Ahahaha OUCH!!! Damn that flopped fast lol. No one wanted that ugly piece of shit TLG with those shitty graphics & gameplay from 2003 lol. PS4 has NO games all summer & winter long besides No mans sky LOL. Not surprised since the game looked like trash & i knew no one will buy it because of the release date & how OLD it looked
Cows here full of the same BS excuses they always are.
Like I said in the other thread, cows always brag up exclusives as some huge factor, but the reality is the 50 million cow herd DOESN'T BUY THEM. Even a niche game should easily sell 1 million units with a 50+ million install base thats only 2-percent.
LOL at the 'high brow artsy game' vs 'low brow' argument. The majority of the PS4 base arent like the cows here living in a bubble thinking Japanese games move consoles. The truth is the the bulk of the herd are Bro gamers that mostly play CoD, BF, Madden, NBA2K and FIFA.
Sony couldnt even sell SFV to the PS base when it was huge on Xbox. Serves Capcom right for selling their soul for a jelly roll.
TLHBO SALTY TEARS BUTTHURT. blah blah Standard cow rebuttal.
Since when did the PS4 sell 50 million in the UK? People on here still can't read.
Isn't there more PS4s, but when it comes to games it looks like the owners are buying less games than the competition. And what's the point of exclusives when they don't buy them. PS4 is reminding me of the Wii where it was in the lead but the games especially the exclusives aren't selling as good as the competition. I guess potential buyers were turned off by the countless flop reviews of this flop game. It just isn't as good as the previous Team Eeeko games.
Yeah this thread comes out a bit desperate, but hey this is a known niche game with trouble development history so it is news on how it does. Plus it stuck its neck out there I guess especially on the epic renewed sales fight with lems and cows. Realistically is an Ueda game that performing better actually.
Why did Sony care to keep this alive for its core small but vocal fans. I think they have always approach that mentality even a barbie game mattered to integrate potential customers. This is even if it only translate to a small benefit to core games. As a fan of Ueda I can appreciate the mentality there and hope Ueda continue to make games.
Blame Eurogamer, they made the article. They should have focused on the more important aspect of the game sales. Sure it lost to DR4, but it placed 7th, which is great for a niche title. As a manitcore, I want to see all titles succeed.
Cows here full of the same BS excuses they always are.
Like I said in the other thread, cows always brag up exclusives as some huge factor, but the reality is the 50 million cow herd DOESN'T BUY THEM. Even a niche game should easily sell 1 million units with a 50+ million install base thats only 2-percent.
LOL at the 'high brow artsy game' vs 'low brow' argument. The majority of the PS4 base arent like the cows here living in a bubble thinking Japanese games move consoles. The truth is the the bulk of the herd are Bro gamers that mostly play CoD, BF, Madden, NBA2K and FIFA.
Sony couldnt even sell SFV to the PS base when it was huge on Xbox. Serves Capcom right for selling their soul for a jelly roll.
TLHBO SALTY TEARS BUTTHURT. blah blah Standard cow rebuttal.
OH STFU That is UK were the xbox one and PS4 are not on a 20 million gap,the PS4 and xbox one in UK are very close probably a million or 2 units apparts which is not enough to cause a big gap in sales,second TLG came on the weekend while DR4 had basically the full week,so 3 days vs a full week of sales maybe if you used your brain just a little you would understand why.
Yeah how did Tomb Raider sold on xbox.? How about Quantum Flop even Gears wasn't a huge seller,stop dude and look first and how bad xbox games sell why do you think all xbox one exclusive also land on PC now.? After MS spent 2 generation building a library of games for their console and image about how the xbox brand wasn't just a MS cheap PC.
Blame Eurogamer, they made the article. They should have focused on the more important aspect of the game sales. Sure it lost to DR4, but it placed 7th, which is great for a niche title. As a manitcore, I want to see all titles succeed.
Blame Eurogamer, they made the article. They should have focused on the more important aspect of the game sales. Sure it lost to DR4, but it placed 7th, which is great for a niche title. As a manitcore, I want to see all titles succeed.
They know their audience.
Indeed. It's for clicks...the all mighty ad revenue.
Honestly, I was expecting it to be a commercial dud... like ICO and SotC before it
Sure these types of games gather some attention on forums and the dedicated media but to the outside world, shallow experiences like shooters or sports games will always have more attention... I guess this is officially the last Team ICO game ever made... *sigh. I just dont know if I should be happy or sad about this. On one side I love Team ICOs vision and indeniable touch in gaming, on the other I wont get excited for fuckin 7 years! for their next game
It was a good run Team ICO, but when you have three comercial failures on your repertoire its obvious the big market just doesnt care about your vision. I do, that much I know
Cows here full of the same BS excuses they always are.
Like I said in the other thread, cows always brag up exclusives as some huge factor, but the reality is the 50 million cow herd DOESN'T BUY THEM. Even a niche game should easily sell 1 million units with a 50+ million install base thats only 2-percent.
LOL at the 'high brow artsy game' vs 'low brow' argument. The majority of the PS4 base arent like the cows here living in a bubble thinking Japanese games move consoles. The truth is the the bulk of the herd are Bro gamers that mostly play CoD, BF, Madden, NBA2K and FIFA.
Sony couldnt even sell SFV to the PS base when it was huge on Xbox. Serves Capcom right for selling their soul for a jelly roll.
TLHBO SALTY TEARS BUTTHURT. blah blah Standard cow rebuttal.
Since when did the PS4 sell 50 million in the UK? People on here still can't read.
Despite that, the PS4 still has a bigger install base in the UK than the Xbox one.
I don't know why this would surprise anybody. Team Ico is not known for sales, you know. They're known for making games that people look back on and call classic. TLG will be no different in that sense.
LOL upset already. Relax homeboy I was just messing with you and the only one sounding stupid in here is you. I don't disagree with what you say but we all know if it was TLG selling more than DR then your tone would be completely different, we seen your track record in here to know better than that.
Track record smak records lol you just believe what you want as someone who only thinks in fanboy.
There is no reason for me to bash DR4 as It's not a game I'm interested in nor a game I particularly feel any hate toward. DR is not a top tier franchise and was never treated as an AAA blockbuster by MS so there would no reason for me to bust it's chops if TLG outsold it, maybe others would but not me.
The problem with you is you don't know how I think, you only think how you or other fanboys think thus you project your preconceived fanboyism onto me, that's not my problem it's yours. If DR was a high profile title and niche TLG out sold it then hell yea I'd xbox fans chops but it's not so I wouldn't. It's not as cut and dry as that with me as it might be with you.
Sry you don't like my response and feel you know how I think and will post in any situation but the thought process you have is not sufficient to predict what what I might think or post in any given situation. You won't know what I will post on any given thread until I post it but fanboys say amazing things and apparently have amazing Ms Cleo powers at their disposal as well. :P
LOL me liking or not liking your response is irrelevant cause I have no feelings for your response, like I said I was just messing with you so it doesn't bother me in the slightest. But tell the true, if TLG sold more, you would put up some here's another "flop" message?????????
Tell the truth!!
You know you can, come on now, let's be real
LOL.
Here is my first post in the Dead Risisng 4 REVIEW thread..
@casharmy said:
The game kinda just released didn't it?
I know lems were hyping this before but they've been to busy worrying about and damage controlling all PS4 games that they don't even talk about the few they have anymore, so whats the verdict on this one?
Yeah, I saw the 7.0...but I asked users what their verdict was.
So, sorry you're wrong. I didn't bash the game at all nor call it some disgusting flop like you might imagine in your head so your theory fails because I already had a chance to scream flop and I didn't.
I mostly point mostly pick on lemmings because they are the most hypocritical I've found and flip flop on their arguments constantly to fit their agenda and are notorious for lying on things which I bust them on which is why I am so hated by lems here...lol,
Games however?
I don't bash games based off some idiotic fanboyism that some of you people live by. I only hyped games that seem good to me and I only dis games that that I've played or express disinterest in ones that don't look fun to play. The platform a game is on really doesn't play any part in *my* evaluation of what a game is to me nor how I voice my opinion on it.
I have played older DR games and they weren't fun to me, but I didn't even submit an opinion on DR4 1. because it didn't have an official hype thread and 2. Because I didn't actually play the latest version. A game can't be a flop without hype but yeah a fanboy like you describe would find a reason to scream flop just because it's not AAA on their preferred platform.
A 7.0 could be a good game (there are many that are) so if there's no official hype I don't know if the expectation was higher or if the users (not fanboys) actually agree with the rating.
Honestly, I was expecting it to be a commercial dud... like ICO and SotC before it
Sure these types of games gather some attention on forums and the dedicated media but to the outside world, shallow experiences like shooters or sports games will always have more attention... I guess this is officially the last Team ICO game ever made... *sigh. I just dont know if I should be happy or sad about this. On one side I love Team ICOs vision and indeniable touch in gaming, on the other I wont get excited for fuckin 7 years! for their next game
It was a good run Team ICO, but when you have three comercial failures on your repertoire its obvious the big market just doesnt care about your vision. I do, that much I know
*sigh
Commercial duds might be a bit much, they weren't break out successes, but I also don't think they necessarily bled Sony money either. In the case of Ico and SoTC, they were developed when Playstation was rolling in money, and middle market games had a proper market. The 60 dollar (50 dollar at the time I guess) could be something other than the super duper technical showpiece, and in the case of Ico that project was pretty modest. And for all intents and purposes Shadow of the Colossus was successful with the bigger marketing campaign (and naturally more attention grabbing premise/set up).
The Last Guardian was a technical struggle for them to get done, especially with Ueda and crew being stubborn and sticking with it, and not just dumbing the vision down just to get a product out. Which given that it was their third game, wasn't surprising, especially given how Trico works. It's not consistent, but as far as companion AIs are concerned, and certainly one that big, with that detail on his fur, it kind of makes sense why they struggled so much.
Personally I'd stick with it's a shame that Ueda can't continue to do Ueda things. Because as much as I don't care for first party sony stuff beyond a few exceptions, Sony's a cool publisher in the sense that they are far more willing to bet on risks. With more projects that are prestige/patron to the arts type projects. Not many studios would have funded a game like Ico in the first place, much less had the eye to go for stuff like Flow and Journey, and as much as he sucks, they do bet on David Cage who is anything but vanilla ice cream as far as video game devs are concerned.
last guardian should have been 15$ indie game. and should not be full priced game as it looks and run like PS2 game.
No doubt. I watched a few hours of guy playing on Twitch and happened I got to see the ending as well. My goodness all he did was bitch about the crap control and camera. Made me super frustrated just watching this crap. lol
I'm not even kidding, this game wouldn't score above a 5 on GS if it were an X1 game and sold for the price of Recore, $39.99 but TLG full price and a 9.0. GS = lol. :P
is that what you do, watch walkthrough's of Playstation exclusives on twitch because youre to poor to afford your own? LOL
Sony really need to start listening to their consumers. Their consumers aren't buying these types of games. They wasted like 10 years in hyping this and it's a dud. No wonder they try to come out with a diverse library, not because they want to be diverse but they are desperately trying to find the right audience. No wonder there aren't really any PlayStation mascots like a Mario or a MasterChief because Sony just can't seem to make games with compelling characters that could reach a larger audience. On a positive note at least the first two Team Ico games were critically acclaimed. They should've remastered that first instead to generate interest for this flop TLG.
No wonder they try to come out with a diverse library.
You say that like its a bad thing. You mention Master Chief. So yay, MS has a known mascot, great. But outside of that, their 1st party development is embarassingly terrible. I prefer Sony to not have a mascot but keep delievering different experiences each gen than to stick with one freakin mascot for its entire life
@tormentos: doesnt change my point baby hands. Talking about PS4 exclusives here.
I bet you any of the games you named still have a higher attach rate for Xbox than most PS4 exclusives.
If they are flops, but selling more with half the install base, that must mean most PS4 exclusives are really flops.
See ^ this @BigShotSmoov007?
This is the type of idiot you were speaking of. I can't wrap my head around nor fathom the stupidity and desperation needed to make a post not only cringe worthy but out right false as this.
Didn't UC4, Ratchet n Clank and MLB 16; The Show all come out this year along with his Quantum Break a game he's using to support his PS4 games don't sell theory?
For comparison sake here is Quantum Break debut month NDP...
Software
Dark Souls III (PS4, Xbox One)
Ratchet & Clank (PS4)***
MLB 16: The Show (PS4, PS3)***
Tom Clancy’s The Division (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
Minecraft (Xbox One, 360, PS4, PS3)
Quantum Break (Xbox One)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Not only is RnC ranked near the top of the charts at no2 but is also followed up directly by another playstation exclusive in MLB 16: The Show.....which both are ironically ranked several levels above multiplat Quantum Break which also released the same month
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand another argument/lie destroyed curiosity of Casharmy. This is why I pick on lemmngs..........I don't hate games just the hypocritical morons and liars that post BS here.
LOL upset already. Relax homeboy I was just messing with you and the only one sounding stupid in here is you. I don't disagree with what you say but we all know if it was TLG selling more than DR then your tone would be completely different, we seen your track record in here to know better than that.
Track record smak records lol you just believe what you want as someone who only thinks in fanboy.
There is no reason for me to bash DR4 as It's not a game I'm interested in nor a game I particularly feel any hate toward. DR is not a top tier franchise and was never treated as an AAA blockbuster by MS so there would no reason for me to bust it's chops if TLG outsold it, maybe others would but not me.
The problem with you is you don't know how I think, you only think how you or other fanboys think thus you project your preconceived fanboyism onto me, that's not my problem it's yours. If DR was a high profile title and niche TLG out sold it then hell yea I'd xbox fans chops but it's not so I wouldn't. It's not as cut and dry as that with me as it might be with you.
Sry you don't like my response and feel you know how I think and will post in any situation but the thought process you have is not sufficient to predict what what I might think or post in any given situation. You won't know what I will post on any given thread until I post it but fanboys say amazing things and apparently have amazing Ms Cleo powers at their disposal as well. :P
LOL me liking or not liking your response is irrelevant cause I have no feelings for your response, like I said I was just messing with you so it doesn't bother me in the slightest. But tell the true, if TLG sold more, you would put up some here's another "flop" message?????????
Tell the truth!!
You know you can, come on now, let's be real
LOL.
Here is my first post in the Dead Risisng 4 REVIEW thread..
@casharmy said:
The game kinda just released didn't it?
I know lems were hyping this before but they've been to busy worrying about and damage controlling all PS4 games that they don't even talk about the few they have anymore, so whats the verdict on this one?
Yeah, I saw the 7.0...but I asked users what their verdict was.
So, sorry you're wrong. I didn't bash the game at all nor call it some disgusting flop like you might imagine in your head so your theory fails because I already had a chance to scream flop and I didn't.
I mostly point mostly pick on lemmings because they are the most hypocritical I've found and flip flop on their arguments constantly to fit their agenda and are notorious for lying on things which I bust them on which is why I am so hated by lems here...lol,
Games however?
I don't bash games based off some idiotic fanboyism that some of you people live by. I only hyped games that seem good to me and I only dis games that that I've played or express disinterest in ones that don't look fun to play. The platform a game is on really doesn't play any part in *my* evaluation of what a game is to me nor how I voice my opinion on it.
I have played older DR games and they weren't fun to me, but I didn't even submit an opinion on DR4 1. because it didn't have an official hype thread and 2. Because I didn't actually play the latest version. A game can't be a flop without hype but yeah a fanboy like you describe would find a reason to scream flop just because it's not AAA on their preferred platform.
A 7.0 could be a good game (there are many that are) so if there's no official hype I don't know if the expectation was higher or if the users (not fanboys) actually agree with the rating.
Fanboy like me LOL, I'm far from a fanboy and that's a nice twist you put on it, a game that has no hype can't be a flop. I've seen time and time again in here fanboy's like you and others throw the word flip around for any game that's not on your particular favorite console. I've seen fanboys in here just hope and hype up a game for being a flop when it's a long way from even being released.
Like I said homeboy, my post was a joking post, no more no less. Whether you're an enemy to "lems" as you call them means nothing to me cause I care less about what others think of you or not.
@tormentos: doesnt change my point baby hands. Talking about PS4 exclusives here.
I bet you any of the games you named still have a higher attach rate for Xbox than most PS4 exclusives.
If they are flops, but selling more with half the install base, that must mean most PS4 exclusives are really flops.
See ^ this @BigShotSmoov007?
This is the type of idiot you were speaking of. I can't wrap my head around nor fathom the stupidity and desperation needed to make a post not only cringe worthy but out right false as this.
Didn't UC4, Ratchet n Clank and MLB 16; The Show all come out this year along with his Quantum Break a game he's using to support his PS4 games don't sell theory?
For comparison sake here is Quantum Break debut month NDP...
Software
Dark Souls III (PS4, Xbox One)
Ratchet & Clank (PS4)***
MLB 16: The Show (PS4, PS3)***
Tom Clancy’s The Division (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
Minecraft (Xbox One, 360, PS4, PS3)
Quantum Break (Xbox One)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Not only is RnC ranked near the top of the charts at no2 but is also followed up directly by another playstation exclusive in MLB 16: The Show.....which both are ironically ranked several levels above multiplat Quantum Break which also released the same month
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand another argument/lie destroyed curiosity of Casharmy. This is why I pick on lemmngs..........I don't hate games just the hypocritical morons and liars that post BS here.
Anyone that generalize a whole consoles games is retarded, I agree with that. Never can be or ever will side with any fanboy which is why I game on any and every console except PC.
But the lying, idiotic ways of fanboys are prevalent on both sides of the fence, on the PlayStation and Xbox side. Hell, even on the PC and Nintendo side.
Yeah, I saw the 7.0...but I asked users what their verdict was.
So, sorry you're wrong. I didn't bash the game at all nor call it some disgusting flop like you might imagine in your head so your theory fails because I already had a chance to scream flop and I didn't.
I mostly point mostly pick on lemmings because they are the most hypocritical I've found and flip flop on their arguments constantly to fit their agenda and are notorious for lying on things which I bust them on which is why I am so hated by lems here...lol,
Games however?
I don't bash games based off some idiotic fanboyism that some of you people live by. I only hyped games that seem good to me and I only dis games that that I've played or express disinterest in ones that don't look fun to play. The platform a game is on really doesn't play any part in *my* evaluation of what a game is to me nor how I voice my opinion on it.
I have played older DR games and they weren't fun to me, but I didn't even submit an opinion on DR4 1. because it didn't have an official hype thread and 2. Because I didn't actually play the latest version. A game can't be a flop without hype but yeah a fanboy like you describe would find a reason to scream flop just because it's not AAA on their preferred platform.
A 7.0 could be a good game (there are many that are) so if there's no official hype I don't know if the expectation was higher or if the users (not fanboys) actually agree with the rating.
Fanboy like me LOL, I'm far from a fanboy and that's a nice twist you put on it, a game that has no hype can't be a flop. I've seen time and time again in here fanboy's like you ...
*stops reading*
Da fuk you mean, "like you"?
No dumb ass, you can't seem to wrap your pea brain around the concept that there is no one "like me" who you can just bring your stupid fanboy minded arguments to and pan off to make a point. Now you're just running in circles because your assumptions didn't pan out which I showed, so you resort this this petty mess? Ok
Don't tell me about what "other posters" said moron...YOU'RE TALKING TO ME NOW! I am not responsible for what any other posters say so don't bring that shit up with me. If you can't bring an example of me doing what you're claiming then STFU. It's not that damn hard but it seems impossible for some of you mental rejects around here to stick to facts. I try to be civil with you idiots some time but y'all can't seem to stick to rational argument based on facts and resort to their fanboy assumptions to try to make points. FOH.
@casharmy: now attach some actual numbers to those charts and it doesnt look as rosey as you paint, especially as I said when PS4 has twice the install base of Xbox. PS4 has 50 million consoles SOLD, but Xbox games still chart close to them and many outsell them unitwise overall.
100-percent accurate numbers are hard to get, but you can generally get a rough estimate thru the known sources (NPD, GS articles etc). Even giving them the benefit of the doubt and adding on a +10-percent for error the facts remains:
1. SFV maybe sold 1 million copies on PS4
2. Until Dawn barely sold 1.5 million
3. Bloodborne sold 2.5 million
4. UC4 sold 4.6 million
5. The Order sold 1.75 million
6. Infamous SS 1.3 million
Those are terrible sales numbers when your install base is 50 million. I'm not disputing that PS4 games sell in bigger numbers than Xbox games (most of the time). My point is that cows love to brag up exclusives like its an end all be all and the numbers actually show that the majority of PS4 owners dont buy them.
And its funny cows here are talking about making generalizations when thats pretty much what you do with *anything* regarding Xbox.
Since you like making lists, do this then:
That big list of PS4 games coming out in the first two months of 2017 that you made in the other thread, come back after they've all released and post the sales numbers for them. I bet you most of them besides Horizon and P5 dont sell 1 million copies.
I'm not sure why anyone's surprised. I have no real interest in either game, just a casual curiousity. But Team Ico... their audience have grown up on the 500 years it's taken them to make another fucking game and the way games have evolved the market for another ICO type game is pretty low. Also doesn't help that the game looks like shit and you absolutely have to look past that right from the outset to get anything out of it at all.
By stark contrast the current gaming generation still just can't get enough of mindlessly whacking zombies about the head (Dying Light, one of the most boring games I EVER played, hugely successful) so yeah no surprises here.
MS hasn't given us the sales numbers for those games.
Exactly....That horrible they did.
Tomb Raider didn't even make it on NPD and the PC version was rush to the gates because of poor xbox one sales.
Quantum Break barely charted at 7 and below Ratchet and Clank and MLB.
Sun set overdrive,Forza 6,FH2,Recore all flopped to hell didn't even chart on NPD,Halo MCC charted at 10 almost out of the chart and was out next month.
In fact the number 1 reason why xbox games are landed on PC is poor xbox sales.
@oflow said:
@tormentos: doesnt change my point baby hands. Talking about PS4 exclusives here.
I bet you any of the games you named still have a higher attach rate for Xbox than most PS4 exclusives.
If they are flops, but selling more with half the install base, that must mean most PS4 exclusives are really flops.
It doesn't change it,it completely destroys it baby brain.
Oh look now he hides on attach rates...Hahahahaa
That is funny when even Halo 5 underperformed v Halo 3 even that the xbox one had a bigger user base when it landed..
@oflow said:
@casharmy:
Those are terrible sales numbers when your install base is 50 million. I'm not disputing that PS4 games sell in bigger numbers than Xbox games (most of the time). My point is that cows love to brag up exclusives like its an end all be all and the numbers actually show that the majority of PS4 owners dont buy them.
Thanks for confirming that you are a total MORON,when Infamous came out the PS4 wasn't even 7 million,the PS4 hit 50 million just fu**ing now how the fu** games like the Order or Infamous could sell 10 million copies with their user base.?
Not only that having a bigger user base doesn't warranty that your exclusives will sell 20 millions,the PS2 fu**ing sold 157 million units on its lifetime and most exclusives did not reach 5 million copies.
The bigger your user base the more diverse it is,also the more games you have the more your exclusive break sales wise,is not the xbox alone.
Want to talk about attach rate find me a game on PS4 or xbox that beat Mario Kart 8,it sold 8 million copies on a freaking 13.3 million users base that is a 60% penetration.? Now how good is the wii u gamewise outside Nintendo's exclusives it has garbage.
You are a total fool basically you have an xbox tattoo on our ass,whats next why Killlzone didn't sold 10 million on a 50 million user base.?
Oh wait Killzone SF sold 2.1 million units on a 4.2 million user base back on launch what xbox game was even close to that 50% rate.? Oh wait you must calculate it vs 50 million..hahahah
Sony Fan: The PS4 sells more because it has a more diverse library of niche games
Just in! Sales announced for TLG were low
Sony Fan: It didn't sell well because it's a niche game
yep and then I've already noticed several posts about Quantum Break sales.. Quantum Break (a new IP) being outsold by PlayStation's premier baseball title (MLB the Show '16) and a remake to an established and well-known franchise (Ratchet & Clank) is lolz worthy according to cows but those same cows claim that it shouldn't be surprising when The Last Guardian (a new IP) is outsold by a new entry in an established franchise (Dead Rising 4)..
the hypocrisy is simply off the charts with some of these guys.. Why is it ownage when established names like Ratchet & Clank and MLB: The Show outsold Quantum Break but when an established name like Dead Rising outsells The Last Guardian, it's "b bu but teh established name value!!1!"?...
This was expected. A skilless button masher for the brainless masses outselling an game for sensible artistic senses. The same reason why 50 Cents outsells Mozart but we all know which is superior and will outlive the other.
yep and then I've already noticed several posts about Quantum Break sales.. Quantum Break (a new IP) being outsold by PlayStation's premier baseball title (MLB the Show '16) and a remake to an established and well-known franchise (Ratchet & Clank)
Hypocrite..
DR is an established franchise TLG is a new one.. lol
@Antwan3K: The big difference is that QB was expected to sell BIG, it was the Xbones attempt at an Uncharted series and it didn't sell well or even score all that well (at least not for what MS was hoping for).
TLG is a game that was never poised to sell outrageous numbers, nobody really expected it to. Neither one of the other two games made by them sold amazing so there was no reason to think this would sell like crazy.
You fanboys crack me up though, so thanks for that at least.
@tormentos: doesnt change my point baby hands. Talking about PS4 exclusives here.
I bet you any of the games you named still have a higher attach rate for Xbox than most PS4 exclusives.
If they are flops, but selling more with half the install base, that must mean most PS4 exclusives are really flops.
See ^ this @BigShotSmoov007?
This is the type of idiot you were speaking of. I can't wrap my head around nor fathom the stupidity and desperation needed to make a post not only cringe worthy but out right false as this.
Didn't UC4, Ratchet n Clank and MLB 16; The Show all come out this year along with his Quantum Break a game he's using to support his PS4 games don't sell theory?
For comparison sake here is Quantum Break debut month NDP...
Software
Dark Souls III (PS4, Xbox One)
Ratchet & Clank (PS4)***
MLB 16: The Show (PS4, PS3)***
Tom Clancy’s The Division (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
Minecraft (Xbox One, 360, PS4, PS3)
Quantum Break (Xbox One)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Not only is RnC ranked near the top of the charts at no2 but is also followed up directly by another playstation exclusive in MLB 16: The Show.....which both are ironically ranked several levels above multiplat Quantum Break which also released the same month
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand another argument/lie destroyed curiosity of Casharmy. This is why I pick on lemmngs..........I don't hate games just the hypocritical morons and liars that post BS here.
A sports game has a wide range appeal for the same people over and over again, also baseball is America's pastime and most popular sport so of course a game for it is going to sell well, that game would sell well on any platform.
You also like to leave out the fact that Ratchet & Clank was a $39.99 game.
It didn't get advertised well, but it clearly did get exposure (mostly online forums and media) due to a long development cycle...but a lot of the exposure was poor as well creating doubt and worry as the game was feared canceled for a long while as well. It had a notably troubled development cycle, with even Ueda leaving Sony at one point. The majority of the game buying masses aren't clamoring for a Team ICO game and probably never will. The most exposure people had were in internet forums, not to be confused with the masses of raw buyers that actually buy games and drive these numbers. Those two elements shouldn't be confused, although in SW logic falls by the wayside.
Again though, I referenced ICO and SOTC PS2 (number one console seller of all time) sales numbers by comparison, and in that respect TLG is doing better than the previous games. Considering there is no gun in the game, it's pretty cool whenever these games come along. This should all be taken with a grain of salt considering we are looking at a week of UK sales and those numbers are tiny in comparison to what both games and more will do over the course of their shelf life.
@mjorh said:
@cainetao11 said:
@SolidTy: Sorry bro, not buying the "newish, niche up" crap. The gaming public knows what TLG is. Cows claimed E3 victory after the crowd exploded when seeing it in 2015. The dev trouble was also enough to make the title a first page talking point a plenty. It got plenty of exposure.
The game itself, in nature, is kinda niche ...it's not a game that everyone would be inclined to play... however, as you said, it got advertised well and the exposure was there
@jg4xchamp said:
Sequel on two platforms versus a new ip.
An action game versus an artsy adventure game. Zombies versus boy with giant version of catdog. Pretty obvious what game was going to sell more. That said I'll take my chances with an Ueda game and just replay Dead Rising 1 when I'm in the mood for a Dead Rising fix. Since they took what was genuinely a great game, and then proceeded to take out everything that made it enjoyable and unique in the first place.
Yeah, it's incredibly obvious, for sure.
The TLG not lighting up the sales charts is not surprising as a longtime player of the previous two games, in fact, the polar opposite would have shocked me instead. Sony knows this, as do the people being honest with the situation. Meh.
Any success at all is good though, as I'm sure this might be Ueda's swan song (at least with Sony and Team ICO)...but I hope he finds it in him to continue.
@Vatusus said: Honestly, I was expecting it to be a commercial dud... like ICO and SotC before it
Sure these types of games gather some attention on forums and the dedicated media but to the outside world, shallow experiences like shooters or sports games will always have more attention... I guess this is officially the last Team ICO game ever made... *sigh. I just dont know if I should be happy or sad about this. On one side I love Team ICOs vision and indeniable touch in gaming, on the other I wont get excited for fuckin 7 years! for their next game
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