Could Gamespot possibly give out 2 10s in 2 months?

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#1 DisPimpin
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I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

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I highly doubt any game will get a 10 on gamespot for a while. But hey, anything could happen.
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I think GTA4 will get a 9.5. I think MGS4 has a shot at a 10 but I also think it will get 9.5
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#5 Jaysonguy
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A 10 will never happen in this era of reviews

For a game to get a 10 here it would have to be blemish free in every single category, even games in the past can't say that.

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I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

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LOL for thinking GTA and MGS are AAAA worthy.

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#7 GodLovesDead
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MGS 4 may very well get a 10. I don't have a PS3 but I'm rooting for it.
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#8 DisPimpin
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A 10 will never happen in this era of reviews

For a game to get a 10 here it would have to be blemish free in every single category, even games in the past can't say that.

Jaysonguy
Soul Calibur was pretty much flawless for it's time.
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I can see that happening
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#10 shadow8585
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MGS4 will not get a 10 and the X360 version of GTA4 will score better than its lesser counterpart
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#11 DisPimpin
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MGS4 will not get a 10 and the X360 version of GTA4 will score better than its lesser counterpartshadow8585
What makes you think the 360 version will be superior? Didn't Rockstar say they were identical? DLC won't factor into reviews.
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I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

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LOL mgs will be lucky to get 9.0

10.0 lol..... want to put money on that?

I think NG2 has a better chance then MGS. GTA will be awesome and stands SOME chance.

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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

X_Evo

LOL for thinking GTA and MGS are AAAA worthy.

lol @ you thinking they're not.

Both of them have a good chance for it, i'd be happy if either or both got a 10.

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I don't think Gamespot will give any game a 10 in the next 12 years. NO game is perfect, or even without some room for improvement somwhere in any number of categories (graphics, art direction, story, music, voice acting, gameplay, control, etc...) to receive a 10 from the strictest review site.
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#15 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

A 10 will never happen in this era of reviews

For a game to get a 10 here it would have to be blemish free in every single category, even games in the past can't say that.

DisPimpin

Soul Calibur was pretty much flawless for it's time.

Pretty much flawless and flawless are different distinctions though

Gamespot's review criteria has evolved since they started until it's become what we see today. In order for Gamespot to keep to that standard they'd have to look at a game and not have one single pause for any part of the game.

That's why I think that you'll never see a 10 again and if you look back at the games that did get a 10 they're not completely free of problems. They may be small but they're still there.

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#16 giancarlo123x
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MGS4 cant score a 10 here because its not on 360. Plus GTA4 on PS3 will lose .5 points for no reason.
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#17 bobbetybob
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I don't see why not, except for the fact that Gamespot are notorious for it's harsh scores, they seem to be getting a bit looser now however, with the new scoring system. I mean a few websites and magazines give out 10's all the time because they only review in 1 incriments, (1,2,3...10) and now Gamespot only does .5's, it could happen.
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I'll go and say they won't... but then again I don't care if they do and wouldn't mind if they did, actually I'd like to see that, but doubt it will.
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#19 shadow8585
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[QUOTE="shadow8585"]MGS4 will not get a 10 and the X360 version of GTA4 will score better than its lesser counterpartDisPimpin
What makes you think the 360 version will be superior? Didn't Rockstar say they were identical? DLC won't factor into reviews.

Xbox 360 version was the lead dev kit. The ps3 version is not as bright or vibrant with the colors and the aliasing issues which plagued both consoles in previous test units (more so on the 360 version though) have been completely eliminated at this point, so the only difference is the ps3s lessened level of color and brightness. Considering the ps3 version has been consistantly behind the 360 version, it may have a few more glitches as well. It'll be a 9.6, 9.5 thing

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#20 heavenless_lu
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Seven years had passed since last 10 was given by GS,it was Tony Hawk`s Pro Skater3 on Oct 28, 2001

But from 1998 to 2001 there were four 10s games`s out,and the only four in GS`s history

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#21 giancarlo123x
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I don't think Gamespot will give any game a 10 in the next 12 years. NO game is perfect, or even without some room for improvement somwhere in any number of categories (graphics, art direction, story, music, voice acting, gameplay, control, etc...) to receive a 10 from the strictest review site.AdobeArtist

10 doesnt mean perfect anymore, it means prime.

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#22 PBSnipes
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Neither game has a chance. The GTA games tend to be pretty glitchy due to the sheer size of the game and MGS4's story will be too convoluted. Despite renaming 10 "prime" GS still demands perfection in order to give out a 10, and judging by their pedigree neither game will be perfect.
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#23 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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Depends on how much advertising they buy.
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#24 DisPimpin
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I don't think Gamespot will give any game a 10 in the next 12 years. NO game is perfect, or even without some room for improvement somwhere in any number of categories (graphics, art direction, story, music, voice acting, gameplay, control, etc...) to receive a 10 from the strictest review site.AdobeArtist
If No More Heroes, WarioWare, and Assassin's Creed can get AAA, I see no reason why GTA and MGS can't get AAAA.
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its possible, but then again so was brawl, galaxy, halo 3 and GeOW.

i'm not holding my breath for either game.

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How can anyone discuss the chances for a game having a 10 when none of the previous illiterations didn't get a 10 and they haven't even touched these ones? You can't say a game has a good chance for a 10 just because you are a fan of the series or a fanboy or something. This thread makes no sense...
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Its entirely possible and its mainly because a 10 is considered Perfection anymore on the gamespot rating scale, its now considered "Prime" and is described as being as good as is possible at the time of release without any meaningful way to have made it better.

Its possible. Likely? No.

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How can anyone discuss the chances for a game having a 10 when none of the previous illiterations didn't get a 10 and they haven't even touched these ones? rolo107

THAT doesnt make any sense, did Tony Hawk 1 get a 10? no...but Tony Hawk 3 did. Theres always a first for everything since when does a franchise need to be a 10 franchise to get a 10.

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[QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

L1qu1dSword

LOL for thinking GTA and MGS are AAAA worthy.

lol @ you thinking they're not.

Both of them have a good chance for it, i'd be happy if either or both got a 10.

your not too smart. you really think those graphics will be a perfect 10 by GS's reckoning? mgs4 will definitely lose points in that dept.

You should read what IGN and Gamepro said about the visuals
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[QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

L1qu1dSword

LOL for thinking GTA and MGS are AAAA worthy.

lol @ you thinking they're not.

Both of them have a good chance for it, i'd be happy if either or both got a 10.

your not too smart. you really think those graphics will be a perfect 10 by GS's reckoning? mgs4 will definitely lose points in that dept.

...? the only thing they give for graphics is that little button saying outstanding art design which is what they'll give mgs4 because it looks great, its not perfect (nothing is not uncharted or gran turismo or gears) but its great. They dont have that little graphics bar anymore that goes from 1-10.

Now you either have great graphics, or you dont.

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]I don't think Gamespot will give any game a 10 in the next 12 years. NO game is perfect, or even without some room for improvement somwhere in any number of categories (graphics, art direction, story, music, voice acting, gameplay, control, etc...) to receive a 10 from the strictest review site.giancarlo123x

10 doesnt mean perfect anymore, it means prime.

I know 10 doesn't mean perfect. Read my line about "... even without some room for improvement somewhere in any number of categories". And to be prime, a game should have no conceivable area of improvement, making it as good as it can be for it's time and the technology it's implementing.

The era of 10's, even by Gamespot's definition of prime, is over. Accept it.

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#36 DisPimpin
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How can anyone discuss the chances for a game having a 10 when none of the previous illiterations didn't get a 10 and they haven't even touched these ones? You can't say a game has a good chance for a 10 just because you are a fan of the series or a fanboy or something. This thread makes no sense...rolo107
The last 3 GTA games were all 9.6. How San Andreas has better gameplay, graphics, and depth than the other 2 but got the same score is beyond me, but anyone with a brain knows that San Andreas should've gotten a 10 if III and VC got a 9.6. The last 2 MGS games were AAA. These are 2 of the best dev studios in the world, and it's very reasonable to think they can deliver a product worthy of a 10. You're just a hater.
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#37 L1qu1dSword
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That would depend on the amount of advertising space the publishers rent on gamespots front page.

I agree that they take special interest money like that, however, they still need to make it reasonable so they have deniabillity. There would be no way to justify giving a game with graphics like mgs4 a 10.

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LiquidSword really hates PS3, doens't he?
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YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED EITHER OF THOSE GAMES
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#40 DisPimpin
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[QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

L1qu1dSword

LOL for thinking GTA and MGS are AAAA worthy.

lol @ you thinking they're not.

Both of them have a good chance for it, i'd be happy if either or both got a 10.

your not too smart. you really think those graphics will be a perfect 10 by GS's reckoning? mgs4 will definitely lose points in that dept.

WTF?!?!?!? MGS4 is the best looking console game to date.
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Spore is the only game in the foreseeable future that has any remote chance of being a 10.
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#42 DisPimpin
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Spore is the only game in the foreseeable future that has any remote chance of being a 10.MrGrimFandango
Snore is not even worthy of being mentioned in this thread. Go away.
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WTF?!?!?!? MGS4 is the best looking console game to date.

lets start posting gears and mgs4 pics side by side in this thread. mgs4 looks FAR inferior with textures lighting and just about everything. saying that about uncharted is one thing but what you put out there is completely laughable.

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]I don't think Gamespot will give any game a 10 in the next 12 years. NO game is perfect, or even without some room for improvement somwhere in any number of categories (graphics, art direction, story, music, voice acting, gameplay, control, etc...) to receive a 10 from the strictest review site.DisPimpin
If No More Heroes, WarioWare, and Assassin's Creed can get AAA, I see no reason why GTA and MGS can't get AAAA.

You're working by the theory that MGS4 and GTA4 are - by your opinion - better games than the aforementioned, therefore they must score higher. But here's the thing; Many games are AAA, and even tied at 9.5, because on the whole package, they are achievements of excellence. It has nothing to do with if a gamer likes Halo 3 better than Crysis, so you can't just say Halo 3 should have been a 10.

Your opinion of MGS4 and/or GTA4 won't catapult them into a category higher than AC, NMH, WW. They're ALL in the same class of top rated games, opinion of which is better not withstanding.

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WTF?!?!?!? MGS4 is the best looking console game to date.

lets start posting gears and mgs4 pics side by side in this thread. mgs4 looks FAR inferior with textures lighting and just about everything. saying that about uncharted is one thing but what you put out there is completely laughable.

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you should read what IGN and Gamepro said about MGS4 visuals
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WTF?!?!?!? MGS4 is the best looking console game to date.

lets start posting gears and mgs4 pics side by side in this thread. mgs4 looks FAR inferior with textures lighting and just about everything. saying that about uncharted is one thing but what you put out there is completely laughable.

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no
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10/10 DOES NOT mean Perfect. It means 'Prime' okay?

And on that note, yes, I think both GTA4 and MGS4 have a good shot at a 10.

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#48 L1qu1dSword
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[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

WTF?!?!?!? MGS4 is the best looking console game to date.

lets start posting gears and mgs4 pics side by side in this thread. mgs4 looks FAR inferior with textures lighting and just about everything. saying that about uncharted is one thing but what you put out there is completely laughable.

tader-salad

no

lets have some pictures then shall we. bear in mind the last time this happened even the cows were admiting gears looked better. anything else just makes you sound like an idiot its so obvious.

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Cows are going to be very disappointed when MGS4 doesn't get AAAA.
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[QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

WTF?!?!?!? MGS4 is the best looking console game to date.

lets start posting gears and mgs4 pics side by side in this thread. mgs4 looks FAR inferior with textures lighting and just about everything. saying that about uncharted is one thing but what you put out there is completely laughable.

L1qu1dSword

no

lets have some pictures then shall we. bear in mind the last time this happened even the cows were admiting gears looked better. anything else just makes you sound like an idiot its so obvious.

Indeed, I was there. lol it was funny how the Gears multiplayer screenshot looked better than the MGS4 SP screenshot :lol: