Dante's Inferno GS review - 6.5

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#101 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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you couldn't be more wrong. it is opinions that shape and form this world that you live in. you might like that jellybean, but it means jack **** when the majority has a collective opinion that leads to that jellybean being illegal and you suffering the death penalty for consuming it. get some perspective. you might enjoy it, but it doesn't make it right or more valid than other opinions.3picuri3
You are taking Skittles' post a little out of context.
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#102 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]you couldn't be more wrong. it is opinions that shape and form this world that you live in. you might like that jellybean, but it means jack **** when the majority has a collective opinion that leads to that jellybean being illegal and you suffering the death penalty for consuming it. get some perspective. you might enjoy it, but it doesn't make it right or more valid than other opinions.IronBass
You are taking Skittles' post a little out of context.

not at all, it was a blanket statement regardless of what it was replying to.
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#103 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Giancar"] yeah, specially when you have the majority backing yours up, isn't it? :o3picuri3

Not really. Opinions hold no value. Essentially, I have a single red jellybean. you have 100 blue jellybeans. Any jellybean is worth 0 cents, no money at all. You might have more, but they're not worth more. My jellybean is still mine and I can still enjoy it.

you couldn't be more wrong. it is opinions that shape and form this world that you live in. you might like that jellybean, but it means jack **** when the majority has a collective opinion that leads to that jellybean being illegal and you suffering the death penalty for consuming it. get some perspective. you might enjoy it, but it doesn't make it right or more valid than other opinions.

That was horrible, I seriously wonder how in the world you came up with that. Laws and opinions are two extremely different things. Seriously. Where did that even come from? In any case, you strayed far from my point. My opinions mine, whats it matter what other opinions are? It doesn't.
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#105 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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not at all, it was a blanket statement regardless of what it was replying to.3picuri3
His post was about how the collective having an opinion about something does not necessary affect what he thinks about it. And you started talking about legality and about his opinion being more valid or not, which has nothing to do with what he said.
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#106 Kevin-V
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I need to run, but a few thoughts to add based on my time with the game. (I didn't review it, but have a lot to say about it; we might dedicate an entire podcast to the game.)

The first third of the game may be a rip-off, but it's also great fun; your first two or three hours will probably be really enjoyable. New enemies get introduced, it's interesting to descend into the circles, and the combat, while not exceptional, is flashy and colorful. I am also a big fan of the storytelling, for while it might cause Virgil to roll in his grave, the narrative is surprisingly decent, and the animated cutscenes are beautifully done.

The middle third settles. It isn't bad, but the game starts to lose steam. The enemies it introduces are more annoying than interesting, and there's a reliance on underwhelming platforming. It's here that the sound design started to bother me. I know this is hell--but that doesn't mean it's a place I want to be while I play a game. The groans, the howls, the cries, the squeals--they don't let up. It started to wear on me, as if I was playing with a box of bricks on my head. While Christian parents would deplore this game for its violence and gratuitous shots of boobs and wang (yeah, you get to see two wangs, one of which is OH MY GOD WANG!), I say, let your kids play it. They will want to avoid hell.

But at least I respect that the devs nailed what they were going for, even if the game started to feel heavy, and the fun started to get sucked away through monotony and lame puzzles. But the final third is a complete disaster. It starts with a backtracking sequence--the first in the game--and once you reach the repeated battle arenas, you know they ran out of ideas, or time, or money. There simply is no level design here; you just move to the next arena, which looks like the last--you even do variations of the same platforming bit to get to it. By this point, the game has gone from up-and-down challenge to shockingly easy, and it ends with the most laborious and annoying walk across a bridge that you could imagine. Four or five minutes of just walking. And this was the leadup to the final boss.

I could say a lot more. Combat balance issues; that stupid absolution minigame; and so on. The thing is, I like Dante's Inferno, but I couldn't in good conscience call it "good." Not when I can play God of War Collection and get a superior experience from games that came out years ago. How much you like Dante's Inferno I think depends on how far the core combat gets you. If you like hack and slash, this is a reasonable rental, or maybe even a purchase. But if you would rather spend money on games that will make you want to grab it off the shelf in a few months and play some more of it, this one just isn't going to do it.

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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]not at all, it was a blanket statement regardless of what it was replying to.IronBass
His post was about how the collective having an opinion about something does not necessary affect what he thinks about it. And you started talking about legality and about his opinion being more valid or not, which has nothing to do with what he said.

he said 'opinions hold no value' - neither of you stand a chance of gaining any ground against that. maybe 'skittles' should pick his / her words more carefully.
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maybe 'skittles' should pick his / her words more carefully. 3picuri3
Maybe you should pay more attention to the context of the discussion. ;)
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]maybe 'skittles' should pick his / her words more carefully. IronBass
Maybe you should pay more attention to the context of the discussion. ;)

context has everything to do with the discussion and the response. maybe you should pay more attention to logical discourse? you can throw context out the window with a poorly framed inarticulate response. especially if it is a statment. logic calculus minor degree here :).

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#110 Epak_
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Watched the review and couldn't be happier that my copy of GoW collection is on its way.

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#111 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] you couldn't be more wrong. it is opinions that shape and form this world that you live in. you might like that jellybean, but it means jack **** when the majority has a collective opinion that leads to that jellybean being illegal and you suffering the death penalty for consuming it. get some perspective. you might enjoy it, but it doesn't make it right or more valid than other opinions.

3picuri3

That was horrible, I seriously wonder how in the world you came up with that. Laws and opinions are two extremely different things. Seriously. Where did that even come from? In any case, you strayed far from my point. My opinions mine, whats it matter what other opinions are? It doesn't.

it was meant to be ridiculous to counter your ridiculous statement. opinions lead to law in a democratic society too :) so double fail?

Whats ridiculous about the statement my opinion is my own and I don't have to care what other opinions are? :| Are you just desperate to "own" somebody? And also, opinions can lead to law but they are not the basis. Making murder illegal wasn't an opinion. It was the basis of an internal moral compass. You could say "Oh but i think its right" but there was something pre-built into you saying otherwise. Essentially arguing opinion vs fact.

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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Giancar"] yeah, specially when you have the majority backing yours up, isn't it? :o3picuri3

Not really. Opinions hold no value. Essentially, I have a single red jellybean. you have 100 blue jellybeans. Any jellybean is worth 0 cents, no money at all. You might have more, but they're not worth more. My jellybean is still mine and I can still enjoy it.

you couldn't be more wrong. it is opinions that shape and form this world that you live in. you might like that jellybean, but it means jack **** when the majority has a collective opinion that leads to that jellybean being illegal and you suffering the death penalty for consuming it. get some perspective. you might enjoy it, but it doesn't make it right or more valid than other opinions.

So your opinion is that because the many can force the few to do what they want, then that is the "right" path? Wow... no wonder the world is full of war/genecide.

When the majority of the world believed the world to be flat, did that make the world flat?

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#113 Drakes_Fortune
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Expected, the demo was crap. Im glad its getting bad scores, i hope the sales fail too. Thers nothing wrong with being inspired on somoene else game, but this is a complete rip off. Its just unfair to have so much work creating a game so that somoene else completely copies it. They copied another game for the gameplay and the story from a book. Did these guys bothered to do anything new? Ill just stick with the GoW, thats the original and the better game
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#114 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] That was horrible, I seriously wonder how in the world you came up with that. Laws and opinions are two extremely different things. Seriously. Where did that even come from? In any case, you strayed far from my point. My opinions mine, whats it matter what other opinions are? It doesn't.Skittles_McGee

it was meant to be ridiculous to counter your ridiculous statement. opinions lead to law in a democratic society too :) so double fail?

Whats ridiculous about the statement my opinion is my own and I don't have to care what other opinions are? :| Are you just desperate to "own" somebody? And also, opinions can lead to law but they are not the basis. Making murder illegal wasn't an opinion. It was the basis of an internal moral compass. You could say "Oh but i think its right" but there was something pre-built into you saying otherwise. Essentially arguing opinion vs fact.

no, i'm not desperate to 'own' anyone. i just despise people abusing english and semantics for the purpose of argument. especially when the statement contradictis itself within the space of half a dozen words.
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#116 Odrec
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Teh Floppage!!! :P Now seriously. i feared this was going to happen after playing the demo. A bad clone of a great game is BAD.
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#117 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"] it was meant to be ridiculous to counter your ridiculous statement. opinions lead to law in a democratic society too :) so double fail?3picuri3

Whats ridiculous about the statement my opinion is my own and I don't have to care what other opinions are? :| Are you just desperate to "own" somebody? And also, opinions can lead to law but they are not the basis. Making murder illegal wasn't an opinion. It was the basis of an internal moral compass. You could say "Oh but i think its right" but there was something pre-built into you saying otherwise. Essentially arguing opinion vs fact.

no, i'm not desperate to 'own' anyone. i just despise people abusing english and semantics for the purpose of argument. especially when the statement contradictis itself within the space of half a dozen words.

Then you must be full of self-loathing. There's no semantics and there wasn't even an argument. I said "Hey, my opinion is what it is. These other opinions are no more valuable to me than my own". It should have been done at that. I don't even know what you're droning on about now. You're the same guy that claimed there was some conspiracy theory and Couth rigged the votes when UC2 won SW's GOTY so I'm really finding it hard to believe you're not acting out of some kind of desperation. Whatever. This is way off the topic at hand, let it go please.
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context has everything to do with the discussion and the response. 3picuri3
Exactly. The context of his post and his example were about a personal preference over something, and how the collective having a different preference may mean nothing to the individual with said preference. Legality or who's opinion has more value have nothing to do with that context.
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#119 Merex760
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This game reminds me of when companies fail at trying to re-create World of Warcraft's success with mediocre copies. That's exactly what Dante's Inferno is.

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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Whats ridiculous about the statement my opinion is my own and I don't have to care what other opinions are? :| Are you just desperate to "own" somebody? And also, opinions can lead to law but they are not the basis. Making murder illegal wasn't an opinion. It was the basis of an internal moral compass. You could say "Oh but i think its right" but there was something pre-built into you saying otherwise. Essentially arguing opinion vs fact.

Skittles_McGee

no, i'm not desperate to 'own' anyone. i just despise people abusing english and semantics for the purpose of argument. especially when the statement contradictis itself within the space of half a dozen words.

Then you must be full of self-loathing. There's no semantics and there wasn't even an argument. I said "Hey, my opinion is what it is. These other opinions are no more valuable to me than my own". It should have been done at that. I don't even know what you're droning on about now. You're the same guy that claimed there was some conspiracy theory and Couth rigged the votes when UC2 won SW's GOTY so I'm really finding it hard to believe you're not acting out of some kind of desperation. Whatever. This is way off the topic at hand, let it go please.

no, you didn't. you just re-framed what you said. it does make more sense now and i guess that is better than nothing, even though you had to frame your response in an incredibly defensive fashion. and to correct you this has everything to do with semantics.

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#121 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"] context has everything to do with the discussion and the response. IronBass
Exactly. The context of his post and his example were about a personal preference over something, and how the collective having a different preference may mean nothing to the individual with said preference. Legality or who's opinion has more value have nothing to do with that context.

it has everything to do with what his original statement was. it was a direct analogous statment meant to underline the poor choice of words used to pin another user down. had it been framed differently it would have had different implications in the argument. no need to keep playing batman here ironbass, i got my point across.
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#122 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] no, i'm not desperate to 'own' anyone. i just despise people abusing english and semantics for the purpose of argument. especially when the statement contradictis itself within the space of half a dozen words.3picuri3

Then you must be full of self-loathing. There's no semantics and there wasn't even an argument. I said "Hey, my opinion is what it is. These other opinions are no more valuable to me than my own". It should have been done at that. I don't even know what you're droning on about now. You're the same guy that claimed there was some conspiracy theory and Couth rigged the votes when UC2 won SW's GOTY so I'm really finding it hard to believe you're not acting out of some kind of desperation. Whatever. This is way off the topic at hand, let it go please.

no, you didn't. you just re-framed what you said. it does make more sense now and i guess that is better than nothing, even though you had to frame your response in an incredibly defensive fashion.

I wouldn't have to restate what I said if someone wasn't so convinced he found some major flaw in my reasoning and had nothing better to do than relentlessly attack my point of view for some nonsensical reason. :roll: Are we done now?
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I need to run, but a few thoughts to add based on my time with the game. (I didn't review it, but have a lot to say about it; we might dedicate an entire podcast to the game.)

The first third of the game may be a rip-off, but it's also great fun; your first two or three hours will probably be really enjoyable. New enemies get introduced, it's interesting to descend into the circles, and the combat, while not exceptional, is flashy and colorful. I am also a big fan of the storytelling, for while it might cause Virgil to roll in his grave, the narrative is surprisingly decent, and the animated cutscenes are beautifully done.

The middle third settles. It isn't bad, but the game starts to lose steam. The enemies it introduces are more annoying than interesting, and there's a reliance on underwhelming platforming. It's here that the sound design started to bother me. I know this is hell--but that doesn't mean it's a place I want to be while I play a game. The groans, the howls, the cries, the squeals--they don't let up. It started to wear on me, as if I was playing with a box of bricks on my head. While Christian parents would deplore this game for its violence and gratuitous shots of boobs and wang (yeah, you get to see two wangs, one of which is OH MY GOD WANG!), I say, let your kids play it. They will want to avoid hell.

But at least I respect that the devs nailed what they were going for, even if the game started to feel heavy, and the fun started to get sucked away through monotony and lame puzzles. But the final third is a complete disaster. It starts with a backtracking sequence--the first in the game--and once you reach the repeated battle arenas, you know they ran out of ideas, or time, or money. There simply is no level design here; you just move to the next arena, which looks like the last--you even do variations of the same platforming bit to get to it. By this point, the game has gone from up-and-down challenge to shockingly easy, and it ends with the most laborious and annoying walk across a bridge that you could imagine. Four or five minutes of just walking. And this was the leadup to the final boss.

I could say a lot more. Combat balance issues; that stupid absolution minigame; and so on. The thing is, I like Dante's Inferno, but I couldn't in good conscience call it "good." Not when I can play God of War Collection and get a superior experience from games that came out years ago. How much you like Dante's Inferno I think depends on how far the core combat gets you. If you like hack and slash, this is a reasonable rental, or maybe even a purchase. But if you would rather spend money on games that will make you want to grab it off the shelf in a few months and play some more of it, this one just isn't going to do it.

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I guess something went really wrong with the game is what you say is true. Maybe they did ran out of money, time, etc. After playing the demo I could see this happening because the game was so similar to GOW but yet it felt like a cheap copy at the same time.
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#124 Kevin-V
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]not at all, it was a blanket statement regardless of what it was replying to.3picuri3
His post was about how the collective having an opinion about something does not necessary affect what he thinks about it. And you started talking about legality and about his opinion being more valid or not, which has nothing to do with what he said.

he said 'opinions hold no value' - neither of you stand a chance of gaining any ground against that. maybe 'skittles' should pick his / her words more carefully.

Well perhaps we need to reword a bit. I do not agree that opinions have no value; but I do believe that opinions only have the value you assign to them. There is no governing body of "opinion," no "Antiques Roadshow" of opinion. There is no objective value that can be assigned to an opinion, so its worth is purely that which is assigned to it. By nature, the human condition is that you assign great value to your own opinion, and less value to the opinion of others.


Regardless, the jelly bean argument is sound and sensible, while the statements regarding illegalities do not apply and seem irrelevant. His point still stands: Your perception that your own opinions have greater value than another's are sensible only because you are you. Because value is perceived and not assigned by a governing body, an opinion is only as meaningful as you allow it to be. But if you find it meaningless, that does not mean that others do, and in fact, there may be a great many others that find great value in it.

The shorter version of this is the old "opinions are like **** adage.

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#125 Panosola
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I don't think it is a fair review for DI.You don't review a game comparing another game.........god of War this...god of War that and that.The game is good and it is worth 8~8,5.DI have get 8.8 from Digital Chumps......i have see many gameplay videos for this game and i don't think 6,5 it is a fair score for DI.I will still get the game.

http://www.digitalchumps.com/game-reviews/34-360/4503-dantes-inferno.html

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it has everything to do with what his original statement was. it was a direct analogous statment meant to underline the poor choice of words used to pin another user down. had it been framed differently it would have had different implications in the argument. no need to keep playing batman here ironbass, i got my point across.3picuri3
A direct analogy in a clear context. Ignoring the context makes the analogy pointless. In context, the analogy makes perfect sense, and that's why everybody here perfectly understood what he meant with that analogy.
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#127 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Then you must be full of self-loathing. There's no semantics and there wasn't even an argument. I said "Hey, my opinion is what it is. These other opinions are no more valuable to me than my own". It should have been done at that. I don't even know what you're droning on about now. You're the same guy that claimed there was some conspiracy theory and Couth rigged the votes when UC2 won SW's GOTY so I'm really finding it hard to believe you're not acting out of some kind of desperation. Whatever. This is way off the topic at hand, let it go please.Skittles_McGee

no, you didn't. you just re-framed what you said. it does make more sense now and i guess that is better than nothing, even though you had to frame your response in an incredibly defensive fashion.

I wouldn't have to restate what I said if someone wasn't so convinced he found some major flaw in my reasoning and had nothing better to do than relentlessly attack my point of view for some nonsensical reason. :roll: Are we done now?

i wouldn't have had to say anything had you properly said what you meant to say instead of telling another poster that opinions are meaningless. this place is full of people spewing similar stuff instead of actually arguing and discussing things based on their merits. you can drop the defensive attitude and mud-slinging based on past events, but i honestly take is as a great compliment considering i must have resounded with you considering i post here very infrequently.
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I don't think it is a fair review for DI.You don't review a game comparing another game.........god of War this...god of War that and that.The game is good and it is worth 8~8,5.DI have get 8.8 from Digital Chumps......i have see many gameplay videos for this game and i don't think 6,5 it is a fair score for DI.

http://www.digitalchumps.com/game-reviews/34-360/4503-dantes-inferno.html

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:o I was expecting an 8.5 before IGN's review. Dang I was dead wrong...Looks like a rental for me. In the end, there will be only chaos!
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Seems right

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#131 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] no, you didn't. you just re-framed what you said. it does make more sense now and i guess that is better than nothing, even though you had to frame your response in an incredibly defensive fashion.

3picuri3

I wouldn't have to restate what I said if someone wasn't so convinced he found some major flaw in my reasoning and had nothing better to do than relentlessly attack my point of view for some nonsensical reason. :roll: Are we done now?

i wouldn't have had to say anything had you properly said what you meant to say instead of telling another poster that opinions are meaningless. this place is full of people spewing similar stuff instead of actually arguing and discussing things based on their merits. you can drop the defensive attitude and mud-slinging based on past events, but i honestly take is as a great compliment considering i must have resounded with you considering i post here very infrequently.

Apparently I said my thoughts correctly. IronBass and KevinV seem to have understood them perfectly. You're the only one making such claims, harassing me over nothing.

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#132 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"] it has everything to do with what his original statement was. it was a direct analogous statment meant to underline the poor choice of words used to pin another user down. had it been framed differently it would have had different implications in the argument. no need to keep playing batman here ironbass, i got my point across.IronBass
A direct analogy in a clear context. Ignoring the context makes the analogy pointless. In context, the analogy makes perfect sense, and that's why everybody here perfectly understood what he meant with that analogy.

no, ironbass. there is no situation, regardless of contextual reference, where that statement would be acceptable in argument. perhaps this is the reason SW just gets mired in these petty arguments all the time these days.... analogy is meant to be analogy. an abstract statment meant to illustrate a point in context. when you use part of the context to make analogy you break the analogy and confuse the argument by drawing argument to abstract. this is SIMPLE stuff.
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#133 Kevin-V
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I don't think it is a fair review for DI.You don't review a game comparing another game.........god of War this...god of War that and that.The game is good and it is worth 8~8,5.DI have get 8.8 from Digital Chumps......i have see many gameplay videos for this game and i don't think 6,5 it is a fair score for DI.

http://www.digitalchumps.com/game-reviews/34-360/4503-dantes-inferno.html

Panosola
A game that shamelessly copies another invites itself to be compared. Our job is to put a game in context, and making comparisons to the game Dante's Inferno essentially copies is a perfectly valid action. But the comparisons to GoW aren't nearly as plentiful as you would have us think ;). I notice, however, that you didn't link to, say, 1UP's review, or IGN's. Is that because they don't support your claim, while the Digital Chumps review does? I can pick a non-GameSpot review and make it support my opinion too!
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#135 rolo107
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That review was very meh... God of War this, God of War that.
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#136 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"] i wouldn't have had to say anything had you properly said what you meant to say instead of telling another poster that opinions are meaningless. this place is full of people spewing similar stuff instead of actually arguing and discussing things based on their merits. you can drop the defensive attitude and mud-slinging based on past events, but i honestly take is as a great compliment considering i must have resounded with you considering i post here very infrequently.3picuri3

Apparently I said my thoughts correctly. IronBass and KevinV seem to have understood them perfectly. You're the only one making such claims, harassing me over nothing.

i have only seen IB respond directly to what i criticized and he obviously has issues understanding the issue as well. either way, i'm not here to teach a course, enjoy your night 'skittles'.

Yes, everybody has issues understanding. They're all fools and you're the only one who gets it :roll: Give it a rest now. Please.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] it has everything to do with what his original statement was. it was a direct analogous statment meant to underline the poor choice of words used to pin another user down. had it been framed differently it would have had different implications in the argument. no need to keep playing batman here ironbass, i got my point across.3picuri3
A direct analogy in a clear context. Ignoring the context makes the analogy pointless. In context, the analogy makes perfect sense, and that's why everybody here perfectly understood what he meant with that analogy.

no, ironbass. there is no situation, regardless of contextual reference, where that statement would be acceptable in argument. perhaps this is the reason SW just gets mired in these petty arguments all the time these days.... analogy is meant to be analogy. an abstract statment meant to illustrate a point in context. when you use part of the context to make analogy you break the analogy and confuse the argument by drawing argument to abstract. this is SIMPLE stuff.

Everything in a discussion is meant to be taken in the context of said discussion. As I said, that's the reason why we all understood perfectly what he meant.
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#139 C_BozkurT_C
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Man that's a shame.

I'm gonna pick it up down the line def, but what happened to this being better than GOW

I remember a few people mentioning that.

Animal-Mother
yes, we call those lemmings
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#140 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Apparently I said my thoughts correctly. IronBass and KevinV seem to have understood them perfectly. You're the only one making such claims, harassing me over nothing.

Skittles_McGee

i have only seen IB respond directly to what i criticized and he obviously has issues understanding the issue as well. either way, i'm not here to teach a course, enjoy your night 'skittles'.

Yes, everybody has issues understanding. They're all fools and you're the only one who gets it :roll: Give it a rest now. Please.

right, english and logic and discourse are only clear to me. right-o. and just a hint skittles - i would never take orders or requests from you, so save it. goodnight.

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#141 DaViD_99
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] no, ironbass. there is no situation, regardless of contextual reference, where that statement would be acceptable in argument. perhaps this is the reason SW just gets mired in these petty arguments all the time these days.... analogy is meant to be analogy. an abstract statment meant to illustrate a point in context. when you use part of the context to make analogy you break the analogy and confuse the argument by drawing argument to abstract. this is SIMPLE stuff. 3picuri3
Everything in a discussion is meant to be taken in the context of said discussion. As I said, that's the reason why we all understood perfectly what he meant.

then i guess you're all perfectly suited to discuss and argue with eachother :) enjoy. i'll keep guard over at the realm of proper english... no need to join me, i'm fine here by myself.

blarg
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#142 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="DaViD_99"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Everything in a discussion is meant to be taken in the context of said discussion. As I said, that's the reason why we all understood perfectly what he meant.

then i guess you're all perfectly suited to discuss and argue with eachother :) enjoy. i'll keep guard over at the realm of proper english... no need to join me, i'm fine here by myself.

blarg

my thoughts exactly.
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#143 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Man that's a shame.

I'm gonna pick it up down the line def, but what happened to this being better than GOW

I remember a few people mentioning that.

C_BozkurT_C

yes, we call those lemmings

Where there people who thought DI would be better than GoW? DI has to be one of the worst Action titles to come out this gen along side with Bullet Witch and Ninja Blade.

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#144 salxis
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

I don't think it is a fair review for DI.You don't review a game comparing another game.........god of War this...god of War that and that.The game is good and it is worth 8~8,5.DI have get 8.8 from Digital Chumps......i have see many gameplay videos for this game and i don't think 6,5 it is a fair score for DI.

http://www.digitalchumps.com/game-reviews/34-360/4503-dantes-inferno.html

Kevin-V
A game that shamelessly copies another invites itself to be compared. Our job is to put a game in context, and making comparisons to the game Dante's Inferno essentially copies is a perfectly valid action. But the comparisons to GoW aren't nearly as plentiful as you would have us think ;). I notice, however, that you didn't link to, say, 1UP's review, or IGN's. Is that because they don't support your claim, while the Digital Chumps review does? I can pick a non-GameSpot review and make it support my opinion too!

Kevin you totally overrated ME2, I mean Gamecritic gave it a 7.5 http://www.gamecritics.com/brad-gallaway/mass-effect-2-review don't you dare mention IGN, 1-up, Euro gamer, Edge etc, their opinions don't match my, and I have no respect for them at all. :P
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#145 BlindfireMcgee
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"T3H GOW 3 KILLA!"- Ignorance straight from the mouth of a Lemming, just one thing in a long line of false, and ill-informed predictions.

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#146 Panosola
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

I don't think it is a fair review for DI.You don't review a game comparing another game.........god of War this...god of War that and that.The game is good and it is worth 8~8,5.DI have get 8.8 from Digital Chumps......i have see many gameplay videos for this game and i don't think 6,5 it is a fair score for DI.

http://www.digitalchumps.com/game-reviews/34-360/4503-dantes-inferno.html

Kevin-V
A game that shamelessly copies another invites itself to be compared. Our job is to put a game in context, and making comparisons to the game Dante's Inferno essentially copies is a perfectly valid action. But the comparisons to GoW aren't nearly as plentiful as you would have us think ;). I notice, however, that you didn't link to, say, 1UP's review, or IGN's. Is that because they don't support your claim, while the Digital Chumps review does? I can pick a non-GameSpot review and make it support my opinion too!

I agree.....but even and IGN have gave 7,5.I don't say that it is a perfect game or better than God of War games but a 6,5 it is not a fair score...i mean there is a lot worst games out and DI it is worth at least a 7~8 score.....and because it just copy copy from God of War that it is not mean that it is not a good game.
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#147 salxis
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[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Man that's a shame.

I'm gonna pick it up down the line def, but what happened to this being better than GOW

I remember a few people mentioning that.

jasonharris48

yes, we call those lemmings

Where there people who thought DI would be better than GoW? DI has to be one of the worst Action titles to come out this gen along side with Bullet Witch and Ninja Blade.

Leave Ninja Blade out of this, it's actually a great rental with some fun action :D
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#148 Odrec
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[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Man that's a shame.

I'm gonna pick it up down the line def, but what happened to this being better than GOW

I remember a few people mentioning that.

jasonharris48

yes, we call those lemmings

Where there people who thought DI would be better than GoW? DI has to be one of the worst Action titles to come out this gen along side with Bullet Witch and Ninja Blade.

Panosola and Bioshockownz are two I remember. Both are lemmings.
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#149 Tekkenloving
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I was already on the fence about this game guess ill wait for a price slash, but wait does this mean that x-men origins: wolverine is a better gow rip-off then dante's inferno.
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#150 Jipset
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[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Man that's a shame.

I'm gonna pick it up down the line def, but what happened to this being better than GOW

I remember a few people mentioning that.

jasonharris48

yes, we call those lemmings

Where there people who thought DI would be better than GoW? DI has to be one of the worst Action titles to come out this gen along side with Bullet Witch and Ninja Blade.

Don't forgot Eragon. :P