Could Gamespot possibly give out 2 10s in 2 months?

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#101 L1qu1dSword
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Gears One allready beat MGS 3 with 5.1 million sales. Thats without the benefit of an allready established fanbase.
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#102 Nike_Air
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I think it is possible , and I would love to see ...... I would love to see the meltdowns too. People just need to undersatnd that a 10.0 is not a perfect game and those games will have their faults , but at the same time they will be the cream of the crop in this industry and would deserve special recognition.

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#103 Pietrooper
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Gears One allready beat MGS 3 with 5.1 million sales. Thats without the benefit of an allready established fanbase.L1qu1dSword

Large fanbase doesn't mean high scores by the way, we're talking scores.

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#104 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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I think people really need to stop with the incessant whining over games getting a 10. You keep spewing out pseudo-philisophy on how "no game is ever perfect so no game should get a perfect score" and it is extremely weak. A perfect score has NOTHING to do with "perfection".

People to this day STILL whine about Tony Hawk 3, or Ocarina getting perfect 10s. "Wah...those games aren't perfect! Wah! They had flaws!" Well answer this....what skateboarding game to this day is better than TH3? None. What Zelda game, to this day, is better than OCarine was? None.

If those games are the pinnacle of the series, or even the genre, then they deserve the highest score.

I rest my case.

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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

Textures will be adressed, in ne of the recent articles from one of the people who completed the whole game, he said he had a chat with Kojima and he said they would make it better. I cba to get the article.

The game looks amazing, its probably not going to be THE best looking game so far this gen. But its going to be like top 5 for sure.

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I agree, the game does look amazing, not the best, but amazing. But I doubt that there is enough time and space to make the textures better.

Exactly it looks amazing, whats the problem then?

and its not like MGS4 has only graphics going for it, its got other great factors like: sound, story, chracters, non linear(multiple routes) gameplay definetly looks the best in the series, humour

Wouldn't know because I unfortunately never got to play any of the games. The only thing that I'm really arguing is that I think Gears looks more detailed and has better textures.

Gears is very linear, and nowhere as big as what MGS4 will be. Gears is a finished game and MGS4 isnt. Guess we will have to "just wait"

Your so right. How can it NOT be huge considering the momentum it will be riding from selling 3.5 million with an install base of 120 million.:roll:

MGS4 is getting about a TON of more hype than MGS3, its getting about what MGS2 had and that sold 7mill. Actually MGS4 is probably getting even more hype, due to the fact this is the first killer app for the PS3. im not saying it will sell 7mill plus, but I think due to the fact that its bundled aswell, MGS4 will sell about 5 mill maybe more.

And I just realised... why did you just bring that up :?

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#106 L1qu1dSword
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One last thing before I agree to disagree.

The fact that Gears is so linear and nowhere near as large as MGS4 allows it to be more likely for Gears to have better textures because there are less "things" like walls and such to make textures better on. If you understand what I mean

OMG I wish you were a game developer lol. Your solution to improving graphics is not better textures but more open space to look at so you dont notice the crappy textures. riiiight.

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#107 Pietrooper
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I think people really need to stop with the incessant whining over games getting a 10. You keep spewing out pseudo-philisophy on how "no game is ever perfect so no game should get a perfect score" and it is extremely weak. A perfect score has NOTHING to do with "perfection".

People to this day STILL whine about Tony Hawk 3, or Ocarina getting perfect 10s. "Wah...those games aren't perfect! Wah! They had flaws!" Well answer this....what skateboarding game to this day is better than TH3? None. What Zelda game, to this day, is better than OCarine was? None.

If those games are the pinnacle of the series, or even the genre, then they deserve the highest score.

I rest my case.

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SKATE is better than TH3, and I felt Windwaker curbstomped Ocarina of Time.

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#108 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

I think people really need to stop with the incessant whining over games getting a 10. You keep spewing out pseudo-philisophy on how "no game is ever perfect so no game should get a perfect score" and it is extremely weak. A perfect score has NOTHING to do with "perfection".

People to this day STILL whine about Tony Hawk 3, or Ocarina getting perfect 10s. "Wah...those games aren't perfect! Wah! They had flaws!" Well answer this....what skateboarding game to this day is better than TH3? None. What Zelda game, to this day, is better than OCarine was? None.

If those games are the pinnacle of the series, or even the genre, then they deserve the highest score.

I rest my case.

Pietrooper

SKATE is better than TH3, and I felt Windwaker curbstomped Ocarina of Time.

Well, considering Skate flopped compared to TH3 in terms of scores and sales, AND considering Windwaker almost single handedly killed the Zelda franchise for many people (myself included...and I liked WW), I would say your opinion here is irrelevant.

*edit* Plus a quick jump over to Gamerankings shows that the vast majority of reviewers disagree with you as TH3 and Ocarina scored higher on average than Skate and WW. Since we live in a democratic society, the majority rules.

Although, it also shows the completely subjective nature of review scores and yet another reason why people need to stop whining. Just because your opinion is different doesn't make yours more right and their more wrong. READ THE REVIEWS! Stop obessing constantly over a number as if it reflects the game better than the written opinion.

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#109 dru26
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I have a feeling GTA 4 has a chance to go down as one of the best games of all time, while I am just as excited about MGS 4, I'd be surprised if it cracked the top 50.

In order for MGS 4 to get a perfect score, the patroling AI has to be dead on perfect, and let's face it the guards have been pretty clueless in some of the past titles.

I'd predict both get 9.5 here. A higher score for GTA at IGN (9.7), 1up(A+) and Game Informer( 9.75)

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One last thing before I agree to disagree.

The fact that Gears is so linear and nowhere near as large as MGS4 allows it to be more likely for Gears to have better textures because there are less "things" like walls and such to make textures better on. If you understand what I mean

OMG I wish you were a game developer lol. Your solution to improving graphics is not better textures but more open space to look at so you dont notice the crappy textures. riiiight.

L1qu1dSword

Im pretty sure I never said that.

But seriously the game isnt finished yet

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#111 Sony_92
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I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

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LOL mgs will be lucky to get 9.0

10.0 lol..... want to put money on that?

I think NG2 has a better chance then MGS. GTA will be awesome and stands SOME chance.

WOW .. if NG2 gets a 9.0, MGS4 definitly deserves a 10. I would give MGS4 a 10 just for its Epic storyline.

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I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

DisPimpin

to be honest with you, the way the scoring system has been set, i don't think it is probable for any game to get a 10, Halo 3, Orange Box, Galaxy, Brawl and all these other major titles were potential 10's but no. I am 100% confident however that MGS4 and GTA4 will get 9.5

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#113 manny280
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[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

Sony_92

LOL mgs will be lucky to get 9.0

10.0 lol..... want to put money on that?

I think NG2 has a better chance then MGS. GTA will be awesome and stands SOME chance.

WOW .. if NG2 gets a 9.0, MGS4 definitly deserves a 10. I would give MGS4 a 10 just for its Epic storyline.

lol what a post you havent even played it

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#114 iamshivy
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i just don't see lamespot giving a game a perfect 10/10.. they will most likely both get a 9.5
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1.The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time N64 Nintendo 31 9.0 97.613% 2.Super Mario Galaxy WII Nintendo 68 8.9 97.274% 3.The Orange Box PC EA Games 31 9.6 96.306% 4.Metroid Prime GC Nintendo 91 8.8 96.264% 5.The Orange Box X360 EA Games 53 9.1 96.260% 6.Soul Calibur DC Namco 27 8.8 96.259% 7.Super Mario 64 N64 Nintendo 21 9.2 95.905% 8.Tekken 3 PS Namco 23 8.1 95.804% 9.Resident Evil 4 GC Capcom 104 9.2 95.783% 10.Resident Evil 4 PS2 Capcom 56 8.7 95.571% 11.Halo: Combat Evolved XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 87 8.8 95.515% 12.Half-Life 2 PC VU Games 92 8.9 95.489% 13.BioShock X360 2K Games 90 9.3 95.344% 14.BioShock PC 2K Games 44 8.3 95.193% 15.GoldenEye 007 N64 Nintendo 21 9.2 95.176% 16.Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas PS2 Rockstar Games 100 8.7 95.175% 17.Grand Theft Auto III PS2 Rockstar Games 72 8.7 94.907% 18.The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker GC Nintendo 99 8.9 94.811% 19.Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty PS2 Konami 72 8.6 94.806% 20.Gran Turismo PS SCEA 21 8.4 94.714%

I'd say they both have great chances at 10 here, Sons of Liberty is the 19th best critically acclaimed game on GR

And the best Grand Theft Auto is the 16th best critically acclaimed game on GR.

On a sidenote, only 2 out of 4 of Gamespot's reviews are actually up here. Depending on the reviewer, it might get great scores..or it might not.

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#116 SunLord592
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[QUOTE="rolo107"]How can anyone discuss the chances for a game having a 10 when none of the previous illiterations didn't get a 10 and they haven't even touched these ones? You can't say a game has a good chance for a 10 just because you are a fan of the series or a fanboy or something. This thread makes no sense...DisPimpin
The last 3 GTA games were all 9.6. How San Andreas has better gameplay, graphics, and depth than the other 2 but got the same score is beyond me, but anyone with a brain knows that San Andreas should've gotten a 10 if III and VC got a 9.6. The last 2 MGS games were AAA. These are 2 of the best dev studios in the world, and it's very reasonable to think they can deliver a product worthy of a 10. You're just a hater.

Just because a previous iteration of a game got a certain score doesn't mean the next would get a higher score if it even is better. The game needs to be better then other games out at the time in all departments, which is easily not possible. No game is perfect, and i cannot see GTA4 or MGS4 getting a 10, 9.5 is more likely. Also by the reviewers view on the game, everyone has there own opinion. Just because a game doesn't get a 10 doesn't mean its automatically crap or it was shafted.

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#117 iamshivy
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DisPimpin

to be honest with you, the way the scoring system has been set, i don't think it is probable for any game to get a 10, Halo 3, Orange Box, Galaxy, Brawl and all these other major titles were potential 10's but no. I am 100% confident however that MGS4 and GTA4 will get 9.5


thats pretty much what i think
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[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of the AAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

Sony_92

LOL mgs will be lucky to get 9.0

10.0 lol..... want to put money on that?

I think NG2 has a better chance then MGS. GTA will be awesome and stands SOME chance.

WOW .. if NG2 gets a 9.0, MGS4 definitly deserves a 10. I would give MGS4 a 10 just for its Epic storyline.

But you haven't even played the game. :)

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1.The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time N64 Nintendo 31 9.0 97.613% 2.Super Mario Galaxy WII Nintendo 68 8.9 97.274% 3.The Orange Box PC EA Games 31 9.6 96.306% 4.Metroid Prime GC Nintendo 91 8.8 96.264% 5.The Orange Box X360 EA Games 53 9.1 96.260% 6.Soul Calibur DC Namco 27 8.8 96.259% 7.Super Mario 64 N64 Nintendo 21 9.2 95.905% 8.Tekken 3 PS Namco 23 8.1 95.804% 9.Resident Evil 4 GC Capcom 104 9.2 95.783% 10.Resident Evil 4 PS2 Capcom 56 8.7 95.571% 11.Halo: Combat Evolved XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 87 8.8 95.515% 12.Half-Life 2 PC VU Games 92 8.9 95.489% 13.BioShock X360 2K Games 90 9.3 95.344% 14.BioShock PC 2K Games 44 8.3 95.193% 15.GoldenEye 007 N64 Nintendo 21 9.2 95.176% 16.Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas PS2 Rockstar Games 100 8.7 95.175% 17.Grand Theft Auto III PS2 Rockstar Games 72 8.7 94.907% 18.The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker GC Nintendo 99 8.9 94.811% 19.Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty PS2 Konami 72 8.6 94.806% 20.Gran Turismo PS SCEA 21 8.4 94.714%

I'd say they both have great chances at 10 here, Sons of Liberty is the 19th best critically acclaimed game on GR

And the best Grand Theft Auto is the 16th best critically acclaimed game on GR.

On a sidenote, only 2 out of 4 of Gamespot's reviews are actually up here. Depending on the reviewer, it might get great scores..or it might not.

Pietrooper

your point smg is the 2nd most critically acclaimed and didnt get a 10 heck orange box, Bioshock and halo are more critically acclaimed then MGS 2 and GTA and they didnt get a 10

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[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Gears One allready beat MGS 3 with 5.1 million sales. Thats without the benefit of an allready established fanbase.Pietrooper

Large fanbase doesn't mean high scores by the way, we're talking scores.

well we were until real mccoy ignorantly stated that mgs4 would be bigger then gears.

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[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]
1.The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time N64 Nintendo 31 9.0 97.613% 2.Super Mario Galaxy WII Nintendo 68 8.9 97.274% 3.The Orange Box PC EA Games 31 9.6 96.306% 4.Metroid Prime GC Nintendo 91 8.8 96.264% 5.The Orange Box X360 EA Games 53 9.1 96.260% 6.Soul Calibur DC Namco 27 8.8 96.259% 7.Super Mario 64 N64 Nintendo 21 9.2 95.905% 8.Tekken 3 PS Namco 23 8.1 95.804% 9.Resident Evil 4 GC Capcom 104 9.2 95.783% 10.Resident Evil 4 PS2 Capcom 56 8.7 95.571% 11.Halo: Combat Evolved XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 87 8.8 95.515% 12.Half-Life 2 PC VU Games 92 8.9 95.489% 13.BioShock X360 2K Games 90 9.3 95.344% 14.BioShock PC 2K Games 44 8.3 95.193% 15.GoldenEye 007 N64 Nintendo 21 9.2 95.176% 16.Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas PS2 Rockstar Games 100 8.7 95.175% 17.Grand Theft Auto III PS2 Rockstar Games 72 8.7 94.907% 18.The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker GC Nintendo 99 8.9 94.811% 19.Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty PS2 Konami 72 8.6 94.806% 20.Gran Turismo PS SCEA 21 8.4 94.714%

I'd say they both have great chances at 10 here, Sons of Liberty is the 19th best critically acclaimed game on GR

And the best Grand Theft Auto is the 16th best critically acclaimed game on GR.

On a sidenote, only 2 out of 4 of Gamespot's reviews are actually up here. Depending on the reviewer, it might get great scores..or it might not.

manny280

your point smg is the 2nd most critically acclaimed and didnt get a 10 heck orange box, Bioshock and halo are more critically acclaimed then MGS 2 and GTA and they didnt get a 10

I agree!

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#122 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Gears One allready beat MGS 3 with 5.1 million sales. Thats without the benefit of an allready established fanbase.L1qu1dSword

Large fanbase doesn't mean high scores by the way, we're talking scores.

well we were until real mccoy ignorantly stated that mgs4 would be bigger then gears.

Not in sales you fool, I meant in like the size IN the game, like huge environments.

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#123 goblaa
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I'm gonna call it right here, right now.

MGS4 - 8.5

GTA4 - 9.0

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#124 manny280
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[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Gears One allready beat MGS 3 with 5.1 million sales. Thats without the benefit of an allready established fanbase.therealmcc0y

Large fanbase doesn't mean high scores by the way, we're talking scores.

well we were until real mccoy ignorantly stated that mgs4 would be bigger then gears.

Not in sales you fool, I meant in like the size IN the game, like huge environments.

lol i know hes ignorant but you didnt have to call him a fool watch hes going to go crying to the mods now :lol:

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Has any MGS or GTA game gotten a 10 before? How many have gotten over 9.5? That should give you the likelihood of MGS4 and GTA4 getting 10s.
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mgs3 got a 8.7 lol

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SMG was the only thing possible for awhile.
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#128 Pietrooper
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mgs3 got a 8.7 lol

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MGS2 got 9.6 and is the 19 best game ever critically.

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#129 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Gears One allready beat MGS 3 with 5.1 million sales. Thats without the benefit of an allready established fanbase.manny280

Large fanbase doesn't mean high scores by the way, we're talking scores.

well we were until real mccoy ignorantly stated that mgs4 would be bigger then gears.

Not in sales you fool, I meant in like the size IN the game, like huge environments.

lol i know hes ignorant but you didnt have to call him a fool watch hes going to go crying to the mods now :lol:

Damn... Ill be banned for 1 more week, like I always am.........................

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#130 Eragon_11
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[QUOTE="Eragon_11"]

mgs3 got a 8.7 lol

Pietrooper

MGS2 got 9.6 and is the 19 best game ever critically.

who asked?
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I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of theAAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

DisPimpin

:| :lol: :roll:

Some MGS games have scored AA on GameSpot.

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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of theAAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

AvIdGaMeR444

:| :lol: :roll:

Why is Metal Gear Solid 4 any worse than grand theft auto 4?

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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of theAAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

Pietrooper

:| :lol: :roll:

Why is Metal Gear Solid 4 any worse than grand theft auto 4?

Well, GTA4 has gotten 9.6 in all of its 3d games.

Metal gear has fallen as low as 8.7

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#134 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of theAAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

AvIdGaMeR444

:| :lol: :roll:

Some MGS games have scored AA on GameSpot.

GTA II got a 6.9

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#135 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of theAAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

Pietrooper

:| :lol: :roll:

Why is Metal Gear Solid 4 any worse than grand theft auto 4?

I think hyping any game AAAA is nuts...but hyping GTA IV AAAA is much more reasonable imo than hyping MGS 4 AAAA. MGS 1 scored 8.5 and MGS2 scored 8.7 on GameSpot. Why would anyone hype MGS4 AAAA when the franchise has scored AA on GameSpot before? GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas all scored 9.6. So, yeah...hyping GTA IV AAAA makes more sense, even though it is still crazy to do so.

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#136 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of theAAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

therealmcc0y

:| :lol: :roll:

Some MGS games have scored AA on GameSpot.

GTA II got a 6.9

Yeah...true. Plus, Gertsmann isn't here to review GTA4, and he loves the series. But, come on now...hyping MGS4 AAAA doesn't make any sense either.

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#137 sambalimbo
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MGS4 will not get a 10 and the X360 version of GTA4 will score better than its lesser counterpartshadow8585

i didnt expect nothing else from a guy who has the gears logo as avatar -.-

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#138 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of theAAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

AvIdGaMeR444

:| :lol: :roll:

Some MGS games have scored AA on GameSpot.

GTA II got a 6.9

Yeah...true. Plus, Gertsmann isn't here to review GTA4, and he loves the series. But, come on now...hyping MGS4 AAAA doesn't make any sense either.

I know it doesnt make sense, but from what weve seen and heard, MGS4 and GTA have as much chance as each other to get AAAA... not that I think they will get AAAA

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#139 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"]

I know it's a longshot, but I really think that both GTA IV and MGS4 are both worthy of theAAAA hype, and may very well live up to it. Gamespot hasn't given out a 10 in quite some time, but these 2 games are looking as close to flawless as it gets. Given the track record of Rockstar North and Kojima Productions for delivering top notch gameplay with stories to match, I think it's very possible. What say you? :|

Pietrooper

:| :lol: :roll:

Why is Metal Gear Solid 4 any worse than grand theft auto 4?

-MGS doesn't have universal appeal. It is an acquired taste

-MGS has an uneven cutscene/gameplay ratio

-MGS has counter-intuitive controls

-MGS can feel a bit sluggish at times

-GTA is more gameplay-focused

-GTA's pace is far more immediate

-GTA has a far bigger sense of scale

-GTA allows the player more freedom

-In MGS, the player is in the passenger seat, while in GTA, the player is in the driver seat

-The 3D GTA's have gotten a better critical response overall

-GTA's seems to evolve, while the MGS games actually seem get worse in some respects (although I thought 3 was the best). MGS2 was the worst in the series. Every inherent flaw of the series was amplified in that game.

Like it or not, the odds are more in GTA's favor.

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#140 Ibacai
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I don't think either will get 10 and it's possible for neither of them to even get 9.
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#141 Frexie
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It really depends on how much money SCEA and RockStar are willing to put under the table for GameSpot. They have the resources to force it, so its likely and possible.
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WTF?!?!?!? MGS4 is the best looking console game to date.

lets start posting gears and mgs4 pics side by side in this thread. mgs4 looks FAR inferior with textures lighting and just about everything. saying that about uncharted is one thing but what you put out there is completely laughable.

L1qu1dSword

no

lets have some pictures then shall we. bear in mind the last time this happened even the cows were admiting gears looked better. anything else just makes you sound like an idiot its so obvious.

Your immaturity shows so much its not even funny. I consider it extremely funny how the 360 is "Teh superior", yet every lemming like you feels they have to defend the console with everything in their power, typing 1000 words per minute, posting 100 messages per hour, replying to everything based on the 2 consoles, like you have no confidence in the system. Yet, all the cows i see on this forum, never bash the 360, and if they do, it is in response to lemmings feel the need to justify their console by going on incredibly long rants and replying to every single message. All of the ps3 bashes are done in such an arrogant, ignorant manner, that their immaturity shows alot. I predict that you are in grade school, no problem if you are, because i still am, 1 year left, but just by your arrogant attitude i can tell you are very young. i know because i used to be on forums when i was in like middle school, and i have had accounts like 3 years ago even on gamespot, just to troll and flame. i just decided to be mature and talk about videogames with mature people. Your mentality also shows your immaturity, 1. because you called *yourself* a fanboy, and 2, i didnt know that when you got your beloved 360, you were banned for eternity forever from getting a ps3. If its so much better, why do you have to bash this game to such an extent?

PS.-dont reply back to this saying "dude, im 26, have a well paying job", because listen to me... EVERYBODY KNOWS all they need to know, by how you act, nothing you say will change what they see. if i am wrong about your age group, then it will show when you reply then, and if in right, it will also show.

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#144 L1qu1dSword
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[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

WTF?!?!?!? MGS4 is the best looking console game to date.

lets start posting gears and mgs4 pics side by side in this thread. mgs4 looks FAR inferior with textures lighting and just about everything. saying that about uncharted is one thing but what you put out there is completely laughable.

armymen4

no

lets have some pictures then shall we. bear in mind the last time this happened even the cows were admiting gears looked better. anything else just makes you sound like an idiot its so obvious.

Your immaturity shows so much its not even funny. I consider it extremely funny how the 360 is "Teh superior", yet every lemming like you feels they have to defend the console with everything in their power, typing 1000 words per minute, posting 100 messages per hour, replying to everything based on the 2 consoles, like you have no confidence in the system.

You say this and yet you respond to my three sentences with a novel.

Yet, all the cows i see on this forum, never bash the 360,

I feel very sorry that someone as young as you is stricken with blindness. Very sad.

and if they do, it is in response to lemmings feel the need to justify their console by going on incredibly long rants

Incredibly long rants......just like this one lol!

and replying to every single message. All of the ps3 bashes are done in such an arrogant, ignorant manner, that their immaturity shows alot. I predict that you are in grade school, no problem if you are, because i still am, 1 year left, but just by your arrogant attitude i can tell you are very young. i know because i used to be on forums when i was in like middle school, and i have had accounts like 3 years ago even on gamespot, just to troll and flame. i just decided to be mature and talk about videogames with mature people. Your mentality also shows your immaturity,

I think your misunderstanding of me and especially your naive assumptions of me show your age even more. Of course the most rediculus thing is you call me young like its a negative only to actually ADMIT that you ARE that young. Damn even for your age you are not too bright.

1. because you called *yourself* a fanboy, and 2, i didnt know that when you got your beloved 360, you were banned for eternity forever from getting a ps3. If its so much better, why do you have to bash this game to such an extent?

Your hilarious. I never called myself a fanboy. I dont have Wii because I cant find them in the store. Getting PS3 now does not make sense because I could use that money to get NG2, GTA4, Gears 2, Fable 2 and MGS 4 is the only game that would drive that purchase at all and it just is not enough. I could see myself eventually owning all three just like I did last gen.

PS.-dont reply back to this saying "dude, im 26, have a well paying job",

Its kinda creepy you say that because I really am 26 with a well paying job LOL!

because listen to me... EVERYBODY KNOWS all they need to know, by how you act, nothing you say will change what they see.

Coming from someone who admits they are in middle school that is astonishingly funny!

if i am wrong about your age group, then it will show when you reply then, and if in right, it will also show.

Brilliant. You try constructing a statement that leaves you looking "smart" no matter the outcome when in reality each scenario leaves you looking like a moron.

I give you a B for effort. Go take that report back to mommy little kid.

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MGS4 will get a 10, but the PS3 version of GTA IV will for whatever reason get a lower score than the 360 version. That's my prediction.Christopper

If MGS4 gets a 10... I will NEVER post in SW again. Quote me on that! THAT'S A SW BET!

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[QUOTE="Christopper"]MGS4 will get a 10, but the PS3 version of GTA IV will for whatever reason get a lower score than the 360 version. That's my prediction.wapahala

If MGS4 gets a 10... I will NEVER post in SW again. Quote me on that! THAT'S A SW BET!

Im doubling up on that. Quote us both. But to clarify I only accept a 10 from the gamespot reviewer. So dont try using user reviews for the bet or something.

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#147 gdp72
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Oh please make it get a 10! We'll be getting rid of some riff raff if it happens which I doubt it will get a 10. Has this site ever been payed enough money to actually hand out a 10? Who actually uses this site for referance? I know when gamespot gives a game a bad score, the game is worth checking out and when they give a good review it's best to look away. The only game I agree with this site on is Burnout Paradise which is great but that's it!
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[QUOTE="armymen4"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="tader-salad"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

WTF?!?!?!? MGS4 is the best looking console game to date.

lets start posting gears and mgs4 pics side by side in this thread. mgs4 looks FAR inferior with textures lighting and just about everything. saying that about uncharted is one thing but what you put out there is completely laughable.

L1qu1dSword

no

lets have some pictures then shall we. bear in mind the last time this happened even the cows were admiting gears looked better. anything else just makes you sound like an idiot its so obvious.

Your immaturity shows so much its not even funny. I consider it extremely funny how the 360 is "Teh superior", yet every lemming like you feels they have to defend the console with everything in their power, typing 1000 words per minute, posting 100 messages per hour, replying to everything based on the 2 consoles, like you have no confidence in the system.

You say this and yet you respond to my three sentences with a novel.

Yet, all the cows i see on this forum, never bash the 360,

I feel very sorry that someone as young as you is stricken with blindness. Very sad.

and if they do, it is in response to lemmings feel the need to justify their console by going on incredibly long rants

Incredibly long rants......just like this one lol!

and replying to every single message. All of the ps3 bashes are done in such an arrogant, ignorant manner, that their immaturity shows alot. I predict that you are in grade school, no problem if you are, because i still am, 1 year left, but just by your arrogant attitude i can tell you are very young. i know because i used to be on forums when i was in like middle school, and i have had accounts like 3 years ago even on gamespot, just to troll and flame. i just decided to be mature and talk about videogames with mature people. Your mentality also shows your immaturity,

I think your misunderstanding of me and especially your naive assumptions of me show your age even more. Of course the most rediculus thing is you call me young like its a negative only to actually ADMIT that you ARE that young. Damn even for your age you are not too bright.

1. because you called *yourself* a fanboy, and 2, i didnt know that when you got your beloved 360, you were banned for eternity forever from getting a ps3. If its so much better, why do you have to bash this game to such an extent?

Your hilarious. I never called myself a fanboy. I dont have Wii because I cant find them in the store. Getting PS3 now does not make sense because I could use that money to get NG2, GTA4, Gears 2, Fable 2 and MGS 4 is the only game that would drive that purchase at all and it just is not enough. I could see myself eventually owning all three just like I did last gen.

PS.-dont reply back to this saying "dude, im 26, have a well paying job",

Its kinda creepy you say that because I really am 26 with a well paying job LOL!

because listen to me... EVERYBODY KNOWS all they need to know, by how you act, nothing you say will change what they see.

Coming from someone who admits they are in middle school that is astonishingly funny!

if i am wrong about your age group, then it will show when you reply then, and if in right, it will also show.

Brilliant. You try constructing a statement that leaves you looking "smart" no matter the outcome when in reality each scenario leaves you looking like a moron.

I give you a B for effort. Go take that report back to mommy little kid.

Wow, you really showed me. people are really going to take anything you take seriously on this site. you will eventually get past the age, and immaturity of flaming over the internet, and youl start to actually want to talk on these forums like a mature person. and you called me little kid....can you explain what im supposed to get from that? well il just enjoy having a job, which is what people my age actually do, so i can buy both of them, while you rely on "mommy" to ? um, i said i was about to be a senior in high school, i dont remember saying i was in middle school... aka (1 more year of high school left) means 12th grade. if you were 26, which i guarrantee your not, you would not continue to make every single post you create be reportable. if i go and report every message you have posted in the last hour, every one of them would get you points taken off. dude, when i was your age, i was the same way, and did the same thing! i know how you think. i knew exactly that you would say something like that, because i did the same thing. you need to read back over what you wrote. and i made a really long message because noone likes anything that you post.

EDIT: sorry if i thought gradeschool mean all grades, i thought it ment elementary, middle, and high school lol. if it didnt, then i actually give you that one.

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#149 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="wapahala"]

[QUOTE="Christopper"]MGS4 will get a 10, but the PS3 version of GTA IV will for whatever reason get a lower score than the 360 version. That's my prediction.L1qu1dSword

If MGS4 gets a 10... I will NEVER post in SW again. Quote me on that! THAT'S A SW BET!

Im doubling up on that. Quote us both. But to clarify I only accept a 10 from the gamespot reviewer. So dont try using user reviews for the bet or something.

I think you guys are taking a risk on that one so good luck to sticking around. If it does happen to get a 10 ...... hopefully you guys will be stand up people and do the right thing , admit ownage , and leave like men. If you're not adults , tears will be acceptable.

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#150 gdp72
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I think you guys are taking a risk on that one so good luck to sticking around. If it does happen to get a 10 ...... hopefully you guys will be stand up people and do the right thing , admit ownage , and leave like men. If you're not adults , tears will be acceptable.

Nike_Air

Well considering who you are talking to, I say fat chance on that happening!