Darksiders II Director: Wii U hardware "on par" with current gen

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

It's a weak console just like the Wii was a weak console, it's a gimmick device that has very little traction with the demographic that buys the newest versions of consoles on a regular basis.

Nintendo has been losing money since 2008 and the way the 3DS failed it's looking like soon they will be just making software for other companies

Make it cheap Nintendo, and I'll buy it.WithoutGraceXII

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

Jaysonguy

Stronger in what? PowerPC > gimped Pentium 3. It also has more RAM. I'll give the Xbox better shaders but there's nothing the Xbox could do that the Wii couldn't.

Wii was weak but it innovated the way games are played. For a so underpowered console it was a pure success.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

nameless12345

Stronger in what? PowerPC > gimped Pentium 3. It also has more RAM. I'll give the Xbox better shaders but there's nothing the Xbox could do that the Wii couldn't.

Wii was weak but it innovated the way games are played. For a so underpowered console it was a pure success.

Super Mario Galaxy 2(6.36 million)

Wii Sports Resort(29.87 million)

Wii Fit(22.61 million)

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

It's a weak console just like the Wii was a weak console, it's a gimmick device that has very little traction with the demographic that buys the newest versions of consoles on a regular basis.

Nintendo has been losing money since 2008 and the way the 3DS failed it's looking like soon they will be just making software for other companies

Jaysonguy

riiiiiiight....so the number 1 seller this generation in both console and handheld is just gonna magically give up making hardware because of a few fincancial hits???

well if that's the case sony would've dropped out of the hardware race when the PS2 launched....and the PSP.......and the PS3....oh and let's not forget the Vita

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

Grey_Eyed_Elf

Stronger in what? PowerPC > gimped Pentium 3. It also has more RAM. I'll give the Xbox better shaders but there's nothing the Xbox could do that the Wii couldn't.

Wii was weak but it innovated the way games are played. For a so underpowered console it was a pure success.

Super Mario Galaxy 2(6.36 million)

Wii Sports Resort(29.87 million)

Wii Fit(22.61 million)

Well yea, it was the first console to actually allow anyone to enjoy games.

You could include Mario Kart and New SMB sales.

once again Nintendo makes all their sheep folloers look like complete idiots.

well most of them at least, I do know a few nintendo fans who knew the hardware would be outdated still.

im saying this with a lot of respect in mind but everytime i get in to SW thread i always got the feeling like two "average" guy babling about how one of them got 1/2 inch longer while the other one brag about 1/2 thicker.... while the master race (pc) laughing as he taunt a 9 incher in front of their face...

im saying this with a lot of respect in mind but everytime i get in to SW thread i always got the feeling like two "average" guy babling about how one of them got 1/2 inch longer while the other one brag about 1/2 thicker.... while the master race (pc) laughing as he taunt a 9 incher in front of their face...

Eyii1989

But the 9incher has a virus :P

Saw this on gaf, didn't see it posted. Lock if old.

"You know, so far (amazing how many people overlook the 2 words SO FAR). Also:

Based on what I understand, the, you know, the resolution and textures and polycounts and all that stuff, ***WE'RE*** (KEYWORD) not going to *being* (correct english?) doing anything to uprez the game."

shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="Eyii1989"]

im saying this with a lot of respect in mind but everytime i get in to SW thread i always got the feeling like two "average" guy babling about how one of them got 1/2 inch longer while the other one brag about 1/2 thicker.... while the master race (pc) laughing as he taunt a 9 incher in front of their face...

crimsonman1245

But the 9incher has a virus :P

that's why we use KON-- im sorry norton...

^^

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Stronger in what? PowerPC > gimped Pentium 3. It also has more RAM. I'll give the Xbox better shaders but there's nothing the Xbox could do that the Wii couldn't.

Wii was weak but it innovated the way games are played. For a so underpowered console it was a pure success.

nameless12345

Super Mario Galaxy 2(6.36 million)

Wii Sports Resort(29.87 million)

Wii Fit(22.61 million)

Well yea, it was the first console to actually allow anyone to enjoy games.

You could include Mario Kart and New SMB sales.

I used those to show that the only "inovative" game the Wii has compared to other "games".

The biggest denial a Nintendo fanboy could ever have is the idea that Nintendo care about "hardcore" gamers... I'm looking forward to the Wii U and have played every Mario game and Zelda title excluding handhelds but I'm not for one minute going to trick myself in believing that...

1. Nintendo are going to get third party exclusives worth talking about
2. Nintendo will release more than 1-2 Nintendo franchises a year
3. Nintendo to unveil a new IP
4. Nintendo to have a online worth mentioning

What a rational person should expect...

1. 1 Zelda for the whole generation... 2 if your lucky
2. Mario Party Wii U
3. Wii U Sports
4. Third party support only when it comes to PORTS
5. No exlcusives other than controller gimmicked ones with low budget development

If your getting the Wii U for anything more than HD mario and Zelda then you will be dissapointed.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"] Their success has nothing to do with "innovation"... MARKETING and price is what gave the Wii its sales.

Super Mario Galaxy 2(6.36 million)

Wii Sports Resort(29.87 million)

Wii Fit(22.61 million)

Grey_Eyed_Elf

Well yea, it was the first console to actually allow anyone to enjoy games.

You could include Mario Kart and New SMB sales.

I used those to show that the only "inovative" game the Wii has compared to other "games".

The biggest denial a Nintendo fanboy could ever have is the idea that Nintendo care about "hardcore" gamers... I'm looking forward to the Wii U and have played every Mario game and Zelda title excluding handhelds but I'm not for one minute going to trick myself in believing that...

1. Nintendo are going to get third party exclusives worth talking about
2. Nintendo will release more than 1-2 Nintendo franchises a year
3. Nintendo to unveil a new IP
4. Nintendo to have a online worth mentioning

What a rational person should expect...

1. 1 Zelda for the whole generation... 2 if your lucky
2. Mario Party Wii U
3. Wii U Sports
4. Third party support only when it comes to PORTS
5. No exlcusives other than controller gimmicked ones with low budget development

If your getting the Wii U for anything more than HD mario and Zelda then you will be dissapointed.

Wii did get it's share of innovative games, they're just overlooked. Take a look at Mad World, Little King Story, De Blob, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Boom Blox, ect.

The Wii U might turn out weak but we don't know how 3rd parties will respond. The DS was pretty weak too but it enjoyed great 3rd party support.

As it stands now, we know very little about the console (other than how it'll look like and what it's capabilities might be; they did mention new IPs tho).

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"] Their success has nothing to do with "innovation"... MARKETING and price is what gave the Wii its sales.

Super Mario Galaxy 2(6.36 million)

Wii Sports Resort(29.87 million)

Wii Fit(22.61 million)

Grey_Eyed_Elf

Well yea, it was the first console to actually allow anyone to enjoy games.

You could include Mario Kart and New SMB sales.

I used those to show that the only "inovative" game the Wii has compared to other "games".

The biggest denial a Nintendo fanboy could ever have is the idea that Nintendo care about "hardcore" gamers... I'm looking forward to the Wii U and have played every Mario game and Zelda title excluding handhelds but I'm not for one minute going to trick myself in believing that...

1. Nintendo are going to get third party exclusives worth talking about
2. Nintendo will release more than 1-2 Nintendo franchises a year
3. Nintendo to unveil a new IP
4. Nintendo to have a online worth mentioning

What a rational person should expect...

1. 1 Zelda for the whole generation... 2 if your lucky
2. Mario Party Wii U
3. Wii U Sports
4. Third party support only when it comes to PORTS
5. No exlcusives other than controller gimmicked ones with low budget development

If your getting the Wii U for anything more than HD mario and Zelda then you will be dissapointed.

Knew you were going to make this thread so I'll just say the same thing I've been talking about in the other one. Contradicts what others have said including the technical director of Virgil games. Should make e3 interesting to watch though.ShuichiChamp24

Knew you were going to make this thread so I'll just say the same thing I've been talking about in the other one. Contradicts what others have said including the technical director of Virgil games. Should make e3 interesting to watch though.ShuichiChamp24

E3 can't come soon enough. Last year's was a pure fail so they better impress with the Wii U.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

nameless12345

Stronger in what? PowerPC > gimped Pentium 3. It also has more RAM. I'll give the Xbox better shaders but there's nothing the Xbox could do that the Wii couldn't.

Wii was weak but it innovated the way games are played. For a so underpowered console it was a pure success.

The XBOX could do 720p/1080i, the Wii is only strong enough to push pixels at lower resolutions.

As far as the shaders that's huge

There's so many bottlenecks in the Wii it's insane, it's like the opposite of what devs had to deal with at Sony. Not only did you need to design your games differently but you also had to work within very small parameters. It's not the Cell that has all this power just waiting to be tapped, on the Wii it's the TEV system that didn't allow you to have the ability from last gen.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

It's a weak console just like the Wii was a weak console, it's a gimmick device that has very little traction with the demographic that buys the newest versions of consoles on a regular basis.

Nintendo has been losing money since 2008 and the way the 3DS failed it's looking like soon they will be just making software for other companies

CDUB316

riiiiiiight....so the number 1 seller this generation in both console and handheld is just gonna magically give up making hardware because of a few fincancial hits???

well if that's the case sony would've dropped out of the hardware race when the PS2 launched....and the PSP.......and the PS3....oh and let's not forget the Vita

Knew you were going to make this thread so I'll just say the same thing I've been talking about in the other one. Contradicts what others have said including the technical director of Virgil games. Should make e3 interesting to watch though.ShuichiChamp24

OP's agenda is really convoluted.

He think's that a) Wii U's controller doesn't have mass market appeal b) Wii U will be severely underpowered relative to expectations of an 8th gen console c) MS and Sony will use the same loss lead strategy as in the 7th gen in order to render Wii U incapable of receiving next gen multiplats.

This view is the most unlikely here because it requires 3 unrelated factors to align perfectly and it conflicts with what we know of the 8th gen: Nintendo's strategy is to recapture hardcore gamers, they openly say this but formulated differently.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

It's a weak console just like the Wii was a weak console, it's a gimmick device that has very little traction with the demographic that buys the newest versions of consoles on a regular basis.

Nintendo has been losing money since 2008 and the way the 3DS failed it's looking like soon they will be just making software for other companies

CDUB316

riiiiiiight....so the number 1 seller this generation in both console and handheld is just gonna magically give up making hardware because of a few fincancial hits???

well if that's the case sony would've dropped out of the hardware race when the PS2 launched....and the PSP.......and the PS3....oh and let's not forget the Vita

I don't think you understand

For some reason you bring up Sony, do you know that Sony makes other things besides games? Sony is a large company that is heavily diversified along many different forms of business.

Nintendo makes games and that's it.

I'll make it even easier, if Sony does poorly with their game areas they have other areas to draw from to stay in business

If Nintendo does poorly in the game area they have nowhere else to turn, they just go away

In the last 4 years Nintendo has lost hundreds of millions of dollars, had to let employees go, had to downsize their R&D and overall business model, cancelled expansion of their satellite locations, downsized their employee benefits packages, and lost it's top seller rating for it's products worldwide.

Im so torn on this console.

I havent had a Nintendo console since the N64, and if i get the Wii U i will have the entire Wii and Wii U library.

But these gimmicks scare me to death, im afraid i will buy the console, play it for a couple of hours, but have the game crippled by motion and never play it again.

Dont understand why they couldnt have the option of turning off the motion controls, it cant be THAT hard.

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

It's a weak console just like the Wii was a weak console, it's a gimmick device that has very little traction with the demographic that buys the newest versions of consoles on a regular basis.

Nintendo has been losing money since 2008 and the way the 3DS failed it's looking like soon they will be just making software for other companies

infinite884

riiiiiiight....so the number 1 seller this generation in both console and handheld is just gonna magically give up making hardware because of a few fincancial hits???

well if that's the case sony would've dropped out of the hardware race when the PS2 launched....and the PSP.......and the PS3....oh and let's not forget the Vita

i never said any of those systems were failures....

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]

im not suprised by this consoles are about a cheaper alternative to major hardware so why would they make a extremely powerful console if there previous one was the highest seller and that didn't need the highest specs. in their eyes it would be wasting money for no reason.

LastRambo341

Indeed, like in actual gamers eyes will be wasting money for a terrible hardware and zero 3rd party support a 2ond time after Wii

This view is the most unlikely here because it requires 3 unrelated factors to align perfectly and it conflicts with what we know of the 8th gen: Nintendo's strategy is to recapture hardcore gamers, they openly say this but formulated differently.

SuperFlakeman

They're gonna need something better than hardware that's simply on par with 6 year old consoles, amirite?

Im so torn on this console.

I havent had a Nintendo console since the N64, and if i get the Wii U i will have the entire Wii and Wii U library.

But these gimmicks scare me to death, im afraid i will buy the console, play it for a couple of hours, but have the game crippled by motion and never play it again.

Dont understand why they couldnt have the option of turning off the motion controls, it cant be THAT hard.

crimsonman1245

So, bland and enigmatic statments from a developer of a game hardly no one knows or cares about are the word of God now? Well at least it's fodder for the trolls on System Wars.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

Jaysonguy

Stronger in what? PowerPC > gimped Pentium 3. It also has more RAM. I'll give the Xbox better shaders but there's nothing the Xbox could do that the Wii couldn't.

Wii was weak but it innovated the way games are played. For a so underpowered console it was a pure success.

The XBOX could do 720p/1080i, the Wii is only strong enough to push pixels at lower resolutions.

As far as the shaders that's huge

There's so many bottlenecks in the Wii it's insane, it's like the opposite of what devs had to deal with at Sony. Not only did you need to design your games differently but you also had to work within very small parameters. It's not the Cell that has all this power just waiting to be tapped, on the Wii it's the TEV system that didn't allow you to have the ability from last gen.

Wii could easily do 720p if it wasn't locked to 480p. Besides, how many Xbox games actually supported 720p? Two?

Xbox's shaders' main advantage is that they're fully programmable. Otherwise the TEV pipeline in Wii/GameCube is flexible enough to produce any effect the Xbox can. Possibly even more given that the dev writes new effects from scratch.

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

This view is the most unlikely here because it requires 3 unrelated factors to align perfectly and it conflicts with what we know of the 8th gen: Nintendo's strategy is to recapture hardcore gamers, they openly say this but formulated differently.

waltefmoney

They're gonna need something better than hardware that's simply on par with 6 year old consoles, amirite?

I agree with what you mean, but that was badly worded.

It's not about having cutting edge tech, it's about finding that perfect balance of having enough power in order to run multiplatform games.

That's the key, to be able to run multiplats, and to get 3rd parties on board. It's not about the power or resolution itself, it's about how it compares to the other consoles. You don't know what Xbox 3 has in it.

I knew nintendo was doing this

like here is next gen WII U

tricked me once with WII a overclocked gamecube

your just doing whats been out 6 years running

enjoy WII U a this gen system its hardware won't match that of the real starters of next gen SONY & MS

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The original XBOX is stronger then the Wii, it's no surprise that the WiiU wont have a lot of power

It's a weak console just like the Wii was a weak console, it's a gimmick device that has very little traction with the demographic that buys the newest versions of consoles on a regular basis.

Nintendo has been losing money since 2008 and the way the 3DS failed it's looking like soon they will be just making software for other companies

Jaysonguy

riiiiiiight....so the number 1 seller this generation in both console and handheld is just gonna magically give up making hardware because of a few fincancial hits???

well if that's the case sony would've dropped out of the hardware race when the PS2 launched....and the PSP.......and the PS3....oh and let's not forget the Vita

I don't think you understand

For some reason you bring up Sony, do you know that Sony makes other things besides games? Sony is a large company that is heavily diversified along many different forms of business.

Nintendo makes games and that's it.

I'll make it even easier, if Sony does poorly with their game areas they have other areas to draw from to stay in business

If Nintendo does poorly in the game area they have nowhere else to turn, they just go away

In the last 4 years Nintendo has lost hundreds of millions of dollars, had to let employees go, had to downsize their R&D and overall business model, cancelled expansion of their satellite locations, downsized their employee benefits packages, and lost it's top seller rating for it's products worldwide.

I agree with what you mean, but that was badly worded.

It's not about having cutting edge tech, it's about finding that perfect balance of having enough power in order to run multiplatform games.

That's the key, to be able to run multiplats, and to get 3rd parties on board. It's not about the power or resolution itself, it's about how it compares to the other consoles. You don't know what Xbox 3 has in it.

SuperFlakeman

You're right, I don't. What I do know is that if this turns out to be true, Nintendo's gonna have a very hard time accomplishing that goal.

I knew nintndo was doing this

like here is next gen WII U

tricked me once with WII a overclocked gamecube

your just doing whats been out 6 years running

enjoy WII U a this gen systemits hardware won't match that of the real starters of next gen SONY & MS

ebrezzy1

These news are a few months old. Let's wait for E3 instead of believing old rumours, eh?

If PS4 and Xbox 3 are powerhouses that can output 1080p native, what stops devs from putting downscaled next gen engines, running at 720p on Wii U ??

so if this is on par with my ps3 and 360, what would be my reasoning to go out and buy a wii u?

so if this is on par with my ps3 and 360, what would be my reasoning to go out and buy a wii u?

infinite884

Same as the Wii - Nintendo's first party. Jesus christ their platforms really went to sh!t.

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

I agree with what you mean, but that was badly worded.

It's not about having cutting edge tech, it's about finding that perfect balance of having enough power in order to run multiplatform games.

That's the key, to be able to run multiplats, and to get 3rd parties on board. It's not about the power or resolution itself, it's about how it compares to the other consoles. You don't know what Xbox 3 has in it.

waltefmoney

You're right, I don't. What I do know is that if this turns out to be true, Nintendo's gonna have a very hard time accomplishing that goal.

Obviously yes.

so if this is on par with my ps3 and 360, what would be my reasoning to go out and buy a wii u?

infinite884

fanboys will remain in denial until launch, not even E3 will convince them that the tech is current level, they will deny it even then and say that its still early.

the WiiU will be a 360 that plays Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby and Donkey Kong in HD.... nothing more and nothing less.

sheep should be greatful for that at least.

so if this is on par with my ps3 and 360, what would be my reasoning to go out and buy a wii u?

infinite884

It's not made for you maybe?

fanboys will remain in denial until launch, not even E3 will convince them that the tech is current level, they will deny it even then and say that its still early.

the WiiU will be a 360 that plays Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby and Donkey Kong in HD.... nothing more and nothing less.

sheep should be greatful for that at least.

rasengan2552

And haters are gonna hate, probably even after E3 :P

[QUOTE="infinite884"]

so if this is on par with my ps3 and 360, what would be my reasoning to go out and buy a wii u?

waltefmoney

Same as the Wii - Nintendo's first party. Jesus christ their platforms really went to sh!t.

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

I knew nintndo was doing this

like here is next gen WII U

tricked me once with WII a overclocked gamecube

your just doing whats been out 6 years running

enjoy WII U a this gen systemits hardware won't match that of the real starters of next gen SONY & MS

nameless12345

These news are a few months old. Let's wait for E3 instead of believing old rumours, eh?

fanboys will remain in denial until launch, not even E3 will convince them that the tech is current level, they will deny it even then and say that its still early.

the WiiU will be a 360 that plays Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby and Donkey Kong in HD.... nothing more and nothing less.

sheep should be greatful for that at least.

rasengan2552

If you want fanboys in denial, look no further than sales related PSV threads.

No! Because these old rumours align perfectly with his myopic fanboyism and half-baked trolling strategies!

Bigboi500

I agree, your trolling is pretty average.

[QUOTE="infinite884"]

so if this is on par with my ps3 and 360, what would be my reasoning to go out and buy a wii u?

campzor

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

No! Because these old rumours align perfectly with his myopic fanboyism and half-baked trolling strategies!

waltefmoney

I agree, your trolling is pretty average.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

No! Because these old rumours align perfectly with his myopic fanboyism and half-baked trolling strategies!

Bigboi500

I agree, your trolling is pretty average.

Prick :(