Crackdown 3 Delayed to Spring 2018

Small list, there are more:

1-2-switch

Arms

Mario + Rabbids

MK8 Deluxe

Pokken Tournament

Splatoon 2

Super Mario Odyssey

Super Bomberman R

Physical Contact: Speed

Flip Wars

Fast RMX

Ultra Street Fighter 2

Xenoblade Chronicles 2

All out this year or soon to be released.

Why are people trying to act like XBO doesn't have a games problem? It's bad. It's really bad. It's not an exaggeration. It's not a fanboy thing. Step out of the Xbox bubble for 5 mins and realize this. That's why PS4 has been selling so well and Switch is now outselling the PS4.

? Even IGN is talking about it: http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/17/opinion-how-id-fix-xboxs-first-party-problem

The lemmings here are just living up to their name. Following MS off a cliff with Xbone and defending it to the very end. Complete denial and delusion to the end lol.

But Halo Wars 2 is all anyone needs for a year!

It's amazing, in that other thread kingtito is trying to say that games doesn't matter at all to compare gaming systems. It's like butthurt has lobotomized them.

I politely disagree with you guys and think Halo, Gears and Forza are alot of fun.

That guy has some serious issues with being butthurt. He's one of the saddest and most angry lems on this board. It's why I only refer to him as KingButthurt, the name suits him more.

@Zero_epyon: Cool.. the X1 has already released or has this upcoming this year:

For Honor

Resident Evil 7

Yooka-Laylee

Observor

Slime Rancher

Cuphead

Super Lucky Tale

Sonic Mania

Thimbleweed Park

City Skylines

Voodoo Vince

Tacoma

What remains of Edith Finch

Gigantic

Halo Wars 2

Little Nightmares

Tekken 7

Dirt 4

Injustice 2

Phantom Dust

Prey Outlast 2

.. Yeah I could keep going.. don't even try to move the goalposts and say they're multiplats. Your original point was the Switch got more games than the X1 this year. You're a liar.

@primorandomguy: Reasonably sure he did mean exclusives lol, since that is the currency these things are assessed on. Overall, multiplats included, yeah, Xbox One has more games than Switch (though given that it is four years older than Switch, it should :P )

@charizard1605: Yeah but the thing is the X1 and PS4 are both getting more games than the Switch on the Switch's launch year. Just comparing 2017 alone between all 3 consoles Switch loses terribly.

Whereas this is true - I won't argue the Xbox One has more releases this year than Switch does - there are some things to consider:

• The Switch still has the highest rated games and the highest rated library on average of the three consoles this year
• The Switch is receiving more high profile exclusives than either other console, in its launch year, which is especially amazing, because
• Console launch years usually suck- it usually takes a system a year or two to get in the swing of things and start receiving games regularly. The Switch launch year on the other hand is amazing, it's been a steady stream of high quality games without a break
• Which brings me to- older consoles with more entrenched development pipelines and ecosystems getting more games than a just launched console isn't something to be surprised about, it's what is expected. The fact that the Switch still keeps pace is the ultimate testament to how great the library has turned out to be

None of this is to say that the Xbox One isn't receiving more games this year overall than the Switch is- but it does highlight that the Switch has a better exclusive lineup, the better first year lineup, and also, based on how its coming games for the rest of the year are received, a higher quality overall lineup (I will not use the word 'better' here because that is too subjective).

This comes down to a problem you and I have discussed and agreed exists- Microsoft has shit the bed with games this year. The Xbox One has not been a part of the conversation in the mainstream so far. The Switch has been, its games like Mario Kart, Splatoon, and Zelda (obviously), have been, the PS4 has been due to its amazing cadence of games... but Microsoft has sat this year out. They need to fix this problem. They need high quality exclusives that start grabbing eyeballs and headlines, as long as they rely on preaching to the choir, they will continue to have this problem.

@charizard1605: Ah it's such a relief to talk to someone about this that has some sense. Yeah but largely agreed. Next year for MS looks better with Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2, and the Ori sequel. The problem there is... I'm only looking forward to Ori. Everything else doesn't interest me. MS is lucky I'm not a PC gamer and the X1X is impressive technology that will make playing multiplats a dream. If it wasn't for that, MS would be letting me down this year and next, as it stands now. Switch really is doing great this year. I can't take that away from Nintendo, even if a lot of it came from multiplats lol.

Yup lol, likewise, it's so nice to talk to someone who is willing to have an actual discussion and not resort to calling me a fanboy :P

Next year does indeed look better with the games stacked for the Xbox One:

• Sea of Thieves
• Crackdown 3
• Ori and the Will of the Wisps
• State of Decay 2

Plus we can assume these two are next year:

• Halo 6
• Forza Horizon 4

It's a good lineup, and I will not take away from it (though it is a bit worrying that three out of the four announced games were scheduled for earlier release, and only delayed into next year, but that's water under the bridge), especially if the assumed games are also real. Microsoft can hit a big new exclusive once every two months next year- which is a good pace, but they need to stick to that pace going forward. And they also need to start investing in new games, new IP, more game types, and stick with them even if they end up not setting the world on fire the first go around- they need to learn from Sony and Nintendo in that regard, even an exclusive that doesn't do great has value, and it can be especially cultivated into a valuable property down the line.

@charizard1605: Yep agreed. At least for the rest of the year they Forza 7 and Super Lucky Tale. Well at least we know Forza will be awesome. Lol

Yup!

Btw, have you seen this? What do you think?

https://mspoweruser.com/xbox-one-x-project-scorpio-edition-leaks-ahead-reveal/

lol i can tell you copy and pasted this from somewhere

to have physical contact:speed on there completely destroys your argument lol

some good games not on xbox one.. is

namco musuem
all the neo geo games..or most.. there are about 27 neo geo games on switch
cave story
mighty gunvolt
disgaea 5 complete
i am setsuna
blaster master zero
fire emblem warriors

Actually you moved the goal post by listing multiplats. In not one list was there a game that's shared by two or more consoles. That's the whole context of the conversation.

@charizard1605: I did not know about that. That's awesome!

Hi, you're the second person that brought up these NeoGeo games on Switch. The first person was some person named Char or something and I believe he thought they were exclusive to Switch. I asked him which of these NeoGeo games are Switch exclusives and he hides, so I still don't know his answer. I was just curious, are you also claiming these 27 NeoGeo games are Switch exclusives too? Just curious. I'm just curious why these NeoGeo Switch games are being brought up.

A lot of those Switch titles are ports.

The NeoGeo titles released by Hamster Corp. have appeared on ever contemporary gaming platform including Switch, PC, PS4 and Xbox One. It's nice that Switch is included in this lineup. I like playing King of Fighters when I'm out. It lends itself well to quick gaming sessions.

Let me name the major Switch exclusives for this year:

• The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
• 1-2-Switch
• Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
• ARMS
• Splatoon 2
• Mario+Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
• Pokken Tournament DX
• Super Mario Odyssey
• Xenoblade Chronicles 2
• Fire Emblem Warriors

Let me name the major Xbox exclusives for this year:

• Halo Wars 2
• Forza Motorsport 7
• Phantom Dust
• Cuphead
• Super's Lucky Tale

Okay, now let's see you make your excuses. Go. I've even gone ahead and included major digital exclusives for Xbox, and no digital exclusives for Switch.

@charizard1605: You don't think Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Splatton 2 are like Wii - U ports with added stuff. That is all I am saying.

I guarantee you, in a console vs console, Xbox vs Switch comparison, Xbox vs Another Console comparison, the opposition will bring up another system to try to make it seem all of a sudden Xbox doesn't have all of those games. The fact is that Xbox have more games and released more than the Switch, more games not playable on the Switch even if you compare them in the same amount of time. There are just more games to play on the Xbox than there are games to play on the Switch, more games on Xbox not playable on Switch. I've said this many times, any time you try to compare Xbox vs Another Console, they will always need to add another system on their side to make it look like the Xbox isn't a viable home gaming console but Xbox continues to steadily bring it.

a) If I were to remove 'ports', Xbox would have no games, all its games are shared with PC
b) Splatoon 2 is a full fledged sequel, as much of one as Halo 2 was

Xbone 1X : Launching with an HDMI cable and shipping paper. Coming soon!

HAHAHAHA..

2014/2015/holiday 2016 not being off years is your opinion... most others thought they were (because they were). You brought up a few games that were remasters and a couple of mediocre games to prove me wrong, but frankly proved my point. Even Sony fanboys like KindaFunny Games said that the start of the generation for PS4 was mediocre. Anyway, whatevs. You believe what you want.

@gago-gago: The Switch really isn't going to be a good system that stands by itself. The Switch is best as a console that offers games you can't play on non-Nintendo systems. Basically, the Nintendo Switch is a platform for those who like Nintendo games. There also appears to be a promising trend toward 3rd party support from Japanese developers. However, the Nintendo Switch by itself is not a system that will satisfy every gaming enthusiast.

Typically having the Nintendo Switch + some other system is a good way in getting a wide spread of choices when it comes to purchasing video games. Does that mean the Nintendo Switch is best enjoyed as a secondary platform? That depends who you ask. For me, though more contemporary Nintendo consoles (outside of their dedicated portable devices) rarely have an output of games big enough to satisfy, the games that do release are typically my favorite. Take, for example, Breath of the Wild; this to me has been an essential game this year.

How I view the Nintendo Switch right now is that for those looking for the benefit of playing games on the go and also looking for a system that will offer you unique experiences and a wider list of options, it's a great purchase as not many of its games are likely to appear on other platforms. I think it's a good system to own along with another system. What that system is depends on your own preferences.

For me, the PC is a great companion to the Nintendo Switch for a wide array of options varying in many different genres. The PS4 also harbors many of its own exclusives, though personally I'm not always enamored by Sony's first party lineup (with exceptions). Sony are still able to secure some excellent 3rd party exclusives such as this year's Yakuza 0 and Nioh.

If you're hassled by PC gaming, then I think the Xbox One is a good option for those who like racing games and online multiplayer; perhaps those who are not too enthused by Japanese titles too but don't mind a few here or there.

As a whole, the Nintendo Switch by itself may not satisfy everyone on its own. I am going to guess that since its launch, it is the platform I have devoted the most time to playing on. Nintendo's idea of launching one exclusive per month has meant that there is a steady and digestible stream of titles coming in that I am curious to try (This month it is Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle). Comparing it directly to Xbox One, the Xbox has a larger library of games by virtue of 3rd party support, but I'd be surprised if nobody on this website didn't already own a system that could play these 3rd party games already which redirects some gamers' attention to the exclusives.

Yeah but I heard some people said that Splatoon 2 wasn't a true sequel but more like an expansion pack. Also because a console game is on the PC too, doesn't change the fact it's on only one console.

Yeah you are right about Nintendo having more games this year than the Xbox One it's been a bad year for MS.

*cough*

>.>

Yes, and I heard some people saying Gears 4 is a rehash of the original trilogy, that doesn't make it a rehash of the original trilogy, that makes people who say nonsense like that people who don't know what they are talking about. Same as Splatoon.

And that's not how this works, sorry- if you are admitting Xbox exclusives in spite of them all being on PC, then Switch games shared with the Wii U, a platform that no one bought and is already discontinued worldwide, absolutely need to count.

That said, we agree on the larger point. It's been a bad year. Hopefully their next year is a better year.

I agree and disagree with this. I mean if I only play Nintendo only games, then those who love and only reason to get a Nintendo system will always be satisfied and will seek out the Switch. But I like playing more than Nintendo only games, and there are just so many games that won't ever make it to the Switch. That's why yes, the Switch can never stand on it's own, it can't stand on it's own like the Xbox. As a console gamer, Xbox just gives me more. Just because the Xbox got more than the Switch doesn't make the Switch any less of a fun console to play on, it just can't be the main gaming console in my entertainment center.

@gago-gago: I don't know if I could own the Xbox One by itself either by virtues of it not having Nintendo games, which in all honesty, I generally like more than the usual output from some Western 3rd party developers. Exclusive titles on Xbox One haven't really gripped me either. This is a matter of preference but I prefer Nintendo's exclusive lineup to the Xbox One, so I couldn't own the Xbox without the Switch. I could, however own a Switch and own a PC, PS4 or Xbox. I picked up an Xbox One but have been left unsatisfied in some areas, so now I am in the process of building a new PC.

The Xbox One still has a wider variety of games because Western 3rd party developers are still supporting it quite openly. I think it's going to be a matter of taste when it comes to Xbox One and PS4. As for the Nintendo Switch, it is very relieving to hear that Capcom, Ubisoft, Atlus, Square Enix and SEGA intend to support the system in future.

It should be... Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2 & probably Halo 6, Forza Horizon 4 & Ori 2. Not bad I say.

@hrt_rulz01: That's a good batch of games. I am looking forward to Ori 2 and Sea of Thieves.

I'd wouldn't be surprised if it gets canceled.

@hrt_rulz01: no it's not an opinion. The rate at which Sony has released games have been consistent through your the gen. That's proven by the release counts. Its a fact. Even more interesting is that you are the one who suggested that consoles have off years. That was your opinion.

This is crazy. Your response to Xbox having a slow year is that PS4 has had slow years, when really it hasn't.

i just checked and you are right. xbox one and ps4 also has the neo geo games...

i didn't know.