Why don't console gamers who aren't complete dumbarses step forward and dismiss what these idiots say right now? PC gamers on this forum are always there to talk down the idiots who tell people that console gaming is worthless etc.

I mean, really. Some of the stuff on this thread is utterly embarrassing...

FGMPR

Maybe they're just trawling?

[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="ducati101"]The more this story develops, the more it looks like a leak from Crytek themselves. What are the chances now of the game geting delayed now? Convenient?ducati101

No suprise. For the final game in the trilogy Crytek will likely follow R* and abandon the sinking (pirate) ship that is PC-gaming.Sushiglutton

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

pirate hermits are a disgrace to gaming

hypoty

I guess console pirates are alright then.

pirate hermits are a disgrace to gaming

Harisemo

true...

i feel so bad for Crytek right now... i hope this doesn't hurt PC sales too bad.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="BodyElite"] It was also pirated over 2 million times... BodyElite

Those weren't lost sales. Those numbers don't negate the large sales of the original Crysis games.

You are grasping for straws, with EA on charge you are pretty much set on the multiplatform business...

Also, why wouldn't a company want to expand their market?? I don't see how this is wrong

And the whole Crysis only being a benchmark, please be more original, your beating a dead horse here, Crysis was highly acclaimed because its gameplay and won several awards because of it, even surpasing Halo 3, COD4, BioShock and the orange box over here in GS.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

pirate hermits are a disgrace to gaming

LookAnDrolL

I guess console pirates are alright then.

Piracy hurts PC sales much more than consoles sales and this is exactly why devs almost always complain about PC piracy

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"][QUOTE="hypoty"]

I guess console pirates are alright then.

Harisemo

Piracy hurts PC sales much more than consoles sales and this is exactly why devs almost always complain about PC piracy

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]No suprise. For the final game in the trilogy Crytek will likely follow R* and abandon the sinking (pirate) ship that is PC-gaming.LookAnDrolL

Basically every game is leaked to torrent sites several days before their release. Like for example, MvsC3 is already out there and millions of people have downloaded the X360 version of the game but unlike the situation of Crysis 2 you can't play the game online cus then you'll be banned and considering that half the fun of the game comes from playing online then pirating it is not worth it.

To this let me add that to this date the PS3's the only console free of piracy and all the hackers are getting their ass handed to Sony. :lol:

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"][QUOTE="hypoty"]

I guess console pirates are alright then.

Harisemo

Piracy hurts PC sales much more than consoles sales and this is exactly why devs almost always complain about PC piracy

Show some proof of PC dev's complaining about PC piracy then...

To this let me add that to this date the PS3's the only console free of piracy and all the hackers are getting their ass handed to Sony. :lol:

Gue1

There's piracy on the PS3.

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"][QUOTE="hypoty"]

I guess console pirates are alright then.

Harisemo

Piracy hurts PC sales much more than consoles sales and this is exactly why devs almost always complain about PC piracy

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"][QUOTE="hypoty"]

I guess console pirates are alright then.

Harisemo

Piracy hurts PC sales much more than consoles sales and this is exactly why devs almost always complain about PC piracy

This is why so many games go multiplat with consoles, PC gamers :x...:P

Wii4Fun

Oh give me a break..Mw2, black ops, halo, etc. have been leaked before they were released and its always the xbox 360 versions...

I'm curious to see how well my comp will run this. Just added another stick of RAM today, up to 8gigs. I was at a pathetic 4 before = (bleehum

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"] Only in SW. ME2 was leaked on 360 two weeks before release... did it hurt the game sales??? I don't think soFGMPR

Piracy hurts PC sales much more than consoles sales and this is exactly why devs almost always complain about PC piracy

Show some proof of PC dev's complaining about PC piracy then...

really have you never seen any pc dev complain about piracy?

I m seeing alot of pc gamer downloading this, you shouldve made the MP beta come out for PC gamers first....How does Karma feels now eh?Solid_Tango

That makes no sense. Just because they released the beta on 360 first they deserve all this damage?

[QUOTE="FGMPR"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

Piracy hurts PC sales much more than consoles sales and this is exactly why devs almost always complain about PC piracy

KiZZo1

Show some proof of PC dev's complaining about PC piracy then...

Here ya go: Epic: "PC piracy drove us to consoles"

Fair enough. I don't believe it though, and I'm not sure why anyone would. Why would a developer, if it had the backing of a big studio, not develop on 3 platforms instead of 1?

Independent dev's prefer PC because they are able to make money with little risk. When they become sucessful enough they move onto multi platform development, and their games become a shadow of their previous selves. That's just the way it is. I don't care if Cervat Yerli (who moaned about PC piracy in 2008 for Crysis when 2 years later it had sold almost 5million copies) or Mark Rein (who's last PC exclusive game was UT2k4, which sold well) try and blame piracy for their non PC centric games not selling well on PC. If UT3 was PC only, and developed without the gigantic anchor that is console development, than it would have sold appropriately.

Certain developers understand this, and that's why your seeing DICE putting the effort required in to make a great selling PC game with BF3. Try and compare what we know about BF3 to EPIC's **** Gears of War PC port.

[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]I m seeing alot of pc gamer downloading this, you shouldve made the MP beta come out for PC gamers first....How does Karma feels now eh?waltefmoney

That makes no sense. Just because they released the beta on 360 first they deserve all this damage?

They desever this damage for hiring incompetent people, its their own Fault, also go to the official site and read the statement EA released about this, they are already blaming piracy :|Solid_Tango

Who should they blame for their game being pirated, if not pirates?

Who should they blame for their game being pirated, if not pirates?waltefmoney

And I have no doubt in my mind that it will still sell several million copies on PC and fail to satisfy Crytek's extreme desire for unit sales, further driving them away from the PC platform due to something that is completely unavoidable (except when they let an employee leak the game to the public, which this most undoubtedly was what happened) and not trying to make more people interested in buying their game (offering a lower retail price to start, or incentives for buying on release day, or anything that gives people more reason to pay).foxhound_fox

As far as I'm concerned, Yerli embarrassed himself when he basically accused PC gamers as a bunch of worthless pirates, and a couple of years later was bragging about Crysis sales in a company presentation. He seems to feel as if Crytek have an entitlement to 20 million sales, CoD like. They don't, Crysis 2 will sell well, and if it's total sales on all 3 platforms end up the same as C1's did on just PC, it would have still been a big success.

Why else is C2's multiplayer looking like a POS **** CoD clone instead of improving on power struggle from the original?

Why is everyone blaming pc gamers when it was Crytek who leaked a beta full version.:| this is more of a security issue for Crytek/EA since someone on the inside leaked it..

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And I have no doubt in my mind that it will still sell several million copies on PC and fail to satisfy Crytek's extreme desire for unit sales, further driving them away from the PC platform due to something that is completely unavoidable (except when they let an employee leak the game to the public, which this most undoubtedly was what happened) and not trying to make more people interested in buying their game (offering a lower retail price to start, or incentives for buying on release day, or anything that gives people more reason to pay).FGMPR

As far as I'm concerned, Yerli embarrassed himself when he basically accused PC gamers as a bunch of worthless pirates, and a couple of years later was bragging about Crysis sales in a company presentation. He seems to feel as if Crytek have an entitlement to 20 million sales, CoD like. They don't, Crysis 2 will sell well, and if it's total sales on all 3 platforms end up the same as C1's did on just PC, it would have still been a big success.

Why else is C2's multiplayer looking like a POS **** CoD clone instead of improving on power struggle from the original?

[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]They desever this damage for hiring incompetent people, its their own Fault, also go to the official site and read the statement EA released about this, they are already blaming piracy :|waltefmoney

Who should they blame for their game being pirated, if not pirates?

Why is everyone blaming pc gamers when it was Crytek who leaked a beta full version.:| this is more of a security issue for Crytek/EA since someone on the inside leaked it..

devious742

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Who should they blame for their game being pirated, if not pirates?

Solid_Tango

An insider leaked it.. and then pirates pirated it(pirates gonna pirate). But that doesn't mean EA and Crytek are not allowed to complain and blame them. They'll probably lose a lot of money.

[QUOTE="devious742"]

Why is everyone blaming pc gamers when it was Crytek who leaked a beta full version.:| this is more of a security issue for Crytek/EA since someone on the inside leaked it..

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="devious742"]

Why is everyone blaming pc gamers when it was Crytek who leaked a beta full version.:| this is more of a security issue for Crytek/EA since someone on the inside leaked it..

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="FGMPR"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And I have no doubt in my mind that it will still sell several million copies on PC and fail to satisfy Crytek's extreme desire for unit sales, further driving them away from the PC platform due to something that is completely unavoidable (except when they let an employee leak the game to the public, which this most undoubtedly was what happened) and not trying to make more people interested in buying their game (offering a lower retail price to start, or incentives for buying on release day, or anything that gives people more reason to pay).AAllxxjjnn

As far as I'm concerned, Yerli embarrassed himself when he basically accused PC gamers as a bunch of worthless pirates, and a couple of years later was bragging about Crysis sales in a company presentation. He seems to feel as if Crytek have an entitlement to 20 million sales, CoD like. They don't, Crysis 2 will sell well, and if it's total sales on all 3 platforms end up the same as C1's did on just PC, it would have still been a big success.

Why else is C2's multiplayer looking like a POS **** CoD clone instead of improving on power struggle from the original?

Why is everyone blaming pc gamers when it was Crytek who leaked a beta full version.:| this is more of a security issue for Crytek/EA since someone on the inside leaked it..

devious742

[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]I m seeing alot of pc gamer downloading this, you shouldve made the MP beta come out for PC gamers first....How does Karma feels now eh?waltefmoney

That makes no sense. Just because they released the beta on 360 first they deserve all this damage?

[QUOTE="FGMPR"]Certain developers understand this, and that's why your seeing DICE putting the effort required in to make a great selling PC game with BF3. Try and compare what we know about BF3 to EPIC's **** Gears of War PC port.KiZZo1

GeoW port on PC is flawless. You may dislike the game, but there aren't any problems with its PC version.

As someone who plays Gears of War religiously:D GoW has its fair share of problems that haven't been fixed since launch...

Sell outs. The games been dumbed down for consoles anyway so I don't think many PC gamers will be that interested.tenaka2

How do you know that? Did you download a leaked copy? :P

[QUOTE="devious742"]

Why is everyone blaming pc gamers when it was Crytek who leaked a beta full version.:| this is more of a security issue for Crytek/EA since someone on the inside leaked it..

AnnoyedDragon

Some people love any excuse to bash another platform.

I buy all my games and haven't downloaded this leaked beta. But does this matter to them? Hell no. I'm a PC gamer, therefore I must be a filthy pirate and it's all my fault.

I consider this to be flame baiting and approaching the "fanboy wars" area froned upon by moderators. But do they do anything? Hell no...

Early versions of games get sent to review sites, magazines etc. This could have been leaked from a number of sources.tenaka2

Based on all the issues and glitches we hear about regarding this leaked copy, it is not of review build quality.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]Sell outs. The games been dumbed down for consoles anyway so I don't think many PC gamers will be that interested.waltefmoney

How do you know that? Did you download a leaked copy? :P

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]Sell outs. The games been dumbed down for consoles anyway so I don't think many PC gamers will be that interested.waltefmoney

How do you know that? Did you download a leaked copy? :P

And by posting this you're letting more people know about it.Zero5000X

No, just read on here about the reduction of abilities and the simplification of the game for the console market.tenaka2

Well it's never a good idea to base your opinion of a game on system wars posts IMO.