Compare 3DS current library to Vita's launch games

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#151 p4s2p0
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"][QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]In the long run the 3DS will have the better library.WreckEm711

Not really, no!

History says yes it will, but of course history has a habit of turning companies upside down, so it'll be an interesting handheld race :P

Actaully library quality is an opinion, as I liked psp's better. Though ds did have a bigger library but that doesn't make it better.
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#152 shinrabanshou
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The reality is that if you remove every quality game from either library that isn't a sequel to a franchise, a port of an old game or a multiplatform release, you're pretty much left with next to nothing on either new handheld besides eStore/PSN minis.

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#153 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="digimonkey12"] Not really, no!p4s2p0

History says yes it will, but of course history has a habit of turning companies upside down, so it'll be an interesting handheld race :P

Actaully library quality is an opinion, as I liked psp's better. Though ds did have a bigger library but that doesn't make it better.

It had a bigger library of highly rated exclusives. Whether or not you like the games available is subjective, library quality isn't. The DS had a superior library.

The 360/PS3 libraries overall including multiplats are superior to the Wii's, yet I still prefer my Wii. Doesn't mean I think the Wii library is higher quality, that would be dillusional, it just has games more suited to my taste.

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#154 meetroid8
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The reality is that if you remove every quality game from either library that isn't a sequel to a franchise, a port of an old game or a multiplatform release, you're pretty much left with next to nothing on either new handheld besides eStore/PSN minis.

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Is that a problem? Especially considering how young they both are?
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#155 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

The reality is that if you remove every quality game from either library that isn't a sequel to a franchise, a port of an old game or a multiplatform release, you're pretty much left with next to nothing on either new handheld besides eStore/PSN minis.

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Is that a problem? Especially considering how young they both are?

Not for me. I'm not saying that's a problem, but rather it's simply the reality of the situation - for both platforms.

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#156 Kaylomaylo-
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It had a bigger library of highly rated exclusives. Whether or not you like the games available is subjective, library quality isn't. The DS had a superior library. The 360/PS3 libraries overall including multiplats are superior to the Wii's, yet I still prefer my Wii. Doesn't mean I think the Wii library is higher quality, that would be dillusional, it just has games more suited to my taste.WreckEm711
This is definitely a smart way to look at things. Library quality isn't subjective.
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#157 p4s2p0
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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

History says yes it will, but of course history has a habit of turning companies upside down, so it'll be an interesting handheld race :P

WreckEm711

Actaully library quality is an opinion, as I liked psp's better. Though ds did have a bigger library but that doesn't make it better.

It had a bigger library of highly rated exclusives. Whether or not you like the games available is subjective, library quality isn't. The DS had a superior library.

The 360/PS3 libraries overall including multiplats are superior to the Wii's, yet I still prefer my Wii. Doesn't mean I think the Wii library is higher quality, that would be dillusional, it just has games more suited to my taste.

Ratings are also subjective. I liked ds library but I didn't like ds's hardware limitations. 3ds fixes that, now that I have a vita I might get a one someday.
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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]Wipeout is going to be on PS3, Super Stardust is available on PS3 (though its older and I'm not sure what is different), Modnation RT is inferior to the PS3 version in nearly every way (no online). The others I guess so. I wouldn't say Little Deviants and Lumines, Shinobido are anything to write home about, but that's IMO, not fact.Slashkice

Wipeout 2048 is not going to the PS3. Super Stardust HD and Super Stardust Delta are not the same thing. I don't see why you're even bringing up the quality of Modnation Racers when you had no problem giving Tekken 3D mention.

You said in another thread you don't know why people think you have an agenda against the Vita. I'll help you out and tell you posts like these are why.

Sorry about that mistake bro
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#159 p4s2p0
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]It had a bigger library of highly rated exclusives. Whether or not you like the games available is subjective, library quality isn't. The DS had a superior library. The 360/PS3 libraries overall including multiplats are superior to the Wii's, yet I still prefer my Wii. Doesn't mean I think the Wii library is higher quality, that would be dillusional, it just has games more suited to my taste.Kaylomaylo-
This is definitely a smart way to look at things. Library quality isn't subjective.

Game library's aren't subjective all have had good games, but what we like or dislike about them is. Psp had a great library yet I've seen ppl say it had a bad one.
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#160 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Ocarina3D and Starfox3D are jokes of games. Great games, but sad that they were even part of a new console launch. What's next, Pikmin2 HD for the wiiu? Or WindWaker HD for the wiiu? C'mon now...

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Sarcasm? Every console gets ports and remakes at launch. It lets devs get acquainted with the new hardware. Might as well make the best of it.

I'm being serious. I own both games, and I enjoy them, but in spending $250 on a new console I expect NEW games. The $40 price tags were a joke.

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#161 glimpus
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doesnt matter, 3DS is better. anyone with a brain knows that. do you have a brain?

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#162 Djmaster214
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] All that horsepower doesn't mean jack if you only have 5 minutes to kill, though. iOS games are perfectly tuned for short-burst gameplay, so as something you carry around day to day, an iOS device will always beat a handheld. Cherokee_Jack

And there is your difference. If I am needing to kill 5 minutes going to the bathroom, I am taking my phone. If I am traveling, I am taking a portable, since more travel means more time to spend gaming. Make that your target audience. Enough business pros are in the gamer age group now for that to be worth it.

True, but how often do people really travel, besides business types?

The Nintendogs/Brain Training audience is still around, and I imagine they mostly sit at home with their handhelds. The existence of the DSi XL (and its senior-focused marketing) proves that, I think.

uhh us militrary folk travel alot, im gone 220 days out a year
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#163 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And there is your difference. If I am needing to kill 5 minutes going to the bathroom, I am taking my phone. If I am traveling, I am taking a portable, since more travel means more time to spend gaming. Make that your target audience. Enough business pros are in the gamer age group now for that to be worth it.Djmaster214

True, but how often do people really travel, besides business types?

The Nintendogs/Brain Training audience is still around, and I imagine they mostly sit at home with their handhelds. The existence of the DSi XL (and its senior-focused marketing) proves that, I think.

uhh us militrary folk travel alot, im gone 220 days out a year

OK, that still not the typical consumer.
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#164 Djmaster214
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[QUOTE="Djmaster214"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

True, but how often do people really travel, besides business types?

The Nintendogs/Brain Training audience is still around, and I imagine they mostly sit at home with their handhelds. The existence of the DSi XL (and its senior-focused marketing) proves that, I think.

Cherokee_Jack

uhh us militrary folk travel alot, im gone 220 days out a year

OK, that still not the typical consumer.

errr...that couldnt be more wrong,i think the dozens of psp's ds and xboxs littered around my squadron would argue other wise, whats your definition of a typical consumer out of curiosity?

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#165 Fire_Emblem_RD
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I don't even think its a question? Mario Kart 3DS Mario 3D Land Ocarina of Time 3D are all great games, each with a stack of replay value. They alone are enough to warrant a purchase at the moment, reception was favourable as well. I want Gravity Rush, thats it, there is not a chance the Vita launch library can match the 3DS's first year.
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errr...that couldnt be more wrong,i think the dozens of psp's ds and xboxs littered around my squadron would argue other wise, whats your definition of a typical consumer out of curiosity?Djmaster214
So the typical consumer of handhelds is in the military? Really?
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#168 jg4xchamp
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Games I would play on the 2 handheld devices
3DS
-Resident Evil: Revelations
-Super Mario 3D Land
-Mario Kart 7

PSVita
-Lumines Electric Symphony
-Uncharted Golden Abyss

Games that sell me either handheld device

3DS -nothing

PSvita -nothing

My thoughts.

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#169 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I said some critical things about the 3DS, but I just read over at Eurogamer that Motorstorm RC is NOT online multiplayer? That is two games that have been gimped. Two GOOD games. Unfortunate, imo.

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#170 p4s2p0
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doesnt matter, 3DS is better. anyone with a brain knows that. do you have a brain?

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I know it will probably sell more but that doesn't change I like vita better
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Gamers argue over pity things my god.:(

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[QUOTE="Djmaster214"]errr...that couldnt be more wrong,i think the dozens of psp's ds and xboxs littered around my squadron would argue other wise, whats your definition of a typical consumer out of curiosity?Cherokee_Jack
So the typical consumer of handhelds is in the military? Really?

Mostly, ya
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#173 FILIPINOMAZTER
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the vita launch line up is obviously better but theres no way im paying 300 bucks for a vita
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#174 NaveedLife
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ipeout 2048

Lumines Electric Symphony

Rayman origins

Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom

Uncharted: Golden Abyss

Blaze Blue Continum Shift

Virtua Tennis 4

Hot Shots Golf

Fifa Soccer

Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus

All of the games in red are on other systems, with most the others basically idential to their console counterparts. 3DS has tons of true exclusives that are very good, with many more coming. I will get a Vita if they can show me more games for it and it alone that are worth it.

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#175 infinite884
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ipeout 2048

Lumines Electric Symphony

Rayman origins

Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom

Uncharted: Golden Abyss

Blaze Blue Continum Shift

Virtua Tennis 4

Hot Shots Golf

Fifa Soccer

Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus

All of the games in red are on other systems, with most the others basically idential to their console counterparts. 3DS has tons of true exclusives that are very good, with many more coming. I will get a Vita if they can show me more games for it and it alone that are worth it.

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why are we comparing a systems launch line up to a system thats been out for over a year?
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#176 ispeakfact
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Vita's launch titles definitely destroy the 3DS library.
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#177 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

ipeout 2048

Lumines Electric Symphony

Rayman origins

Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom

Uncharted: Golden Abyss

Blaze Blue Continum Shift

Virtua Tennis 4

Hot Shots Golf

Fifa Soccer

Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus

All of the games in red are on other systems, with most the others basically idential to their console counterparts. 3DS has tons of true exclusives that are very good, with many more coming. I will get a Vita if they can show me more games for it and it alone that are worth it.

infinite884

why are we comparing a systems launch line up to a system thats been out for over a year?

Because that is what the topic is about :P. I think it is crazy too, but as of right now that is how I feel. I honestly am a bit skeptical it will change (that much), but hopefully it does. Or maybe not, since I will then buy a Vita :P.

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#178 p4s2p0
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The past 2 gens I've seen launch games I really wanted. When psp came out I was playing tony hawk a lot sure enough it was a launch game. Since psp didn't get ninja gaiden I wanted to see it on vita, sure enough. 3ds got splinter cell one of my favs Though psp had more launch games for me I got tony hawk,spiderman 2,need for speed rivals
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#179 Eponique
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Super Mario 3D Land is probably the best handheld game this gen so far.
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#180 NaveedLife
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Super Mario 3D Land is probably the best handheld game this gen so far.Eponique

MK7 > SM3DL :P

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#181 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]Super Mario 3D Land is probably the best handheld game this gen so far.NaveedLife

MK7 > SM3DL :P

I know :P But I didn't say that because WipeOut fanboys are crazy. One of them asked me what was wrong with 40 second load times. I didn't know how to reply :(
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#182 digimonkey12
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="digimonkey12"] Not really, no!p4s2p0

History says yes it will, but of course history has a habit of turning companies upside down, so it'll be an interesting handheld race :P

Actaully library quality is an opinion, as I liked psp's better. Though ds did have a bigger library but that doesn't make it better.

Exactly.
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#183 p4s2p0
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]Super Mario 3D Land is probably the best handheld game this gen so far.Eponique

MK7 > SM3DL :P

I know :P But I didn't say that because WipeOut fanboys are crazy. One of them asked me what was wrong with 40 second load times. I didn't know how to reply :(

45 secs according to this but there is a patch for it. http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2012/02/14/wipeout-2048-gets-loading-time-reducing-patch/ After psp's 103 sec average. I was impressed how fast ninja gaiden loaded on vita.
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]Super Mario 3D Land is probably the best handheld game this gen so far.Eponique

MK7 > SM3DL :P

I know :P But I didn't say that because WipeOut fanboys are crazy. One of them asked me what was wrong with 40 second load times. I didn't know how to reply :(

lmao. I just don't like wipeout. It is so darn boring (PS3 one anyway). it is just a tight track with little going on. it is like F-Zero or Extreme G with all the life sucked out.

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[QUOTE="Eponique"]Super Mario 3D Land is probably the best handheld game this gen so far.NaveedLife

MK7 > SM3DL :P

Blasphemy.
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#186 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]Super Mario 3D Land is probably the best handheld game this gen so far.charizard1605

MK7 > SM3DL :P

Blasphemy.

Truth :cool:

Graphics: Better

Lasting Appeal: Better

Audio: Same

Presentation: Same

Gameplay: Better (due to a slow start in SM3DL)

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#187 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

MK7 > SM3DL :P

NaveedLife

Blasphemy.

Truth :cool:

Graphics: Better

Lasting Appeal: Better

Audio: Same

Presentation: Same

Gameplay: Better (due to a slow start in SM3DL)

nah man, the character models and lighting in 3d land are way better.

plus it may start out slow but world eight onwards is fun as f*ck

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#188 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Blasphemy.Shinobishyguy

Truth :cool:

Graphics: Better

Lasting Appeal: Better

Audio: Same

Presentation: Same

Gameplay: Better (due to a slow start in SM3DL)

nah man, the character models and lighting in 3d land are way better.

plus it may start out slow but world eight onwards is fun as f*ck

lol thats almost half the game starting out slow! :P

And nothing about the graphics in SM3DL are better than MK7. MK7 is very good looking and very smooth (framerate). SM3DL is a great game, but MK7 is better lol.

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#189 cainetao11
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Vita does not have a single exluisve

So obviously any 3DS game is better

Also Zelda OOT could be a better game than all handheld games that have appeared until today in all platforms

And 3DS plays all DS games, all Zeldas and a infinite number of other quality titles and RPGs

Vita sadly does not have BC at all

loosingENDS
so why can I play my god of war psp games that downloaded on my vita?
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#190 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Djmaster214"]errr...that couldnt be more wrong,i think the dozens of psp's ds and xboxs littered around my squadron would argue other wise, whats your definition of a typical consumer out of curiosity?LastRambo341
So the typical consumer of handhelds is in the military? Really?

Mostly, ya

Interesting! Source please?
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#191 helwa1988
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Exclusives is the key. 3ds has exclusive games. Vita has ports. And the launch line up is of option. I personal think the vita launch line up pitiful. I plan on getting a vita but I'm not paying 250 + memory card for games I'm not feeling.
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#192 p4s2p0
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Exclusives is the key..helwa1988
It is and both always have plenty of them. I'm looking forward to a new resistance,god of war,socom on vita, uncharted looks alright only played the demo. Unit 13 will also be new.
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#193 Optical_Order
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Vita blows the 3DS out of the water.

Probably won't be getting either though. :P

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#195 pppjjj
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Vita blows the 3DS out of the water.

Probably won't be getting either though. :P

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In what way? I own both but I dont see Vita blowing anything out of the water.
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#196 digimonkey12
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Vita does not have a single exluisve

So obviously any 3DS game is better

Also Zelda OOT could be a better game than all handheld games that have appeared until today in all platforms

And 3DS plays all DS games, all Zeldas and a infinite number of other quality titles and RPGs

Vita sadly does not have BC at all

cainetao11
so why can I play my god of war psp games that downloaded on my vita?

Because the guy obviously dont know what he is talking about. PSVITA does not have exclusives??? Bwahahahahaha
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#197 bonesawisready5
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[QUOTE="helwa1988"]Exclusives is the key. 3ds has exclusive games. Vita has ports. And the launch line up is of option. I personal think the vita launch line up pitiful. I plan on getting a vita but I'm not paying 250 + memory card for games I'm not feeling.Desmonic
....joke right?

It's his opinion. So no.
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#198 bonesawisready5
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[QUOTE="helwa1988"]Exclusives is the key..p4s2p0
It is and both always have plenty of them. I'm looking forward to a new resistance,god of war,socom on vita, uncharted looks alright only played the demo. Unit 13 will also be new.

I'm looking forward to those games getting ported to the PS3/PS4 in the future (hopefully) Like I've said many times before, I will not trust Sony to not pull a PSP on the Vita (porting PSP games to PS2/PS3) until they stop doing it for at least 2-3 years into the Vita's life. Not saying they will, but I'm going to wait and see.
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#200 monson21502
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looks like sony is a long ways off imo