Crytek,say taht Consoles shooters are at the level of PC shooter, 5-6 years ago

And this affects me how?. I'm having a great time with Halo 3, more so than any PC shooter I've played.

He's allowed his opinion but that's all it is, his opinion.

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Eurobacca

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

Shadowrun is a poor mans "The Specialist".

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.PAL360

vegas? ghost reccon, etc...

Hermits need to get out of their virtual worlds and get into reality , PC games don't doing nothing great and are not as user freindly and fun as console games

/thread

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Eurobacca

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

Once again, we're talking gameplay here. Its already been established that ino rder to appeal to a more widestream (console) audience, lots of developers end up toning down the gameplay, hence consolization/casualization if yo're PC.Vandalvideo

Sorry, just no.

As a fan of LGS and System Shock 2, it was obvious they couldn't make SS3 due to legal issues, yet if it was SS3, no one would complain much that its more of the same of SS2.

Half Life 2 was a "fresh coat of paint" from Half Life 1.

Halo 3 is a "fresh coat of paint" of Halo 2.

As a spiritual successor, Bioshock was going to be a fresh coat of paint of System Shock 2.

Making it a console game too had nothing to do with it. No, not even the harsh weapon degrading system which has seemingly been taken out.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Please, give me some PC titles which have HDR on the level of Halo, if your statement still stands.Vandalvideo

Exactly.

So your statement doesn't stand.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Once again, we're talking gameplay here. Its already been established that ino rder to appeal to a more widestream (console) audience, lots of developers end up toning down the gameplay, hence consolization/casualization if yo're PC.FrozenLiquid

Sorry, just no.

As a fan of LGS and System Shock 2, it was obvious they couldn't make SS3 due to legal issues, yet if it was SS3, no one would complain much that its more of the same of SS2.

Half Life 2 was a "fresh coat of paint" from Half Life 1.

Halo 3 is a "fresh coat of paint" of Halo 2.

As a spiritual successor, Bioshock was going to be a fresh coat of paint of System Shock 2.

Making it a console game too had nothing to do with it. No, not even the harsh weapon degrading system which has seemingly been taken out.

I dunno,

But it took the B3d forumites to count the pixels for you to figure that one out, didn't it?

Personally, I don't care with the fantastic lighting. It could have fooled me. I just thought it had no AA.

FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Please, give me some PC titles which have HDR on the level of Halo, if your statement still stands.FrozenLiquid

Exactly.

So your statement doesn't stand.

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Vandalvideo

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.

Who really cares what Crytek has to say about Halo 3? I know I don't. It's a shame their game won't even sell 1/10 as many copies as Halo 3 and supposely their game is superior. What does Crytek have to say about that? :lol: :lol:

Why are they making Fry Cry 2 for the XBox 360 now? --->>http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200383

I thought it was PC exclusive. lmao!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

XanderZane

your far cry 2

Publisher: Electronic Arts

Developer: Crytek Studios

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.tramp

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

Shadowrun is a poor mans "The Specialist".

More rich people play console games like LL cool J, Paris Hilton, Lead singer of Korn, and David Chappelle - I guess they are not as cool as hermits

[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="JimmyT2"]

[QUOTE="paabss"]iim sorry what? DOOM, QUAKE, UNREAL TORUNAMENT,, HALF LIFE, WOLFSTEIN, DUKE NUKEM, i can keep going all day,, smokeydabear076

Shooters from this millennium would be preferable. Ok UT and Half-life 2 were in the same league as Halo within the past few year but the others certainly were not. I play both consoles and PC and I find his statement arrogant.

[QUOTE="RickGotti"]The funny thing is, is that Far Cry was the worst console shooter I've played in a looooooooong time. They should shut their collective pieholespaabss

tahts why, he said it,, ,CONSOLE SHOOTER ARE 5 0R 6 YEARS BEHIND, u proove the point,, FARC CRY was great in pc and sux in consoles,,,,, HALO3 isnt taht good, im mean is not even HD, lol

Console shooters aren't 5-6 years behind anything. Shoot. 007 Golden is still better then most shooter from 5-6 years ago. :lol: Halo 1, 2 & 3 were better then Doom, Wolftenstein, Serious Sam, Duke Nukem and many of those other games from years ago. The only reason PC shooter look better is because they have better graphic cards & processors in their systems. Let me upgrade the XBox 360 to the same specs as atop of the line PC and then tell me which game looks and plays better. That's what I thought. :roll: Crytek allowed Ubisoft to release a bad port of their game to consoles is Cryteks fault. They should have oversaw the development of that game. If Crysis doesn score a 9.5 or higher it will be considered a FLOP on these forums.

yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.HSYOON_1

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.HSYOON_1

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.

They think cause they got to press 10 to 20 keyboard keys it's more technical and cause they use their mouse to aim it's more special!

[QUOTE="HSYOON_1"]yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.Vandalvideo

I am not really sure what you meant because technically videogames started last millenium, seeing as how it is 2007 and the new millenium started in 2000. :POfcourse,I wasn't directingwhat I saidat you necessarily, I just happened to express my opinion in your quote chain.DrinkDuff

I do have a gaming PC and nothing on it looks better than Halo 3 or Gears, I pre-ordered Crysis yesterday at Gamespot(got a free dvd with screenshots and 2 videos on it - whoop)and the PC selection for PC games might as well be dead with a bunch of games with horrible graphics that looked 5 or 6 years behind

Eurobacca

lol, what can i say

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HSYOON_1"]yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.DrinkDuff

[QUOTE="HSYOON_1"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Eurobacca

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.

They think cause they got to press 10 to 20 keyboard keys it's more technical and cause they use their mouse to aim it's more special!

lol

They think cause they got to press 10 to 20 keyboard keys it's more technical and cause they use their mouse to aim it's more special!Eurobacca

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Vandalvideo

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

Oooooo, it would smack me. Dude you need to get a grip and stop acting like a major hermit.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Once again, we're talking gameplay here. Its already been established that ino rder to appeal to a more widestream (console) audience, lots of developers end up toning down the gameplay, hence consolization/casualization if yo're PC.FrozenLiquid

Sorry, just no.

As a fan of LGS and System Shock 2, it was obvious they couldn't make SS3 due to legal issues, yet if it was SS3, no one would complain much that its more of the same of SS2.

Half Life 2 was a "fresh coat of paint" from Half Life 1.

Halo 3 is a "fresh coat of paint" of Halo 2.

As a spiritual successor, Bioshock was going to be a fresh coat of paint of System Shock 2.

Making it a console game too had nothing to do with it. No, not even the harsh weapon degrading system which has seemingly been taken out.

You have to admt there were some consoleriffic features in Bioshock, though. Like the shimmering loot, the usable object highlight, the adaptive training, the *quest arrow* that literally dynamically points you exactly where you need to go. This is all stuff you wouldn't have found in Bioshock if it was PC-only, I assure you. And I'm not complaining about those things since you can turn them off, but they are very clear examples of the "consolization" of Bioshock.

[QUOTE="tramp"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Eurobacca

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

Shadowrun is a poor mans "The Specialist".

More rich people play console games like LL cool J, Paris Hilton, Lead singer of Korn, and David Chappelle - I guess they are not as cool as hermits

:lol:

Oooooo, it would smack me. Dude you need to get a grip and stop acting like a major hermit.Eurobacca

ghost reccon is very tecnical....but i have to admit that we dont have any flight simulator!

but tecnical and graphic departments are completly diferent things

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"]They think cause they got to press 10 to 20 keyboard keys it's more technical and cause they use their mouse to aim it's more special!Vandalvideo

That sounds like fun! Why don't you get off your butt and join the military if you really want to get tactical?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.HSYOON_1

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.

Because you clearly havnt played any PC RS shooters....

That sounds like fun! Why don't you get off your butt and join the military if you really want to get tactical?Eurobacca

[QUOTE="HSYOON_1"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Eurobacca

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.

They think cause they got to press 10 to 20 keyboard keys it's more technical and cause they use their mouse to aim it's more special!

Lemmings think games with crosshairs directly where you aim while your back is turned is an RS ... where your life automatically regenrates is an RS :lol: ... funny stuff. .. get some intelligence.

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"]They think cause they got to press 10 to 20 keyboard keys it's more technical and cause they use their mouse to aim it's more special!Vandalvideo

Yeah that was missing...now that I think about some of the other Rainbow Six games I have played, this one is missing some things..damn I was fooled:(.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Once again, we're talking gameplay here. Its already been established that ino rder to appeal to a more widestream (console) audience, lots of developers end up toning down the gameplay, hence consolization/casualization if yo're PC.Zeliard9

Sorry, just no.

As a fan of LGS and System Shock 2, it was obvious they couldn't make SS3 due to legal issues, yet if it was SS3, no one would complain much that its more of the same of SS2.

Half Life 2 was a "fresh coat of paint" from Half Life 1.

Halo 3 is a "fresh coat of paint" of Halo 2.

As a spiritual successor, Bioshock was going to be a fresh coat of paint of System Shock 2.

Making it a console game too had nothing to do with it. No, not even the harsh weapon degrading system which has seemingly been taken out.

You have to admt there were some consoleriffic features in Bioshock, though. Like the shimmering loot, the usable object highlight, the adaptive training, the *quest arrow* that literally dynamically points you exactly where you need to go. This is all stuff you wouldn't have found in Bioshock if it was PC-only, I assure you. And I'm not complaining about those things since you can turn them off, but they are very clear examples of the "consolization" of Bioshock.

Crysis caters to the high-end PC gamer market- now thats fine & dandy- no doubt the game will win many awards- but the beauty of the humble games console is that more people can enjoy a similar gaming experience albeit at a reduced technical level. If ur having a good time & still getting pretty impressive A.I. physics & visuals thenI see no problem with consoles.

the only thing thats keeping games consoles back- i feel is the reluctance of adopting the kb/m for use in RTS games- sure the devs can do a lot with a quality gamepad like the X360 pad but its not cut out for RTS when compared to a kb/m.

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

I do have a gaming PC and nothing on it looks better than Halo 3 or Gears, I pre-ordered Crysis yesterday at Gamespot(got a free dvd with screenshots and 2 videos on it - whoop)and the PC selection for PC games might as well be dead with a bunch of games with horrible graphics that looked 5 or 6 years behind

naval

lol, what can i say

Say some games that look great, cause they don't. The only good looking games were the console ports like stranglehold, etc,etc

Stalker looks like a big pile of poo next to Gears and Halo 3 and I play Stalker on max settings

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Once again, we're talking gameplay here. Its already been established that ino rder to appeal to a more widestream (console) audience, lots of developers end up toning down the gameplay, hence consolization/casualization if yo're PC.Zeliard9

Sorry, just no.

As a fan of LGS and System Shock 2, it was obvious they couldn't make SS3 due to legal issues, yet if it was SS3, no one would complain much that its more of the same of SS2.

Half Life 2 was a "fresh coat of paint" from Half Life 1.

Halo 3 is a "fresh coat of paint" of Halo 2.

As a spiritual successor, Bioshock was going to be a fresh coat of paint of System Shock 2.

Making it a console game too had nothing to do with it. No, not even the harsh weapon degrading system which has seemingly been taken out.

You have to admt there were some consoleriffic features in Bioshock, though. Like the shimmering loot, the usable object highlight, the adaptive training, the *quest arrow* that literally dynamically points you exactly where you need to go. This is all stuff you wouldn't have found in Bioshock if it was PC-only, I assure you. And I'm not complaining about those things since you can turn them off, but they are very clear examples of the "consolization" of Bioshock.

Average scores for fps in last 12 months

pc: 74.4

360: 75.8 (even with the dead weight hour of victory)

hermits can talk about standards all they like, but i'd prefer to listen to professional reviewers thanks.

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"][QUOTE="HSYOON_1"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Meu2k7

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.

They think cause they got to press 10 to 20 keyboard keys it's more technical and cause they use their mouse to aim it's more special!

Lemmings think games with crosshairs directly where you aim while your back is turned is an RS ... where your life automatically regenrates is an RS :lol: ... funny stuff. .. get some intelligence.

Oh let me guess! you're intelligent cause you play "games" on a PC?

[QUOTE="HSYOON_1"]yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.Vandalvideo

no my opinion that "it's the most fun i have ever had" is a FACT, because i'm only referring to myself. Your claims are somehow drawing conclusions from the entire RS community that RSV sucks.

I play RSV with college buddies and family members who used to play the ORIGINAL Rainbow six, and I haveyet to beslapped by any of them yet. Actually almost all of them really like the new rainbow six. we all agree that it's no longer the same game, but that doesn't make it bad.

Please do NOT assume i have never played the original RS games. I have been a PC gamer ever since i got my 286 with dune 1 and Wing commander 1. The last console i had before my 360, was a SNES when i was still in High School, and I have to admit, that the 360 is actually a pretty good gaming machine.

Say some games that look great, cause they don't. The only good looking games were the console ports like stranglehold, etc,etc

Stalker looks like a big pile of poo next to Gears and Halo 3 and I play Stalker on max settings

Eurobacca

[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

I do have a gaming PC and nothing on it looks better than Halo 3 or Gears, I pre-ordered Crysis yesterday at Gamespot(got a free dvd with screenshots and 2 videos on it - whoop)and the PC selection for PC games might as well be dead with a bunch of games with horrible graphics that looked 5 or 6 years behind

Eurobacca

lol, what can i say

Say some games that look great, cause they don't. The only good looking games were the console ports like stranglehold, etc,etc

Stalker looks like a big pile of poo next to Gears and Halo 3 and I play Stalker on max settings

:lol: PC was the lead development platform for Stanglehold even said by the devs just before release, self-owned.

[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

I do have a gaming PC and nothing on it looks better than Halo 3 or Gears, I pre-ordered Crysis yesterday at Gamespot(got a free dvd with screenshots and 2 videos on it - whoop)and the PC selection for PC games might as well be dead with a bunch of games with horrible graphics that looked 5 or 6 years behind

Eurobacca

lol, what can i say

Say some games that look great, cause they don't. The only good looking games were the console ports like stranglehold, etc,etc

Stalker looks like a big pile of poo next to Gears and Halo 3 and I play Stalker on max settings

Crysis caters to the high-end PC gamer market- now thats fine & dandy- no doubt the game will win many awards- but the beauty of the humble games console is that more people can enjoy a similar gaming experience albeit at a reduced technical level. If ur having a good time & still getting pretty impressive A.I. physics & visuals thenI see no problem with consoles.

the only thing thats keeping games consoles back- i feel is the reluctance of adopting the kb/m for use in RTS games- sure the devs can do a lot with a quality gamepad like the X360 pad but its not cut out for RTS when compared to a kb/m.

CwlHeddwyn

The Wii seems to have figured out a nice workaround. I predict that if we don't see a kb/m standardized on consoles, they'll start to include motion-sensing capabilities mainly for shooters. It's way more accurate than analog joysticks. If nothing else, at least Nintendo showed us that.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"][QUOTE="HSYOON_1"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Eurobacca

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.

They think cause they got to press 10 to 20 keyboard keys it's more technical and cause they use their mouse to aim it's more special!

Lemmings think games with crosshairs directly where you aim while your back is turned is an RS ... where your life automatically regenrates is an RS :lol: ... funny stuff. .. get some intelligence.

Oh let me guess! you're intelligent cause you play "games" on a PC?

I use common sense, you dont, thefore that seems to be just 1 coincidence ... go now ... play your Halos.

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"][QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

I do have a gaming PC and nothing on it looks better than Halo 3 or Gears, I pre-ordered Crysis yesterday at Gamespot(got a free dvd with screenshots and 2 videos on it - whoop)and the PC selection for PC games might as well be dead with a bunch of games with horrible graphics that looked 5 or 6 years behind

Meu2k7

lol, what can i say

Say some games that look great, cause they don't. The only good looking games were the console ports like stranglehold, etc,etc

Stalker looks like a big pile of poo next to Gears and Halo 3 and I play Stalker on max settings

:lol: PC was the lead development platform for Stanglehold even said by the devs just before release, self-owned.

Really? I did not know that:(

[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HSYOON_1"]yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="HSYOON_1"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]He's basically saying that console shooters need to be more tactical and less run and gun.Meu2k7

Like Rainbow Six vegas? derrrrr or Shadowrun which is more technical than any PC only exclusive.

yet it's the most fun i have ever had playing a RS game.

Because you clearly havnt played any PC RS shooters....

i haven't?? wow, some hermit really have a inferior complex. when did you start playing PC games? I started with a 286 with Wing Commander and Dune.

[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Eurobacca"]

I do have a gaming PC and nothing on it looks better than Halo 3 or Gears, I pre-ordered Crysis yesterday at Gamespot(got a free dvd with screenshots and 2 videos on it - whoop)and the PC selection for PC games might as well be dead with a bunch of games with horrible graphics that looked 5 or 6 years behind

Eurobacca

lol, what can i say

Say some games that look great, cause they don't. The only good looking games were the console ports like stranglehold, etc,etc

Stalker looks like a big pile of poo next to Gears and Halo 3 and I play Stalker on max settings

That was not what i had in mind, i was think more on the lines of fanboys can be so funny

See this is why 360 fanboys are the worst...they can never admit that a genre is superior on another platform...no console games have done anything that wasnt done on the PC before...it was just dumbed down for consoles so that "other" people would want to play the games.