talking about disallowing people from sharing or selling it on Ebay.

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#212 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

 

My garage is a retail store?

 

we have a smart person over here lol

Jebus213

any physical item you can sell pretty much games should be no different smart GUY.

 

Do you even English?

You must be very young blocking used games is the dumbest shit ever.
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#213 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] any physical item you can sell pretty much games should be no different smart GUY.pcgamingowns

 

Do you even English?

You must be very young. Blocking used games is the dumbest shit ever.

 

You must be very stupid. Can you prove that?

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#214 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

Do you even English?

Jebus213

You must be very young. Blocking used games is the dumbest shit ever.

 

You must be very stupid. Can you prove that?

How can you call yourself a gamer and want used games to be blocked?
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#215 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] You must be very young. Blocking used games is the dumbest shit ever.pcgamingowns

 

You must be very stupid. Can you prove that?

How can you call yourself a gamer and want used games to be blocked?

 

How about you answer my question. Prove to me that blocking used games is "the dumbest shit ever".

 

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#216 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

You must be very stupid. Can you prove that?

Jebus213

How can you call yourself a gamer and want used games to be blocked?

 

How about you answer my question. Prove to me that blocking used games is "the dumbest shit ever".

 

Example i cant buy quake 4 on xbox360 brand new they stopped making it and you cant buy it off xbox live so how am i supposed to buy  it without buying it used?

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#217 pcgamingowns
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How the hell are you kids playing consoles i grew up playing in the 90s? USED GAMES

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#218 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] How can you call yourself a gamer and want used games to be blocked?pcgamingowns

 

How about you answer my question. Prove to me that blocking used games is "the dumbest shit ever".

 

Example i cant buy quake 4 on xbox360 brand new they stopped making it and you cant buy it off xbox live so how am i supposed to buy  it without buying it used?

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874105451

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009S4UOK

 

http://www.amazon.com/Quake-4-Xbox-360/dp/B007V2LMAM/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1371916402&sr=1-2&keywords=Quake+4

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#219 Jebus213
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How the hell are you kids playing consoles i grew up playing in the 90s? USED GAMES

pcgamingowns

 

I never buy used games. Why? Because somebody probably returned it for a reason other then to save money...

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#220 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

How the hell are you kids playing consoles i grew up playing in the 90s? USED GAMES

Jebus213

 

I never buy used games. Why? Because somebody returned it for a reason other then to save money...

Yea man you bought every game brand new to a console that's no longer made. ahahahah
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#221 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

How the hell are you kids playing consoles i grew up playing in the 90s? USED GAMES

Jebus213

 

I never buy used games. Why? Because somebody probably returned it for a reason other then to save money...

somebody probley returned it because they thought it sucked,.
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#222 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

How the hell are you kids playing consoles i grew up playing in the 90s? USED GAMES

pcgamingowns

 

I never buy used games. Why? Because somebody returned it for a reason other then to save money...

Yea man you bought every game brand new to a console that's no longer made. ahahahah

 

Never said that.

 

Well, it looks like I'm done here.

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#223 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

 

How about you answer my question. Prove to me that blocking used games is "the dumbest shit ever".

 

Jebus213

Example i cant buy quake 4 on xbox360 brand new they stopped making it and you cant buy it off xbox live so how am i supposed to buy  it without buying it used?

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874105451

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009S4UOK

 

http://www.amazon.com/Quake-4-Xbox-360/dp/B007V2LMAM/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1371916402&sr=1-2&keywords=Quake+4

thats online retail stores dont carry it anymore
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#224 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

How the hell are you kids playing consoles i grew up playing in the 90s? USED GAMES

pcgamingowns

 

I never buy used games. Why? Because somebody probably returned it for a reason other then to save money...

somebody probley returned it because they thought it sucked,.

 

Or maybe they bought a bad copy :roll:

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#225 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

I never buy used games. Why? Because somebody returned it for a reason other then to save money...

Jebus213

Yea man you bought every game brand new to a console that's no longer made. ahahahah

 

Never said that.

 

Well, it looks like I'm done here.

then you buy used games dumbass
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#226 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

I never buy used games. Why? Because somebody probably returned it for a reason other then to save money...

Jebus213

somebody probley returned it because they thought it sucked,.

 

Or maybe they bought a bad copy :roll:

bad copy? ok take it to gamestop for another copy
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#227 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] Example i cant buy quake 4 on xbox360 brand new they stopped making it and you cant buy it off xbox live so how am i supposed to buy  it without buying it used?

pcgamingowns

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874105451

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009S4UOK

 

http://www.amazon.com/Quake-4-Xbox-360/dp/B007V2LMAM/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1371916402&sr=1-2&keywords=Quake+4

thats online retail stores dont carry it anymore

 

Okay :lol:

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#228 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874105451

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009S4UOK

 

http://www.amazon.com/Quake-4-Xbox-360/dp/B007V2LMAM/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1371916402&sr=1-2&keywords=Quake+4

Jebus213

thats online retail stores dont carry it anymore

 

Okay :lol:

gamestop doesnt sell brand new copies of quake 4 neither does bestbuy or walmart

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#229 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] thats online retail stores dont carry it anymorepcgamingowns

 

Okay :lol:

gamestop doesnt sell brand new copies of quake 4 neither does bestbuy or walmart

 

Then buy it used or brand new online.

 

Otherwise deal with it.

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#230 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

Okay :lol:

Jebus213

gamestop doesnt sell brand new copies of quake 4 neither does bestbuy or walmart

 

Then buy it used or brand new online.

what if i dont have credit card to order it online with? and if you wanted to block the used game i couldnt buy it used DUMBASS
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#231 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] gamestop doesnt sell brand new copies of quake 4 neither does bestbuy or walmart

pcgamingowns

 

Then buy it used or brand new online.

what if i dont have credit card to order it online with? and if you wanted to block the used game i couldnt buy it used DUMBASS

 

PayPal

 

I said stopping used sales in retail stores.

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#233 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

Then buy it used or brand new online.

Jebus213

what if i dont have credit card to order it online with? and if you wanted to block the used game i couldnt buy it used DUMBASS

 

PayPal

 

I said stopping used sales in retail stores.

what if i dont have paypal? lol
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#234 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] what if i dont have credit card to order it online with? and if you wanted to block the used game i couldnt buy it used DUMBASSpcgamingowns

 

PayPal

 

I said stopping used sales in retail stores.

what if i dont have paypal? lol

 

Then get one.

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#235 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

Then buy it used or brand new online.

Jebus213

what if i dont have credit card to order it online with? and if you wanted to block the used game i couldnt buy it used DUMBASS

 

PayPal

 

I said stopping used sales in retail stores.

if all games were blocked from the beggining none of you kids would be playing the goddamn consoles i grew up playing like 3do or sega saturn or dreamcast and supported when the companys were still manufacturing that console.
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#236 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

PayPal

 

I said stopping used sales in retail stores.

Jebus213

what if i dont have paypal? lol

 

Then get one.

what if i dont want one? Because they take money away
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#237 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] what if i dont have paypal? lol pcgamingowns

 

Then get one.

what if i dont want one? Because they take money away

 

PayPal is free.

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#238 pcgamingowns
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

Then get one.

Jebus213

what if i dont want one? Because they take money away

 

PayPal is free.

nope they take a dollar away lol
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#239 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] what if i dont want one? Because they take money awaypcgamingowns

 

PayPal is free.

nope they take a dollar away lol

 

and then they put it back in your bank. :roll:

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#240 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"] what if i dont have credit card to order it online with? and if you wanted to block the used game i couldnt buy it used DUMBASSpcgamingowns

 

PayPal

 

I said stopping used sales in retail stores.

if all games were blocked from the beggining none of you kids would be playing the goddamn consoles i grew up playing like 3do or sega saturn or dreamcast and supported when the companys were still manufacturing that console.

 

I bet.

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This is that guy who made a bunch of boring games? *yawn* That's nice.
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#242 MirkoS77
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I'm coming to wonder: would people be willing to give up some of their rights if it meant that the industry would really flourish?  Let's just assume that getting rid of used games would give us cheaper prices, that developers would take more risks, that we could see higher budget AAA games, would everyone be cool with not being able to buy/sell used?

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CliffyB wants attention.narutosup
He always wants attention. He is an outspoken idiot. Not sure why everyone bothers to listen. He never says anything worth listening too and I always feel more stupid after reading about him.
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#244 robybaggio
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I'm coming to wonder: would people be willing to give up some of their rights if it meant that the industry would really flourish?  Let's just assume that getting rid of used games would give us cheaper prices, that developers would take more risks, that we could see higher budget AAA games, would everyone be cool with not being able to buy/sell used?

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100%. 110%. Better games means that there is less reason to sell games, you are more likely to keep a game. By accepting used games sales and no DRM you are just biting the hand that feeds you. Gaming developers continue to close down or downsize, another one did a few days ago but nobody noticed it because of the hysteria and because people only care about COD.