Crysis is overrated because...

One guy posted a pic of Jake Dunn's reflectivevisor with the caption: Bungie, take note. I respect him, but it was an incredibly stupid comment to make considering the resources of both games.

FrozenLiquid

:lol:

Good lord, man, that was a light-hearted jab at Bungie stating that Master Chief's visor would have real-time reflection. Don't you scour the net for anything Halo? You should've realized that. You're letting all these "vibes" and bluster get you all worked up and keep you from possibly enjoying the game.

Earlier you brought up a quote by Cevat Yerli where he said in an interview that console shooters are years back, and you were upset that he'd said that. I know you're really big on consoles, but why do you let so many outside factors influence you? This just goes back to my earlier point, that you hated the Crysis demo before even trying it. Countless statements from you in the past and in the past couple days have insinuated as much.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

One guy posted a pic of Jake Dunn's reflectivevisor with the caption: Bungie, take note. I respect him, but it was an incredibly stupid comment to make considering the resources of both games.

Zeliard9

:lol:

Good lord, man, that was a light-hearted jab at Bungie stating that Master Chief's visor would have real-time reflection. Don't you scour the net for anything Halo? You should've realized that. You're letting all these "vibes" and bluster get you all worked up and keep you from possibly enjoying the game.

Earlier you brought up a quote by Cevat Yerli where he said in an interview that console shooters are years back, and you were upset that he'd said that. Why do you let so many outside factors influence you? This just goes back to my earlier point, that you hated the Crysis demo before even trying it. Countless statements from you in the past and in the past couple days have insinuated as much.

I mean calling Crysis 'Far Cry 1.5' - that isnt doing much for you......... I know you know better than to say ridiculously stupid things like that. Especially as a person who was pretty aggressive when people called Halo 3 - halo 2.5.....

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

One guy posted a pic of Jake Dunn's reflectivevisor with the caption: Bungie, take note. I respect him, but it was an incredibly stupid comment to make considering the resources of both games.

skrat_01

:lol:

Good lord, man, that was a light-hearted jab at Bungie stating that Master Chief's visor would have real-time reflection. Don't you scour the net for anything Halo? You should've realized that. You're letting all these "vibes" and bluster get you all worked up and keep you from possibly enjoying the game.

Earlier you brought up a quote by Cevat Yerli where he said in an interview that console shooters are years back, and you were upset that he'd said that. Why do you let so many outside factors influence you? This just goes back to my earlier point, that you hated the Crysis demo before even trying it. Countless statements from you in the past and in the past couple days have insinuated as much.

I mean calling Crysis 'Far Cry 1.5' - that isnt doing much for you......... I know you know better than to say ridiculously stupid things like that. Especially as a person who was pretty aggressive when people called Halo 3 - halo 2.5.....

/agree. Frozen does seem to have a hostile attitude towards Crysis even before he launched the demo. I dont know if I missed it but he still hasn't defended his arguement that Crysis is FC w/ better graphics after we proved him wrong.

y Halo is pulling punches. If it wasn't pulling punches it'd be a total knockout.

But hey, at least the Grunts flank on Legendary. What do our resourceful Koreans do? Decide after awhile the threat is gone and they can safely go back to their posts.

Besides, I can admit Halo 3's flaws. Second, why Halo came into the argument this much is beyond me.

Halo 2 and 3 are sequels to Halo: CE. Bungie never stated they wanted to make the one game to rule all FPSs for years to come -- just to expand upon each successive release. They don't go round pointing their nose up at other developers and laugh at the state of their other games. In fact they embrace them.

I'm sorry but people somehow forgot how Crysis was being hyped. Now everyone's telling me they never thought it'd be revolutionary in the first place.

I should've kept tabs on quotes people have said in the past. That's how their silliness bit them in the ass when ownage time came. That was three years ago. Just don't have time to do it anymore.

But honestly, I really want to stop discussing Crysis with people. One guy posted a pic of Jake Dunn's reflectivevisor with the caption: Bungie, take note. I respect him, but it was an incredibly stupid comment to make considering the resources of both games.

But yeah that's a concise of summation of the vibes I'm getting right now. Like the lemmings trying to convince Halo 2's campaign was the best there ever was back in 2004. Now that they're emotionally unnattached to it, they can see for what it really is. Back then though, it was pretty damn annoying.

I'm going on when I really don't want to. Sorry, but I'm finished with it.

FrozenLiquid

And Halo 3s a.i in particular was a letdown - in comparison to how good Halo CEs were. I could go into detail of the amount of flaws in the a.i, but you have played the game yourself, so im sure you are aware of them.

As for Crysis's im sure it has its flaws, but you are judging the game on a pre release demo. The game hasent even gone gold yet.

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and what is with all this garble about Halo? So what about Bungie? I dont see valve or crytek parading their game around as the the best FPSs............ So I dont see where your comment even came from.......

And people were hyping Crysis, just like all other games are Hyped. Yes people said it would be revolutionary, and it is in a few regards......... People were saying Halo 3 was going to be revolutionary..... What gives?

Sigh I think your are getting embroiled in your own anger, or frustration.

If you dont like it that is fine, but you even seem to be shifting from constructive critic, to random basher. Which could pretty much puts you on par with the other bashers....... Not nice at all.

*anyways ive gotta get back to watching Downfall - damn awesome film that it*

my $1200 system is laughing right about now. pic from my game, and i get 40-60fps :).

THose who bag it are hte ones who can't play it, and it really sucks to be them.

my $1200 system is laughing right about now. pic from my game, and i get 40-60fps :).

THose who bag it are hte ones who can't play it, and it really sucks to be them.

Ospi

Ah and what video card do have per chance? 8800GTX?

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

One guy posted a pic of Jake Dunn's reflectivevisor with the caption: Bungie, take note. I respect him, but it was an incredibly stupid comment to make considering the resources of both games.

Zeliard9

:lol:

Good lord, man, that was a light-hearted jab at Bungie stating that Master Chief's visor would have real-time reflection. Don't you scour the net for anything Halo? You should've realized that. You're letting all these "vibes" and bluster get you all worked up and keep you from possibly enjoying the game.

Earlier you brought up a quote by Cevat Yerli where he said in an interview that console shooters are years back, and you were upset that he'd said that. Why do you let so many outside factors influence you? This just goes back to my earlier point, that you hated the Crysis demo before even trying it. Countless statements from you in the past and in the past couple days have insinuated as much.

You actually think there are factors outside that influence me? You gotta be kidding.

If I was influenced by outside factors, I'd be happy with more popular PC games than the obscure adventure games.

If I was influenced by outside factors, I would've agreed with the opinion that Halo 3 was underwhelming by most statements.

If I was influenced by outside factors, I'd still be buying into the Crysis hype.

Also, if you think I get upset by things as measly as this, you got me wrong dude. Completely wrong. Considering I didn't care less when my sister was about to be thrown into foster care for being a troubled kid, I don't think some game designer halfway across the world is going to get me all riled up about something I couldn't care less about.

As for the Halo 3 real time reflection -- it seems to be realtime in SP, whilst MP is obviously cube-mapped. Instead of searching third party info about Halo 3 (most of googles results are talking about the Beta), I mess around on Saved Films on the 360. Not sure if the visor reflects all objects, but it maps the environment in real time, just like that pic in Crysis showed that much of.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Unfortunaly in the a.i department Halo 3 isnt pulling any punches either........ Or HL2 (minus the hunters).

Still this is a demo non the less, and plenty of bugs have been found aswell.

FrozenLiquid

You're meant to say Halo is pulling punches. If it wasn't pulling punches it'd be a total knockout.

But hey, at least the Grunts flank on Legendary. What do our resourceful Koreans do? Decide after awhile the threat is gone and they can safely go back to their posts.

Besides, I can admit Halo 3's flaws. Second, why Halo came into the argument this much is beyond me.

Halo 2 and 3 are sequels to Halo: CE. Bungie never stated they wanted to make the one game to rule all FPSs for years to come -- just to expand upon each successive release. They don't go round pointing their nose up at other developers and laugh at the state of their other games. In fact they embrace them.

I'm sorry but people somehow forgot how Crysis was being hyped. Now everyone's telling me they never thought it'd be revolutionary in the first place.

I should've kept tabs on quotes people have said in the past. That's how their silliness bit them in the ass when ownage time came. That was three years ago. Just don't have time to do it anymore.

But honestly, I really want to stop discussing Crysis with people. One guy posted a pic of Jake Dunn's reflectivevisor with the caption: Bungie, take note. I respect him, but it was an incredibly stupid comment to make considering the resources of both games.

But yeah that's a concise of summation of the vibes I'm getting right now. Like the lemmings trying to convince Halo 2's campaign was the best there ever was back in 2004. Now that they're emotionally unnattached to it, they can see for what it really is. Back then though, it was pretty damn annoying.

I'm going on when I really don't want to. Sorry, but I'm finished with it.

GS said that the A.I. is great

my $1200 system is laughing right about now. pic from my game, and i get 40-60fps :).

(pic)

THose who bag it are hte ones who can't play it, and it really sucks to be them.

Ospi

Wow what's your setup dude? That's pretty impressive framerates you got there.

By the way can you post another pic please, coz Jester pretty much looks the same in all settings. Kinda jarring effect when the environment is crap and he looks good lol.

I liked the look of Very High with 16xAA. Boy that looked frickin' awesome. But it was completely unplayable.

GS said that the A.I. is great

Lonelynight

GameSpot says a lot of things.

[QUOTE="FantasySports00"]

Crysis is overrated because

Most people that play PC games can't play it on max settings..

A huge chunk of PC gamers wont even be able to play the game on medium settings..

so basically.. for most people.. this game looks no better than a great looking Xbox 360 game..

white45e

i have to disagree. i have e6600,8800gts and i can only run it at medium and i think it looks like crap and doesnt even compare graphicly to any ps3,360 game at medium.

No you don't. All you've been doing is bashing Crysis. So please, just stop lying. The game looks better than any game currently out at medium settings in DX10.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

GS said that the A.I. is great

FrozenLiquid

GameSpot says a lot of things.

AI imo has it's problems, they do things that make you roll your eyes before ending their confusing daze in a blaze of bullets. as for environment shot, here ya go. i get approx 30-40 fps when looking at the scenery like this, if i drop the shaders to medium im sure that will improve. also have room to OC my gfx card and cpu which will improve stuff even more.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

GS said that the A.I. is great

gingerdivid

GameSpot says a lot of things.

Play it on Delta. The AI gets much better and more agressive. It's not like others games AI settings that just increase the amount of damage done and amount health you have. The AI is better than FEAR's.

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

GS said that the A.I. is great

trix5817

GameSpot says a lot of things.

Play it on Delta. The AI gets much better and more agressive. It's not like others games AI settings that just increase the amount of damage done and amount health you have. The AI is better than FEAR's.

Although, despite the nitpicking it's easily one of the best games I've played all year. It actually exceeded my expectations.

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

GS said that the A.I. is great

trix5817

GameSpot says a lot of things.

Play it on Delta. The AI gets much better and more agressive. It's not like others games AI settings that just increase the amount of damage done and amount health you have. The AI is better than FEAR's.

Disagreed.

The A.I is rubbish.

I admit, I died quite a few times but it's because of that extremely annoying machine gun sniper on the boat. Even so, whilst he was shooting at me, the idiots on the beach were looking at theopposite direction to where the sniper was shooting at me from. And I killed one of the guys that was paired up with another, and of course the other ran away. A few minutes later, the fool comes back and stands guard once again like nothing happened.......and then the machine gun sniper came my way again.

The damage is just increased alot IMO. Whereas in normal I could take a few good hits from a few soldiers, one soldier bravely decided to come up to find me and he took my armour down to nil, and half my health in just over a second.

And don't get me started on that machine gun sniper. Damn, why is his machine gun more accurate than my rifle? Assault Rifles were made to be the bridge between the superbly accurate M1 Garand and the close range Thompson. Yet this guy somehow gets me behind all this foliage and hundreds of metres away like he's special or something.

In that case, I'll try it. I played it on hard, even then it was a challenge (slight understatement). For the most part, the A.I was brilliant, I like how they gradually surround you, they force you to keep moving. Although there was a few obscure examples were I would kill one enemy who was nearby another, he would look at the body, then after a few seconds he was acting like nothing happened.

Although, despite the nitpicking it's easily one of the best games I've played all year. It actually exceeded my expectations.

gingerdivid

Haven't tried Hard yet.

Hope it's challenging but fair.

-mumble grumble- Machine gunner -mumble grumble- lol.

I hate him!

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

GS said that the A.I. is great

trix5817

GameSpot says a lot of things.

Play it on Delta. The AI gets much better and more agressive. It's not like others games AI settings that just increase the amount of damage done and amount health you have. The AI is better than FEAR's.

I think people are missing the point.

A lot of gamers seem to think that Difficult A.I = Good A.I. When in fact it should be Realistic A.I = Good A.I. FEAR'S A.I is superb, even up to today. But in terms of scope and realism, Crysis has it beat.

FEAR's engine allowed the A.I to move and react in close-quarters combat. Crysis, however, has to calculate the A.I on an ENTIRE ISLAND. Surely, the A.I wasn't the most badass mofos on the planet, but would you be if you were up against a black-suited asskicker from HELL?

I mean, the A.I have conversations, do chores, takes a piss, patrol, all aside from trying to kill you. So I nearly **** my pants when my cloaking ran out in the middle of a base, and I duck behind a wall to recharge, but one of the A.I already spotted me. Instead of the base firing on all cylinders, they did what any REAL soldier would do. They searched it out. Before you know it, I have a korean staring right at me, pointing his gun right at my face. At first I thought I'd bought it, when I realized, the damn guy probably doesn't know what hell he's looking at. I'm a 6 FOOT BLUR for godssake (turned stealth right on and stood really really really f****** still.) And just when I saw him holster his weapon, I twitched a bit, and he readied it again, screamed, and of course - I put one right in his face.

Rest assured, the whole base went bananas. And on Delta (highest difficulty), it wasn't pretty.

I think people are missing the point.

A lot of gamers seem to think that Difficult A.I = Good A.I. When in fact it should be Realistic A.I = Good A.I. FEAR'S A.I is superb, even up to today. But in terms of scope and realism, Crysis has it beat.

FEAR's engine allowed the A.I to move and react in close-quarters combat. Crysis, however, has to calculate the A.I on an ENTIRE ISLAND. Surely, the A.I wasn't the most badass mofos on the planet, but would you be if you were up against a black-suited asskicker from HELL?

I mean, the A.I have conversations, do chores, takes a piss, patrol, all aside from trying to kill you. So I nearly **** my pants when my cloaking ran out in the middle of a base, and I duck behind a wall to recharge, but one of the A.I already spotted me. Instead of the base firing on all cylinders, they did what any REAL soldier would do. They searched it out. Before you know it, I have a korean staring right at me, pointing his gun right at my face. At first I thought I'd bought it, when I realized, the damn guy probably doesn't know what hell he's looking at. I'm a 6 FOOT BLUR for godssake (turned stealth right on and stood really really really f****** still.) And just when I saw him holster his weapon, I twitched a bit, and he readied it again, screamed, and of course - I put one right in his face.

Rest assured, the whole base went bananas. And on Delta (highest difficulty), it wasn't pretty.

x_boyfriend

:|

I think I'm gonna go out and recon this time around. But I'm guessing that experience was on normal?

By the way guys, try playing on Delta with a 360 controller. You get the achievement "I'm An Idiot -- 5G".

[QUOTE="x_boyfriend"]

I think people are missing the point.

A lot of gamers seem to think that Difficult A.I = Good A.I. When in fact it should be Realistic A.I = Good A.I. FEAR'S A.I is superb, even up to today. But in terms of scope and realism, Crysis has it beat.

FEAR's engine allowed the A.I to move and react in close-quarters combat. Crysis, however, has to calculate the A.I on an ENTIRE ISLAND. Surely, the A.I wasn't the most badass mofos on the planet, but would you be if you were up against a black-suited asskicker from HELL?

I mean, the A.I have conversations, do chores, takes a piss, patrol, all aside from trying to kill you. So I nearly **** my pants when my cloaking ran out in the middle of a base, and I duck behind a wall to recharge, but one of the A.I already spotted me. Instead of the base firing on all cylinders, they did what any REAL soldier would do. They searched it out. Before you know it, I have a korean staring right at me, pointing his gun right at my face. At first I thought I'd bought it, when I realized, the damn guy probably doesn't know what hell he's looking at. I'm a 6 FOOT BLUR for godssake (turned stealth right on and stood really really really f****** still.) And just when I saw him holster his weapon, I twitched a bit, and he readied it again, screamed, and of course - I put one right in his face.

Rest assured, the whole base went bananas. And on Delta (highest difficulty), it wasn't pretty.

FrozenLiquid

:|

I think I'm gonna go out and recon this time around. But I'm guessing that experience was on normal?

By the way guys, try playing on Delta with a 360 controller. You get the achievement "I'm An Idiot -- 5G".

Haha, no, that experience was on Delta. The whole thing lasted a lot shorter than I explained it to be. I'm in no way saying that the A.I is REAL, but I am saying it's at least REALISTIC. The game has it flaws, of course, I'm no fanboy and have always been skeptical of Crysis. But what it presents to us is definitely an SP experience like nothing I've seen before. I now wish they'd come up with an expansion with an urban setting, hehe (I hate the damn jungle).

I died only twice in my entire run on Delta. The reason I survived the third time is because I decided to use my ****** head instead of going balls out. I must've killed no more than twenty soldiers the entire demo. And to think, I hate stealth games. And just to make it harder on myself...

I don't save :D.

Haha, no, that experience was on Delta. The whole thing lasted a lot shorter than I explained it to be. I'm in no way saying that the A.I is REAL, but I am saying it's at least REALISTIC. The game has it flaws, of course, I'm no fanboy and have always been skeptical of Crysis. But what it presents to us is definitely an SP experience like nothing I've seen before. I now wish they'd come up with an expansion with an urban setting, hehe (I hate the damn jungle).

I died only twice in my entire run on Delta. The reason I survived the third time is because I decided to use my ****** head instead of going balls out. I must've killed no more than twenty soldiers the entire demo. And to think, I hate stealth games. And just to make it harder on myself...

I don't save :D.

x_boyfriend

Yeah saving is for losers lol. Checkpoints FTW!

How did you get rid of the damn gunner on the boat? He frickin' annoys me. My nano suit has got nothing on his incredible vision and steady aim. So bloody annoying. Grr.

Why won't GS let me quote? This is really annoying...

Anyways, in order to get rid of the machine gunner on the boat:

A) Switch into strength mode and snipe him.

B) Get into a turret on a humvee and blow the boat up.

C) Avoid the boat by observing it's patrols and moving at the right time or using cloak so it loses sight of you.

[QUOTE="x_boyfriend"]

Haha, no, that experience was on Delta. The whole thing lasted a lot shorter than I explained it to be. I'm in no way saying that the A.I is REAL, but I am saying it's at least REALISTIC. The game has it flaws, of course, I'm no fanboy and have always been skeptical of Crysis. But what it presents to us is definitely an SP experience like nothing I've seen before. I now wish they'd come up with an expansion with an urban setting, hehe (I hate the damn jungle).

I died only twice in my entire run on Delta. The reason I survived the third time is because I decided to use my ****** head instead of going balls out. I must've killed no more than twenty soldiers the entire demo. And to think, I hate stealth games. And just to make it harder on myself...

I don't save :D.

FrozenLiquid

Yeah saving is for losers lol. Checkpoints FTW!

How did you get rid of the damn gunner on the boat? He frickin' annoys me. My nano suit has got nothing on his incredible vision and steady aim. So bloody annoying. Grr.

Your nanosuit kinda does, actually. If you're in strength mode your guns have almost no recoil when you shoot, so aiming from long-range is much easier. But every shot takes energy away. But that's what I usually do to counter the boat gunner, if not just go in the water and take him out a little more... personally. :P

I just wish you could get a scope attachment in the demo, for some sniper shooting. Unless I missed something.

Yup, that guy's right about the AI. If you watched the Predator (first one), the AI will get alarmed when they spot you, and when you turn the cloak on, they'll completely freak out. Like those marines in Predator, they'll start to scream, shoot at the spot when they saw you last time, search around... And by that time, you're on top of some house, having a crosshair locked on one of the guys' head.

Sure, AI has some flaws, but then again, it's a whole, open-ended island, while in FEAR you have corridors. Guess which one's harder to program?

Your nanosuit kinda does, actually. If you're in strength mode your guns have almost no recoil when you shoot, so aiming from long-range is much easier. But every shot takes energy away. But that's what I usually do to counter the boat gunner, if not just go in the water and take him out a little more... personally. :P

I just wish you could get a scope attachment in the demo, for some sniper shooting. Unless I missed something.

Zeliard9

-Loads up Crysis and plays it again-

Wow, Maximum Strength actually does something apart from lame Spider-man jumps and super strength :D.

Since Gamespot won't let me edit, just wanted to add in strength mode your guns have no recoil AND your aim is much steadier. Makes perfect sense, really, since all your limbs get super-strong.
Zeliard9

Whoa? Really. Damn. That's wild. I'm getting myself ready to play the demo again, NON-STEALTH. And just so you guys know, I didn't kill the boat.

Haha. I'm such a pansy. I just walked all the way to the objective man.

EDIT: Didn't mean to say they were lame, just really not inspired. But steady aim is so frickin' cool! /heartFrozenLiquid

So you like the game now? :P

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]EDIT: Didn't mean to say they were lame, just really not inspired. But steady aim is so frickin' cool! /heartLonelynight

So you like the game now? :P

If you saw me at my house you wouldn't think I hated it lol.

It's worth playing. That's the least I could say.

Crysis needs some serious optimization. My GTS 640 only gets 10-15 FPS on very high, which is pretty disappointing, considering what Yerli said.

"Cevat believes that GeForce 8800 GTS or Radeon 2900 will be good for running Crysis at 1280 resolutions on maximum settings but for 1600x1200 or higher you'll need faster hardware."

http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=456

Lets hope they do some extensive customization by release.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]EDIT: Didn't mean to say they were lame, just really not inspired. But steady aim is so frickin' cool! /heartFrozenLiquid

So you like the game now? :P

If you saw me at my house you wouldn't think I hated it lol.

It's worth playing. That's the least I could say.

So to say, you were dissapointed? Or you don't think its amazing like a lot of other people think it is? (like me and Halo)

Crysis needs some serious optimization. My GTS 640 only gets 10-15 FPS on very high, which is pretty disappointing, considering what Yerli said.

"Cevat believes that GeForce 8800 GTS or Radeon 2900 will be good for running Crysis at 1280 resolutions on maximum settings but for 1600x1200 or higher you'll need faster hardware."

http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=456

Lets hope they do some extensive customization by release.

agentfred

Are you sure? Thats what I'm using with Very High and the frame-rate isn steady (Vista doesnt like Fraps for some reason I cant view it)

Crysis needs some serious optimization. My GTS 640 only gets 10-15 FPS on very high, which is pretty disappointing, considering what Yerli said.

"Cevat believes that GeForce 8800 GTS or Radeon 2900 will be good for running Crysis at 1280 resolutions on maximum settings but for 1600x1200 or higher you'll need faster hardware."

http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=456

Lets hope they do some extensive customization by release.

agentfred

Well I'm guessing if the cutscenes are a chugfest, the optimization must be way off.

First impressions count, and I dunno why EA dropped the ball there. Or Crytek. Whoever it is to blame.

Dunno why pplk with better rigs then mine are having such issues. shaders dem, shadows med, rest very high at 1280x1024 noaa and getting 30-50fps constant. vista 32bit also, 64bit has issues.

I think ppl need to realise that these gfx at highest settings are beyond a standard 8800gts, i doubt its the optimization thats hte issue but the fact the game is just far to demanding for current cards.

So to say, you were dissapointed? Or you don't think its amazing like a lot of other people think it is? (like me and Halo)

Lonelynight

More disappointed. It's exceptional all things considered, but not aeons ahead of everything else.

I reckon S.T.A.L.K.E.R is comparable (since they share superficially similar premises). A.I is better in that game too.

Yeah A.I in Crysis brings it down a bit. It's good in some parts, bad in others. Very similar to Halo 3. Only stupider (seriously, non-biased comment).

I'm starting to wonder if F.E.A.R would have the same problem in overly large environments i.e screwing up in long distance combat. Then again, they did some pretty stupid things in close range. I mean, sometimes they had very good cover,so why the hell push it over? :?

Monolith and their ridiculous A.I :lol:

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

Crysis needs some serious optimization. My GTS 640 only gets 10-15 FPS on very high, which is pretty disappointing, considering what Yerli said.

"Cevat believes that GeForce 8800 GTS or Radeon 2900 will be good for running Crysis at 1280 resolutions on maximum settings but for 1600x1200 or higher you'll need faster hardware."

http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=456

Lets hope they do some extensive customization by release.

Meu2k7

Are you sure? Thats what I'm using with Very High and the frame-rate isn steady (Vista doesnt like Fraps for some reason I cant view it)

Yeah, I haven't been getting a very good framerate on Very-High. Maybe I just have a lower tolerance for low framerate, but I had to turn the demo down to high/very high to make it playable.

Dunno why pplk with better rigs then mine are having such issues. shaders dem, shadows med, rest very high at 1280x1024 noaa and getting 30-50fps constant. vista 32bit also, 64bit has issues.

I think ppl need to realise that these gfx at highest settings are beyond a standard 8800gts, i doubt its the optimization thats hte issue but the fact the game is just far to demanding for current cards.

Ospi

Why did Yerli lie then?

He said the game should run max on 1280x1024 with those 8800 GTSs. Then the enthusiasic (and hardworking) hermits got screwed over when the game really is too demanding, and you have to tone down some settings.

Little unfair, don't ya think?

Dunno why pplk with better rigs then mine are having such issues. shaders dem, shadows med, rest very high at 1280x1024 noaa and getting 30-50fps constant. vista 32bit also, 64bit has issues.

I think ppl need to realise that these gfx at highest settings are beyond a standard 8800gts, i doubt its the optimization thats hte issue but the fact the game is just far to demanding for current cards.

Ospi

Does 64-bit have issues? That's might explain why I've got so much trouble with running it at very high.

[QUOTE="Ospi"]

Dunno why pplk with better rigs then mine are having such issues. shaders dem, shadows med, rest very high at 1280x1024 noaa and getting 30-50fps constant. vista 32bit also, 64bit has issues.

I think ppl need to realise that these gfx at highest settings are beyond a standard 8800gts, i doubt its the optimization thats hte issue but the fact the game is just far to demanding for current cards.

agentfred

Does 64-bit have issues? That's might explain why I've got so much trouble with running it at very high.

Yeah it does. Lot of people have been reporting it.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

Crysis needs some serious optimization. My GTS 640 only gets 10-15 FPS on very high, which is pretty disappointing, considering what Yerli said.

"Cevat believes that GeForce 8800 GTS or Radeon 2900 will be good for running Crysis at 1280 resolutions on maximum settings but for 1600x1200 or higher you'll need faster hardware."

http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=456

Lets hope they do some extensive customization by release.

Lonelynight

Well I'm guessing if the cutscenes are a chugfest, the optimization must be way off.

First impressions count, and I dunno why EA dropped the ball there. Or Crytek. Whoever it is to blame.

Crysis haven't gone gold yet

Yeah that's probably why.

[QUOTE="Ospi"]

Dunno why pplk with better rigs then mine are having such issues. shaders dem, shadows med, rest very high at 1280x1024 noaa and getting 30-50fps constant. vista 32bit also, 64bit has issues.

I think ppl need to realise that these gfx at highest settings are beyond a standard 8800gts, i doubt its the optimization thats hte issue but the fact the game is just far to demanding for current cards.

FrozenLiquid

Why did Yerli lie then?

He said the game should run max on 1280x1024 with those 8800 GTSs. Then the enthusiasic (and hardworking) hermits got screwed over when the game really is too demanding, and you have to tone down some settings.

Little unfair, don't ya think?

He said "should" meaning maybe they thought they would have enought time to optimize it more, just my guess and of course they want people to buy their game, also they want the game to be future proof

Man i can't wait to be banned for this.

I always find it entertaining watching people fight about video games. Truly games can be worth fighting about but not this early as to what a Demo should be rated. Some quotes I have seen

"Using the 360 controller, It's so bad it hurts."

"I'm seriously going to wash my hands of this Crysis debate. My final say will be on my blog."

"You actually think there are factors outside that influence me?"

You gotta be kidding. Also, if you think I get upset by things as measly as this, you got me wrong dude. Completely wrong. Considering I didn't care less when my sister was about to be thrown into foster care for being a troubled kid,

"GameSpot says a lot of things."

"By the way guys, try playing on Delta with a 360 controller. You get the achievement "I'm An Idiot -- 5G"

"-Loads up Crysis and plays it again-"

The most epic moment of these posts is how it fluctuates, I mean "Its so bad it hurts" Going from Never going to re-post inside of this forum and tired of debating to right back jumping into the fight. As far as 360 controller anyone who plays PC games with a controller aside from BioShock is a flat out dumbass. Being that I too own a 360 controller I find TF2/ Orange Box and Counter Strike regrettable and should only be used upon 360 games IE BioShock Elder Scrolls.

As far as these fanboys saying comments by others aren't making them upset. Then why keep reposting, why give in then to others opinions to have to keep battling, especially when you state your hierarchy above everyone else's "Stupidity" and "Foolishness/ Hype" when really your doing just the same. As far as playing the game with a 360 controller on Delta you get the Achievement "I'm an Idiot-5G" you can get that without playing with a 360 controller just by your posts and I am sure that would be worth more than 5G.

But by far my favorite post is "Also, if you think I get upset by things as measly as this, you got me wrong dude. Completely wrong. Considering I didn't care less when my sister was about to be thrown into foster care for being a troubled kid,"

If you REALLY don't care about others comments than why throw your own personal life into it. Jesus no wonder your sis was thrown into foster care for being troubled she lives with you a self-lusting hypocrite. Honestly if i was here i probably would have slit my wrists or became a whore but kudos to your sister for getting the help she needed let her know my prayers are with her.

Oh and if you wanna kill that sniper try using your whole hand and not just your thumbs it work a lot better ;)

Call me a fan boy or whatever you want to call me, but this is just a "Critique" if you will of your own, for lack of a better word, mental state.

But like I said I do enjoy these statements because without them i wouldn't know that within 10 min or a couple hours your going to reply to this talking about how much you don't care about this post, but then again your replying and if you haven't replied to this then by god we know who was right and who was wrong for a change. So if you look at it it's a lose: lose situation for you... it has been ever since you stated you weren't going to repost about the topic.

"-Loads up Crysis and plays it again-"

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Ospi"]

Dunno why pplk with better rigs then mine are having such issues. shaders dem, shadows med, rest very high at 1280x1024 noaa and getting 30-50fps constant. vista 32bit also, 64bit has issues.

I think ppl need to realise that these gfx at highest settings are beyond a standard 8800gts, i doubt its the optimization thats hte issue but the fact the game is just far to demanding for current cards.

Lonelynight

Why did Yerli lie then?

He said the game should run max on 1280x1024 with those 8800 GTSs. Then the enthusiasic (and hardworking) hermits got screwed over when the game really is too demanding, and you have to tone down some settings.

Little unfair, don't ya think?

He said "should" meaning maybe they thought they would have enought time to optimize it more, just my guess and of course they want people to buy their game, also they want the game to be future proof

Still enough time for Nvidia to get some better Vista drivers out.

[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="Ospi"]

Dunno why pplk with better rigs then mine are having such issues. shaders dem, shadows med, rest very high at 1280x1024 noaa and getting 30-50fps constant. vista 32bit also, 64bit has issues.

I think ppl need to realise that these gfx at highest settings are beyond a standard 8800gts, i doubt its the optimization thats hte issue but the fact the game is just far to demanding for current cards.

FrozenLiquid

Does 64-bit have issues? That's might explain why I've got so much trouble with running it at very high.

Yeah it does. Lot of people have been reporting it.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="Ospi"]

Dunno why pplk with better rigs then mine are having such issues. shaders dem, shadows med, rest very high at 1280x1024 noaa and getting 30-50fps constant. vista 32bit also, 64bit has issues.

I think ppl need to realise that these gfx at highest settings are beyond a standard 8800gts, i doubt its the optimization thats hte issue but the fact the game is just far to demanding for current cards.

devious742

Does 64-bit have issues? That's might explain why I've got so much trouble with running it at very high.

Yeah it does. Lot of people have been reporting it.

Fine for me, 64 bit Vista.