Console games are like rap...

I have noticed that when comparing PC and console games, it's a lot like comparing music. PC games would be rock music and console games would be rap.

Console games are like rap...First off, the fan base. Rap attracts a younger crowd...consoles attract a younger crowd. Rap songs come off as big and flashy and the "cool" thing, but really they fail to offer any real depth or innovation....just like console games. Speaking of innovation, You console fanboys might think Halo is the best thing since sliced bread, but here is some trivia for you:

The first Halo game was announced on July 21, 1999 during the Macworld Conference & Expo. It was originally planned to be a RTS game for the Mac and Windows, but later changed into a third person action game. On June 19, 2000 Microsoft acquired Bungie Studios and Halo became an Xbox exclusive title...So your "big hit", one of the biggest selling game in console game history....is a PC game at birth.

Which brings me to my next comparison. Console games, like rap, tend to take a lot of their content from already existing ideas. This would be in the form of game ports and sampling/covering songs. How many great rock songs have been ruined by crappy rap artists covering, or sampling them....and how many great PC games were made a mockery of being ported to console. In all fairness though, this is more of an old-school trait for console games, and not so much now. Back in the day, consoles received a lot of PC ports because the PC had already been out for some time and had time to establish a line of "hit" games. So they figured, if it worked on the PC, why not on console? As we realized through the years, some games are just meant to be played on PC. Today, games are typicallyreleased on bo th platforms quite often from the start...Rap on the other-hand, continues to butcher Rock songs rather than actually think of original beats and ideas.

New rap songs tends to be cool for a couple weeks, and then die. And when they die, they do not fade away gracefully, they crash and burn. you might as well bury it in a lead box, cover it with cement, and build a skyscraper on top of it. How many times have you seen someone on the road bumpin "the Fat Boys" or "Fresh Prince." It's not cool to play old rap, and it's not cool to play old console games....I've actually seen people look online, and make fun of people if they were playing an older game. In fact, if you want to play an older console game online...good like finding people on the servers. Whereas on the PC, like rock music, old is perfectly fine. Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Neil Young, all are just as popular now as they were when they were new. And you will still find people playing games like Doom, UT, Starcraft, and D2 online....And the PC attracts an older, more mature crowd, so they won't make fun of you if you choose to play the older titles.

If you have any comments to say...well, thats what forums are for.

I like games. Rap, not so much.....

I have noticed that when comparing PC and console games, it's a lot like comparing music. PC games would be rock music and console games would be rap.

Console games are like rap...First off, the fan base. Rap attracts a younger crowd...consoles attract a younger crowd. Rap songs come off as big and flashy and the "cool" thing, but really they fail to offer any real depth or innovation....just like console games. Speaking of innovation, You console fanboys might think Halo is the best thing since sliced bread, but here is some trivia for you:

The first Halo game was announced on July 21, 1999 during the Macworld Conference & Expo. It was originally planned to be a RTS game for the Mac and Windows, but later changed into a third person action game. On June 19, 2000 Microsoft acquired Bungie Studios and Halo became an Xbox exclusive title...So your "big hit", probably the biggest selling game in console game history....is a PC game at birth.

Which brings me to my next comparison. Console games, like rap, tend to take a lot of their content from already existing ideas. This would be in the form of game ports and sampling/covering songs. How many great rock songs have been ruined by crappy rap artists covering, or sampling them....and how many great PC games were made a mockery of being ported to console. In all fairness though, this is more of an old-school trait for console games, and not so much now. Back in the day, consoles received a lot of PC ports because the PC had already been out for some time and had time to establish a line of "hit" games. So they figured, if it worked on the PC, why not on console? As we realized through the years, some games are just meant to be played on PC. Today, games are typicallyreleased on bo th platforms quite often from the start...Rap on the other-hand, continues to butcher Rock songs rather than actually think of original beats and ideas.

New rap songs tends to be cool for a couple weeks, and then die. And when they die, they do not fade away gracefully, they crash and burn. you might as well bury it in a lead box, cover it with cement, and build a skyscraper on top of it. How many times have you seen someone on the road bumpin "the Fat Boys" or "Fresh Prince." It's not cool to play old rap, and it's not cool to play old console games....I've actually seen people look online, and make fun of people if they were playing an older game. In fact, if you want to play an older console game online...good like finding people on the servers. Whereas on the PC, like rock music, old is perfectly fine. Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Neil Young, all are just as popular now as they were when they were new. And you will still find people playing games like Doom, UT, Starcraft, and D2 online....And the PC attracts an older, more mature crowd, so they won't make fun of you if you choose to play the older titles.

If you have any comments to say...well, thats what forums are for.

H0RSE

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

Yeah, well, console gamers get more chicks than PC gamers. It's true--Google it.Sooshy

QFT

PS3=chick magnet

360=too loud!

lol

console gamers = gang bangers
pc gamers = head bangers

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

mingo123

Console gamers FTL

This is kind of a weird little rant, but some of it I agree with. I didn't like bioshock, prefer system shock 2, I hate the new Rainbow 6 Vegas games, they instantly came to mind reading your odd post. Sadly, consoles are were the money is.

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

mingo123

console gamers = gang bangers
pc gamers = head bangers

mingo123

That sounded dirty to me......

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

console gamers = gang bangers
pc gamers = head bangers

Neontope

That sounded dirty to me......

stupid threads deserve stupid responses

[QUOTE="Neontope"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

console gamers = gang bangers
pc gamers = head bangers

mingo123

That sounded dirty to me......

stupid threads deserve stupid responses

good point

Yes. Consoles games are exactly like rap.

It gets hated on because elitist think they know everything when they know absolutely nothing.

But since we're discussing music, can you explain to me what makes rock real music and rap not?

PS: I don't listen to rap.

I prefer orchestral music.Willy105

if u truly enjoy orchestrial music, you might want to try listening to these bands:

Bond - a group of 5 women who all play string instruments and mix it with electronica

Rasputina - a 3 piece cellist band. They have a gothic-pop feel to their music.

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

mingo123

Best response to a thread EVA! :lol:

Metal Gear Solid 4, The Elder Scrolls IV, Super Mario Galaxy, Final Fantasy games, etc. say hi.dewmandew7

Yes. Consoles games are exactly like rap.

It gets hated on because elitist think they know everything when they know absolutely nothing.

But since we're discussing music, can you explain to me what makes rock real music and rap not?

PS: I don't listen to rap.

PRKiNG45

Rock has actual melodies and harmonies... oh and actual SINGING! Rap is only rhythm, and sometimes they mess that up.

According to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, the definition of music is: "an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color."

Not sure what they mean by "color", but Rock has more of those than Rap does. :P

I don't agree with the TC's analogy anyway.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]I prefer orchestral music.H0RSE

if u truly enjoy orchestrial music, you might want to try listening to these bands:

Bond - a group of 5 women who all play string instruments and mix it with electronica

Rasputina - a 3 piece cellist band. They have a gothic-pop feel to their music.

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

mingo123

beautiful articulation... PC gamers 1 Console gamers 0.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

H0RSE

beautiful articulation... PC gamers 1 Console gamers 0.

This was a lame thread. Couldn't you have just saved me all that reading by just saying "I hate consoles"?

[QUOTE="H0RSE"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

killerfist

beautiful articulation... PC gamers 1 Console gamers 0.

We also get Wii Sports, which gets us MORE chicks. 8)

PC gamers 1, console gamers 15

[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="H0RSE"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

dewmandew7

beautiful articulation... PC gamers 1 Console gamers 0.

We also get Wii Sports, which gets us MORE chicks. 8)

PC gamers 1, console gamers 5

This was a lame thread. Couldn't you have just saved me all that reading by just saying "I hate consoles"?

Vaasman

i dont hate them...i just hate every thing surrounding them. Maybe if you replaced all the players with older, mature players it wouldn't ne so bad.

[QUOTE="H0RSE"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

killerfist

beautiful articulation... PC gamers 1 Console gamers 0.

..I'll take actual women over hoochies any day. I take away your 10 points and distribute them amongst the PC community.

[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="H0RSE"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

oh shut yo mouf, pcs are like rock music, hermits are headbangers who bang their heads on keyboard

H0RSE

beautiful articulation... PC gamers 1 Console gamers 0.

..I'll take actual women over hoochies any day. I take away your 10 points and distribute them amongst the PC community.

So PC Gamers are communists too? I really don't want to be a PC Gamer now. :?

[QUOTE="PRKiNG45"]

Yes. Consoles games are exactly like rap.

It gets hated on because elitist think they know everything when they know absolutely nothing.

But since we're discussing music, can you explain to me what makes rock real music and rap not?

PS: I don't listen to rap.

dewmandew7

Rock has actual melodies and harmonies... oh and actual SINGING! Rap is only rhythm, and sometimes they mess that up.

According to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, the definition of music is: "an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color."

Not sure what they mean by "color", but Rock has more of those than Rap does. :P

I don't agree with the TC's analogy anyway.

Rap is like poetry.. It's people speaking from their heart about their current living situation, Stories, and or world events. If you speak about rap (as a whole..) being about "flash" than you know nothing of the art. And the fact that you define Fresh Prince as "good" old school rap already sums up your knowlege of the genre. KRS 1 is old school, Leaders of the New is old school, Tribe called Quest is Old school, De La Soul is old school, LL Cool J is old school.. And you speak about current rap.. Have you listened to Lupe Fiasco? Common? Do you even know who they are?

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

This was a lame thread. Couldn't you have just saved me all that reading by just saying "I hate consoles"?

H0RSE

i dont hate them...i just hate every thing surrounding them. Maybe if you replaced all the players with older, mature players it wouldn't ne so bad.

New rap songs tends to be cool for a couple weeks, and then die. And when they die, they do not fade away gracefully, they crash and burn. you might as well bury it in a lead box, cover it with cement, and build a skyscraper on top of it.H0rse

[QUOTE="PRKiNG45"]

Yes. Consoles games are exactly like rap.

It gets hated on because elitist think they know everything when they know absolutely nothing.

But since we're discussing music, can you explain to me what makes rock real music and rap not?

PS: I don't listen to rap.

dewmandew7

Rock has actual melodies and harmonies... oh and actual SINGING! Rap is only rhythm, and sometimes they mess that up.

According to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, the definition of music is: "an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color."

Not sure what they mean by "color", but Rock has more of those than Rap does. :P

I don't agree with the TC's analogy anyway.

Hm, well Lupe Fiasco fits that description IMO. So does old school hip-hop so i'm good.

I do agree that rappers are uncreative though, but oh well.

Yeah, well, console gamers get more chicks than PC gamers. It's true--Google it.Sooshy

That's plainly stupid and ignorant.

Rap is like poetry.. It's people speaking from their heart about their current living situation, Stories, and or world events. OhSnapitz

umm...isn't that pretty much all music.

If you speak about rap (as a whole..) being about "flash" than you know nothing of the art. And the fact that you define Fresh Prince as "good" old school rap already sums up your knowlege of the genre. OhSnapitz

It is about flash. The Mansions, the women, the cars, the 24" no excuse me... 26" rims. It's all about flash. They even talk about it their "songs." Perhaps at one time it was an "art" but now it is nothing more than a get rich quick scheme for record companies. And you saying it's an "art".....what does that make all the other genres of music? and I also never said Fresh Prince was good oldschool...i just said it was oldschool. Even if I mentioned any of the artists you dubbed as "good" oldschool, do ever hear people listening to them, or playing them on the radio? Maybe a couple times occasionally, and they aren't even that old. Compared to artists like The Beatles or Led Zeppelin or The Who who are all over the radio. They were around when your "good" oldschool artists weren't even a wet dream yet....and they are 10 times more popular. They have to be somewhat popular since hip hop artists continue to cover and sample them.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]I prefer orchestral music.H0RSE

if u truly enjoy orchestrial music, you might want to try listening to these bands:

Bond - a group of 5 women who all play string instruments and mix it with electronica

Rasputina - a 3 piece cellist band. They have a gothic-pop feel to their music.

Really?

But I bet they can't beat John Williams or Danny Elfmann.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Rap is like poetry.. It's people speaking from their heart about their current living situation, Stories, and or world events. H0RSE

umm...isn't that pretty much all music.

If you speak about rap (as a whole..) being about "flash" than you know nothing of the art. And the fact that you define Fresh Prince as "good" old school rap already sums up your knowlege of the genre. OhSnapitz

It is about flash. The Mansions, the women, the cars, the 24" no excuse me... 26" rims. It's all about flash. They even talk about it their "songs." Perhaps at one time it was an "art" but now it is nothing more than a get rich quick scheme for record companies. And you saying it's an "art".....what does that make all the other genres of music? and I also never said Fresh Prince was good oldschool...i just said it was oldschool. Even if I mentioned any of the artists you dubbed as "good" oldschool, do ever hear people listening to them, or playing them on the radio? Maybe a couple times occasionally, and they aren't even that old. Compared to artists like The Beatles or Led Zeppelin or The Who who are all over the radio. They were around when your "good" oldschool artists weren't even a wet dream yet....and they are 10 times more popular. They have to be somewhat popular since hip hop artists continue to cover and sample them.

I'm curious as to who these artists are you're referring to...

[QUOTE="H0RSE"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"]I prefer orchestral music.Willy105

if u truly enjoy orchestrial music, you might want to try listening to these bands:

Bond - a group of 5 women who all play string instruments and mix it with electronica

Rasputina - a 3 piece cellist band. They have a gothic-pop feel to their music.

Really?

But I bet they can't beat John Williams or Danny Elfmann.

those r two of my favorite movie music guys. I like Alan Silvestri a lot also.

[QUOTE="PRKiNG45"]

Yes. Consoles games are exactly like rap.

It gets hated on because elitist think they know everything when they know absolutely nothing.

But since we're discussing music, can you explain to me what makes rock real music and rap not?

PS: I don't listen to rap.

dewmandew7

Rock has actual melodies and harmonies... oh and actual SINGING! Rap is only rhythm, and sometimes they mess that up.

According to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, the definition of music is: "an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color."

Not sure what they mean by "color", but Rock has more of those than Rap does. :P

I don't agree with the TC's analogy anyway.

I think color means adding a variety to a song. Not just chords, a bass riff, same drum beat, verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bride/chorus/(optional ending).

Like coming up with time signature changes throughout the song, adding solos and different chord progressions and crescendos and breakdowns and making the song interesting to listen to, and not bland and repetive throughout the entire thing.

I think that means adding lyrics with figuritive language that can cause someone to think about the song, and research more about what the artist or narrator is speaking about. Not "yadda yadda sometin' sometin'....BOOTS WITH THA FUR!"

Also, horrible analogy TC.

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="H0RSE"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"]I prefer orchestral music.H0RSE

if u truly enjoy orchestrial music, you might want to try listening to these bands:

Bond - a group of 5 women who all play string instruments and mix it with electronica

Rasputina - a 3 piece cellist band. They have a gothic-pop feel to their music.

Really?

But I bet they can't beat John Williams or Danny Elfmann.

those r two of my favorite movie music guys. I like Alan Silvestri a lot also.

Alan did wonders with Back to the Future and Lilo & Stitch.

[QUOTE="H0RSE"][QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="H0RSE"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"]I prefer orchestral music.Willy105

if u truly enjoy orchestrial music, you might want to try listening to these bands:

Bond - a group of 5 women who all play string instruments and mix it with electronica

Rasputina - a 3 piece cellist band. They have a gothic-pop feel to their music.

Really?

But I bet they can't beat John Williams or Danny Elfmann.

those r two of my favorite movie music guys. I like Alan Silvestri a lot also.

Alan did wonders with Back to the Future and Lilo & Stitch.

lol i like the music he did in Predator. It's one of my favorite movies...but Back to the Future is on eof the greatest trilogies of all time....good music too :)

is like poetry.. It's people speaking from their heart about their current living situation, Stories, and or world events. If you speak about rap (as a whole..) being about "flash" than you know nothing of the art. And the fact that you define Fresh Prince as "good" old school rap already sums up your knowlege of the genre. KRS 1 is old school, Leaders of the New is old school, Tribe called Quest is Old school, De La Soul is old school, LL Cool J is old school.. And you speak about current rap.. Have you listened to Lupe Fiasco? Common? Do you even know who they are? OhSnapitzRap

Music is poetry poetry put to sound, imo. Or, atleast it should be. That doesn't necessarily mean rhyming through the whole song. IMO forcing a song to rhym and limiting yourself to certain words takes away the meaning and value of a song.

I perfer more crazed song structures and writes who sing or even speak or shout in free verse (i.e. mewithoutYou, Circle Takes the Square) compared to those that rhym and it gets repetitive.

It probably sounds like I'm a hater, but I actually do enjoy more of the better old school rap, but I perfer more of Hip-Hop styling than anything.

IMO, computers are for pr0n and consoles are for gaming and listening to the kid on the other end of the headset screaming and cussing his guts out, haha.

Yeah, well, console gamers get more chicks than PC gamers. It's true--Google it.Sooshy

lmao

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So your "big hit", probably the biggest selling game in console game history....is a PC game at birth.

H0RSE

This quote proves you don't have a single clue of what you're talking about.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitzRap"] is like poetry.. It's people speaking from their heart about their current living situation, Stories, and or world events. If you speak about rap (as a whole..) being about "flash" than you know nothing of the art. And the fact that you define Fresh Prince as "good" old school rap already sums up your knowlege of the genre. KRS 1 is old school, Leaders of the New is old school, Tribe called Quest is Old school, De La Soul is old school, LL Cool J is old school.. And you speak about current rap.. Have you listened to Lupe Fiasco? Common? Do you even know who they are? dylanagibson

Music is poetry poetry put to sound, imo. Or, atleast it should be. That doesn't necessarily mean rhyming through the whole song. IMO forcing a song to rhym and limiting yourself to certain words takes away the meaning and value of a song.

I perfer more crazed song structures and writes who sing or even speak or shout in free verse (i.e. mewithoutYou, Circle Takes the Square) compared to those that rhym and it gets repetitive.

It probably sounds like I'm a hater, but I actually do enjoy more of the better old school rap, but I perfer more of Hip-Hop styling than anything.

IMO, computers are for pr0n and consoles are for gaming and listening to the kid on the other end of the headset screaming and cussing his guts out, haha.

I completely disagree with your definition of music. Or would you say that this is not music? I'd say that music is simply a structured collection of sounds. It doesn't need to have a meaning nor does it need to be beautiful. I do think that it has to influence your mind though (directly through the sounds, and not the meaning of lyrics.

Btw, I'd take Hip Hop and quite a lot of Techno over Rock, but Jazz and Soul as well. What does that say about me?