Crysis 2 - Narrowed Down / Main Powers Down from "5" to 2

Really hate it when developers dumb down games for casuals (not consoles themselves).

Really hate it when developers dumb down games for casuals (not consoles themselves).

Vesica_Prime

There´s nothing 'hardcore' about Crysis1. Other than graphics it could have worked on any console and played by any kind of gamer.

To be honest, maximum speed was pretty useless in the first Crysis most of the time. They improved it a bit in Warhead, but I still didn't use it much. Luckily, cloak and maximum strength are the ones I use most. I'm also really excited about the 'vertical' aspect of the open gameplay. I still wonder how it'll turn out, but from what I understand, height is now more relevant, which opens up new options for stealth gameplay (initiating attacks from above etc.). I also hope this means I get to climb skyscrapers. Hubba hubba.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Really hate it when developers dumb down games for casuals (not consoles themselves).

PAL360

There´s nothing 'hardcore' about Crysis1. Other than graphics it could have worked on any console and played by any kind of gamer.

Well the city looks less of a sandbox and more of a linear corridor shooter and they removed armour abilities.

And played by any gamer? Give a Wii Sports playing grandpaCrysis and I'd love to see how he goes with it.

"Blame it on the consoles! It is in no way the developers fault. PC rules forever."

This is what I expect as a typical post in this topic.

Well this follow up is aimed at a different audience, as such they have to keep it simple and extremely casual. The campaign will prob be shortened by a few hours also.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="15strong"]

"Blame it on the consoles! It is in no way the developers fault. PC rules forever."

This is what I expect as a typical post in this topic.

15strong

How about saying it is a sequel with an all new suit. The suit is streamlined so it is better and faster to use. Changes in a sequel, who would have thought of such a thing?

As long as the game delivers on fun then it's all good for me. From what I have seen, I don't think there will be a problem in that regard.

I played it on the 360 during the beta and I didn't think that there was anything in Crysis 1 I couldn't do in Crysis 2. Just had to do it in a different way. Infact it was easier to tie stuff together and really get the most out of the suit.

I guess all of the PC fanboys whining "consolization" should actually shut it and play the game before making those claims.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Really hate it when developers dumb down games for casuals (not consoles themselves).

Vesica_Prime

There´s nothing 'hardcore' about Crysis1. Other than graphics it could have worked on any console and played by any kind of gamer.

Well the city looks less of a sandbox and more of a linear corridor shooter and they removed armour abilities.

And played by any gamer? Give a Wii Sports playing grandpaCrysis and I'd love to see how he goes with it.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

There´s nothing 'hardcore' about Crysis1. Other than graphics it could have worked on any console and played by any kind of gamer.

lightleggy

Well the city looks less of a sandbox and more of a linear corridor shooter and they removed armour abilities.

And played by any gamer? Give a Wii Sports playing grandpaCrysis and I'd love to see how he goes with it.

I played it on the 360 during the beta and I didn't think that there was anything in Crysis 1 I couldn't do in Crysis 2. Just had to do it in a different way. Infact it was easier to tie stuff together and really get the most out of the suit.

I guess all of the PC fanboys whining "consolization" should actually shut it and play the game before making those claims.

Wasdie

Well, so much for everyone's hopes of a non-consolized Crysis 2.

I know this is just me, but why does he keeping spelling cloak as clock lol

Well, so much for everyone's hopes of a non-consolized Crysis 2.

foxhound_fox

IDK the powers seem like a good idea.. Because speed sounded good, but it would have so much cooler if it were automatic with sprints.. Same goes for armor.. Imo it should just been removed inless there were when there were huge explosions at you that it would have you survive from.. And when I think about it, neither it or the expansion really had that..

Well, so much for everyone's hopes of a non-consolized Crysis 2.

foxhound_fox

This quote dashed my hopes even more lol "Crysis 2 is much more driven, a sharpened point to Crysis's slug. The problem with following such a seminal title is the weight of expectation. My advice is to drop that weight, and just enjoy Crysis 2's bumsliding ride."

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Well, so much for everyone's hopes of a non-consolized Crysis 2.

sSubZerOo

IDK the powers seem like a good idea.. Because speed sounded good, but it would have so much cooler if it were automatic with sprints.. Same goes for armor.. Imo it should just been removed inless there were when there were huge explosions at you that it would have you survive from.. And when I think about it, neither it or the expansion really had that..

I played it on the 360 during the beta and I didn't think that there was anything in Crysis 1 I couldn't do in Crysis 2. Just had to do it in a different way. Infact it was easier to tie stuff together and really get the most out of the suit.

I guess all of the PC fanboys whining "consolization" should actually shut it and play the game before making those claims.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Well, so much for everyone's hopes of a non-consolized Crysis 2.

Guppy507

IDK the powers seem like a good idea.. Because speed sounded good, but it would have so much cooler if it were automatic with sprints.. Same goes for armor.. Imo it should just been removed inless there were when there were huge explosions at you that it would have you survive from.. And when I think about it, neither it or the expansion really had that..

[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

IDK the powers seem like a good idea.. Because speed sounded good, but it would have so much cooler if it were automatic with sprints.. Same goes for armor.. Imo it should just been removed inless there were when there were huge explosions at you that it would have you survive from.. And when I think about it, neither it or the expansion really had that..

lightleggy

Obviously this is consolization... but, why?

Sure, you need linear levels because of memory constraints, but why gimp (dumb down) the powers?

Consolers aren't idiots, they can handle 5 powers.

Same deal with ME2. Do devs assume consolers are all morons? Do moronic and dumbed down games sell better?

I love trolling the consoles, but come on, from my time spent here I now see consolers are people too (with brains). WTF are they gimping the options/powers for?

I love the smell of tears in the evening. Smells like... consolization.DarkLink77

Consolization lol.

I laugh at this, that's what happens when a PC exclusive is built with consoles in mind. It becomes limited.

Obviously this is consolization... but, why?

Sure, you need linear levels because of memory constraints, but why gimp (dumb down) the powers?

Consolers aren't idiots, they can handle 5 powers.

Same deal with ME2. Do devs assume consolers are all morons? Do moronic and dumbed down games sell better?

I love trolling the consoles, but come on, from my time spent here I now see consolers are people too (with brains). WTF are they gimping the options/powers for?

haberman13

If pc gamers wouldn't steal their games, maybe devs wouldn't all be flocking to consoles right now... BodyElite

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]I love the smell of tears in the evening. Smells like... consolization.BodyElite

So you mean devs wouldn't bother with a console if there were a ton of pirates? Well now the PS2 must have done horribly last gen :roll:

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Really hate it when developers dumb down games for casuals (not consoles themselves).

There´s nothing 'hardcore' about Crysis1. Other than graphics it could have worked on any console and played by any kind of gamer.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Really hate it when developers dumb down games for casuals (not consoles themselves).

donalbane

There´s nothing 'hardcore' about Crysis1. Other than graphics it could have worked on any console and played by any kind of gamer.

Delta is really freakin' hard. I agree its far harder than your average shooter.

Lol! Im a pc gamer but would hate to be labelled a hermit on this forum....the way they act is hilarious and predictable.... this is not consolisation! This is an intelligent design choice which doesnt change how useful the suit...all the powers are still there ...and the choice to make the game more linear and storybased is one i welcome as long the ability to tackle an objective in multiple different ways is retained which, from reading previews it is!

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I played it on the 360 during the beta and I didn't think that there was anything in Crysis 1 I couldn't do in Crysis 2. Just had to do it in a different way. Infact it was easier to tie stuff together and really get the most out of the suit.

I guess all of the PC fanboys whining "consolization" should actually shut it and play the game before making those claims.

tagyhag

Apparently logic and reasoning don't work at all.

You know who is truly killing PC gaming? The PC gamers thinking that every game to come to the platform needs to be 10x more robust and featured filled than the console counterparts AND be cheaper.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I played it on the 360 during the beta and I didn't think that there was anything in Crysis 1 I couldn't do in Crysis 2. Just had to do it in a different way. Infact it was easier to tie stuff together and really get the most out of the suit.

I guess all of the PC fanboys whining "consolization" should actually shut it and play the game before making those claims.

Apparently logic and reasoning don't work at all.

You know who is truly killing PC gaming? The PC gamers thinking that every game to come to the platform needs to be 10x more robust and featured filled than the console counterparts AND be cheaper.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] You don't understand us PC gamers. :( You're primarily a console gamer.Skittles_McGee

Apparently logic and reasoning don't work at all.

You know who is truly killing PC gaming? The PC gamers thinking that every game to come to the platform needs to be 10x more robust and featured filled than the console counterparts AND be cheaper.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I played it on the 360 during the beta and I didn't think that there was anything in Crysis 1 I couldn't do in Crysis 2. Just had to do it in a different way. Infact it was easier to tie stuff together and really get the most out of the suit.

I guess all of the PC fanboys whining "consolization" should actually shut it and play the game before making those claims.

Wasdie

Apparently logic and reasoning don't work at all.

You know who is truly killing PC gaming? The PC gamers thinking that every game to come to the platform needs to be 10x more robust and featured filled than the console counterparts AND be cheaper.

Nice sarcasm detector. >_>

It's like having 2 children, one with a 9:00 PM curfew (Child A), and another with a 11:00 PM curfew (Child B).

If their mother suddenly made both their curfews to be 9:30, surely Child A would be happy, but Child B would complain, wouldn't you?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] You don't understand us PC gamers. :( You're primarily a console gamer.tagyhag

Apparently logic and reasoning don't work at all.

You know who is truly killing PC gaming? The PC gamers thinking that every game to come to the platform needs to be 10x more robust and featured filled than the console counterparts AND be cheaper.

Nice sarcasm detector. >_>

It's like having 2 children, one with a 9:00 PM curfew (Child A), and another with a 11:00 PM curfew (Child B).

If their mother suddenly made both their curfews to be 9:30, surely Child A would be happy, but Child B would complain, wouldn't you?

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Apparently logic and reasoning don't work at all.

You know who is truly killing PC gaming? The PC gamers thinking that every game to come to the platform needs to be 10x more robust and featured filled than the console counterparts AND be cheaper.

GeneralShowzer

Nice sarcasm detector. >_>

It's like having 2 children, one with a 9:00 PM curfew (Child A), and another with a 11:00 PM curfew (Child B).

If their mother suddenly made both their curfews to be 9:30, surely Child A would be happy, but Child B would complain, wouldn't you?

All they did was combine strengh and speed, which makes perfect sence. Allyou people are just looking for things to cherry pick at.They added a Metroid Prime-esque visor system too. Sounds like additions to me (thermal/scan/combat). Weapon customisation is still there in single player, and the game will most likely still have multiple paths. There you have it, everything that made Crysis different is still there.

OK multiplayer has had loads of major changes, but if its good who cares?

I always thought using the speed was a bit clumsy during combat as you only need it here and there, so having it as sprint is improvement imo. I'm sure it will be somewhat dumbed down (as most sequels) but if that comes with more polish and a more structured campaign I'm fine with that.

Consolization isn't imo a big problem with shooters as they're pretty simple games, as long as the controls are tweaked to suit KB/M, lazy ports are a whole another matter.

I think the changes make sense. More efficient use of powers. The only thing I don't like is that we won't have access to the faster movement speed that speed mode gave us, but the levels in Crysis 2 seem a lot smaller, so I doubt it's a big deal.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Apparently logic and reasoning don't work at all.

You know who is truly killing PC gaming? The PC gamers thinking that every game to come to the platform needs to be 10x more robust and featured filled than the console counterparts AND be cheaper.

GeneralShowzer

Nice sarcasm detector. >_>

It's like having 2 children, one with a 9:00 PM curfew (Child A), and another with a 11:00 PM curfew (Child B).

If their mother suddenly made both their curfews to be 9:30, surely Child A would be happy, but Child B would complain, wouldn't you?