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#151 skrat_01
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1. It's still inovative, because the other game DIDN'T HAVE CHARGE UP

2. Yes it is, but recharge and lasers.

3. Carbine.

SilentNight_

Charge up what? Pistol? Tribes again, sniper rifle and pistol.

Recharge weapons? Tribes again - laser weapons.

Carbine? What a semi automatic scoped rifle. Wow talk about desparate, any FPS with a semi automatic scoped weapon falls under its category, even real world varients as in the original Rainbow Six.

Hell there was games earlier than tribes that did these things, it just so happens i know the game very well.

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#152 Brainkiller05
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Halo has such a good record on consoles cause that's the best they've got, they have nothing to compare it to so that's why it's so popular. Whereas a PC gamer has seen it all before, only better... hence hermits laughing at consolites thinking Halo is the best thing to grace the planet.
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#153 skrat_01
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South Park Game made a gun that could make people dance, ZOMG THE INNOVATIONS.

Creating new guns is not innovative.

PC360Wii

Unless the gun changes the game design, or the design is modified around the weapon in such a way it hasent been done before.

For instance the Grav Gun or Portal Gun.

Then why do people call "The gravity gun" innovative?SilentNight_
Because they areinnovative, rather than just a traditional gun. They changed the games game design, and the grav gun in particular completely changed the way you interact with the enviroment in the game world, and the games design was modified around it.
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#154 SilentNight_
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Halo has such a good record on consoles cause that's the best they've got, they have nothing to compare it to so that's why it's so popular. Whereas a PC gamer has seen it all before, only better... hence hermits laughing at consolites thinking Halo is the best thing to grace the planet.Brainkiller05

Are you kidding? CONTROLS ON PC, AND YES I HAVE PLAYED A FPS ON PC. The controls for melee, throwing grenades, changing weapons, reloading etc..... IS TERRIBLE

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#155 skrat_01
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Halo has such a good record on consoles cause that's the best they've got, they have nothing to compare it to so that's why it's so popular. Whereas a PC gamer has seen it all before, only better... hence hermits laughing at consolites thinking Halo is the best thing to grace the planet.Brainkiller05
Well l gen it was like that, this gen it is very different.

Consoles now have the Orange Box, COD4, Bioshock even Gears of War ect. which are shooters of a very high calibre, and the Halo series had lots of competition, rather than an easy lead. Which is why the game is so much less popular this generation, there are so many titles that it competes with.

Really Halo nowdays is played by a dedicated fanbase, while the masses seem to prefer COD4, and activley debate over what FPSs are better, rather than last generations - 'Halo is the best shooter'.

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#156 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Halo has such a good record on consoles cause that's the best they've got, they have nothing to compare it to so that's why it's so popular. Whereas a PC gamer has seen it all before, only better... hence hermits laughing at consolites thinking Halo is the best thing to grace the planet.SilentNight_

Are you kidding? PC IS AWFUL FOR PC*, AND YES I HAVE PLAYED A FPS ON PC. The controls for melee, throwing grenades, changing weapons, reloading etc..... IS TERRIBLE.

Thats good for you, thankfully your opinion is far from fact.

If you rather shooters on consoles, goodo, its not stopping the PC from being the vastly superiour platform for the genre.

*???...

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#157 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Halo has such a good record on consoles cause that's the best they've got, they have nothing to compare it to so that's why it's so popular. Whereas a PC gamer has seen it all before, only better... hence hermits laughing at consolites thinking Halo is the best thing to grace the planet.SilentNight_

PC IS AWFUL FOR PC,

Ok.

Hang on, what?

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#158 SilentNight_
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EDITED. And no PC is not superior.
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#159 skrat_01
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EDITED. And no PC is not superior.SilentNight_
In what way? well if no one has proven it - in whatever manner, so I strongly doubt you can.
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#160 Kratos_OMEGA
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You haven't seen the GTX 280 then. Cuz that baby smokes the crap out of the X360's and PS3's video cards.BladesOfAthena

That are 2-3 years old....cmon the Video card arugment is BS.

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#161 SilentNight_
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In controls.
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#162 skrat_01
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In controls.SilentNight_
You can connect any prephiral to your PC.

360 controller, DualShock 3, Wiimote, Steering Wheels, Joysticks, Flight Yokes, 3rd party gamepads, oldschool gamepads via adaptors, and soon to be released - mind control controllers (very serious).

And of course you get a huge amount of keyboard and mice.

So yeah in controls PC is far superiour than any console that has existed... as any console that has existed has controllers that work on PC, be it usb, blue tooth, or with an adaptor.

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#163 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]In controls.skrat_01

You can connect any prephiral to your PC.

360 controller, DualShock 3, Wiimote, Steering Wheels, Joysticks, Flight Yokes, 3rd party gamepads, oldschool gamepads via adaptors, and soon to be released - mind control controllers (very serious).

And of course you get a huge amount of keyboard and mice.

So yeah in controls PC is far superiour than any console that has existed... as any console that has existed has controllers that work on PC, be it usb, blue tooth, or with an adaptor.

Your arguing with someone comparable to a goldfish, you'd be just as better buying a pack of cards and building a little castle on your computer desk, at least you will have accomplished something with them.

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#164 AnnoyedDragon
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That are 2-3 years old....cmon the Video card arugment is BS.

Kratos_OMEGA

So when comparing platforms, one is not allowed to mention technological advantages?

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#165 SilentNight_
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[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]In controls.skrat_01

You can connect any prephiral to your PC.

360 controller, DualShock 3, Wiimote, Steering Wheels, Joysticks, Flight Yokes, 3rd party gamepads, oldschool gamepads via adaptors, and soon to be released - mind control controllers (very serious).

And of course you get a huge amount of keyboard and mice.

So yeah in controls PC is far superiour than any console that has existed... as any console that has existed has controllers that work on PC, be it usb, blue tooth, or with an adaptor.

but i thought k/m was so good??

PC sucks.

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#166 SoaSE_General
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It doesn't matter what PC hardware you have to achieve the best graphics, controls, etc. because the best pc games (90's blizzard and valve games) dont have those superior traits and instead run easily on best buy prebuilds.
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#167 Perception1
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Is it just me or are the consoles beating the crap out of the PC this gen? I've always thought PCs were at the fore front of new technical achievements in gaming. But this time around I've got to say that consoles are leading the way. Games look and play better on consoles this generation. And most of the good games that have come out in the last two years have been on consoles, and some of them have even been exclusive to consoles (GTA4/MGS4/NG2/). And the future is looking better for consoles also. As all the good PC games that use to be exclusives are now multi-plat. Only saving grave for PC this gen seems to be Blizzard. They're the only top AAA PC developer who hasn't decided to to go multi-platform.

ShimmerMan

I do think console gaming right now is better than PC gaming, but that whole statement about looking and playing better on consoles is incorrect.

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#168 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"]

This gen? Game consoles have been beating the crap out of PC gaming for over 15yrs now. Games console and their games generation almost 15 billion a year, while PC gaming has just passed the 1 billion a year mark. Even if you went strictly with software sales, game consoles are still leading my many billions. PC gaming has grown over the last 3 years though. Mostly due to MMO games If it weren't for MMORPG/FPS, Strategy and Sim type games, PC gaming would be just about dead by now.

AnnoyedDragon

Lots of gloating, zero evidence. Saying the PC market is only worth one billion pretty much set yourself up to look like a idiot, it is worth more than twice that much in the US alone, stacking all three consoles against one platform also reeks of bias.

Honestly why are console users always like this?

I will provide the links so I can just shut you up.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007. The console gaming market made 17.9 billion in 2007 in the U.S. alone. Worldwide it was 41.9 billion.

So who's the idiot now? :lol:

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#169 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]In controls.SilentNight_

You can connect any prephiral to your PC.

360 controller, DualShock 3, Wiimote, Steering Wheels, Joysticks, Flight Yokes, 3rd party gamepads, oldschool gamepads via adaptors, and soon to be released - mind control controllers (very serious).

And of course you get a huge amount of keyboard and mice.

So yeah in controls PC is far superiour than any console that has existed... as any console that has existed has controllers that work on PC, be it usb, blue tooth, or with an adaptor.

but i thought k/m was so good??

PC sucks.

....yes it is great for many game genres.

Your arguing with someone comparable to a goldfish, you'd be just as better buying a pack of cards and building a little castle on your computer desk, at least you will have accomplished something with them.

Kez1984
true, true.
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#170 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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Sigh. Posts like these make me wonder why I even bother coming here anymore.Shadow-Eagle

Then leave. :|

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#171 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="blackace"]

This gen? Game consoles have been beating the crap out of PC gaming for over 15yrs now. Games console and their games generation almost 15 billion a year, while PC gaming has just passed the 1 billion a year mark. Even if you went strictly with software sales, game consoles are still leading my many billions. PC gaming has grown over the last 3 years though. Mostly due to MMO games If it weren't for MMORPG/FPS, Strategy and Sim type games, PC gaming would be just about dead by now.

blackace

Lots of gloating, zero evidence. Saying the PC market is only worth one billion pretty much set yourself up to look like a idiot, it is worth more than twice that much in the US alone, stacking all three consoles against one platform also reeks of bias.

Honestly why are console users always like this?

I will provide the links so I can just shut you up.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007. The console gaming market made 17.9 billion in 2007 in the U.S. alone. Worldwide it was 41.9 billion.

So who's the idiot now? :lol:

You are using wikipedia as a source to backup your claims?

"
He offered up stats on the US and worldwide PC games market, saying the former (not including casual games) in 2007 generated $2.76bn revenue, a year-on-year rise of 12 per cent, accounted for 30 per cent of gaming revenues in the territory, and was set to make $9.6bn - a rise of 16 per cent - in 2008. For the global games market the figures were $8.3bn in 2007, up 14 per cent, with 2008 revenues set to be $9.6bn, up for 16 per cent.

There are 263 million onlne PC gamers worldwide, added Stude, saying it was proof that the PC gaming market's death has been greatly exaggerated.

"

http://www.developmag.com/news/29331/The-PC-market-is-not-dying-says-newly-formed-PC-Gaming-Alliance

I really wouldent call him an idiot.

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#172 SilentNight_
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[QUOTE="SilentNight_"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]In controls.skrat_01

You can connect any prephiral to your PC.

360 controller, DualShock 3, Wiimote, Steering Wheels, Joysticks, Flight Yokes, 3rd party gamepads, oldschool gamepads via adaptors, and soon to be released - mind control controllers (very serious).

And of course you get a huge amount of keyboard and mice.

So yeah in controls PC is far superiour than any console that has existed... as any console that has existed has controllers that work on PC, be it usb, blue tooth, or with an adaptor.

but i thought k/m was so good??

PC sucks.

....yes it is great for many game genres.

Your arguing with someone comparable to a goldfish, you'd be just as better buying a pack of cards and building a little castle on your computer desk, at least you will have accomplished something with them.

Kez1984

true, true.

Like?? RTS is the worst genre of games their is.

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#173 AnnoyedDragon
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I will provide the links so I can just shut you up.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007. The console gaming market made 17.9 billion in 2007 in the U.S. alone. Worldwide it was 41.9 billion.

So who's the idiot now? :lol:

blackace

You are for relying on a public wiki than official DFC figures, simply because the wiki is in your favour.

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007.

blackace

DFC Intelligence states 2007 US PC game revenues were $2.76 billion, with a worldwide game revenue of $8.3 billion.

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#174 blackace
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]

Kind of negates the whole "PCs can do more" advantage, though.

AnnoyedDragon

Excuse me? Did you just honestly question the "PCs can do more" argument because you have difficulty writing code on a low precision screen sat on the other side of the room? Seriously?

Anyway, hooking a PC to a TV wasn't the subject in the first place, nor is it the only reason why I prefer consoles (though it is a big one). Using a mouse on a couch is a pain in the ass, the consoles' interfaces are a lot simpler than Windows' (which makes sense, because it's fixed-function and has to do a lot less), I prefer the style of games on consoles (no Rock Band == no sale), and lastly, consoles are where my friends game (and I really prefer to play with my friends; this isn't a big deal for everyone, but it's a deal-breaker for me).

"But those are all opinions!" Yep. And they're what makes console gaming superior FOR ME. Superior is an opinion, and PC gamers can't just claim their versions are superior out of hand, because not everyone values the same things they do.

PCs don't have some sort of undeniable advantage such that anyone who doesn't value it above all else is an idiot. It's just another platform.

lowe0

Generally when you take the exact same game that is on consoles and crank up the res/frame rate, that is the supperior version. You can even choose between mouse & keyboard or game pad depending on your preference.

How is that not the superior version? It has everything the console version has at a higher quality.

Hey if you prefer consoles that is your business, but you are criticising proven PC advantages.

If it's so superios, why do less people play the PC versions? :roll: The game may look and even play better, but in terms of convience, comfort and less fustration, more people will play the same version on the game console, then on a PC. This is a FACT. If you don't believe me, I can pick at least 10 games that are on both PC and game console, yet more people are playing the console version. In terms of game play, it's really up to the gamers to decide which is superior. You say it's superior on the PC. I say it's superior on the game console. Who is really right? Neither is right or wrong, as it's just a preference. The only real advantage PC's have is displaying the game in a higher resolution and maybe a slightly faster FPS depending on the game. That's about it.

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#175 Vandalvideo
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If it's so superios, why do less people play the PC versions? :roll: The game may look and even play better, but in terms of convience, comfort and less fustration, more people will play the same version on the game console, then on a PC. This is a FACT. If you don't believe me, I can pick at least 10 games that are on both PC and game console, yet more people are playing the console version. In terms of game play, it's really up to the gamers to decide which is superior. You say it's superior on the PC. I say it's superior on the game console. Who is really right? Neither is right or wrong, as it's just a preference. The only real advantage PC's have is displaying the game in a higher resolution and maybe a slightly faster FPS depending on the game. That's about it. blackace
Because people are flooded with these misconceptions about the PC, or are working off outdated knowledge of the new ease of use, covenience, and comfort that the PC can now provide. You can get the same kind of experience on a PC as you can on consoles.
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Cool guys play on consoles :D
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#177 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="blackace"]

This gen? Game consoles have been beating the crap out of PC gaming for over 15yrs now. Games console and their games generation almost 15 billion a year, while PC gaming has just passed the 1 billion a year mark. Even if you went strictly with software sales, game consoles are still leading my many billions. PC gaming has grown over the last 3 years though. Mostly due to MMO games If it weren't for MMORPG/FPS, Strategy and Sim type games, PC gaming would be just about dead by now.

skrat_01

Lots of gloating, zero evidence. Saying the PC market is only worth one billion pretty much set yourself up to look like a idiot, it is worth more than twice that much in the US alone, stacking all three consoles against one platform also reeks of bias.

Honestly why are console users always like this?

I will provide the links so I can just shut you up.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007. The console gaming market made 17.9 billion in 2007 in the U.S. alone. Worldwide it was 41.9 billion.

So who's the idiot now? :lol:

You are using wikipedia as a source to backup your claims?

"
He offered up stats on the US and worldwide PC games market, saying the former (not including casual games) in 2007 generated $2.76bn revenue, a year-on-year rise of 12 per cent, accounted for 30 per cent of gaming revenues in the territory, and was set to make $9.6bn - a rise of 16 per cent - in 2008. For the global games market the figures were $8.3bn in 2007, up 14 per cent, with 2008 revenues set to be $9.6bn, up for 16 per cent.

There are 263 million onlne PC gamers worldwide, added Stude, saying it was proof that the PC gaming market's death has been greatly exaggerated.

"

http://www.developmag.com/news/29331/The-PC-market-is-not-dying-says-newly-formed-PC-Gaming-Alliance

I really wouldent call him an idiot.

This same information was on Gamespot as well. Whether it's on wikia or Gamespot, the figures are still the same. U.S. 1 billion and worldwide 3.3 billion. Those figures did not include online subscriptions. Online subsciption were 1 billion in the U.S. and I believe 7 billion worldwide. That still doesn't compare to $17 billion for console gaming in the U.S. and $41 billion worldwide. Console game is support to grow to $57 billion in 2008. Huge diffence from PC gaming. So yes, console gaming has been OWNING PC GAMING for years. I proved my point. Both of you need to do research because post your stats.

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#178 skrat_01
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Like?? RTS is the worst genre of games their is.

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Thats nice, why dont you go play, somewhere else now.
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people waste their money play on concoles
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#180 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

You are using wikipedia as a source to backup your claims?

"
He offered up stats on the US and worldwide PC games market, saying the former (not including casual games) in 2007 generated $2.76bn revenue, a year-on-year rise of 12 per cent, accounted for 30 per cent of gaming revenues in the territory, and was set to make $9.6bn - a rise of 16 per cent - in 2008. For the global games market the figures were $8.3bn in 2007, up 14 per cent, with 2008 revenues set to be $9.6bn, up for 16 per cent.

There are 263 million onlne PC gamers worldwide, added Stude, saying it was proof that the PC gaming market's death has been greatly exaggerated.

"

http://www.developmag.com/news/29331/The-PC-market-is-not-dying-says-newly-formed-PC-Gaming-Alliance

I really wouldent call him an idiot.

blackace

This same information was on Gamespot as well. Whether it's on wikia or Gamespot, the figures are still the same. U.S. 1 billion and worldwide 3.3 billion. Those figures did not include online subscriptions. Online subsciption were 1 billion in the U.S. and I believe 7 billion worldwide. That still doesn't compare to $17 billion for console gaming in the U.S. and $41 billion worldwide. Console game is support to grow to $57 billion in 2008. Huge diffence from PC gaming. So yes, console gaming has been OWNING PC GAMING for years. I proved my point. Both of you need to do research because post your stats.

Link please.

Im pretty sure the original data figures did not include online sales data, and were at a much earlier date than the link above.

Making up data and presenting it as facts then saying "you need to do research" is not only arrogant, but incredibly naive and is nice evidence of your own ignorance.

Use credible sources to backup your claims.

Which makes your information and argument completely redundant.

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#181 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"]

I will provide the links so I can just shut you up.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007. The console gaming market made 17.9 billion in 2007 in the U.S. alone. Worldwide it was 41.9 billion.

So who's the idiot now? :lol:

AnnoyedDragon

You are for relying on a public wiki than official DFC figures, simply because the wiki is in your favour.

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007.

blackace

DFC Intelligence states 2007 US PC game revenues were $2.76 billion, with a worldwide game revenue of $8.3 billion.

Dude.. Console gaming is $17 billion in the U.S. alone in 2007. So even if you added those worldwide figures together console gaming is STILL OWNING PC gaming. That was the point of the post. That $8.3 billion is probably including subscription costs as well.

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#182 AnnoyedDragon
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If it's so superios, why do less people play the PC versions? :roll: The game may look and even play better, but in terms of convience, comfort and less fustration, more people will play the same version on the game console, then on a PC. This is a FACT. If you don't believe me, I can pick at least 10 games that are on both PC and game console, yet more people are playing the console version. In terms of game play, it's really up to the gamers to decide which is superior. You say it's superior on the PC. I say it's superior on the game console. Who is really right? Neither is right or wrong, as it's just a preference. The only real advantage PC's have is displaying the game in a higher resolution and maybe a slightly faster FPS depending on the game. That's about it.

blackace

So when you were proven wrong you change the subject and go after a old post? Honestly this is getting sad now.

I'm not even going to humour you with a argument, you know preference in couch or desk (both of which are changable for both console and PC) has nothing to do with dictating which version of a game is the definitive version.

Stop making baseless claims and changing the subject when it doesn't work out for you; it is a petty attempt to run through as many arguments as you can to find one in your favour.

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#183 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="blackace"]

I will provide the links so I can just shut you up.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007. The console gaming market made 17.9 billion in 2007 in the U.S. alone. Worldwide it was 41.9 billion.

So who's the idiot now? :lol:

blackace

You are for relying on a public wiki than official DFC figures, simply because the wiki is in your favour.

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007.

blackace

DFC Intelligence states 2007 US PC game revenues were $2.76 billion, with a worldwide game revenue of $8.3 billion.

Dude.. Console gaming is $17 billion in the U.S. alone in 2007. So even if you added those worldwide figures together console gaming is STILL OWNING PC gaming. That was the point of the post. That $8.3 billion is probably including subscription costs as well.

Isn't that including several different formats as a whole against one? 8,3 billion for one format is bad?

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#184 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"]If it's so superios, why do less people play the PC versions? :roll: The game may look and even play better, but in terms of convience, comfort and less fustration, more people will play the same version on the game console, then on a PC. This is a FACT. If you don't believe me, I can pick at least 10 games that are on both PC and game console, yet more people are playing the console version. In terms of game play, it's really up to the gamers to decide which is superior. You say it's superior on the PC. I say it's superior on the game console. Who is really right? Neither is right or wrong, as it's just a preference. The only real advantage PC's have is displaying the game in a higher resolution and maybe a slightly faster FPS depending on the game. That's about it. Vandalvideo
Because people are flooded with these misconceptions about the PC, or are working off outdated knowledge of the new ease of use, covenience, and comfort that the PC can now provide. You can get the same kind of experience on a PC as you can on consoles.

No, I don't think so. LOL!! There's no misconceptions about gaming on a PC. People are well aware for the frustration of loading and configuring PC games to get them to play the way they are suppose to. If PC gaming was so convient and easy to get into, a LOT more people would be playing on their PC's. Game consoles are much more convient and easier to use when it comes to gaming. Everything is pretty much plug and play in a matter of minutes. Yes, there are definitely more PC in people's home then game consoles, but most of these people aren't use those PC's to play games.

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#185 Vandalvideo
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No, I don't think so. LOL!! There's no misconceptions about gaming on a PC. People are well aware for the frustration of loading and configuring PC games to get them to play the way they are suppose to. If PC gaming was so convient and easy to get into, a LOT more people would be playing on their PC's. Game consoles are much more convient and easier to use when it comes to gaming. Everything is pretty much plug and play in a matter of minutes. Yes, there are definitely more PC in people's home then game consoles, but most of these people aren't use those PC's to play games. blackace
Oh please, I constantly hear people complaining about not being able to use gamepads, not playing on the couch, not using a television, being too hard to install a simple game, configurations, etc. Most everything on the PC nowadays is completely automated or optional. You can install a game, grabs some cheetoes, and get going. Its a negligble minute or two. Besides, its not like installations are alien to consoles any more either. Console gaming is becomming harder to use while PC gaming is becomming easier to use. Its almost reached some kind of equillivrium at this point.
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#186 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"]

If it's so superios, why do less people play the PC versions? :roll: The game may look and even play better, but in terms of convience, comfort and less fustration, more people will play the same version on the game console, then on a PC. This is a FACT. If you don't believe me, I can pick at least 10 games that are on both PC and game console, yet more people are playing the console version. In terms of game play, it's really up to the gamers to decide which is superior. You say it's superior on the PC. I say it's superior on the game console. Who is really right? Neither is right or wrong, as it's just a preference. The only real advantage PC's have is displaying the game in a higher resolution and maybe a slightly faster FPS depending on the game. That's about it.

AnnoyedDragon

So when you were proven wrong you change the subject and go after a old post? Honestly this is getting sad now.

I'm not even going to humour you with a argument, you know preference in couch or desk (both of which are changable for both console and PC) has nothing to do with dictating which version of a game is the definitive version.

Stop making baseless claims and changing the subject when it doesn't work out for you; it is a petty attempt to run through as many arguments as you can to find one in your favour.

I was never proven wrong and this was a completely different post. I proved my point a long time ago. Console gaming has owned PC gaming is sales for years. That's not even an opinion, but a fact. Go and do some research on the subject and see for yourself. Check the sales in the U.S. and worldwide for PC and console gaming over the last 10 years.

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#187 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="blackace"]

I will provide the links so I can just shut you up.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007. The console gaming market made 17.9 billion in 2007 in the U.S. alone. Worldwide it was 41.9 billion.

So who's the idiot now? :lol:

blackace

You are for relying on a public wiki than official DFC figures, simply because the wiki is in your favour.

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007.

blackace

DFC Intelligence states 2007 US PC game revenues were $2.76 billion, with a worldwide game revenue of $8.3 billion.

Dude.. Console gaming is $17 billion in the U.S. alone in 2007. So even if you added those worldwide figures together console gaming is STILL OWNING PC gaming. That was the point of the post. That $8.3 billion is probably including subscription costs as well.

Actually, that'll backfire on you. In most of the world (including Europe), the PC is undeniably king. Don't believe me? Why didn't Europe get affected by the 1983 videogame crash? Because most of their games were on computers which weren't affected by the crash. Also note that just about all the Euro developers of note (ie. CD Projekt, Crytek) are PC developers.
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#188 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"]No, I don't think so. LOL!! There's no misconceptions about gaming on a PC. People are well aware for the frustration of loading and configuring PC games to get them to play the way they are suppose to. If PC gaming was so convient and easy to get into, a LOT more people would be playing on their PC's. Game consoles are much more convient and easier to use when it comes to gaming. Everything is pretty much plug and play in a matter of minutes. Yes, there are definitely more PC in people's home then game consoles, but most of these people aren't use those PC's to play games. Vandalvideo
Oh please, I constantly hear people complaining about not being able to use gamepads, not playing on the couch, not using a television, being too hard to install a simple game, configurations, etc. Most everything on the PC nowadays is completely automated or optional. You can install a game, grabs some cheetoes, and get going. Its a negligble minute or two. Besides, its not like installations are alien to consoles any more either. Console gaming is becomming harder to use while PC gaming is becomming easier to use. Its almost reached some kind of equillivrium at this point.

That's your opinion. Now convince the millions of gamers who are playing console games instead of PC games. Good luck.

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#189 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="blackace"]

I will provide the links so I can just shut you up.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007. The console gaming market made 17.9 billion in 2007 in the U.S. alone. Worldwide it was 41.9 billion.

So who's the idiot now? :lol:

HuusAsking

You are for relying on a public wiki than official DFC figures, simply because the wiki is in your favour.

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007.

blackace

DFC Intelligence states 2007 US PC game revenues were $2.76 billion, with a worldwide game revenue of $8.3 billion.

Dude.. Console gaming is $17 billion in the U.S. alone in 2007. So even if you added those worldwide figures together console gaming is STILL OWNING PC gaming. That was the point of the post. That $8.3 billion is probably including subscription costs as well.

Actually, that'll backfire on you. In most of the world (including Europe), the PC is undeniably king. Don't believe me? Why didn't Europe get affected by the 1983 videogame crash? Because most of their games were on computers which weren't affected by the crash. Also note that just about all the Euro developers of note (ie. CD Projekt, Crytek) are PC developers.

Good luck.

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#190 Vandalvideo
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That's your opinion. Now convince the millions of gamers who are playing console games instead of PC games. Good luck.blackace
No thats fact. There really wasn't anything I said in there that was opinion.
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#191 AnnoyedDragon
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Dude.. Console gaming is $17 billion in the U.S. alone in 2007. So even if you added those worldwide figures together console gaming is STILL OWNING PC gaming. That was the point of the post. That $8.3 billion is probably including subscription costs as well.

blackace

First off you are using that wiki again, secondly you are adding all three platforms together and comparing them to one.

DFC Intelligence has shown PC gaming is 30% of US game revenue; despite there being various gaming systems including the three consoles. 30%, nearly a third, despite there being four major platforms (PS3/360/Wii/PC) PC is making more money than its fair share of overall US game revenue.

Honestly anyone else getting sick of this person spouting verbal dirare, most of which is opinionated?

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#192 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="blackace"]No, I don't think so. LOL!! There's no misconceptions about gaming on a PC. People are well aware for the frustration of loading and configuring PC games to get them to play the way they are suppose to. If PC gaming was so convient and easy to get into, a LOT more people would be playing on their PC's. Game consoles are much more convient and easier to use when it comes to gaming. Everything is pretty much plug and play in a matter of minutes. Yes, there are definitely more PC in people's home then game consoles, but most of these people aren't use those PC's to play games. blackace

Oh please, I constantly hear people complaining about not being able to use gamepads, not playing on the couch, not using a television, being too hard to install a simple game, configurations, etc. Most everything on the PC nowadays is completely automated or optional. You can install a game, grabs some cheetoes, and get going. Its a negligble minute or two. Besides, its not like installations are alien to consoles any more either. Console gaming is becomming harder to use while PC gaming is becomming easier to use. Its almost reached some kind of equillivrium at this point.

That's your opinion. Now convince the millions of gamers who are playing console games instead of PC games. Good luck.

Same can be said of convincing PC gamers to play console games. You know, there are even professional gaming leagues out there...and most of them are based on PC games.
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#193 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="blackace"]If it's so superios, why do less people play the PC versions? :roll: The game may look and even play better, but in terms of convience, comfort and less fustration, more people will play the same version on the game console, then on a PC. This is a FACT. If you don't believe me, I can pick at least 10 games that are on both PC and game console, yet more people are playing the console version. In terms of game play, it's really up to the gamers to decide which is superior. You say it's superior on the PC. I say it's superior on the game console. Who is really right? Neither is right or wrong, as it's just a preference. The only real advantage PC's have is displaying the game in a higher resolution and maybe a slightly faster FPS depending on the game. That's about it. blackace

Because people are flooded with these misconceptions about the PC, or are working off outdated knowledge of the new ease of use, covenience, and comfort that the PC can now provide. You can get the same kind of experience on a PC as you can on consoles.

No, I don't think so. LOL!! There's no misconceptions about gaming on a PC. People are well aware for the frustration of loading and configuring PC games to get them to play the way they are suppose to. If PC gaming was so convient and easy to get into, a LOT more people would be playing on their PC's. Game consoles are much more convient and easier to use when it comes to gaming. Everything is pretty much plug and play in a matter of minutes. Yes, there are definitely more PC in people's home then game consoles, but most of these people aren't use those PC's to play games.

well most people dont know how to upgrade there PC to play games..not only that but PC gameing is also a hobby, with upgrading, maintaing and such its much different than your average console player who just pops in and plays.

its much more convient for some people..but once my PC is up and running i can do anything as simple as popping in a disk..PC gaming is not fustrating if you know what your doing..which most people dont.

and that is correct that most people dont use pc for gameing but alot do while there not hardcore gamers they still own a pc and still play some form of a game..weather its Peggle or Counterstrike somone is playing.

just because your a console player dosent mean that every pc for everybody is hard and not easy to get into..for you it may be..but for me im used to patching, installing,,etc..its just second nature to me now.

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#194 blackdreamhunk
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I find it funny that sony and micro is like 6 bill and still loseing more money. I also find it funny that there in fighting that goes on between game devs and mircosoft and sony. I wonder how meny games have been scraped because of the infighting going on lol. Lets talk the hostle take overs of game devs ideas lol here is another fact that sony and micros soft always have to look up pc gaming.......concole's gaming death is hand mark my words

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#195 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"]That's your opinion. Now convince the millions of gamers who are playing console games instead of PC games. Good luck.Vandalvideo
No thats fact. There really wasn't anything I said in there that was opinion.

"Console gaming is becomming harder to use while PC gaming is becomming easier to use. Its almost reached some kind of equillivrium at this point."

That's an opinion. I can probably pull 20 people off the street that would say the complete opposite.

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#196 PC360Wii
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="blackace"]No, I don't think so. LOL!! There's no misconceptions about gaming on a PC. People are well aware for the frustration of loading and configuring PC games to get them to play the way they are suppose to. If PC gaming was so convient and easy to get into, a LOT more people would be playing on their PC's. Game consoles are much more convient and easier to use when it comes to gaming. Everything is pretty much plug and play in a matter of minutes. Yes, there are definitely more PC in people's home then game consoles, but most of these people aren't use those PC's to play games. blackace

Oh please, I constantly hear people complaining about not being able to use gamepads, not playing on the couch, not using a television, being too hard to install a simple game, configurations, etc. Most everything on the PC nowadays is completely automated or optional. You can install a game, grabs some cheetoes, and get going. Its a negligble minute or two. Besides, its not like installations are alien to consoles any more either. Console gaming is becomming harder to use while PC gaming is becomming easier to use. Its almost reached some kind of equillivrium at this point.

That's your opinion. Now convince the millions of gamers who are playing console games instead of PC games. Good luck.

And you do the same in vice versa, good luck.

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#197 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="blackace"]That's your opinion. Now convince the millions of gamers who are playing console games instead of PC games. Good luck.blackace

No thats fact. There really wasn't anything I said in there that was opinion.

"Console gaming is becomming harder to use while PC gaming is becomming easier to use. Its almost reached some kind of equillivrium at this point."

That's an opinion. I can probably pull 20 people off the street that would say the complete opposite.

No thats completely fact. Console gaming is starting to adopt constant patches, mandatory installs, and tons of different skus. It isn't as simple as it used to be. At the same time, PC gaming is becoming practically completely automated in patches, updates, configuration, and installation.
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All the same, I will point out one aspect where console gaming has a clear edge: offline (perhaps I should call it social)multiplayer. By this, I mean say four guys crashing together at a bud's house for a round of Madden and in-your-face name-calling. For some, nothing beats it, and before you say you can plug the PC into it...one, most PC games don't do multiple controllers too cleanly, and second, what if the only PC in the house is all tied up in the office...or doesn't have a TV Out (mine doesn't, and it's a 9800GTX--a lot of dual-DVI cards don't sport a TV Out)?
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#199 Vandalvideo
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All the same, I will point out one aspect where console gaming has a clear edge: offline (perhaps I should call it social)multiplayer. By this, I mean say four guys crashing together at a bud's house for a round of Madden and in-your-face name-calling. For some, nothing beats it, and before you say you can plug the PC into it...one, most PC games don't do multiple controllers too cleanly, and second, what if the only PC in the house is all tied up in the office...or doesn't have a TV Out (mine doesn't, and it's a 9800GTX--a lot of dual-DVI cards don't sport a TV Out)?HuusAsking
Ever heard of LANs? Not only do PCs support multiplayer splitscreen (support just isn't as widespread), but you can also do LANs, which are just as social.
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All the same, I will point out one aspect where console gaming has a clear edge: offline (perhaps I should call it social)multiplayer. By this, I mean say four guys crashing together at a bud's house for a round of Madden and in-your-face name-calling. For some, nothing beats it, and before you say you can plug the PC into it...one, most PC games don't do multiple controllers too cleanly, and second, what if the only PC in the house is all tied up in the office...or doesn't have a TV Out (mine doesn't, and it's a 9800GTX--a lot of dual-DVI cards don't sport a TV Out)?HuusAsking
more and more people are buying laptops you can't take a concole on plane can you?