Crytek: Next-gen used games block would be absolutely awesome

People who support used games are bad guys.GamerwillzPS

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Blocking used games will be good for two reasons.

1. Developers will make more money to make better games (assuming of course)

2. It will bring down Gamestop's evil empire of buying used games for very cheap and then selling them for only $5 less than new. They make a ton of profits off people who are too cheap to pay $5 more to actually support the developer. Although technically, they are just cashing in on the stupidity of the average consumer. Andrew_Xavier

...Or it'll kill the industry. Without the option to sell used games on kijiji or whatever to recoup what you paid for a game you hate, people will take way less chances. If people take way less chances on titles, and buy less titles, independent companies will die, and major companies will not put out anything they don't think will guarantee massive purchases. If indie developers die, and the remaining majors put out less titles, you'll be stuck with only CoD and Halo to play, and people will get sick of them.

Thank you. Someone finally gets what I've been trying to tell him.

too all the losers that said they wont buy next gen with a used game block, good luck with the wiiu, and that garbage PCForzaGearsFace

If anything, Nintendo will win the console war once again & PC gaming will get more popular if Microsoft &/or Sony goes the anti-used gaming route. ;)

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

...Or it'll kill the industry. Without the option to sell used games on kijiji or whatever to recoup what you paid for a game you hate, people will take way less chances. If people take way less chances on titles, and buy less titles, independent companies will die, and major companies will not put out anything they don't think will guarantee massive purchases. If indie developers die, and the remaining majors put out less titles, you'll be stuck with only CoD and Halo to play, and people will get sick of them. Shinobi120

Thank you. Someone finally gets what I've been trying to tell him.

too all the losers that said they wont buy next gen with a used game block, good luck with the wiiu, and that garbage PCForzaGearsFace

If anything, Nintendo will win the console war once again & PC gaming will get more popular if Microsoft &/or Sony goes the anti-used gaming route. ;)

No used game sales will be awful

Publishers will start charging whatever they want and there is nothing you can do about it, used game sales are good competition, they do help keep the prices down.

second, Publishers will start making more money and thats it, no you idiots, it wont mean the games get a bigger budget, it will mean the CEO just gets a bigger bonus.

look at COD and how much money they make, yet the games are still cheaply made on a 13 year old engine, most of the budget goes towards marketing.

It would be pretty hilarious to see Nintendo absolutely crush Sony and Microsoft because of their "no used games" policy.PurpleMan5000

I really hope they do if this happens. It would send everyone the message that we, the consumer, have the power. You have to give us what we want in order to get our cash. We all know that used is not the true problem that's suffocating the industry, S* games are. 3 hour, buggy, no replay value, poor controls all with a $60 price tag games are the ones holding the proverbial plastic bag over the industries head.

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Make better games, we'll have to buy new because there will be few available used. Problem solved.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] agreedPurpleMan5000

edit: I think the higher priced games and used game market is broken, most people sell games back to get another game they want and gamestop has a lot of deals if you keep coming, its the best way right now to afford getting new games and people rely on it heavily. Every other used market isn't nearly as comparable, yes they all have the same concept but gamers just aren't holding onto games long enough to make it work any more. $60 is too much to drop on new games and people get the new games buy giving up the old games.

No used games will severly backfire on the game industry, i've purchased many games brand new and regret a few of those purchases, and sold them for second hand and bought new games with the money.

If they want this to work they should slash the price of games by atleast 30-40%

However that wouldn't work either because the greedy mofos would sell the game half finished, and later sell you the rest of it for the same price.

Then there would be the scenario of piracy being alot worse, because their bussiness models are too restrictive and out of touch with what consumers want.

>Crytek: "We don't care about the consumers"

>Everybody still buys their crap

This is what is wrong with gaming.

MacBoomStick

Nice way to commit commercial suicide.

When I was at collage I worked at a games store and well over half of new games sale involved trade in's, stop those people trading and I can easily see game sales dropping 20-25%.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Blocking used games will be good for two reasons. 1. Developers will make more money to make better games (assuming of course) 2. It will bring down Gamestop's evil empire of buying used games for very cheap and then selling them for only $5 less than new. They make a ton of profits off people who are too cheap to pay $5 more to actually support the developer. Although technically, they are just cashing in on the stupidity of the average consumer. savagetwinkie

(3)- at first that's what I thought. The rule of supply & demand. But that kind of economics is already outdated as manipulation comes into play. If you're hoping for a price drop then maybe you can get $10 less the most. But remember, you can get a new game for $30-35 from the selling/trading few month old game used than paying $40-50 on DD that requires you to be online at all times. The arguement that blocking used games will lower game price is false and flawed. If developers are able to get away with various DLC on a incomplete game, what stop them on charging more to cover their high development cost and increase profit. The bottom line is that blocking used games will make developers especially publishers to profit more with less content. It's all about greed.

(4)- That could be true but if games are always releasing reharshes (MW2, COD OPS, MW3) on a yearly basis, then you are just going to get outdated. You might drop back to say hello but nobody is there on the old game anymore

(5)- People go to GameStop and sell/trade their games for one sole reason. It is to get credit and buy another new or perhaps another used game he/she was not able to play before. You can say that GameStop rips off gamers, but at least gamers have less opportunity cost in contrast to losing all of your $50-60 on game you just found out you don't even like it.

Nice way to commit commercial suicide.

When I was at collage I worked at a games store and well over half of new games sale involved trade in's, stop those people trading and I can easily see game sales dropping 20-25%.

Newhopes

I would probably only buy 3-4 games a year without used games. Not because I couldn't afford it, but because I just don't have time to play games very much. I have two young kids and by the time they are in bed, I just want to relax with my wife, watch the news and go to bed. I'd be lucky to get an hour of gaming in a day. Its when the kids are off with grandma or having a sleepover somewhere that I can get some nice play sessions in. As one might imagine, that isn't very often. I am more content buying an older game and letting it sit around until I can get around to it. I wouldn't be doing that without used games. It is my honest belief that if used games are completely eliminated, the industry would shrink and become more of a niche market. This would ultimately hurt the developers. It would keep games out of the hands of people whose only option is used games and the average consumer in general.. Despite what a lot of people seem to think, most shoppers only buy games at special occasions, holidays, ect. I am all for putting online passes on used games in order to help give money back to the developer, but wanting to remove the option of used games completely, is short sighted.Peanut04_basic

It is... after all...... EA. :nothingtodohere:

Enthusiasts aside, most gamers just don't have $60 spare every time a game they want comes out. However, what do they have? $30 and 4 games they don't play anymore. Why do you think GameStop gives so much bonus trade in credit every time a big game is released? Simple, they want the new sale. It baffles me that these publishers and developers don't seem to take into account the very noticeable effect that devaluing or elimintating trade-ins will have on new game sales. You think we heave a dearth of new IPs now? Wait until the only "sure thing" publishers can count on is Modern Warfare IX and Madden "Same as last year" edition.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. No other entertainment industry complains about this issue. In fact, the case can be made that piracy and used sells are even worse in the music and movie industries than in gaming. At the end of the day it comes down to developers making games worth the full retail price, and trust me, I can count the number of games I've played this gen that were worth that $60 on my two hands.

i dont know why but im in favor of this whole thing

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] 3. Cheaper games, without the xtra cash from used games, day 1 sales are going to drop and so will the price of $60 games 4. Communities last longer, can't sell the game back for the next best thing, they'll always be able to drop back in and say hello! 5. Larger volume of sales for DLC, guess what your stockade of 3 million games sold aren't sitting on gamestop shelves, enjoy the larger audiencesavagetwinkie

edit: I think the higher priced games and used game market is broken, most people sell games back to get another game they want and gamestop has a lot of deals if you keep coming, its the best way right now to afford getting new games and people rely on it heavily. Every other used market isn't nearly as comparable, yes they all have the same concept but gamers just aren't holding onto games long enough to make it work any more. $60 is too much to drop on new games and people get the new games buy giving up the old games.

[QUOTE="MacBoomStick"]

>Crytek: "We don't care about the consumers"

>Everybody still buys their crap

This is what is wrong with gaming.

alexside1

it seems hard to support crytek these days

cvg

TheShadowLord07

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] I agree with 3 and 4, though 3 means less money for developers and publishers. I disagree with 5 because if those games were spending a whole lot of time on Gamestop's shelves, Gamestop wouldn't be doing such good business. Also, somebody who disliked a game enough to sell it to Gamestop probably didn't like the game enough to dust it off and purchase some crappy DLC pack for $15.PurpleMan5000

edit: I think the higher priced games and used game market is broken, most people sell games back to get another game they want and gamestop has a lot of deals if you keep coming, its the best way right now to afford getting new games and people rely on it heavily. Every other used market isn't nearly as comparable, yes they all have the same concept but gamers just aren't holding onto games long enough to make it work any more. $60 is too much to drop on new games and people get the new games buy giving up the old games.

Blocking used games will be good for two reasons. 1. Developers will make more money to make better games (assuming of course) 2. It will bring down Gamestop's evil empire of buying used games for very cheap and then selling them for only $5 less than new. They make a ton of profits off people who are too cheap to pay $5 more to actually support the developer. Although technically, they are just cashing in on the stupidity of the average consumer. SF_KiLLaMaN

Watch them try it next gen and have sales of games dramatically drop as well as the cost of development rise. That'll be a kicker to watch all the big publishers scramble and damage control as their bread and butter fails to provide for them. I've said it before and I'll say it again. PC will never have any danger of dying, console gaming has a much larger chance and something like this will magnify it.

organic_machine

LOL at people defending them.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Blocking used games will be good for two reasons. 1. Developers will make more money to make better games (assuming of course) 2. It will bring down Gamestop's evil empire of buying used games for very cheap and then selling them for only $5 less than new. They make a ton of profits off people who are too cheap to pay $5 more to actually support the developer. Although technically, they are just cashing in on the stupidity of the average consumer. MirkoS77

Why do you think BIG developers like EA, Activision, Sony are pushing so hard to block used games. It's to turn the video game industry into an oligopoly.

I mean look at COD and vast of generic FPS, it has lots of profit but less creativity. Actually, the more profit the developers get, the more lazy they become due to easy money and less creativity required to get lots of profit.

I've been playing Crysis 2 (PC) and the AI is so bad that it seems like it was programmed by a 4 year old. Crytek is a hack developer and their games are uninspired and generic as hell. PC gamers put them on a pedestal back when Crysis was the last PC exclusive worth mentioning that wasn't a RTS or MMO. Even back then they blamed piracy on lackluster sales.

Cry me a river, b!tch.

You wanna know why people didn't pay for Crysis 2? Because it sucked ass.

DarkLink77

LOL at people defending them.

Big_Pecks

I honestly think the online passes is a better idea.. It would rape Gamestop and their price gouging methods.. While still having a used game industry in the background.. That way every body is happy.sSubZerOo

A lack of used games sales would also cause a lack of competition. Game prices would be stagnent, and developers could get away with charger full price for a game for a longer period. Used sales help prices stay low and competative. After all if people can start buying games for $45 instead of $60, new sales will slow and publishers will have to lower the price on the new game to encourage sales.

For people who remember what Iwata said at the latest investors meeting, on the 3DS and Wii U, you will be able to sell your digital copy of a game to a friend.

Sounds like the Wii U will be the best bet if you want to play used games.

[QUOTE="Peanut04_basic"]I would probably only buy 3-4 games a year without used games. Not because I couldn't afford it, but because I just don't have time to play games very much. I have two young kids and by the time they are in bed, I just want to relax with my wife, watch the news and go to bed. I'd be lucky to get an hour of gaming in a day. Its when the kids are off with grandma or having a sleepover somewhere that I can get some nice play sessions in. As one might imagine, that isn't very often. I am more content buying an older game and letting it sit around until I can get around to it. I wouldn't be doing that without used games. It is my honest belief that if used games are completely eliminated, the industry would shrink and become more of a niche market. This would ultimately hurt the developers. It would keep games out of the hands of people whose only option is used games and the average consumer in general.. Despite what a lot of people seem to think, most shoppers only buy games at special occasions, holidays, ect. I am all for putting online passes on used games in order to help give money back to the developer, but wanting to remove the option of used games completely, is short sighted.Zaistev_basic

I also see such short-sightedness on some gamers who is okay or approved blocking used games. Why is it that BIG developers like EA, Activision, Sony, etc are so hard pushing this. This will help them to wipe out competition from small/independent developers; thus creating a video game oligopoly industry. And here some thought that the price will go down if used games are blocked. It's all greed and corporate politics.

Simple. Because they're morons.

For people who remember what Iwata said at the latest investors meeting, on the 3DS and Wii U, you will be able to sell your digital copy of a game to a friend.

Sounds like the Wii U will be the best bet if you want to play used games.

Gamingclone

[QUOTE="Gamingclone"]

For people who remember what Iwata said at the latest investors meeting, on the 3DS and Wii U, you will be able to sell your digital copy of a game to a friend.

Sounds like the Wii U will be the best bet if you want to play used games.

Zaistev_basic

Publishers/developers will regret it later on down the road once they realize that most of their game sales for PS4/Xbox 720 will drop like a ton of bricks should Sony & Microsoft goes through with implementing it onto their next gen consoles.

Yes, heaven forbid somebody try to purchase a second hand game.

Crytek hasn't even put out any games worth buying used since the first Crysis. I'll have no problem avoiding there games from here on out.

[QUOTE="Gamingclone"]

For people who remember what Iwata said at the latest investors meeting, on the 3DS and Wii U, you will be able to sell your digital copy of a game to a friend.

Sounds like the Wii U will be the best bet if you want to play used games.

Zaistev_basic