CNET reveals the shocking truth about console sales!!!!!

I've explained this to all you armchair marketing guru's before. The shipped to retail number is very close to sold to consumer, as retailers only stock things that actually sell. MS is constantly shipping units to retailers, as requested. Retailers don't just buy 5 million of them and hope they sell. They buy a few thousand, sell them, then order more. Shipped to retail is just as good as sold to consumers. farrell2k

Don't bother. This thread is the product of insecure SOny fanboys trying to make themselves feel better.

I've explained this to all you armchair marketing guru's before. The shipped to retail number is very close to sold to consumer, as retailers only stock things that actually sell. MS is constantly shipping units to retailers, as requested. Retailers don't just buy 5 million of them and hoipe they sell. They uh a few thousand, sell them, then order more. Shipped to retail is just as good as sold to consumers. farrell2k

yes but there're a lot of shops you know, so if you sum all the 360 on all them there could be quite a lot of them. I dont know how many but it could reach millions?

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]

Your title is misleading. It's a blogger on CNET, not the actual website.

And that last part is nothing new. Wait until next year.

AncientDozer

You win the inter--OH GOD! HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE I LIVE?!?!

I love this sig so much.

4. The other key item you are omitting is that as the next gen of the PS3 games are hitting the quality of them is unatainable by the xbox 360. The almost photo realistic in game graphics, amazing image rendering, simultaneous physics manipulation of over thousands of indiviual items, and extreme differences in pixel rendering of the PS3 to the xbox 360 will start to become very clear as these new titles roll out. Halo 3 Bioshock, Forza 2, & Gears of War all have a cartoonish graphic saturation to them as a result of the xbox 360's graphic limitation. Even a Halo 3 bungie developer said that to include the flame thrower in Halo 3 was a major challenge due to the high cost of resources - this is a joke as a PS 3 doesn't even break a sweat with this kind of image rendering.

With all of the talk about Halo being the greatest gaming franchise one must bring people back to reality with the worlds real greatest gaming franchise Gran Turismo which has sold over 50 million copies to date. As of this time Halo 1 and Halo 2 have sold a grand total of 13 million copies and even if Halo 3 exceeds the 8 million copies of Halo 2 it will still have sold less copies than Gran Turismo. So why do I bring this up? Check it out below.

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue the most realistic racing simulator ever:
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/857/857126/img_4801523.html
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/857/857126/img_4801564.html

This is also the example of graphic in game capabilities that the xbox 360 will never be able to do and thus not be able to provide a gaming experience to the same level that the PS3 will.

gameruk2010

If this meant to infer that this is related to PS3's sales (I mean besides the Gran Turismo-Halo part), remember a couple of things:

1. 50 Cent: Bulletproof. Enough said.

2. The Wii's lack of hardware capability seems not to have too much effect on its sales.

If that was meant to back up coming PS3 sales with its future quality, then that's alright. Though graphics aren't the only part of a game's quality (again, I can see your point on the Gran Turismo thing).

This is the son of the original poster, my father died by the time he was almost done reading it.TalesofRaGnArOk

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I love this sig so much.manningbowl135

Its cool, but about 750km off where I live :P

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]I love this sig so much.niisan

Its cool, but about 750km off where I live :P

That's almost near...

SHUT UP! My sig is always right. :x

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ReverseCycology

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So for 360 sales, we have to trust Financial Times numbers of 8.9 million b/c it's a "truly respectable source", but since it also says the PS3 has "only sold 3.7 million", we must take the PS3 numbers from Kaz Hirai.manningbowl135

Cow logic. Does it still surprise you after all this time?

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Just wait until next year.:P

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Here's the thing, sold to consumers (vs sold to retailers) really means absolutely nothing. Technically speaking, MS only makes money off of the units sold to retailers like EB, Gamestop, Best Buy etc. After that MS (or Nintendo or Sony) will never see a dime directly off of consoles. Sure they'll make money indirectly through sales of accessories, games, XBL accounts, DLC etc., but as far as the console manufacturers are concerned, sold to consumers is a pretty meaningless number. They get their estimates as to how many consumers buy their products through orders from retailers. So in reality, once that console is shipped to retailers, as far as a manufacturer is concerned its as good as sold to consumers, because in reality the consumer in the case of console sales is the retailer.bobaban

Yeah that makes alot of sense. As long as the retailers purchase the system, sales to consumer really don't matter. I mean it's not like they need a growing market to fund development of games.......oh wait.

Consumer sales are extremely important to any company. If consumers don't buy out all of the stock, the retailer won't be asking for more 360s anytime soon.

Epic Phail.

A holocaust of bloggers is the only situation where a holocaust is not only justified, but encouraged.

I wonder how many of those 360s sold are from people that bought one for a 2nd or 3rd time.fierro316

MS fixes them for free. So probably very little.

I've explained this to all you armchair marketing guru's before. The shipped to retail number is very close to sold to consumer, as retailers only stock things that actually sell. MS is constantly shipping units to retailers, as requested. Retailers don't just buy 5 million of them and hope they sell. They buy a few thousand, sell them, then order more. Shipped to retail is just as good as sold to consumers. farrell2k

Yeah, and we all know that nobody is returning any defective 360s to stores to swap. So the fact that MS counts replacement units shipped to stores as part of their units shipped isn't going to inflate the numbers at all, is it?

[QUOTE="fierro316"]I wonder how many of those 360s sold are from people that bought one for a 2nd or 3rd time.JocktheMotie

MS fixes them for free. So probably very little.

They've been replacing them for like 3 months (3 year warranty extension). A console that is almost 2 y/o.

That article is a blog of a random user on CNET.DaAznSaN

eh.... its facts but its not from Cnet themselves

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ReverseCycology

:lol: thread winner

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ReverseCycology

Halo 1 and 2 copies sold 13 million

Grand Turismo Series 50 million copies

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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

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caseypayne69

Halo 1 and 2 copies sold 13 million

Grand Turismo Series 50 million copies

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Xbox userbase 27 million

PS userbase 115 million

Halo series at time had 2 games

Grand Turismo Series has a total of 4 games.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

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caseypayne69

Halo 1 and 2 copies sold 13 million

Grand Turismo Series 50 million copies

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Last time I checked, the GT series spans across 2 #1 consoles of their generation. Halo 1 & 2 were both on a console that sold about 30 million.

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spinecaton

Halo 1 and 2 copies sold 13 million

Grand Turismo Series 50 million copies

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Xbox userbase 27 million

PS userbase 115 million

Halo series at time had 2 games

Grand Turismo Series has a total of 4 games.

PS2 userbase is NOW like 130 millionish, but it was NOT when GT3 came out. GT3 sold over 11 million (That's not terrible below Halo 1 and 2 put together. But thanks for pointing out that GT had only twice as many games as Halo, but 4 times as many sales.

China called......

That article is a blog of a random user on CNET.DaAznSaN

a random user....hmm maybe you should read the links... pretty much there are 11.6 million 360s SHIPPEDE and only8.9 million about have been sold

in the mean while PS3 will have 11 million shipped by march and right now have about 5 million sold (something around that)

PS2 userbase is NOW like 130 millionish, but it was NOT when GT3 came out. GT3 sold over 11 million (That's not terrible below Halo 1 and 2 put together. But thanks for pointing out that GT had only twice as many games as Halo, but 4 times as many sales.

ianuilliam

But the userbase was still triple that of xbox. Let's see how GT5 sells now that PS3 is way below 360 in sales.

I wonder how many of those 360s sold are from people that bought one for a 2nd or 3rd time.fierro316

LOL wow thats funny.... no joke 360 probly only has around 7 million sold.... hah like actually working 9 million sold 2 million RROD or other problems...i wonder though seriously how thye count those numbers

Right now and for several months to come there will be a solid glow on the xbox 360 from Halo 3. But after this passes reality of the PS3 and the difference of the gaming experience will start to become very clear. Xbox 360's games will feel like they were developed in the 90's vs the PS3's true next gen gaming experiences.

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ReverseCycology

OOOOOOOOOOH MY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH ! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!

[QUOTE="jd7-03"]Nearly 3 million people bought Halo 3 in the US alone! Don't give me that crap that only 4 million or whatever have been sold. MS has sold over 11 million now. gameruk2010

lol around 4 millions have gears of war so everybody who owns a 360 has gears of war then? lol you make no sense

What ever make you sleep at night, but the blogger backed his claims with hard evidence. so I know which 1 to believe.

The 360 has only sold 8.9 mill units in two years!!! wow..that's pathetic...after halo3 they have nothing with mass appeal. I am willing to bet the 360 wont last for more than 2 more years.

/TLHBO

The 360 has only sold 8.9 mill units in two years!!! wow..that's pathetic...after halo3 they have nothing with mass appeal. I am willing to bet the 360 wont last for more than 2 more years.

/TLHBO

WalterPaladines

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I stopped reading after the 2nd sentence.........what's going on?? Where are I ??KBFTodd

360 shipped 11.6 million

360 sold 8.9 million in 20 months

ps3 sold around 5.5 million in10 months w/ high price/ no games

360 owned

Lol, here's what CNET said, and not some random poster: http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13506_1-9783413-17.html

Up to this point, the Playstation 3 has performed about as poorly as we can expect from a console. With no games to tout as deal breakers, the PlayStation 3 is dead in the water. And while some still hope for the days of Killzone saving the PS3's day, it's time to give up hope--nothing can save it now.cnet

Ah, here's the article I was looking for.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/30/HNsonyprofits_1.html

Sony wouldn't provide anyPlayStation 3 shipment estimates for the coming financial year but said it remains confident it will ship 6 million consoles up to March. It also revised upwards its PlayStation 2 shipment forecast from 11 million units to 13 million units. Sony counts shipments as finished consoles leaving its factory for Sony warehouses and distributors.

And this pretty much shoots this thread straight to hell, now doesn't it. ;)

Yellow_Rose

So for 360 sales, we have to trust Financial Times numbers of 8.9 million b/c it's a "truly respectable source", but since it also says the PS3 has "only sold 3.7 million", we must take the PS3 numbers from Kaz Hirai.manningbowl135

Yeah, this post is full of contradictory and conflicting info.To base an opinion from the information presented would be most unwise.

In summary: I don't want to read this, wahhhh! Get over yourselves, Xbox 360 fans.Redfingers

9.5, another 360 AAA exclusive, how many does PS3 have?

[QUOTE="KBFTodd"]I stopped reading after the 2nd sentence.........what's going on?? Where are I ??JAMES_L_BROOKS

360 shipped 11.6 million

360 sold 8.9 million in 20 months

ps3 sold around 5.5 million in10 months w/ high price/ no games

360 owned

Actually NO! the 360 shipped around 11.6 million and sold 8.9 million

the PS3 shipped around 5-6 million and sold 3.7 million.

: )

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