Cliffy B - "360 Not Maxxed Out"

This is getting ridiculous....Gears 3 already looks far more impressive than i ever imagined this gen consoles could handle! Well, good news if true.

Not really surprising - now what would be news is Cliffy claiming Epic maxed out 360 with Gears 3. :o :P

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AAAHHHH snap 360 about to go Super Saiyan.

But seriously if thats the case then why doesn't Gears 3 look far better than the PS3 Exclusives? Not saying it doesn't look good but if Cliffy can pull more out of the 360 then why not do it, especially when you had 3 or 4 extra months of polish you could have put on it?

kickass1337

pfftt super saiyan is nothin when your up against and

considering GT and Buu saga are not canon, Super perfect cell is the most powerful DBZ character

just saiyan, maybe make PS3 imperfect cell, hehe

considering GT and Buu saga are not canonHaloinventedFPS

Of course they are.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]considering GT and Buu saga are not canonIronBass

Of course they are.

no, its a fact GT isnt

most fans now agree Buu saga isnt

I wouldn't know since I'm not an expert.

no, its a fact GT isnt

HaloinventedFPS

Not true, that's a common misconception based on Toriyama not having much to do with it. But he actualy had a massive participation in GT, as a writter, character designer and supervisor.

most fans now agree Buu saga isntHaloinventedFPS

Good for them (if true). Things don't stop being canon because some fans don't like them, though.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]no, its a fact GT isnt

IronBass

Not true, that's a common misconception based on Toriyama not having much to do with it. But he actualy had a massive participation in GT, as a writter, character designer and supervisor.

most fans now agree Buu saga isntHaloinventedFPS

Good for them (if true). Things don't stop being canon because some fans don't like them, though.

Toriyama didnt want to do Buu saga, its full of plot holes because of how much toriyama just didnt care anymore, in the past he forgot like a couple of characters, but it didnt have any plotholes

and the Editors kept messing around with Buu saga, Gohan was supposed to beat Buu (there is rough drawings of him killing Buu), but the Editors said fans wanted Goku, so Toriyama made Vegito, Editors then said no just Goku, then we got Spirit bomb killing Kid Buu, lol

Toriyama didnt want to do Buu saga, its full of plot holes because of how much toriyama just didnt care anymore, in the past he forgot like a couple of characters, but it didnt have any plotholes

and the Editors kept messing around with Buu saga, Gohan was supposed to beat Buu (there is rough drawings of him killing Buu), but the Editors said fans wanted Goku, so Toriyama made Vegito, Editors then said no just Goku, then we got Spirit bomb killing Kid Buu, lol

HaloinventedFPS

That's common in most works of fiction. Nothing of that changes anything.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]Toriyama didnt want to do Buu saga, its full of plot holes because of how much toriyama just didnt care anymore, in the past he forgot like a couple of characters, but it didnt have any plotholes

and the Editors kept messing around with Buu saga, Gohan was supposed to beat Buu (there is rough drawings of him killing Buu), but the Editors said fans wanted Goku, so Toriyama made Vegito, Editors then said no just Goku, then we got Spirit bomb killing Kid Buu, lol

IronBass

And? That's common in most works of fiction. Nothing of that changes anything.

Buu Saga sucked, it changes alot of things

Cell saga was so damn good and Toriyama really gave it his best, was his swansong, but since Dragonball was like 40% of the whole Anime/manga market at the time, Toei forced him once more to milk it, not to mention GT

Buu Saga sucked, it changes alot of things

Cell saga was so damn good and Toriyama really gave it his best, was his swansong, but since Dragonball was like 40% of the whole Anime/manga market at the time, Toei forced him once more to milk it, not to mention GT

HaloinventedFPS

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]Buu Saga sucked, it changes alot of things

Cell saga was so damn good and Toriyama really gave it his best, was his swansong, but since Dragonball was like 40% of the whole Anime/manga market at the time, Toei forced him once more to milk it, not to mention GT

IronBass

Dragonball Kai ended at Cell Saga

and Toriyama said GT isnt canon

that enough for you?

Is it possible to max anything out? Of course not. That's like some scientist claiming that we haven't fully fine tuned all our scientific theories. Well, of course we haven't.

and Toriyama said GT isnt canon

HaloinventedFPS

He never said that.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]and Toriyama said GT isnt canon

IronBass

He never said that.

Dragonball MMO doesnt count GT, its not canon

and Toei pretty much said screw you to Buu saga with Kai

new games are looking better and better, so until graphics stop progressing, then you can say that the 360 (goes for other consoles, too) is maxed out.

Dragonball MMO doesnt count GT, its not canon

and Toei pretty much said screw you to Buu saga with Kai

HaloinventedFPS

And? None of both say anything about it being canon or not (especially because both came out more than a decade later than GT).

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]and Toriyama said GT isnt canon

IronBass

He never said that.

The 360 has been pretty been maxed out since 2007, optimization of the game code will not allow the console to keep on getting better and better. Both consoles are resource and hardware limited. Having only 512mb of total memory and only 256mb for both video and system use really limits in what they can do. Consoles with their limited resources have to make dev's into doing a lot of compromises its a juggling act in what stays and what goes. In Gears 2 they had to lower LOD on locus and use 2d objects at distances to help offset the use of the new lighting used in the game. For Cliffy B and the others who believe that consoles haven't reached their limit or been maxed out need a reality check about their consoles abilities .

i really wish this gen would die already, they cant do anything else that will wow people on a piece of 6 year old hardware, the annoying thing is that these consoles are holding everyone back (pc games do look great but could look so much better if a new gen would just start, same goes for the scale of games)

360 isn't maxed out but I'm still enjoying Crysis on my Super FX Chip.

I don't care what so-called corners they cut, or if there isn't any FXAA(whatever that is). The game looks very good and runs very smoothly. That's all I ask for. This developer gets my attention, even if it is BS.

I would hope so, cuz gears3 doenst look very impressive to me..and yea ahhh those jaggies!!! killzowned24

I would hope so, cuz gears3 doenst look very impressive to me..and yea ahhh those jaggies!!! killzowned24

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]I would hope so, cuz gears3 doenst look very impressive to me..and yea ahhh those jaggies!!! WilliamRLBaker

I like Cliffy B but I disagree, how much better can the 360 get.

:lol: at ppl who listen to developers saying "not maxed out" 6 years into this gen :lol: :lol: :lol:silversix_

As opposed to listening to random forum goers with zero development experience? :?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]I would hope so, cuz gears3 doenst look very impressive to me..and yea ahhh those jaggies!!! killzowned24

I'm sorry, but i don't belive this, i mean, if it isn't Maxed Out yet...then why GEOW3 doesn't look better?

DVD9 on 360 is maxed out. iwasgood2u

I'm sorry, but i don't belive this, i mean, if it isn't Maxed Out yet...then why GEOW3 doesn't look better?

madsnakehhh

[QUOTE="iwasgood2u"]DVD9 on 360 is maxed out. godzillavskong

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="iwasgood2u"]DVD9 on 360 is maxed out. clone01

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I'm sorry, but i don't belive this, i mean, if it isn't Maxed Out yet...then why GEOW3 doesn't look better?

godzillavskong

I'm not saying that it looks bad, i'm sure it looks great , however, how can he say that the console is not maxed out, i found that completely stupid, i mean, after 3 games they still cannot max out the console? what is holding them back? is he saying that he knew that the console has more power yet he didn't use all that power for GEOW3? the final part of the trilogy, the climax of the series? yeah...more like trash talk (which is not the uncommon for Cliff B.)

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="iwasgood2u"]DVD9 on 360 is maxed out. clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"] Now that is true and is one of the biggest issues with the 360. godzillavskong

Uhm PC games are on DVDs :?

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"] Now that is true and is one of the biggest issues with the 360. godzillavskong

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]I would hope so, cuz gears3 doenst look very impressive to me..and yea ahhh those jaggies!!! killzowned24

Meh. Gears of War 3 is still the best looking game on a console by a pretty decent margin.

The hidden power of the consoles emerges again? Think it's disheartening it's 2011 and people still play in 720 at barely 30 fps. And there's years of the same more to come. I guess the "Consoles have hidden power and are constantly evolving" is something console only owners can cling too.. GeneralShowzer

Some of us just don't care. I'm more than happy with my 720 resolution and 30 fps :P

And I'm still impressed by the graphics that newer console games have to offer.

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="clone01"] how so? can you explain how DVD delivers less graphical experience than blu-ray?NoodleFighter

Uhm PC games are on DVDs :?

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[QUOTE="godzillavskong"] Also here is a article with the link at the end.( In 2008, id Software's Technical Director, John Carmack told Shacknews that their upcoming post-apocalyptic shooter, Rage, will look worse on the Xbox 360 than on the Playstation 3 version due to the amount of compression needed to fit the entire game on not just one disc, but two. Carmack then went on to say that they could not feasibly get the game onto three discs because the resulting royalty fees would simply be too high. Xbox 360 exclusive Lost Odyssey was stretched across as many as 4 DVDs. Since each DVD can hold around 9GB, that amounts to roughly 36GB in total, something that could easily have been fit onto one Blu-ray disc.) Read more at Suite101: Is the Xbox 360 crippled by its use of DVD?: Has Microsoft Shot Itself in the Foot by Staying with an Old Format? | Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/content/is-the-xbox-360-crippled-by-its-use-of-dvd-a203966#ixzz1YkFlO1TD04dcarraher

Uhm PC games are on DVDs :?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]I would hope so, cuz gears3 doenst look very impressive to me..and yea ahhh those jaggies!!! killzowned24

For me, I think this is it.. Uncharted series, Gears of War is about the best we're going to get from this console. Consoles need better AA and frame rate higher than 30fps. At least in the 40-50fps but we won't see that until next gen maybe? I don't know. Gears of War 3 would look and PLAY so damn good if it was 60fps. It's too choppy for my taste considering I'm mainly a PC gamer. It's just something I have to get adjusted to whenever I game on the consoles. Even then, I don't let it get to me because playing console exclusives is soooo worth it.