Console games are like rap...

[QUOTE="ice144"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Rap is great guys soulja boy and Ja rule are the top MC's.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I laughed at first because i thought you were serious. Then I laughed harder when I realized you were being sarcastic. You ARE being sarcastic right?

YA TRICK YA!!!!!!!!!

Rap is great guys soulja boy and Ja rule are the top MC's.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

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Console games are like rap...First off, the fan base. Rap attracts a younger crowd...consoles attract a younger crowd.

H0RSE

I didn't know the younger crowd was into night clubs, college parties, ect. Hell how is this young crowd supposed to get in when its 21 and up due to alcohol?

[QUOTE="MrPostman4Chi"]

Are you kidding?All rock is are a bunch of guys screaming,i mean you cant even understand what they are saying they just scream all damn day.

I mean the rap music now is pretty weak but rock is better than rap lol?Thats just crazy.

H0RSE

...wow..have u ever heard of Classic Rock? I'm sure all they are doing is screaming. How about 80's rock?..yep, definitley more screaming...so much so, that rap artists always sample there stuff.

This is hilarious. The hypocricy is amazing. Its funny how you can stereotype rap music but when someone stereo types Rock you defend it. Yet when people defend rap you dismiss it.

This is the stupidest thread ever. Most rap sucks, but the majority of rock sucks as well. Also, I listen to all types of music including old hip hop, and Rakim is the greatest man in music in the last century.iLiveBy2words

On the surface, all popular music ha no depth. Rap to me, has zero depth. It is a big time elitest thing to say that, but I feel the same way. All it does, to me is influence really stupid social behaviors.New-Gamer

Don't video games do the same exact thing?

This proves what I've been thinking all along: the internet community is either full of A) Wannabe cool teenagers who think listening to Metallica is hard, or B) Otakus who are ruthless fans of their own useless MIDI compositions. Souljah Boy does not constitute the entire rap game. Blu & Haze, Panacea, Nas, Scarface bring some meaning into hip hop. Panacea has a song called "Pops said", dedicated to fathers. That **** is deep. When's the last time grindcore did something actually productive in their genre? "Cold was my soul, untold was the pain" -- yeah, I know you guys totally can totally relate to 'Nymphetamine' with all the experience of being rejected by your first crush :roll:FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="New-Gamer"]On the surface, all popular music ha no depth. Rap to me, has zero depth. It is a big time elitest thing to say that, but I feel the same way. All it does, to me is influence really stupid social behaviors.Blackbond

Don't video games do the same exact thing?

Wait.....a poster besides me listens to Blu and Panacea? :obc1391

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="New-Gamer"]On the surface, all popular music ha no depth. Rap to me, has zero depth. It is a big time elitest thing to say that, but I feel the same way. All it does, to me is influence really stupid social behaviors.FrozenLiquid

Don't video games do the same exact thing?

Why stop there Frozenliquid. Lets add more senseless stereotype to it lol. Guys that like rap can dress. I mean you gotta stay looking fresh with clean shoes new clothes ect. Guys that like Rock? Man they look like they haven't gotten a cut or taken a shower in weeks not to mention wearing the same clothes days on end.

I mean its not that hard to make ignorant statements lol.

Are you kidding?All rock is are a bunch of guys screaming,i mean you cant even understand what they are saying they just scream all damn day.

I mean the rap music now is pretty weak but rock is better than rap lol?Thats just crazy.

MrPostman4Chi

:lol:

you're serious? Oh man you couldn't be more wrong.

[QUOTE="MrPostman4Chi"]

Are you kidding?All rock is are a bunch of guys screaming,i mean you cant even understand what they are saying they just scream all damn day.

I mean the rap music now is pretty weak but rock is better than rap lol?Thats just crazy.

Juggernaut140

:lol:

you're serious? Oh man you couldn't be more wrong.

Yo man I'm watching Metalacolyspse :lol:

They aren't a bunch of rappers.

But sersiously the show is F'N funny.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Rap is like poetry.. It's people speaking from their heart about their current living situation, Stories, and or world events. H0RSE

umm...isn't that pretty much all music.

If you speak about rap (as a whole..) being about "flash" than you know nothing of the art. And the fact that you define Fresh Prince as "good" old school rap already sums up your knowlege of the genre. OhSnapitz

It is about flash. The Mansions, the women, the cars, the 24" no excuse me... 26" rims. It's all about flash. They even talk about it their "songs." Perhaps at one time it was an "art" but now it is nothing more than a get rich quick scheme for record companies. And you saying it's an "art".....what does that make all the other genres of music? and I also never said Fresh Prince was good oldschool...i just said it was oldschool. Even if I mentioned any of the artists you dubbed as "good" oldschool, do ever hear people listening to them, or playing them on the radio? Maybe a couple times occasionally, and they aren't even that old. Compared to artists like The Beatles or Led Zeppelin or The Who who are all over the radio. They were around when your "good" oldschool artists weren't even a wet dream yet....and they are 10 times more popular. They have to be somewhat popular since hip hop artists continue to cover and sample them.

sorry to get side tracked on this whole rap vs rock bull****, but do urself a favor and re read this intelligent responce to ur pointless rant

Rap is like poetry.. It's people speaking from their heart about their current living situation, Stories, and or world events. If you speak about rap (as a whole..) being about "flash" than you know nothing of the art. And the fact that you define Fresh Prince as "good" old school rap already sums up your knowlege of the genre. KRS 1 is old school, Leaders of the New is old school, Tribe called Quest is Old school, De La Soul is old school, LL Cool J is old school.. And you speak about current rap.. Have you listened to Lupe Fiasco? Common? Do you even know who they are?

just the meer fact that u only took a fraction of his responce shows that (like he said) have no clue what ur talking about when it comes to rap music. all u do is nit pick off of the sterotype, the perfect ignorant american, applaud u.

now lets get back on topic, games. u stated, "its not cool to play old console games." oh. my. god. was that stupid. tell me, did u even bother to think whaen u typed that? have u ever heard of the VC? and come on, ur a hermit. dont tell me u havent heard of emulaters. i can go on and on about how badly ur argument fails, but ill save my time and energy, think of u as a fake boy, and move on.

[QUOTE="MrPostman4Chi"]

Are you kidding?All rock is are a bunch of guys screaming,i mean you cant even understand what they are saying they just scream all damn day.

I mean the rap music now is pretty weak but rock is better than rap lol?Thats just crazy.

Juggernaut140

:lol:

you're serious? Oh man you couldn't be more wrong.

Well if I look at it that way than console games suck.smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Well if I look at it that way than console games suck.arikkot

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="MrPostman4Chi"]

Are you kidding?All rock is are a bunch of guys screaming,i mean you cant even understand what they are saying they just scream all damn day.

I mean the rap music now is pretty weak but rock is better than rap lol?Thats just crazy.

Blackbond

:lol:

you're serious? Oh man you couldn't be more wrong.

Yo man I'm watching Metalacolyspse :lol:

They aren't a bunch of rappers.

But sersiously the show is F'N funny.

Murderface FTW! :lol:

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="MrPostman4Chi"]

Are you kidding?All rock is are a bunch of guys screaming,i mean you cant even understand what they are saying they just scream all damn day.

I mean the rap music now is pretty weak but rock is better than rap lol?Thats just crazy.

FrozenLiquid

:lol:

you're serious? Oh man you couldn't be more wrong.

I know what a lot of metalheads say about rap and I think it's stupid. I know that a lot of rap isn't about hoes and rims and jacuzzi's.

I know what a lot of metalheads say about rap and I think it's stupid. I know that a lot of rap isn't about hoes and rims and jacuzzi's.

Juggernaut140

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

I know what a lot of metalheads say about rap and I think it's stupid. I know that a lot of rap isn't about hoes and rims and jacuzzi's.

FrozenLiquid

Yeah I noticed that too, that there are more metal heads on the internet.

Also this is off topic but do the people at your school think metal is emo? I've heard of multiple people calling my friend emo for wearing a Metallica shirt 0_o

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

I know what a lot of metalheads say about rap and I think it's stupid. I know that a lot of rap isn't about hoes and rims and jacuzzi's.

FrozenLiquid

Most people that like Rap don't really tend to go out of their way to put down other forms of music. The same cannot be said for the inverse though.

So many people hate on rap like it makes them some sort of superior human or something. Its disgusting.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

I know what a lot of metalheads say about rap and I think it's stupid. I know that a lot of rap isn't about hoes and rims and jacuzzi's.

Blackbond

Most people that like Rap don't really tend to go out of their way to put down other forms of music. The same cannot be said for the inverse though.

So many people hate on rap like it makes them some sort of superior human or something. Its disgusting.

I'll go so far as to say that I am not the biggest rap fan, but the whole it takes not talent to write is pretty narrowminded. All the common misconceptions about rap can be applied to rock ... Led Zeppelin were not the best song writers, nothing but a bunch of drug addicts writing about hippy hallucinations, extramarital sex, partying, and the like. I still love em for being an awesome band.No flash in rock? that's all a guitar solo is really, a wanker going off like he is god's gift to the world. I still like them. I guess my point is that before you insult something, make sure you yourself don't look foolish...

Well I personally just don't like it, I don't go out of my way to shove it in people's faces or anything though.smokeydabear076

Yeah well thats the difference between disliking something and being a hater Smokey 8)

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Well I personally just don't like it, I don't go out of my way to shove it in people's faces or anything though.Blackbond

Yeah well thats the difference between disliking something and being a hater Smokey 8)

Yeah I noticed that too, that there are more metal heads on the internet.

Also this is off topic but do the people at your school think metal is emo? I've heard of multiple people calling my friend emo for wearing a Metallica shirt 0_o

Juggernaut140

Did someone say rap?

Did someone say rap?

Blackbond

You cant compare music to games its just stupid. ps: I hate rap

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Well I personally just don't like it, I don't go out of my way to shove it in people's faces or anything though.smokeydabear076

Yeah well thats the difference between disliking something and being a hater Smokey 8)

Classical >>>>>> all

8)

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Well I personally just don't like it, I don't go out of my way to shove it in people's faces or anything though.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Yeah well thats the difference between disliking something and being a hater Smokey 8)

Classical >>>>>> all

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There various types of rap and rock, and sometimes even a combined nature of both elements.People generalize each music genre to something specific, which is not true.

[QUOTE="dewmandew7"][QUOTE="PRKiNG45"]

Yes. Consoles games are exactly like rap.

It gets hated on because elitist think they know everything when they know absolutely nothing.

But since we're discussing music, can you explain to me what makes rock real music and rap not?

PS: I don't listen to rap.

OhSnapitz

Rock has actual melodies and harmonies... oh and actual SINGING! Rap is only rhythm, and sometimes they mess that up.

According to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, the definition of music is: "an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color."

Not sure what they mean by "color", but Rock has more of those than Rap does. :P

I don't agree with the TC's analogy anyway.

Rap is like poetry.. It's people speaking from their heart about their current living situation, Stories, and or world events. If you speak about rap (as a whole..) being about "flash" than you know nothing of the art. And the fact that you define Fresh Prince as "good" old school rap already sums up your knowlege of the genre. KRS 1 is old school, Leaders of the New is old school, Tribe called Quest is Old school, De La Soul is old school, LL Cool J is old school.. And you speak about current rap.. Have you listened to Lupe Fiasco? Common? Do you even know who they are?

De la soul is awesome. good reply.

[QUOTE="dewmandew7"][QUOTE="PRKiNG45"]

Yes. Consoles games are exactly like rap.

It gets hated on because elitist think they know everything when they know absolutely nothing.

But since we're discussing music, can you explain to me what makes rock real music and rap not?

PS: I don't listen to rap.

dylanagibson

Rock has actual melodies and harmonies... oh and actual SINGING! Rap is only rhythm, and sometimes they mess that up.

According to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, the definition of music is: "an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color."

Not sure what they mean by "color", but Rock has more of those than Rap does. :P

I don't agree with the TC's analogy anyway.

I think color means adding a variety to a song. Not just chords, a bass riff, same drum beat, verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bride/chorus/(optional ending).

Like coming up with time signature changes throughout the song, adding solos and different chord progressions and crescendos and breakdowns and making the song interesting to listen to, and not bland and repetive throughout the entire thing.

I think that means adding lyrics with figuritive language that can cause someone to think about the song, and research more about what the artist or narrator is speaking about. Not "yadda yadda sometin' sometin'....BOOTS WITH THA FUR!"

Also, horrible analogy TC.

to my music appreciation class, tone color is simply the difference in sound between voices (instruments). an intrument's tone color is its unique sound it produces. its what makes a tuba a tuba and a piano a piano. kinda simple really.