Crysis 2 - Consolized to the max! Crysis fans beware...

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="coreybg"]

I think he's reffering to "why can't you just shut up and enjoy the game for what it is"

If all PC gamers had that attitude, we'd be paying for online right now.

JangoWuzHere

Alot of people here played the beta, and the majority of the reactions were positive. I don't understand how that attitude switched so quickly.

The gunplays betterDreamCryotank

the suit is far more flexibleDreamCryotank

there's still interaction (you can pick up pretty much anything and throw it, just like Crysis 1)DreamCryotank

the atmosphere is MUCH better, the sound design is better, the aliens are better, the animations are better, the story is better, the presentation is better, the ai is betterDreamCryotank

the leveldesign is still open, maybe not to the extent of Crysis 1 but it's nowhere near a COD clone, but yeah, I can't blow a hut apart so it's instantly terrible. :roll:DreamCryotank

I guess you just don't understand what was special about Crysis.

Finally, we can agree on something again. I was getting distressed that I couldn't agree with a Ninja Hippo. Let us look back at all the open-ended FPS games that the PC has. . I think I can count them on both hands. One hand, even. The number of linear corridor shooters on the PC? Just as many if not more than consoles.AncientDozer

But Crysis isn't a linear game now is it? Going from open ended to linearity is a step down. Sure there are hunderds of other linear shooters but Crysis isn't one of them (up until now at least).

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Call of Duty is a best-seller on the PC too. This notion that PC gamers require more intellectually stimulating games is a bit silly. AncientDozer

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]The gunplays betteryellonet

the leveldesign is still open, maybe not to the extent of Crysis 1 but it's nowhere near a COD clone, but yeah, I can't blow a hut apart so it's instantly terrible. :roll:DreamCryotank

I guess you just don't understand what was special about Crysis.

1. Have you played Quake, Wolfenstein(prone and lean + objectives), Unreal? The gunplay is as dumb and simple as halo >.> I don't know where you got the idea that pc games are all sims, some are acadey/competative not realistic.

2. OMG SHACKS /facedesk, There weren't destructible buildings, just destructable shacks, trees and oil drums.

And I just spent the only "exploding building" series I had left in that Crysis 2: Blur thread...

Edit: My faith is'nt completely gone yet though. What the heck, I'll recycle a bit.

Crysis 2 lacks this:

Filthybastrd

You mean a bunch of card board buildings? That fell over? Are you aware these were the only buildings that fell apart? Warehouses or anything else didn't do a single thing.. This part of the game was over stated because it wasn't much of accomplishment to begin with..

"Waaaah they consolized this!" "They conzolized that!"

Do PC gamers have to feel so superior that they have to use this word every 10 seconds? I don't understand why you can't just shut the up and enjoy the game for what it is. I've been PC gaming for a couple years now and I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I just can't stand the community. All the elitists and hardcores do is just give us a bad name.

JangoWuzHere

When I say that they consolized it I mean that they stripped it of the things that made it good.
Llarge open world, destructible environment and choices about how to move on, gone.

They've in effect turned the Crysis franchise into just-another-shooter, there's nothing special about it any longer.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

"Waaaah they consolized this!" "They conzolized that!"

Do PC gamers have to feel so superior that they have to use this word every 10 seconds? I don't understand why you can't just shut the up and enjoy the game for what it is. I've been PC gaming for a couple years now and I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I just can't stand the community. All the elitists and hardcores do is just give us a bad name.

yellonet

When I say that they consolized it I mean that they stripped it of the things that made it good.
Llarge open world, destructible environment and choices about how to move on, gone.

They've in effect turned the Crysis franchise into just-another-shooter, there's nothing special about it any longer.

This was pretty much known from the get go that it wouldn't have the landscapes Crysis one had in size.. A) Because consoles could never handle such large landscapes at this graphics level.. B) This would be REALLY hard to do for any company, in making immense open levels of buildings in a city.. Far greater than generating a randomized forest along a topography made by the developers..

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]The gunplays betteryellonet

the suit is far more flexibleDreamCryotank

there's still interaction (you can pick up pretty much anything and throw it, just like Crysis 1)DreamCryotank

the atmosphere is MUCH better, the sound design is better, the aliens are better, the animations are better, the story is better, the presentation is better, the ai is betterDreamCryotank

the leveldesign is still open, maybe not to the extent of Crysis 1 but it's nowhere near a COD clone, but yeah, I can't blow a hut apart so it's instantly terrible. :roll:DreamCryotank

I guess you just don't understand what was special about Crysis.

The gunplay feels far more "meatier". It doesn't feel like you're shooting an apparatus that flops around like a fish (Crysis 1). And again, I think people are overexaggerating Crysis 1s level design. So you can drive a boat alongside the island? This is a CITY, because people don't seem to grasp this. The levels are still open, and can be tackled in different ways. Like I said, people seem to think you can scale mountains in Crysis 1. :roll: And I don't see how having a presentation equals being led by the hand. Half Life 2 was the most linear game I've ever played, it still blew me away. And having a dynamic lean system is bad? It works far more satisfyingly then the awkward lean in Crysis 1.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

"Waaaah they consolized this!" "They conzolized that!"

Do PC gamers have to feel so superior that they have to use this word every 10 seconds? I don't understand why you can't just shut the up and enjoy the game for what it is. I've been PC gaming for a couple years now and I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I just can't stand the community. All the elitists and hardcores do is just give us a bad name.

yellonet

When I say that they consolized it I mean that they stripped it of the things that made it good.
Llarge open world, destructible environment and choices about how to move on, gone.

They've in effect turned the Crysis franchise into just-another-shooter, there's nothing special about it any longer.

[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

"Waaaah they consolized this!" "They conzolized that!"

Do PC gamers have to feel so superior that they have to use this word every 10 seconds? I don't understand why you can't just shut the up and enjoy the game for what it is. I've been PC gaming for a couple years now and I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I just can't stand the community. All the elitists and hardcores do is just give us a bad name.

sSubZerOo

When I say that they consolized it I mean that they stripped it of the things that made it good.
Llarge open world, destructible environment and choices about how to move on, gone.

They've in effect turned the Crysis franchise into just-another-shooter, there's nothing special about it any longer.

This was pretty much known from the get go that it wouldn't have the landscapes Crysis one had in size.. A) Because consoles could never handle such large landscapes at this graphics level.. B) This would be REALLY hard to do for any company, in making immense open levels of buildings in a city.. Far greater than generating a randomized forest along a topography made by the developers..

1. Have you played Quake, Wolfenstein(prone and lean + objectives), Unreal? The gunplay is as dumb and simple as halo >.> I don't know where you got the idea that pc games are all sims, some are acadey/competative not realistic.Inconsistancy

2. OMG SHACKS /facedesk, There weren't destructible buildings, just destructable shacks, trees and oil drums.Inconsistancy

I don't get people that defend decicions made by saying they don't care about them...

I honestly think they should had made it for PC 1st and ported to consoles, then no PC gamers will complain.

There were PC games in the past that didn't allow you to toggle with the graphics options, but I'm hoping the final build is not like that demo when it comes to graphics options.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]1. Have you played Quake, Wolfenstein(prone and lean + objectives), Unreal? The gunplay is as dumb and simple as halo >.> I don't know where you got the idea that pc games are all sims, some are acadey/competative not realistic.yellonet

2. OMG SHACKS /facedesk, There weren't destructible buildings, just destructable shacks, trees and oil drums.Inconsistancy

I don't get people that defend decicions made by saying they don't care about them...

Because it's being overexaggerated to the point that it automatically means Crysis 2 is a terrible game. Jungle =/= City. Is it so hard to understand?

Not enough images in this thread. Here's Crysis 2 MP demo:

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

"Waaaah they consolized this!" "They conzolized that!"

Do PC gamers have to feel so superior that they have to use this word every 10 seconds? I don't understand why you can't just shut the up and enjoy the game for what it is. I've been PC gaming for a couple years now and I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I just can't stand the community. All the elitists and hardcores do is just give us a bad name.

yellonet

When I say that they consolized it I mean that they stripped it of the things that made it good.
Llarge open world, destructible environment and choices about how to move on, gone.

They've in effect turned the Crysis franchise into just-another-shooter, there's nothing special about it any longer.

The destructible environments did not make Crysis good.

And the open world and choices are still there. Have you played Crysis 2? Where are you getting these assumptions? I think I trust my own eyes, everything I have seen so far gives me the impression that its just as open as Crysis and gives you as much ability to tackle any situation. Likely even more so considering the improvements in gameplay.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="yellonet"]This has nothing to do with feeling superior.
This is about Crytek taking a franchise that had several highly regarded unique qualities and taking a dump all over it.

When I say that they consolized it I mean that they stripped it of the things that made it good.
Llarge open world, destructible environment and choices about how to move on, gone.

They've in effect turned the Crysis franchise into just-another-shooter, there's nothing special about it any longer.

alexside1

This was pretty much known from the get go that it wouldn't have the landscapes Crysis one had in size.. A) Because consoles could never handle such large landscapes at this graphics level.. B) This would be REALLY hard to do for any company, in making immense open levels of buildings in a city.. Far greater than generating a randomized forest along a topography made by the developers..

Call of Duty is a best-seller on the PC too. This notion that PC gamers require more intellectually stimulating games is a bit silly. Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

This was pretty much known from the get go that it wouldn't have the landscapes Crysis one had in size.. A) Because consoles could never handle such large landscapes at this graphics level.. B) This would be REALLY hard to do for any company, in making immense open levels of buildings in a city.. Far greater than generating a randomized forest along a topography made by the developers..

yellonet

Not enough images in this thread. Here's Crysis 2 MP demo:

Filthybastrd

Right. :roll:

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]1. Have you played Quake, Wolfenstein(prone and lean + objectives), Unreal? The gunplay is as dumb and simple as halo >.> I don't know where you got the idea that pc games are all sims, some are acadey/competative not realistic.yellonet

2. OMG SHACKS /facedesk, There weren't destructible buildings, just destructable shacks, trees and oil drums.Inconsistancy

I don't get people that defend decicions made by saying they don't care about them...

2. How was it important that you could shoot down trees and blow up shacks? -.-. Please explain how that can possibly be important? Crysis-2 you can sparta kick cars blow up barrels and watch scripted buildings fall (bet you can shoot the crysis 2 trees down too..), that's ~= shacks trees and barrels. None are important in gameplay at all 'cept in a bulletstorm sorta way, like throwing a barrel like a giant grenade and shooting it(still exists in crysis2) maybe crysis should have a DMC like style meter to encourage creative kills..

And it's unrealistic to shoot a tree down with a few bullets anyway, or for the metal of a shack to not deform when it is hit with something or an explosion. Hell, even a barrel of gasoline shouldn't be blowing up so easily. Not to mention that liquid gas won't ignite, so often it should just catch fire, fuel air mixture is too rich for a real explosion.

Crysis' shack physics are no more impressive than the Source tech demo a million years ago, when they showed balls falling past pegs.

The gunplay feels far more "meatier". It doesn't feel like you're shooting an apparatus that flops around like a fish (Crysis 1).DreamCryotank

And again, I think people are overexaggerating Crysis 1s level design. So you can drive a boat alongside the island? This is a CITY, because people don't seem to grasp this. The levels are still open, and can be tackled in different ways. Like I said, people seem to think you can scale mountains in Crysis 1. :roll:DreamCryotank

And I don't see how having a presentation equals being led by the hand. Half Life 2 was the most linear game I've ever played, it still blew me awayDreamCryotank

And having a dynamic lean system is bad? It works far more satisfyingly then the awkward lean in Crysis 1.DreamCryotank

1. You commented on someone liking the 'simplified' gunplay (still more complex than any id or epic shooter), and said it's consolized, when it's really just more similar to other pc games, Wolfenstein:ET didn't feel realistic even with prone and lean, that mostly amounted to cheese for better accuracy and getting shot in the face when you peered 'round a corner.Inconsistancy

2. How was it important that you could shoot down trees and blow up shacks? -.-. Please explain how that can possibly be importantInconsistancy

Crysis-2 you can sparta kick cars blow up barrels and watch scripted buildings fall (bet you can shoot the crysis 2 trees down too..), that's ~= shacks trees and barrels. None are important in gameplay at all 'cept in a bulletstorm sorta way, like throwing a barrel like a giant grenade and shooting it(still exists in crysis2) maybe crysis should have a DMC like ****meter to encourage creative kills..Inconsistancy

And it's unrealistic to shoot a tree down with a few bullets anyway, or for the metal of a shack to not deform when it is hit with something or an explosion. Hell, even a barrel of gasoline shouldn't be blowing up so easily. Not to mention that liquid gas won't ignite, so often it should just catch fire, fuel air mixture is too rich for a real explosion.

Crysis' shack physics are no more impressive than the Source tech demo a million years ago, when they showed balls falling past pegs.Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]2. How was it important that you could shoot down trees and blow up shacks? -.-. Please explain how that can possibly be importantyellonet

Pretty much, yeah. I thought the second one would bring an evolution when it came to destructible objects but nothing in those mp map is destructible.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]1. You commented on someone liking the 'simplified' gunplay (still more complex than any id or epic shooter), and said it's consolized, when it's really just more similar to other pc games, Wolfenstein:ET didn't feel realistic even with prone and lean, that mostly amounted to cheese for better accuracy and getting shot in the face when you peered 'round a corner.yellonet

2. How was it important that you could shoot down trees and blow up shacks? -.-. Please explain how that can possibly be importantInconsistancy

Crysis-2 you can sparta kick cars blow up barrels and watch scripted buildings fall (bet you can shoot the crysis 2 trees down too..), that's ~= shacks trees and barrels. None are important in gameplay at all 'cept in a bulletstorm sorta way, like throwing a barrel like a giant grenade and shooting it(still exists in crysis2) maybe crysis should have a DMC like ****meter to encourage creative kills..Inconsistancy

And it's unrealistic to shoot a tree down with a few bullets anyway, or for the metal of a shack to not deform when it is hit with something or an explosion. Hell, even a barrel of gasoline shouldn't be blowing up so easily. Not to mention that liquid gas won't ignite, so often it should just catch fire, fuel air mixture is too rich for a real explosion.

Crysis' shack physics are no more impressive than the Source tech demo a million years ago, when they showed balls falling past pegs.Inconsistancy

I commend you for naming things outside of graphics. But at the same time nothing you stated is correct, some is simply your opinion others are just flat out wrong. In terms of gameplay there is nothing Crysis 1 does that Crysis 2 doesn't do. Not one thing. While at the same time Crysis 2 does many thing Crysis 1 doesn't. When has Crysis ever not given you information on your next objective/s? Instead now its the suit instead of Profit telling you where you need to go. You say you're being herded from point to point with little options, but compared to the original Crysis you actually have more options, all highlightable with your binoculars. Controls are preference, personally I like the new cover system much better. It's much easier to control how much or little of yourself you want to have in or out of cover at one time. Holding down Q or E while trying to zoom and move left or right all at the same time is awkward for me. I'll take the city gameplay of C2 over the jungle gameplay of C1 anyday. There is just more to see and do in a city environment. i5750at4Ghz

Crysis let you chose how to get to point a to point b, c, and d. You still went to the same point as in any game, but you didn't have to take the road laid out for you. Crysis 2 might as well be a roller-coaster ride considering how linear and lifeless it is.

What does Crysis 2 do that Crysis 1 doesn't? It holds your hand through the whole game because the player is apparently not smart enough to figure it out on his own (consolization.) It highlights every single point of "attack" that the developers deemed to be the best way. Crysis 1 didn't give you that information and there was an unlimited way to attack an encampment. You don't get to find anything secret, the suit highlights everything for you (consolization.)

The control is more locked down with lag (power jump.) Crysis 1 had way better usage of its powers besides energy depleition which is the only part of the suit I like.

There was way more to see in the jungles of Crysis 1, and it was a hell of a lot more interesting. And do? Whats there to do besides finding those collectables?

[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]2. How was it important that you could shoot down trees and blow up shacks? -.-. Please explain how that can possibly be importantedidili

Pretty much, yeah. I thought the second one would bring an evolution when it came to destructible objects but nothing in those mp map is destructible.

Nothing in the first Crysis MP was destructible either. You had to play on DX10 servers which no one did.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]I commend you for naming things outside of graphics. But at the same time nothing you stated is correct, some is simply your opinion others are just flat out wrong. In terms of gameplay there is nothing Crysis 1 does that Crysis 2 doesn't do. Not one thing. While at the same time Crysis 2 does many thing Crysis 1 doesn't. When has Crysis ever not given you information on your next objective/s? Instead now its the suit instead of Profit telling you where you need to go. You say you're being herded from point to point with little options, but compared to the original Crysis you actually have more options, all highlightable with your binoculars. Controls are preference, personally I like the new cover system much better. It's much easier to control how much or little of yourself you want to have in or out of cover at one time. Holding down Q or E while trying to zoom and move left or right all at the same time is awkward for me. I'll take the city gameplay of C2 over the jungle gameplay of C1 anyday. There is just more to see and do in a city environment. ChubbyGuy40

Crysis let you chose how to get to point a to point b, c, and d. You still went to the same point as in any game, but you didn't have to take the road laid out for you. Crysis 2 might as well be a roller-coaster ride considering how linear and lifeless it is.

What does Crysis 2 do that Crysis 1 doesn't? It holds your hand through the whole game because the player is apparently not smart enough to figure it out on his own (consolization.) It highlights every single point of "attack" that the developers deemed to be the best way. Crysis 1 didn't give you that information and there was an unlimited way to attack an encampment. You don't get to find anything secret, the suit highlights everything for you (consolization.)

The control is more locked down with lag (power jump.) Crysis 1 had way better usage of its powers besides energy depleition which is the only part of the suit I like.

There was way more to see in the jungles of Crysis 1, and it was a hell of a lot more interesting. And do? Whats there to do besides finding those collectables?

Again, were are people getting these assumptions?

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]I commend you for naming things outside of graphics. But at the same time nothing you stated is correct, some is simply your opinion others are just flat out wrong. In terms of gameplay there is nothing Crysis 1 does that Crysis 2 doesn't do. Not one thing. While at the same time Crysis 2 does many thing Crysis 1 doesn't. When has Crysis ever not given you information on your next objective/s? Instead now its the suit instead of Profit telling you where you need to go. You say you're being herded from point to point with little options, but compared to the original Crysis you actually have more options, all highlightable with your binoculars. Controls are preference, personally I like the new cover system much better. It's much easier to control how much or little of yourself you want to have in or out of cover at one time. Holding down Q or E while trying to zoom and move left or right all at the same time is awkward for me. I'll take the city gameplay of C2 over the jungle gameplay of C1 anyday. There is just more to see and do in a city environment. ChubbyGuy40

Crysis let you chose how to get to point a to point b, c, and d. You still went to the same point as in any game, but you didn't have to take the road laid out for you. Crysis 2 might as well be a roller-coaster ride considering how linear and lifeless it is.

What does Crysis 2 do that Crysis 1 doesn't? It holds your hand through the whole game because the player is apparently not smart enough to figure it out on his own (consolization.) It highlights every single point of "attack" that the developers deemed to be the best way. Crysis 1 didn't give you that information and there was an unlimited way to attack an encampment. You don't get to find anything secret, the suit highlights everything for you (consolization.)

The control is more locked down with lag (power jump.) Crysis 1 had way better usage of its powers besides energy depleition which is the only part of the suit I like.

There was way more to see in the jungles of Crysis 1, and it was a hell of a lot more interesting. And do? Whats there to do besides finding those collectables?

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]I commend you for naming things outside of graphics. But at the same time nothing you stated is correct, some is simply your opinion others are just flat out wrong. In terms of gameplay there is nothing Crysis 1 does that Crysis 2 doesn't do. Not one thing. While at the same time Crysis 2 does many thing Crysis 1 doesn't. When has Crysis ever not given you information on your next objective/s? Instead now its the suit instead of Profit telling you where you need to go. You say you're being herded from point to point with little options, but compared to the original Crysis you actually have more options, all highlightable with your binoculars. Controls are preference, personally I like the new cover system much better. It's much easier to control how much or little of yourself you want to have in or out of cover at one time. Holding down Q or E while trying to zoom and move left or right all at the same time is awkward for me. I'll take the city gameplay of C2 over the jungle gameplay of C1 anyday. There is just more to see and do in a city environment. ChubbyGuy40

Crysis let you chose how to get to point a to point b, c, and d. You still went to the same point as in any game, but you didn't have to take the road laid out for you. Crysis 2 might as well be a roller-coaster ride considering how linear and lifeless it is.

What does Crysis 2 do that Crysis 1 doesn't? It holds your hand through the whole game because the player is apparently not smart enough to figure it out on his own (consolization.) It highlights every single point of "attack" that the developers deemed to be the best way. Crysis 1 didn't give you that information and there was an unlimited way to attack an encampment. You don't get to find anything secret, the suit highlights everything for you (consolization.)

The control is more locked down with lag (power jump.) Crysis 1 had way better usage of its powers besides energy depleition which is the only part of the suit I like.

There was way more to see in the jungles of Crysis 1, and it was a hell of a lot more interesting. And do? Whats there to do besides finding those collectables?

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]I commend you for naming things outside of graphics. But at the same time nothing you stated is correct, some is simply your opinion others are just flat out wrong. In terms of gameplay there is nothing Crysis 1 does that Crysis 2 doesn't do. Not one thing. While at the same time Crysis 2 does many thing Crysis 1 doesn't. When has Crysis ever not given you information on your next objective/s? Instead now its the suit instead of Profit telling you where you need to go. You say you're being herded from point to point with little options, but compared to the original Crysis you actually have more options, all highlightable with your binoculars. Controls are preference, personally I like the new cover system much better. It's much easier to control how much or little of yourself you want to have in or out of cover at one time. Holding down Q or E while trying to zoom and move left or right all at the same time is awkward for me. I'll take the city gameplay of C2 over the jungle gameplay of C1 anyday. There is just more to see and do in a city environment. ChubbyGuy40

Crysis let you chose how to get to point a to point b, c, and d. You still went to the same point as in any game, but you didn't have to take the road laid out for you. Crysis 2 might as well be a roller-coaster ride considering how linear and lifeless it is.

What does Crysis 2 do that Crysis 1 doesn't? It holds your hand through the whole game because the player is apparently not smart enough to figure it out on his own (consolization.) It highlights every single point of "attack" that the developers deemed to be the best way. Crysis 1 didn't give you that information and there was an unlimited way to attack an encampment. You don't get to find anything secret, the suit highlights everything for you (consolization.)

The control is more locked down with lag (power jump.) Crysis 1 had way better usage of its powers besides energy depleition which is the only part of the suit I like.

There was way more to see in the jungles of Crysis 1, and it was a hell of a lot more interesting. And do? Whats there to do besides finding those collectables?

[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]2. How was it important that you could shoot down trees and blow up shacks? -.-. Please explain how that can possibly be importantJangoWuzHere

Pretty much, yeah. I thought the second one would bring an evolution when it came to destructible objects but nothing in those mp map is destructible.

Nothing in the first Crysis MP was destructible either. You had to play on DX10 servers which no one did.

That's why I expected an evolution from Crysis 2.

*Waits for the Crytek fanboys to come in and defend the consolization of Crysis 2*

Oh, wait, nvm, they're already here.

*Waits for the Crytek fanboys to come in and defend the consolization of Crysis 2*

Oh, wait, nvm, they're already here.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]I commend you for naming things outside of graphics. But at the same time nothing you stated is correct, some is simply your opinion others are just flat out wrong. In terms of gameplay there is nothing Crysis 1 does that Crysis 2 doesn't do. Not one thing. While at the same time Crysis 2 does many thing Crysis 1 doesn't. When has Crysis ever not given you information on your next objective/s? Instead now its the suit instead of Profit telling you where you need to go. You say you're being herded from point to point with little options, but compared to the original Crysis you actually have more options, all highlightable with your binoculars. Controls are preference, personally I like the new cover system much better. It's much easier to control how much or little of yourself you want to have in or out of cover at one time. Holding down Q or E while trying to zoom and move left or right all at the same time is awkward for me. I'll take the city gameplay of C2 over the jungle gameplay of C1 anyday. There is just more to see and do in a city environment. JangoWuzHere

Crysis let you chose how to get to point a to point b, c, and d. You still went to the same point as in any game, but you didn't have to take the road laid out for you. Crysis 2 might as well be a roller-coaster ride considering how linear and lifeless it is.

What does Crysis 2 do that Crysis 1 doesn't? It holds your hand through the whole game because the player is apparently not smart enough to figure it out on his own (consolization.) It highlights every single point of "attack" that the developers deemed to be the best way. Crysis 1 didn't give you that information and there was an unlimited way to attack an encampment. You don't get to find anything secret, the suit highlights everything for you (consolization.)

The control is more locked down with lag (power jump.) Crysis 1 had way better usage of its powers besides energy depleition which is the only part of the suit I like.

There was way more to see in the jungles of Crysis 1, and it was a hell of a lot more interesting. And do? Whats there to do besides finding those collectables?

Again, were are people getting these assumptions?

O jeez are people living under a rock? People are seeing it first or 2nd hand from the leaked beta which is a complete game , only the final touch up's are what needs to be finished. But for all in all its the game your going to see.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Crysis let you chose how to get to point a to point b, c, and d. You still went to the same point as in any game, but you didn't have to take the road laid out for you. Crysis 2 might as well be a roller-coaster ride considering how linear and lifeless it is.

What does Crysis 2 do that Crysis 1 doesn't? It holds your hand through the whole game because the player is apparently not smart enough to figure it out on his own (consolization.) It highlights every single point of "attack" that the developers deemed to be the best way. Crysis 1 didn't give you that information and there was an unlimited way to attack an encampment. You don't get to find anything secret, the suit highlights everything for you (consolization.)

The control is more locked down with lag (power jump.) Crysis 1 had way better usage of its powers besides energy depleition which is the only part of the suit I like.

There was way more to see in the jungles of Crysis 1, and it was a hell of a lot more interesting. And do? Whats there to do besides finding those collectables?

04dcarraher

Again, were are people getting these assumptions?

O jeez are people living under a rock? People are seeing it first or 2nd hand from the leaked beta which is a complete game , only the final touch up's are what needs to be finished. But for all in all its the game your going to see.

I think basing your judgements on beta gameplay videos is a terrible way to judge this game. And if you did play the beta and will not buy this game, you are simply pirating it.

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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Again, were are people getting these assumptions?

JangoWuzHere

O jeez are people living under a rock? People are seeing it first or 2nd hand from the leaked beta which is a complete game , only the final touch up's are what needs to be finished. But for all in all its the game your going to see.

I think basing your judgements on beta gameplay videos is a terrible way to judge this game. And if you did play the beta and will not buy this game, you are simply pirating it.

How is downloading an imcomplete beta of the game pirating? I still plan on buying it. The game is horrible in its current condition but its still a ton of fun.

Yeah I downloaded the beta. Many here have and have stated so on the forums. I haven't even touched the MP demo, but I've played a good amount of the beta to know it sure as hell not worth 60 bucks. I don't think the game is going to be massively different from a 2-3 month old build. In comparison to the first, this game stands out on its own, but it fails to maintain what made Crysis 1 a blast and fresh entry in the FPS market.

This isn't an assumption. These are my opinions and experiences. I'm just trying to figure out why people like Crysis 2 as much as they do. I'm not seeing it. Fun game, but a step down in everything besides presentation and story.

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

O jeez are people living under a rock? People are seeing it first or 2nd hand from the leaked beta which is a complete game , only the final touch up's are what needs to be finished. But for all in all its the game your going to see.

ChubbyGuy40

I think basing your judgements on beta gameplay videos is a terrible way to judge this game. And if you did play the beta and will not buy this game, you are simply pirating it.

How is downloading an imcomplete beta of the game pirating? I still plan on buying it. The game is horrible in its current condition but its still a ton of fun.

Yeah I downloaded the beta. Many here have and have stated so on the forums. I haven't even touched the MP demo, but I've played a good amount of the beta to know it sure as hell not worth 60 bucks. I don't think the game is going to be massively different from a 2-3 month old build. In comparison to the first, this game stands out on its own, but it fails to maintain what made Crysis 1 a blast and fresh entry in the FPS market.

This isn't an assumption. These are my opinions and experiences.

Is it true what TC is saying?GeneralShowzer

Its completely 100% true. Like I said its not a bad game, but it doesn't live up to the original.

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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I think basing your judgements on beta gameplay videos is a terrible way to judge this game. And if you did play the beta and will not buy this game, you are simply pirating it.

GeneralShowzer

How is downloading an imcomplete beta of the game pirating? I still plan on buying it. The game is horrible in its current condition but its still a ton of fun.

Yeah I downloaded the beta. Many here have and have stated so on the forums. I haven't even touched the MP demo, but I've played a good amount of the beta to know it sure as hell not worth 60 bucks. I don't think the game is going to be massively different from a 2-3 month old build. In comparison to the first, this game stands out on its own, but it fails to maintain what made Crysis 1 a blast and fresh entry in the FPS market.

This isn't an assumption. These are my opinions and experiences.

Yes, but. It all depends on what type of gameplay you like more. Crysis 2 is a major step backwards in my opinion from what Ive seen.

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

O jeez are people living under a rock? People are seeing it first or 2nd hand from the leaked beta which is a complete game , only the final touch up's are what needs to be finished. But for all in all its the game your going to see.

ChubbyGuy40

I think basing your judgements on beta gameplay videos is a terrible way to judge this game. And if you did play the beta and will not buy this game, you are simply pirating it.

How is downloading an imcomplete beta of the game pirating? I still plan on buying it. The game is horrible in its current condition but its still a ton of fun.

Yeah I downloaded the beta. Many here have and have stated so on the forums. I haven't even touched the MP demo, but I've played a good amount of the beta to know it sure as hell not worth 60 bucks. I don't think the game is going to be massively different from a 2-3 month old build. In comparison to the first, this game stands out on its own, but it fails to maintain what made Crysis 1 a blast and fresh entry in the FPS market.

This isn't an assumption. These are my opinions and experiences. I'm just trying to figure out why people like Crysis 2 as much as they do. I'm not seeing it. Fun game, but a step down in everything besides presentation and story.

I'm saying if you chicken out now and decide NOT to buy the game after playing the beta, then thats simply pirating. I think you need to read more carefully. And obviously downloading the full beta could be considered pirating, its the full game from start to finish.