Crytek says PS3/360 will hold back any major graphical progression for 3 years!

GS AU: So does that mean the games of today will be visually as good looking as we can expect to see for the next few years?

CY: For the next two to three years, for sure, yes. There will be some refinements here and there: We [are limited] by the PS3 and 360 hardware, but maybe on the PC we can scale some more. This will bridge the gap to some degree between current and next-gen on the PC without any new code. The possibilities we have are limited right now by the console generations.

How sad is that.Oh sure you would say that we dont care about graphics even though 40% of the threads at SW are about "console graphics king".:|

Seems like it's not the wii affecting hardcore gaming but the PS3/360 are the real culprits.

The only good thing about this is that anyone with an 8800 or better card wont need to upgrade for 2-3 years.But I am sure just like me most PC enthusiasts would rather upgrade and move on with the times.But damn consoles.:(

and the PS2 wasnt the pinicle of graphics when the PS3 came out either...perhaps this is why they make new consols?Jynxzor

I still prefer that than having to upgrade my PC every once in a while. Besides, has anyone seen Crysis ? Is that really a problem if graphics don't get better than that in the next 3 years or so ?Gamer4Iife

Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.nVidiaGaMer

Crytek called. They are looking for nVidiaGaMer, anyone seen him?

Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.nVidiaGaMer

Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.nVidiaGaMer

Oh wait *looks at username* never mind.

[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"]I still prefer that than having to upgrade my PC every once in a while. Besides, has anyone seen Crysis ? Is that really a problem if graphics don't get better than that in the next 3 years or so ?Spybot_9

Really ? I can't think of anything that looks better than Crysis right now...

Honestly, I don't think graphics will be making new games better any time soon.FrozenLiquid

For stealth(and games like crysis which mix a little stealth ) and RTS games graphics (and the stuff that comes with them like physics etc) make games better

LOL when crytek can create a good game that actual regular people can play and not rich people whom can afford the setup their game requires to play on then they can talk.

For all of the requirements to play cryteks crap games those games are pretty mediocre in the least and total crap at the most.
and what he is saying is downright stupid its only obvious that the consoles will hold back graphical progression on their own systems for 3 years because its their own system, Its not the consoles faults that to this day pc gaming is running for no reason at all at 120% to the point that just like in the 90's if you buy something its all ready obselete, they need to stop or the pc gaming industry is simply gonna crash specially in today's economy it sux to buy an brand new pc just to find that its obsolete all ready and that batch of games comming out at the end of the year wont play on your system at max settings. Which is why i stopped pc gaming except for simple games, Its too much money and time to worry about how i just purchased this 1k-2k system and within a month its obsolete and within a year some of the newest games wont play on it at max settings.


WilliamRLBaker

and it bolded down to that argument which has been debunked many times. So wait I'm not a regular person? I get to play crysis does that make me rich? I don't think so :S, if a PC can run crysis it is set for quite a while as crysis was a HUGE jump in technical terms.

Honestly, I don't think graphics will be making new games better any time soon.FrozenLiquid

Honestly, I don't think graphics will be making new games better any time soon.FrozenLiquid

u beat me to it

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Honestly, I don't think graphics will be making new games better any time soon.Nerkcon

Spyro and Crash mastered 3D gaming back in the day ...

We don't really need a high profile source to already know this is the case, Crytek may complain about piracy on PC all day long; but in the end their preference is the PC platform. Moving to a cross platform model means they have to abandon pushing modern hardware, they have to somehow figure out how to differentiate themselves when all developers have to work with the same machine.

I wonder which console manufacturer will shake the biggest wad of cash to try to entice Crytek to work for them? Each console has their developers that were pampered into staying loyal to that system, developers trained to praise the platform whenever the media are in hearing range.

The way they have been gurgling the PS4s name when they don't even know what it will have suggests Sony has the biggest bid so far.

:o Are you telling me PC's which are upgradeable can output better graphics per generation that a non-upgradeable console?!?!?!killab2oo5

Thank you. To all the hermits gloating over this thread, that must be news or something; when I read that Crytek quote, the first thing that popped into my mind was, "didn't we know this already?"

Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.nVidiaGaMer

They already have and the funny thing is that it came out almost a year ago (Nov. 13th). :lol:

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.Nedemis

They already have and the funny thing is that it came out almost a year ago (Nov. 13th). :lol:

And here comes another artistic vs. technical graphics debate...

LOL when crytek can create a good game that actual regular people can play and not rich people whom can afford the setup their game requires to play on then they can talk.

For all of the requirements to play cryteks crap games those games are pretty mediocre in the least and total crap at the most.
and what he is saying is downright stupid its only obvious that the consoles will hold back graphical progression on their own systems for 3 years because its their own system, Its not the consoles faults that to this day pc gaming is running for no reason at all at 120% to the point that just like in the 90's if you buy something its all ready obselete, they need to stop or the pc gaming industry is simply gonna crash specially in today's economyit sux to buy an brand new pc just to find that its obsolete all ready and that batch of games comming out at the end of the year wont play on your system at max settings. Which is why i stopped pc gaming except for simple games, Its too much money and time to worry about how i just purchased this 1k-2k system and within a month its obsolete and within a year some of the newest games wont play on it at max settings.


WilliamRLBaker

Rich? :lol:

I bolded everything that's wrong. Hell, most of it's wrong but i'll go with those.

1. Regular people play Crysis. Seriously, talk about ignorance. The EA $700 PC shows just how wrong you are (plays Crysis at High settings with over 40fps). Hell, if you built it yourself and got the parts from newegg you could put together a PC that maxes out Crysis (especially Warhead) without any problems for less than $800.

2. Yes, Crytek games are crap...that's why console fanboys do nothing but whine that they aren't getting their dumbed down inferior console version of Crysis, correct? Please, what a joke.

3. Yes, PC gaming is running for no reason yet it has the most AAA/AA exclusive and non exclusive titles. Best games all around in terms of AAA/AA exclusives and overall more titles to choose from. You are clueless.

4. What do you know about the economy? Did you see someone say "OMG, the economy is in trouble" and then just come on here and claim that PC gaming is failing because "AH, the $3000 PC". :lol: Come on, you can't be that ignorant (or maybe you are, don't let me speak for you). Not only are PC's less expensive then you console fanboys like to say but you get more bang for you buck.

5. My PC before i upgraded to my current one (upgraded back in August) ran games at all max settings (other than Crysis) for 3 years. Yea, so please, learn something about PC's and PC gaming before spouting off your ignorant nonsense.

6. Again, gaming PC's don't cost $2000. Possibly $1000 but that's for a very high end rig. Especially if you're building it yourself and getting the parts from Newegg, which would make it even cheaper.

7. Again with the BS. If you got a $1000-$2000 gaming PC it would easily play all games at max settings for the next few years. Then, most likely, all you'd have to upgrade is the GPU (depending on how much ram you put in to begin with, but 1gb of ram is cheap).

This is why console fanboys bother me. You're never ending stream of ignorance and lies. Sure, 3-6 months after you get a PC it is technically OUTDATED but not Obsolete as you stated. Obsolete would imply that literally no game will run on it. That "OUTDATED" PC is still at least 2x more powerful than the current gen consoles. Consoles are outdated before they're even released for the most in terms of PC CPU's and GPU's. :shock: Yes, that's true. Learn a thing or two about PC gaming before you speak next time. You won't look so foolish.

I think that's a good thing. Look at the success Valve and Infinity Wards has had with their games that scale to older hardware. Making games that chug on expensive computers is kind of foolish.Deihmos

Console hardware restrictions limit more than graphics, 2GB ram PCs only seeing games designed with 256mb in mind is 'not' a good thing.

People forget ram played a significant role in the design of Crysis, ways that couldn't be done on consoles.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]LOL when crytek can create a good game that actual regular people can play and not rich people whom can afford the setup their game requires to play on then they can talk.

For all of the requirements to play cryteks crap games those games are pretty mediocre in the least and total crap at the most.
and what he is saying is downright stupid its only obvious that the consoles will hold back graphical progression on their own systems for 3 years because its their own system, Its not the consoles faults that to this day pc gaming is running for no reason at all at 120% to the point that just like in the 90's if you buy something its all ready obselete, they need to stop or the pc gaming industry is simply gonna crash specially in today's economy it sux to buy an brand new pc just to find that its obsolete all ready and that batch of games comming out at the end of the year wont play on your system at max settings. Which is why i stopped pc gaming except for simple games, Its too much money and time to worry about how i just purchased this 1k-2k system and within a month its obsolete and within a year some of the newest games wont play on it at max settings.


Espada12

and it bolded down to that argument which has been debunked many times. So wait I'm not a regular person? I get to play crysis does that make me rich? I don't think so :S, if a PC can run crysis it is set for quite a while as crysis was a HUGE jump in technical terms.

except it hasn't be...debunked When crysis was first released it needed a 1-2k dollar system to just play at minimum specs let alone max, And said systems were obselete for games released a year after crysis, Its a simple fact if you want to be capable of playing the best games at the highest settings day one you have to purchase a system for 600-1k dollars now and then update it atleast once a year and if you want to play day one games you gotta get said graphics cards as soon as they come out at the high price.

Its never ben debunked people come forward with systems oh look at my 600 dollar system that can play crysis...A YEAR after its been out, I want to see a 600 dollar system playing a game like crysis warhead on day one.

Then we have the hermits that are like well you dont need a keyboard, or monitor or pretty much any thing else, lets just cut out the sound card, the hard drives...ect since we can just use that stuff from our old computers, Crytek has no real right to talk at all since they are literally a pc only developer and the ps3 and 360 will hold them back because they aren't good enough to scale there games to look great on pc's and look great on consoles.

This isn't a matter of power this is a matter of fact that crytek is a crappy developer.

P.S:Play means MAX settings, Hermits only care about max settings and how PCs are superior to consoles in graphics and sound, But in reality pc gaming is the low end of the gaming spectrum.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]LOL when crytek can create a good game that actual regular people can play and not rich people whom can afford the setup their game requires to play on then they can talk.

For all of the requirements to play cryteks crap games those games are pretty mediocre in the least and total crap at the most.
and what he is saying is downright stupid its only obvious that the consoles will hold back graphical progression on their own systems for 3 years because its their own system, Its not the consoles faults that to this day pc gaming is running for no reason at all at 120% to the point that just like in the 90's if you buy something its all ready obselete, they need to stop or the pc gaming industry is simply gonna crash specially in today's economy it sux to buy an brand new pc just to find that its obsolete all ready and that batch of games comming out at the end of the year wont play on your system at max settings. Which is why i stopped pc gaming except for simple games, Its too much money and time to worry about how i just purchased this 1k-2k system and within a month its obsolete and within a year some of the newest games wont play on it at max settings.


WilliamRLBaker

and it bolded down to that argument which has been debunked many times. So wait I'm not a regular person? I get to play crysis does that make me rich? I don't think so :S, if a PC can run crysis it is set for quite a while as crysis was a HUGE jump in technical terms.

except it hasn't be...debunked When crysis was first released it needed a 1-2k dollar system to just play at minimum specs let alone max, And said systems were obselete for games released a year after crysis, Its a simple fact if you want to be capable of playing the best games at the highest settings day one you have to purchase a system for 600-1k dollars now and then update it atleast once a year and if you want to play day one games you gotta get said graphics cards as soon as they come out at the high price.

Its never ben debunked people come forward with systems oh look at my 600 dollar system that can play crysis...A YEAR after its been out, I want to see a 600 dollar system playing a game like crysis warhead on day one.

Then we have the hermits that are like well you dont need a keyboard, or monitor or pretty much any thing else, lets just cut out the sound card, the hard drives...ect since we can just use that stuff from our old computers, Crytek has no real right to talk at all since they are literally a pc only developer and the ps3 and 360 will hold them back because they aren't good enough to scale there games to look great on pc's and look great on consoles.

This isn't a matter of power this is a matter of fact that crytek is a crappy developer.

P.S:Play means MAX settings, Hermits only care about max settings and how PCs are superior to consoles in graphics and sound, But in reality pc gaming is the low end of the gaming spectrum.

My IQ just got lowered by 90%...

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]LOL when crytek can create a good game that actual regular people can play and not rich people whom can afford the setup their game requires to play on then they can talk.

For all of the requirements to play cryteks crap games those games are pretty mediocre in the least and total crap at the most.
and what he is saying is downright stupid its only obvious that the consoles will hold back graphical progression on their own systems for 3 years because its their own system, Its not the consoles faults that to this day pc gaming is running for no reason at all at 120% to the point that just like in the 90's if you buy something its all ready obselete, they need to stop or the pc gaming industry is simply gonna crash specially in today's economy it sux to buy an brand new pc just to find that its obsolete all ready and that batch of games comming out at the end of the year wont play on your system at max settings. Which is why i stopped pc gaming except for simple games, Its too much money and time to worry about how i just purchased this 1k-2k system and within a month its obsolete and within a year some of the newest games wont play on it at max settings.


WilliamRLBaker

and it bolded down to that argument which has been debunked many times. So wait I'm not a regular person? I get to play crysis does that make me rich? I don't think so :S, if a PC can run crysis it is set for quite a while as crysis was a HUGE jump in technical terms.

except it hasn't be...debunked When crysis was first released it needed a 1-2k dollar system to just play at minimum specs let alone max, And said systems were obselete for games released a year after crysis, Its a simple fact if you want to be capable of playing the best games at the highest settings day one you have to purchase a system for 600-1k dollars now and then update it atleast once a year and if you want to play day one games you gotta get said graphics cards as soon as they come out at the high price.

Its never ben debunked people come forward with systems oh look at my 600 dollar system that can play crysis...A YEAR after its been out, I want to see a 600 dollar system playing a game like crysis warhead on day one.

Then we have the hermits that are like well you dont need a keyboard, or monitor or pretty much any thing else, lets just cut out the sound card, the hard drives...ect since we can just use that stuff from our old computers, Crytek has no real right to talk at all since they are literally a pc only developer and the ps3 and 360 will hold them back because they aren't good enough to scale there games to look great on pc's and look great on consoles.

This isn't a matter of power this is a matter of fact that crytek is a crappy developer.

P.S:Play means MAX settings, Hermits only care about max settings and how PCs are superior to consoles in graphics and sound, But in reality pc gaming is the low end of the gaming spectrum.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]LOL when crytek can create a good game that actual regular people can play and not rich people whom can afford the setup their game requires to play on then they can talk.

For all of the requirements to play cryteks crap games those games are pretty mediocre in the least and total crap at the most.
and what he is saying is downright stupid its only obvious that the consoles will hold back graphical progression on their own systems for 3 years because its their own system, Its not the consoles faults that to this day pc gaming is running for no reason at all at 120% to the point that just like in the 90's if you buy something its all ready obselete, they need to stop or the pc gaming industry is simply gonna crash specially in today's economy it sux to buy an brand new pc just to find that its obsolete all ready and that batch of games comming out at the end of the year wont play on your system at max settings. Which is why i stopped pc gaming except for simple games, Its too much money and time to worry about how i just purchased this 1k-2k system and within a month its obsolete and within a year some of the newest games wont play on it at max settings.


WilliamRLBaker

and it bolded down to that argument which has been debunked many times. So wait I'm not a regular person? I get to play crysis does that make me rich? I don't think so :S, if a PC can run crysis it is set for quite a while as crysis was a HUGE jump in technical terms.

except it hasn't be...debunked When crysis was first released it needed a 1-2k dollar system to just play at minimum specs let alone max, And said systems were obselete for games released a year after crysis, Its a simple fact if you want to be capable of playing the best games at the highest settings day one you have to purchase a system for 600-1k dollars now and then update it atleast once a year and if you want to play day one games you gotta get said graphics cards as soon as they come out at the high price.

Its never ben debunked people come forward with systems oh look at my 600 dollar system that can play crysis...A YEAR after its been out, I want to see a 600 dollar system playing a game like crysis warhead on day one.

Then we have the hermits that are like well you dont need a keyboard, or monitor or pretty much any thing else, lets just cut out the sound card, the hard drives...ect since we can just use that stuff from our old computers, Crytek has no real right to talk at all since they are literally a pc only developer and the ps3 and 360 will hold them back because they aren't good enough to scale there games to look great on pc's and look great on consoles.

This isn't a matter of power this is a matter of fact that crytek is a crappy developer.

P.S:Play means MAX settings, Hermits only care about max settings and how PCs are superior to consoles in graphics and sound, But in reality pc gaming is the low end of the gaming spectrum.

When Crysis came out, I had just built my PC for $850. And I could Max it. Dont make up stupid stories. And like the poster above said, you are becoming Wok7. Quit while youre behind.

Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.nVidiaGaMer

"we are limited by the ps3 and 360 hardware"

:lol: anyone find it hilarious that they are talking about the ps3/360 when they havent even develop a game for any of the systems? lulz, please keep making pc excuslives, dont bother producing games on such a weak hardware like the 360/ps3...im sure those who play on consoles will be quite sadden :lol:

"we are limited by the ps3 and 360 hardware"

:lol: anyone find it hilarious that they are talking about the ps3/360 when they havent even develop a game for any of the systems? lulz, please keep making pc excuslives, dont bother producing games on such a weak hardware like the 360/ps3...im sure those who play on consoles will be quite sadden :lol:

Dante2710

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]

"we are limited by the ps3 and 360 hardware"

:lol: anyone find it hilarious that they are talking about the ps3/360 when they havent even develop a game for any of the systems? lulz, please keep making pc excuslives, dont bother producing games on such a weak hardware like the 360/ps3...im sure those who play on consoles will be quite sadden :lol:

MojondeVACA

cant say that i care, if making a game for a weaker hardware is such a a burden, then stick to pc, im sure they will make some sort of profit out of itDante2710

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]cant say that i care, if making a game for a weaker hardware is such a a burden, then stick to pc, im sure they will make some sort of profit out of itTeufelhuhn