Dark Souls is the most overrated crap ever

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Its not hard its challenging. Its not cheap, but it punishes you for mistakes. It forces you to think. Seeing as how it seems you aren't very good at doing that I can understand why this game isn't for you. 

mems_1224

How are any of those not qualified as thinking? Knowing enemies you encounter, their tendencies and how to deal with them on certain terrains. You can't walk in and mash attack buttons willy nilly and expect to win, and not have any punishments for making mistakes or doing something stupid. And Its not JUST about memorzing patterns and repeating or whatever its not contra. 

And I think there were about 3 or 4 times where I felt I had a cheap death. But that doesn't make the game inherently cheap or anything 

It's alright.  I enjoyed it. Definitely didn't hold my interest for very long, only like 1 and a half playthroughs spanning 35 hours.

and you know what's funny? That Famitsu flopped Demon's Souls but when they saw that the west market loved it then they rated Dark Souls very high even though both games are more or less the same thing.

I only find fighting the enemies fun because it actually feels like a proper fight instead of just mashing buttons and killing them for cannon fodder(which is still fun), however, I really despise the bosses. I know they're meant to be hard and you need to work harder but everytime you encounter one you're always massively underpowered, get dominated, then spend another 3 or 4 hours grinding so you can get a better chance. Now that's very RPG like and not player skill. Good thing you can bring other people into your world so they kill the enemies for you and you get free souls to level up on.

Wrote more than I thought I would o.o

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

How are any of those not qualified as thinking? Knowing enemies you encounter, their tendencies and how to deal with them on certain terrains. You can't walk in and mash attack buttons willy nilly and expect to win, and not have any punishments for making mistakes or doing something stupid. Its JUST about memorzing patterns and repeating or whatever its not contra.

And I think there were about 3 or 4 times where I felt I had a cheap death. But that doesn't make the game inherently cheap or anything

VendettaRed07

Well obvi. Thats why videogames can't be played by carrots.

Like,I don't think its like completely brilliant or anything but it does take a lot more thought and strategy in order to beat it than a lot of other console games right now. Generally I find when people complain about this being too hard is because they don't put any thought into what they are doing, and want to just run around swinging and shooting at everything..not because they are really trying hard and still loosing because of cheap/overpowered enemies, because its not like that.

Truth is the game is brilliant. Anyone in denial of that is a genuine fool. First, they didn't use the equivalent of 30 million U.S. dollars to serve us crap but insist it is fillet mignon. It's an example of "complex simplicity". The single player is a challenge and engaging, but it's the multiplayer where the genius lies. There is no game out there with a multiplayer like it. NONE. I'm not certain that anyone else has ever even tried!

Look at the landscape of rpg's. Some have fallen from grace for horrible later installments (Final Fantasy, Mass Effect) or are just immersive solitary experiences.

There is a reason that rpg lovers place this series top tier despite it being a smaller scale project (and budget) that is clearly noticeable.

AND their DLC wasn't a nickel n dime crapfest.

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="ultraking"]you type. but all i see is bullshit. ultraking

And Fallout is definitely not as repetitive as dark souls.You keep doing new,different quests,which help in advancing the story and reveal more about the world. In dark souls,all you do is raise your shield,swing your sword when the enemy's attack animation has completed a loop,and kill him.Repeat this 50 times.

WHY should I care about moving forward?The combat is boring,and there is no story.

The witcher 2 has repetitive gameplay,but the story was so good that I could not stop playing.

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Try New Vegas.

If you're feeling old school you could try Fallout 1 & 2, both amazing games, they don't make them like that anymore.

rjdofu

Sorry to butt in here, but I feel compelled to say that if anyone wishes to try the older Fallout games after not playing that type of game around their release date, I would suggest watching paint dry instead.  The excitement and fun factor increases ten fold.

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Try New Vegas.

If you're feeling old school you could try Fallout 1 & 2, both amazing games, they don't make them like that anymore.

Lucianu

Sorry to butt in here, but I feel compelled to say that if anyone wishes to try the older Fallout games after not playing that type of game around their release date, I would suggest watching paint dry instead.  The excitement and fun factor increases ten fold.

I don't agree, i played them around 2007 for the first time and fell inlove. The atmosphere accentuated by the amazing soundtrack, the magnificient quality of the writting, the fantastic SPECIAL role playing mechanics, the excellent turn based combat and the pace mold the game into a brilliant experience.

I also recommend playing it in HD (with the help of the quality mods). Playing it in its original 640x480 resolution is sh*t.  

I'm sure the writing and story were top notch and all(I only got a few hours into Fallout 1 before getting incredibly bored), and the games did capture the atmosphere of post apocalyptic wasteland more effectively than their current gen successors, but the gameplay...

Ugh.  The gameplay.  It's the same reason I could not get into Planescape, although I don't think they follow the same mechanics.  So many games I've heard of having these incredible stories that I'd like to experience, yet the games bore me to tears.  It's a shame.  I've always preferred faster paced stuff, and the combat in Fallout took place at the pace of a newborn crawling across a carpet.

Edit: I bought the Fallout Collection disc with 1, 2, and Fallout Tactics, but could not get Fallout 2 and Tactics to run for some reason, despite seeking extensively to find a solution.  I'm pretty bad at that sort of stuff pertaining to computers.  So I guess I can only comment on Fallout 1.

Terrible graphics, clunky controls, bad art design, always feels like everything looks the same.

Stupid AI with enemies falling off ledges.

How is this so highly rated by the gaming community? Because it's hard?

Give me Ninja Gaiden for a good challenge, Dark Souls sucks.

Yay!You finally managed to create a thread were you did not bash sony.

Its not hard its challenging. Its not cheap, but it punishes you for mistakes. It forces you to think. Seeing as how it seems you aren't very good at doing that I can understand why this game isn't for you. 

Its not hard its challenging. Its not cheap, but it punishes you for mistakes. It forces you to think. Seeing as how it seems you aren't very good at doing that I can understand why this game isn't for you. 

VendettaRed07

you suck tc

It's overrated, but it's far from crap.

It's overrated, but it's far from crap.

Sagem28

Yeah, Demon's Souls way better.

Yeah, Demon's Souls way better.

Gxgear

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Yeah, Demon's Souls way better.

ultraking

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Its not hard its challenging. Its not cheap, but it punishes you for mistakes. It forces you to think. Seeing as how it seems you aren't very good at doing that I can understand why this game isn't for you. 

VendettaRed07

How are any of those not qualified as thinking? Knowing enemies you encounter, their tendencies and how to deal with them on certain terrains. You can't walk in and mash attack buttons willy nilly and expect to win, and not have any punishments for making mistakes or doing something stupid. Its JUST about memorzing patterns and repeating or whatever its not contra. 

And I think there were about 3 or 4 times where I felt I had a cheap death. But that doesn't make the game inherently cheap or anything 

[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Yeah, Demon's Souls way better.

mems_1224

no it's not.

Agreed, I think it's slow, clunky, and ugly as well. I enjoy an element of speed when it comes to difficulty, and Dark Souls has none of that.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] Its not about being thinking and it is cheap sometimes. Its about grinding and memorizing the layouts, enemy types and enemy spawns. mems_1224

How are any of those not qualified as thinking? Knowing enemies you encounter, their tendencies and how to deal with them on certain terrains. You can't walk in and mash attack buttons willy nilly and expect to win, and not have any punishments for making mistakes or doing something stupid. Its JUST about memorzing patterns and repeating or whatever its not contra. 

And I think there were about 3 or 4 times where I felt I had a cheap death. But that doesn't make the game inherently cheap or anything 

Well obvi. Thats why videogames can't be played by carrots.

Like,I don't think its like completely brilliant or anything but it does take a lot more thought and strategy in order to beat it than a lot of other console games right now. Generally I find when people complain about this being too hard is because they don't put any thought into what they are doing, and want to just run around swinging and shooting at everything..not because they are really trying hard and still loosing because of cheap/overpowered enemies, because its not like that. 

No

That's not how you spell Fallout 3/NV.

Haha, you just suck at games, I highly recommend a new hobby :lol:

mark1982

lol

2deep4u

TC, I'm with you and fully support your opinion.

Agreed, I think it's slow, clunky, and ugly as well. I enjoy an element of speed when it comes to difficulty, and Dark Souls has none of that.

Renegade_Fury

Yes.  Yessss

Terrible graphics, clunky controls, bad art design, always feels like everything looks the same.

Stupid AI with enemies falling off ledges.

How is this so highly rated by the gaming community? Because it's hard?

Give me Ninja Gaiden for a good challenge, Dark Souls sucks.

robotapple

that ur opinion. for me it is the best game this gen. the only game im looking forward 2 this gen is dark souls 2. every person has different tastes

and you know what's funny? That Famitsu flopped Demon's Souls but when they saw that the west market loved it then they rated Dark Souls very high even though both games are more or less the same thing.

Gue1

this i have to disagree. demon souls is an outstanding game but dark souls is a huge improvement over demons souls. when from software release demon souls i thought they can never top it but when they released dark souls and i put many hours in it, when i played demon souls again i found it very inferior. this just shows how great that company is, i bet dark souls 2 will make dark souls look crap

[QUOTE="AcidThunder"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

They're completely different.

Michael0134567

You seem upset over the truth.

Terrible graphics, clunky controls, bad art design, always feels like everything looks the same.

Stupid AI with enemies falling off ledges.

How is this so highly rated by the gaming community? Because it's hard?

Give me Ninja Gaiden for a good challenge, Dark Souls sucks.

robotapple

It's clear you didn't even play past the first segment of the game because that is all you described. If you think a castle, lava field, and garden all "look the same", then why should anyone consider your opinion?

Now consider all the things you just listed. "Terrible graphics, clunky controls, bad art design, etc..."

And it STILL has all the type of praise its recieved. So your whining isn't actually a valid accusation of Dark Souls, but rather an indictment of so many other games within that genre because their massive budget and "epic" scale was STILL outdone!

Bravo!

I agree.Most boring game I have ever played.

Combat is fun for the first few hours,but after that it gets repetitive.Story is non-existent,so there's nothing motivating you to keep playing on.

Why people like this cr*p is beyond me.

And as he says such, IGN posts THIS

Gonna be interesting 

I agree.Most boring game I have ever played.

Combat is fun for the first few hours,but after that it gets repetitive.Story is non-existent,so there's nothing motivating you to keep playing on.

Why people like this cr*p is beyond me.

call_of_duty_10

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

I agree.Most boring game I have ever played.

Combat is fun for the first few hours,but after that it gets repetitive.Story is non-existent,so there's nothing motivating you to keep playing on.

Why people like this cr*p is beyond me.

ultraking

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

lol

2deep4u

mark1982

lol, SW brings out the best of us, with that said "BE WARY OF AMAZING CHEST" all that hype for tomorrow's reveal.

That's GOTY material right there.

Eh it deserved the praises it got mostly but some people (especially here and even neogaf) put the game on an insanely high pedestal that really shouldn't be so high anyways. It's a great rpg and one of my favorites but it baffles me when people say Dark Souls make other games boring or hearing the insanely absurd praises. That's just me though. Still a fantastic game and worth platinuming. I just need to check the dlc out for it.

[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

I agree.Most boring game I have ever played.

Combat is fun for the first few hours,but after that it gets repetitive.Story is non-existent,so there's nothing motivating you to keep playing on.

Why people like this cr*p is beyond me.

call_of_duty_10

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="ultraking"]every game gets repetitive after awhile. And there is a story in dark souls if you pay attention. ultraking

Terrible graphics, clunky controls, bad art design, always feels like everything looks the same.

Stupid AI with enemies falling off ledges.

How is this so highly rated by the gaming community? Because it's hard?

 

Give me Ninja Gaiden for a good challenge, Dark Souls sucks.

robotapple