Crysis is overrated because...

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

If Halo 3 had full environmental destructability and something like the nanosuit, they would be. These things directly impact and enhance gameplay. You even leave footprints in the sand, and the Koreans will track them. The game's only comparable to Far Cry in the mission objective structure, and the fact that it takes place on an island.

FrozenLiquid

But they can't think for themselves when they're on a turret and you're just looking at them point blank, right?

Take advantage of the phycis, Nano Suit, AI

It will only feel like Far Cry with better graphics if you play like it.

Lonelynight

Seems like the new catchphrase right now.

Sorry man but I'm not buying that excuse. My opinion though.

This whole thing is kinda reminding me of the whole Doom 3 fiasco, when people got to try it for themselves the first time. The denial from some was pretty funny.

Yes, it's "denial". :lol: Can't be that we actually feel that way, no. The arrogance is astounding. You've failed, in several threads now, to actually rebut the arguments that Crysis is very different than Far Cry. You either stop responding or simply say that you don't buy the argument, and then go on to try to compare to the situation with Halo 2 and Halo 3, or Hl 1 and 2. But never an actual rebuttal.

Then again, you were hating on the game before the demo ever showed up (especially whenever it was compared to Halo or Half-Life), so I guess it's just your agenda showing.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Seems like the new catchphrase right now.

Sorry man but I'm not buying that excuse. My opinion though.

bignice12

I find it to be true in most cases when people complain about game play. If you are not taking advantage of the nano suit( imo, it has different play styles depending on the way you use it) and destructible enviroments then you are pretty much playing your "FC w/ better graphics".

yeah its like sayingi don't likethisgame as it is too easy and play the game on easy

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

And if you can't see it right now, then I can't help you -- but once the demo hit the public, the general concensus about the game has been dropped quite a bit. Perhaps people are putting up a brave front here, but talking to some people via MSN, what they've heard from their friends is the same one reactions I've been getting. It's not the graphics they've been underwhelmed by, it's the gameplay.

Zeliard9

Oh please. You talked to a couple people on MSN and from that you can gather that the general consensus on the game has dropped? Go visit forums like nvnews, the overall reaction to the demo is very positive.

Nup.

I talked to a girl, of which most of you will know can open up guys so easily it ain't funny. In fact, I know some of you here that are completely different towards here than you are here (so yeah, watch out lol).

So all these guys talking to her from whatever forums she visits and just tell her what they really think. About anything. Opinion? It's just another shooter with good graphics.

Mind you, this same girl was accusing me of being biased when I told her yesterday. Now she believes me, coz of all the other people she talked to, and the forums she's seen.

But I don't think forums are the most trustworthy of sources.

You got late teens. Predominantly of the darker gender. All striving for alpha male dominance because it's human nature.

We say the most radical things to gain that prestige.

:lol:

Glitc hspot is on a roll. I edited a post, it cloned it, I delete the clone, it ends up deleting both he clone and the original.

Oh well, did you see that post FrozenLiquid? I wasn't being very nice to you. :D

Yes, it's "denial". :lol: Can't be that we actually feel that way, no. The arrogance is astounding. You've failed, in several threads now, to actually rebut the arguments that Crysis is very different than Far Cry. You either stop responding or simply say that you don't buy the argument, and then go on to try to compare to the situation with Halo 2 and Halo 3, or Hl 1 and 2. But never an actual rebuttal.

Then again, you were hating on the game before the demo ever showed up (especially whenever it was compared to Halo or Half-Life), so I guess it's just your agenda showing.

Zeliard9

I've always thought it was another shooter with just good graphics mate. And then you guys hype me up and then I fall for it, and here we go again back to square one.

I've failed? Where have I failed?

I've stopped responding? Sorry that I'm not on these forums 24/7 to cater to everyone's needs. Instead of pressing the refresh button on the first SW page when I have nothing to reply to, there's the laundry to be washed, my siblings to take care of, and work to be done. And currently, I'm in the process of moving house. Excuse me if I miss your reply. But I can say right now: System Wars is very low priority all things considered.

And yeah, I am arrogant. Did you not notice from the way I type, perhaps if you read my blogs, etc? It's part of my personality. Oh well, it gets me places.

Nup.

I talked to a girl, of which most of you will know can open up guys so easily it ain't funny. In fact, I know some of you here that are completely different towards here than you are here (so yeah, watch out lol).

So all these guys talking to her from whatever forums she visits and just tell her what they really think. About anything. Opinion? It's just another shooter with good graphics.

Mind you, this same girl was accusing me of being biased when I told her yesterday. Now she believes me, coz of all the other people she talked to, and the forums she's seen.

But I don't think forums are the most trustworthy of sources.

You got late teens. Predominantly of the darker gender. All striving for alpha male dominance because it's human nature.

We say the most radical things to gain that prestige.

FrozenLiquid

Hearing what a friend said that she saw really isn't a good way to find out how most people feel about the game.

Your right, i have a PC that can max out anything in the orange box(anything off steam for that matter), can max out UT3, but can only play crysis on med settings. Sure i was disapointed but than i played the game! My god it made me want to upgrade as soon as possible. Ive never been so impressed by a demo in my life. It was fun, addiciting, and i didnt even play it on high.

Crysis is more than graphics. Its gameplay is better than its graphics in my opinion. So fricken fun.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]most people that play console games...dont play them on HDTV's either.....FantasySports00

True.. but I'm just saying man..Plus as the costs for HD TVs go down..

Playing on a high end PC will always stay at a high price cause the technology gets newer.

So standard 720p HD TVs don't cost that much anymore since the technology as new..You can get a 20 Inch HD TV for around 200-300 bucks now(same size as a PC monitor)

The Hermit Defense has been throwing No-Hitters lately. Every one of these Anti-Crysis threads just makes the console factions on these forums look more and more pathetic.

The PC turns all the fundamental Console logic into a talespin.

360 and PS3 owners constantly argue about graphics yet PC reigns supreme.

360 and PS3 owners constantly argue about online yet PC reigns supreme.

Yet now Crysis graphics are overrated and the game is as well yet even knowing that games like Halo 3 and The Orange Box scored 9.5 and they still stick to their sad exuses of hate.

Some of you guys (not all) should be ashamed of yourselves.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

Yes, it's "denial". :lol: Can't be that we actually feel that way, no. The arrogance is astounding. You've failed, in several threads now, to actually rebut the arguments that Crysis is very different than Far Cry. You either stop responding or simply say that you don't buy the argument, and then go on to try to compare to the situation with Halo 2 and Halo 3, or Hl 1 and 2. But never an actual rebuttal.

Then again, you were hating on the game before the demo ever showed up (especially whenever it was compared to Halo or Half-Life), so I guess it's just your agenda showing.

FrozenLiquid

I've always thought it was another shooter with just good graphics mate. And then you guys hype me up and then I fall for it, and here we go again back to square one.

I've failed? Where have I failed?

I've stopped responding? Sorry that I'm not on these forums 24/7 to cater to everyone's needs. Instead of pressing the refresh button on the first SW page when I have nothing to reply to, there's the laundry to be washed, my siblings to take care of, and work to be done. And currently, I'm in the process of moving house. Excuse me if I miss your reply. But I can say right now: System Wars is very low priority all things considered.

And yeah, I am arrogant. Did you not notice from the way I type, perhaps if you read my blogs, etc? It's part of my personality. Oh well, it gets me places.

I just think you're giving Crysis a bad shake. I think you had something against it even before booting up the demo. In fact I remember you said you were still downloading it but had heard from "people" that the gameplay and AI are dissappointing, so maybe you were already predisposed to casting an overly critical eye instead of just having fun with it. And I *do* recall that that you were never exactly that big on Crysis, having criticized it plenty in the past.

To be honest, I actually don't care much what people have to say about the game (opinions are opinions), except when they call it "just another Far Cry". That notion in particular ruffles my feathers because my personal experience with Crysis has been MASSIVELY different from Far Cry.

I think you had something against it even before booting up the demo.

Zeliard9

He probably did imo.

You're kidding.

In the beginning, Crysis was put on the pedestal as the next best thing since the original Half Life. Also, funnily enough, Far Cry started getting some praise.

As more info started coming out, like Power Struggle and how it actually works and stuff, the "Best FPS ever" tag dropped because there were some comparable efforts that most people could come to conclusions about.

And if you can't see it right now, then I can't help you -- but once the demo hit the public, the general concensus about the game has been dropped quite a bit. Perhaps people are putting up a brave front here, but talking to some people via MSN, what they've heard from their friends is the same one reactions I've been getting. It's not the graphics they've been underwhelmed by, it's the gameplay.

The game is fun and all, but I'd rather be playing the Orange Box than spend the 12 gigs on my harddrive on Crysis from my impressions.

And OMG FakeFactory has started on the Episode 2 conversion!!!!!!

Wahoo!!!!!!

FrozenLiquid

As for it being the best FPS ever, well im not jumping to conclusions, but it could most defitnaly be the best non linear FPS (even if it has linear missio progression).

And ive been reading the opposite reaction since the demo hit. Most people seem to be enjoying the game, then critising it. I dont think your MSN friends = PC gamers, otherwise I could just as easily say my friends think the game is better than what they expected, which is true.

And never the less your opinion is your opinion.
Im going to wait for a range of reviews to come out before I make rash judgements, as ive learnt my lesson after the whole Halo 3 fiasco . Another reason why im not going to hype Crysis like crazy, as the retail game could dissapoint me - but then again the opposite could just as easily happen.

As for fake Factory mods, sounds very cool, though ive never been unsatisfied of HL2s textures, in contrast to Oblivion (which needed texture mods).

most people that play console games...dont play them on HDTV's either.....cobrax25

The Hermit Defense has been throwing No-Hitters lately. Every one of these Anti-Crysis threads just makes the console factions on these forums look more and more pathetic.

The PC turns all the fundamental Console logic into a talespin.

360 and PS3 owners constantly argue about graphics yet PC reigns supreme.

360 and PS3 owners constantly argue about online yet PC reigns supreme.

Yet now Crysis graphics are overrated and the game is as well yet even knowing that games like Halo 3 and The Orange Box scored 9.5 and they still stick to their sad exuses of hate.

Some of you guys (not all) should be ashamed of yourselves.

Blackbond

My favorite game of all time scored 8.9 here. My favorite IPs are all pretty much on consoles, many of them exclusively on consoles. At least to me, that simple reality > all statistics you can throw at me. It is possible to play games on all platforms and still prefer console IPs ya know, it's not illigal or anything.:P

This is the case for many a console gamer. There are people who play PC games(not exclusively) and who can easily afford a state-of-the-art rig but don't. Instead just being content with their slightly dated but still functional PC rig. It's the same reason I don't have an HDTV, I just have'nt thought it necessary.

Anyway, not ranting at you persay, just in general.:P

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

The Hermit Defense has been throwing No-Hitters lately. Every one of these Anti-Crysis threads just makes the console factions on these forums look more and more pathetic.

The PC turns all the fundamental Console logic into a talespin.

360 and PS3 owners constantly argue about graphics yet PC reigns supreme.

360 and PS3 owners constantly argue about online yet PC reigns supreme.

Yet now Crysis graphics are overrated and the game is as well yet even knowing that games like Halo 3 and The Orange Box scored 9.5 and they still stick to their sad exuses of hate.

Some of you guys (not all) should be ashamed of yourselves.

Spartan070

Actually those statistics are always thrown up in response to console fanboy 'Pc has no good games' or 'Pc only has FPS and RTS games', so in a nutshel it is console fanboys who are to blame.

My favorite game of all time scored 8.9 here. My favorite IPs are all pretty much on consoles, many of them exclusively on consoles. At least to me, that simple reality > all statistics you can throw at me. It is possible to play games on all platforms and still prefer console IPs ya know, it's not illigal or anything.:P

Everyone has their own personal preferance, and indeed there is no problem with that. Im not about to shove PC properganda down your throat, simply because you rather your 360. It is usually the PC bashers who receive the short end of the stick.

This is the case for many a console gamer. There are people who play PC games(not exclusively) and who can easily afford a state-of-the-art rig but don't. Instead just being content with their slightly dated but still functional PC rig. It's the same reason I don't have an HDTV, I just have'nt thought it necessary.

Well look at me, and my rig. Im still on a X850pro, and im loving all the recent titles that have come out (though I dont have the Crysis demo - thanks to download caps). You dont need to have a high end rig to enjoy PC titles. Hell this is comming from someone who bought WiC CE - $105 AUD - without flinching - a game that is praised for its visuals.

Anyway, not ranting at you persay, just in general.:P

Anyways I think Black Bond has posted probably the most well informed and intelligent summary of the fanboy activity raping System Wars right now.

Full of thruthfull-ness.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

The one thing that PC gamers always brag about that is kind of redundant in terms of choosing a system is number of AA/AAAs. That's because not all AA/AAAs are considered so by all potential buyers. Yes it's great for SW bragging rights but other than that it's practically irrelevent.skrat_01

Actually those statistics are always thrown up in response to console fanboy 'Pc has no good games' or 'Pc only has FPS and RTS games', so in a nutshel it is console fanboys who are to blame.

Not always, not nearly as often as hermits always say. PC gamers start console bashing threads daily, it's just that later on the higher level hermits will come out and say "that guy wasn't speaking for all of us." Nevertheless, it happens all the time, I have no idea why hermits always turn a blind eye to this.

Just two days ago an entire thread was started just to brag about one Crysis screenshot, no caption or anything. Just "here's Crysis, consoles pwned.":| (paraphrased with great accuracy)

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

The one thing that PC gamers always brag about that is kind of redundant in terms of choosing a system is number of AA/AAAs. That's because not all AA/AAAs are considered so by all potential buyers. Yes it's great for SW bragging rights but other than that it's practically irrelevent.Spartan070

Actually those statistics are always thrown up in response to console fanboy 'Pc has no good games' or 'Pc only has FPS and RTS games', so in a nutshel it is console fanboys who are to blame.

Not always, not nearly as often as hermits always say. PC gamers start console bashing threads daily, it's just that later on the higher level hermits will come out and say "that guy wasn't speaking for all of us." Nevertheless, it happens all the time, I have no idea why hermits always turn a blind eye to this.

Just two days ago an entire thread was started just to brag about one Crysis screenshot, no caption or anything. Just "here's Crysis, consoles pwned.":| (paraphrased with great accuracy)

But as today has shown, there are alot more console fanboys out there, who push even more to provoke reactions.
Just taking a look at all the SW pages pretty much confirms that.

There is much more PC hate going around, than fanboy PC ignorance. MUCH more.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

The one thing that PC gamers always brag about that is kind of redundant in terms of choosing a system is number of AA/AAAs. That's because not all AA/AAAs are considered so by all potential buyers. Yes it's great for SW bragging rights but other than that it's practically irrelevent.skrat_01

Actually those statistics are always thrown up in response to console fanboy 'Pc has no good games' or 'Pc only has FPS and RTS games', so in a nutshel it is console fanboys who are to blame.

Not always, not nearly as often as hermits always say. PC gamers start console bashing threads daily, it's just that later on the higher level hermits will come out and say "that guy wasn't speaking for all of us." Nevertheless, it happens all the time, I have no idea why hermits always turn a blind eye to this.

Just two days ago an entire thread was started just to brag about one Crysis screenshot, no caption or anything. Just "here's Crysis, consoles pwned.":| (paraphrased with great accuracy)

But as today has shown, there are alot more console fanboys out there, who push even more to provoke reactions.
Just taking a look at all the SW pages pretty much confirms that.

There is much more PC hate going around, than fanboy PC ignorance. MUCH more.

Indeed there are fanboy hermits out there, i cant disagree about that.

But as today has shown, there are alot more console fanboys out there, who push even more to provoke reactions.
Just taking a look at all the SW pages pretty much confirms that.

There is much more PC hate going around, than fanboy PC ignorance. MUCH more.

skrat_01

The two bolded statement couldn't be any more true, agreed 110%.

Because it's Far Cry with better graphics. Wasn't exactly leaps and bounds ahead of anything in the gameplay department.FrozenLiquid

It's not Far Cry with better graphics.

Too many people are swayed by their poor performance, I had everything on high and it run as smooth as butter, in my opinion it's in a league of it's own this year. gingerdivid

so people shouldnt judge a game by their own experience?

Crysis is overrated because

Most people that play PC games can't play it on max settings..

A huge chunk of PC gamers wont even be able to play the game on medium settings..

so basically.. for most people.. this game looks no better than a great looking Xbox 360 game..

FantasySports00

but 90% will be able to have physics 20x better than any 360/ps3 game this year and way better ai. there is more to cryisis than graphics you know. the nano suit alone makes it a awesome game.

Its overrated because you can't play it on consoles

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]most people that play console games...dont play them on HDTV's either.....FantasySports00

True.. but I'm just saying man..Plus as the costs for HD TVs go down..

Playing on a high end PC will always stay at a high price cause the technology gets newer.

So standard 720p HD TVs don't cost that much anymore since the technology as new..You can get a 20 Inch HD TV for around 200-300 bucks now(same size as a PC monitor)

and the cost of pc hardware goes down much much faster. the 8800gt is out soon and is almost as fast as the 8800gtx for a fraction of the price and is way more powerful than any console

so doing the math..

Xbox 360 + 20 inch HD TV= around 600 dollars

Running Crysis at full settings= double or even triple..

FantasySports00

then how come I can run it at medium and $200 for a 8800gt it would be max?

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Too many people are swayed by their poor performance, I had everything on high and it run as smooth as butter, in my opinion it's in a league of it's own this year. marklarmer

so people shouldnt judge a game by their own experience?

The only complaints you see are mainly about peoples relative performance, let's face it; if the game dosen't perform well it will tarnish your experience. So really, is it fair to judge a game without being to run it properly? It isn't, which was my point. (still baffled on how that spawned such a ridiculous response).

I'm sure Crytek will optimise it in due course.

Because it's Far Cry with better graphics. Wasn't exactly leaps and bounds ahead of anything in the gameplay department.FrozenLiquid

and the best physics and ai to date and even on med it looks better than and console game, halo3 is halo2 in 640p

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Too many people are swayed by their poor performance, I had everything on high and it run as smooth as butter, in my opinion it's in a league of it's own this year. marklarmer

so people shouldnt judge a game by their own experience?

To call a game mediocre because you had trouble running a demo is a tad shortsighted, yes.

Having played Crysis (demo)on medium settings and low i can easily say that on low settings it's a match for any 360 game, and on medium it far exceeds anything on a console, that and the gameplay is wicked, much more innovative then any console crap I've played recently (be it halo 3 or gears).

my question to you whotry to insultit is: have you actually played it?

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Because it's Far Cry with better graphics. Wasn't exactly leaps and bounds ahead of anything in the gameplay department.bignice12

Heck no. The destructible enviroments alone provide a much better game play experience than far cry. Have you driven a jeep into a building then threw a grenade into the building with NK in it? it is amazing, so many things you can do that you couldn't in Far Cry. It is defintely not FC with better graphics.

so true I could care less if it looked like farcry but those physics make it so much better, where else can you throw grendaes and sent thing falling down or shoot trees over or have those really smart enimies or have all those awesome nano suit abilites?

The day a PC game has decent gameplay value (thats not a MMO) is the day I say PC gaming is Superior to console gaming.

As for Crysis,meh already to many FPS out this fall and 08 is also full of em.

[QUOTE="Olidsc"][QUOTE="FantasySports00"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]most people that play console games...dont play them on HDTV's either.....FantasySports00

True.. but I'm just saying man..Plus as the costs for HD TVs go down..

Playing on a high end PC will always stay at a high price cause the technology gets newer.

So standard 720p HD TVs don't cost that much anymore since the technology as new..You can get a 20 Inch HD TV for around 200-300 bucks now(same size as a PC monitor)

Yeah, but the price of the hardware it takes to run Crysis will drop in price *much* faster than that of HDTV's, so what's your point with that post? That the same technology drops in price overtime as newer things come along? I didn't need you to tell me that.

No but that fails because HD TV costs are already at a plasauble prise.. To run crysis at max it's going to take a while for it to come down in price.

you relise the 8800gt will be out by the time crysis is out and will be able to max it out for only $200? that's far cheaper than any half decent hdtv

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Too many people are swayed by their poor performance, I had everything on high and it run as smooth as butter, in my opinion it's in a league of it's own this year. Danm_999

so people shouldnt judge a game by their own experience?

To call a game mediocre because you had trouble running a demo is a tad shortsighted, yes.

where did i say it was mediocre?

hermits basically have a serious issue with ignoring major FACTS, people cant play crysis on maximumsettings, so what? are they supposed to judge the game off screenshotsor just how great hermits say it is?

The day a PC game has decent gameplay value (thats not a MMO) is the day I say PC gaming is Superior to console gaming.

As for Crysis,meh already to many FPS out this fall and 08 is also full of em.

Ballroompirate

That day came many years ago.

Seriously, there are arguments you can make to say you prefer console gaming, but gameplay value isn't one of them. The PC has had integrated online, immense replayability and a strong emphasis on user created content for years.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

indeed I should list Half life, as HL2 is fundementally the same.

just didnt come to mind as typing.

12gb woho, a whole $3 worth of hdd space and the orange box is just about as much, you are just a x360 fan that is jelose cause you can't play it

However I can say now that Half Life was an absolute revolution

As was Operation Flashpoint

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No oner pitched Crysis as the ultimate revolutionary FPS, just like no one did so with Halo 3 (exept for the fanboys who thought video replays and forge were revolutionary).

Crysis's fundementals are the same as Far Crys, though it is quite different in many regards - though yes that is just the same as the other titles.

I will say that certain games do change more than others. Like Halo 3 is almost identical to Halo 2, in comparison to Crysis and Far Cry, which has changed moreso - but both are fundementally the same.

FrozenLiquid

You're kidding.

In the beginning, Crysis was put on the pedestal as the next best thing since the original Half Life. Also, funnily enough, Far Cry started getting some praise.

As more info started coming out, like Power Struggle and how it actually works and stuff, the "Best FPS ever" tag dropped because there were some comparable efforts that most people could come to conclusions about.

And if you can't see it right now, then I can't help you -- but once the demo hit the public, the general concensus about the game has been dropped quite a bit. Perhaps people are putting up a brave front here, but talking to some people via MSN, what they've heard from their friends is the same one reactions I've been getting. It's not the graphics they've been underwhelmed by, it's the gameplay.

The game is fun and all, but I'd rather be playing the Orange Box than spend the 12 gigs on my harddrive on Crysis from my impressions.

And OMG FakeFactory has started on the Episode 2 conversion!!!!!!

Wahoo!!!!!!

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Because it's Far Cry with better graphics. Wasn't exactly leaps and bounds ahead of anything in the gameplay department.imprezawrx500

and the best physics and ai to date and even on med it looks better than and console game, halo3 is halo2 in 640p

Yep. So it's incredible A.I when theimmensly accurate machine gunner on the boat can snipe you from afar, whilst his comrades on the beach look idiotically at him like they don't know what he's shooting at. Then when you potshot them, they run around like a bunch of loons, only to stand back at their posts like nothing has happened.

That happened on Delta five minutes ago.

I'm seriously going to wash my hands of this Crysis debate. My final say will be on my blog.

I think I know why everyone here says its overrated. Because its not on x360. If it was on 360 it suddenly wouldn't be overrated.imprezawrx500

Using the 360 controller,

It's so bad it hurts.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Too many people are swayed by their poor performance, I had everything on high and it run as smooth as butter, in my opinion it's in a league of it's own this year. marklarmer

so people shouldnt judge a game by their own experience?

To call a game mediocre because you had trouble running a demo is a tad shortsighted, yes.

where did i say it was mediocre?

hermits basically have a serious issue with ignoring major FACTS, people cant play crysis on maximumsettings, so what? are they supposed to judge the game off screenshotsor just how great hermits say it is?

You? Nowhere, I'm echoing some other comments I've seen.

I'm not saying their supposed to judge a game based on what Hermits say, I'm saying they shouldn't judge a game because they can't play it (for example, a poster was complaining he couldn't play and that he didn't know his PC specs).

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Because it's Far Cry with better graphics. Wasn't exactly leaps and bounds ahead of anything in the gameplay department.FrozenLiquid

and the best physics and ai to date and even on med it looks better than and console game, halo3 is halo2 in 640p

Yep. So it's incredible A.I when theimmensly accurate machine gunner on the boat can snipe you from afar, whilst his comrades on the beach look idiotically at him like they don't know what he's shooting at. Then when you potshot them, they run around like a bunch of loons, only to stand back at their posts like nothing has happened.

That happened on Delta five minutes ago.

I'm seriously going to wash my hands of this Crysis debate. My final say will be on my blog.

Still this is a demo non the less, and plenty of bugs have been found aswell.

Actually FrozenLiquid, if Crysis is Far Cry 1.5, then what does that make Halo 2 and 3?

In all seriousness.

Crysis is overrated because

Most people that play PC games can't play it on max settings..

A huge chunk of PC gamers wont even be able to play the game on medium settings..

so basically.. for most people.. this game looks no better than a great looking Xbox 360 game..

FantasySports00

I'm running Crysis on max settings using two and half year old CPU (Athlon 3800+ X2), two and half year old RAM (2 gigs of Corsair XMS CL3) and 8800 GTX. All hooked up to 22 inched Samsung LCD.

With the latest beta drivers I get around 35 frames per second, which is pretty playable.

So, if you take all those hardware prices cuts... you end up with a pretty cheap righ which can run Crysis on max.

Get informed.

Unfortunaly in the a.i department Halo 3 isnt pulling any punches either........ Or HL2 (minus the hunters).

Still this is a demo non the less, and plenty of bugs have been found aswell.

skrat_01

You're meant to say Halo is pulling punches. If it wasn't pulling punches it'd be a total knockout.

But hey, at least the Grunts flank on Legendary. What do our resourceful Koreans do? Decide after awhile the threat is gone and they can safely go back to their posts.

Besides, I can admit Halo 3's flaws. Second, why Halo came into the argument this much is beyond me.

Halo 2 and 3 are sequels to Halo: CE. Bungie never stated they wanted to make the one game to rule all FPSs for years to come -- just to expand upon each successive release. They don't go round pointing their nose up at other developers and laugh at the state of their other games. In fact they embrace them.

I'm sorry but people somehow forgot how Crysis was being hyped. Now everyone's telling me they never thought it'd be revolutionary in the first place.

I should've kept tabs on quotes people have said in the past. That's how their silliness bit them in the ass when ownage time came. That was three years ago. Just don't have time to do it anymore.

But honestly, I really want to stop discussing Crysis with people. One guy posted a pic of Jake Dunn's reflectivevisor with the caption: Bungie, take note. I respect him, but it was an incredibly stupid comment to make considering the resources of both games.

But yeah that's a concise of summation of the vibes I'm getting right now. Like the lemmings trying to convince Halo 2's campaign was the best there ever was back in 2004. Now that they're emotionally unnattached to it, they can see for what it really is. Back then though, it was pretty damn annoying.

I'm going on when I really don't want to. Sorry, but I'm finished with it.