Death to Crysis

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

[QUOTE="dc337"]Unchartered isn't a corridor shooter, it's more of a platformer/shooter hybrid. Anyhoo the screenshot you posted is from supreme commander, a game that can make good use of quad-core cpus but doesn't take graphics to a level past crysis. It's a cpu-dependent game, so I really don't see what your point is.

Here's my overall point: The pc has plenty of good rts and mmorpgs but pc exclusives like Crysis that push graphics to the next level have become rare. That's because the market really doesn't support them anymore, as seen former pc-only companies like Crytek, iD and Epic that have switched their focus to consoles.

We are at a stage where pc hardware is outpacing the software.

I know this is hard for the pc4eva gamers on this site to deal with but money talks and the money these days is in the consoles.

dc337

Your statements are disconjointed. I'm not sure what your overall point is.

I own a gaming pc and I wasn't impressed with crysis. Sure you can turn up the res but who cares when the a.i. is goofy, especially the boat gunners:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNRvYqTKqFY

I haven't played killzone 2 but from what I have seen it looks like a better game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D11SLJwRJUU&feature=related

As for Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 people last year were saying that they would come out this year and boost pc gaming.

PC gaming will continue to grow but only thanks to games like The Sims, Popcap stuff and subscription-based games.

The next big pc exclusive shooter (project offset) is just a tech demo for Intel.

The fact that people still talk about Crysis is proof that high-end pc gaming is in decline.

[ Graphics are subjective, and I'm sick of PC gamers acting like we have to bow down to their games or something, its annoying.

-Ichigo1987-

It's a fact that Crysis and Warhead are the most graphically superior games out there right now, and that should be accepted no matter what, just like how Ocarina of Time is the highest rated game of all time and anything else like that.

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

Communistsheep

Crysis wars isn't as bad as people try and make out either, costom map are great fun and the community keeps on thrwoing up endless new things like mods, maps, even whole campaigns so i don't see how it has "Little re-playability".

The game plays through in an almost unique way every time, i recently watch a freind play some of it (who incedentally has barely played any PC games) and he swipes up a precision rife i didn't even know was there and starts head-shoting dudes. It's a great game for any shooter fan, infact just a couple of days ago I hosted a BBQ and before hand a few of the guys had a go on Crysis, the responce from a PS3/ KZ2 owner was at first "Narrr no game can look better than KZ" Which proply changed to "JESUS WEPT!!" :P

Also the game has north Koreans, Nanosuits and alines, how can you fault that?!

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

BoloTheGreat

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

Communistsheep

How is having a good campaign not a good thing? Bioshock was praised endlessly for it's cmapaign, Uncharted has about the same re-play value, same with pretty much every sngle player focused game. It's not a crime to lack decent multiplayer if the single player is top notch. Again it seems Crysis is given a hard time for something Uncharted was given a total free pass on. You can approuch the singleplayer in many ways, it has more re-play value than the two games i just mentoned in that respect. It's just odd too see people saying "Oh it ONLY has amazing visuals/ Production vaules and a great singleplayer, no biggy". Yeah really? I just think people get hung up on the wrong things.

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

BoloTheGreat

Crysis wars isn't as bad as people try and make out either, costom map are great fun and the community keeps on thrwoing up endless new things like mods, maps, even whole campaigns so i don't see how it has "Little re-playability".

The game plays through in an almost unique way every time, i recently watch a freind play some of it (who incedentally has barely played any PC games) and he swipes up a precision rife i didn't even know was there and starts head-shoting dudes. It's a great game for any shooter fan, infact just a couple of days ago I hosted a BBQ and before hand a few of the guys had a go on Crysis, the responce from a PS3/ KZ2 owner was at first "Narrr no game can look better than KZ" Which proply changed to "JESUS WEPT!!" :P

Also the game has north Koreans, Nanosuits and alines, how can you fault that?!

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

Communistsheep

Crysis wars isn't as bad as people try and make out either, costom map are great fun and the community keeps on thrwoing up endless new things like mods, maps, even whole campaigns so i don't see how it has "Little re-playability".

The game plays through in an almost unique way every time, i recently watch a freind play some of it (who incedentally has barely played any PC games) and he swipes up a precision rife i didn't even know was there and starts head-shoting dudes. It's a great game for any shooter fan, infact just a couple of days ago I hosted a BBQ and before hand a few of the guys had a go on Crysis, the responce from a PS3/ KZ2 owner was at first "Narrr no game can look better than KZ" Which proply changed to "JESUS WEPT!!" :P

Also the game has north Koreans, Nanosuits and alines, how can you fault that?!

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Well, to be fair, that isn't the best picture of Crysis. I tried to find one that were somewhat of the same view between the two

BPoole96

Wow, I didn't even realize. I typed in Crysis for google images and that came up. How embarrassing

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

Communistsheep

Crysis wars isn't as bad as people try and make out either, costom map are great fun and the community keeps on thrwoing up endless new things like mods, maps, even whole campaigns so i don't see how it has "Little re-playability".

The game plays through in an almost unique way every time, i recently watch a freind play some of it (who incedentally has barely played any PC games) and he swipes up a precision rife i didn't even know was there and starts head-shoting dudes. It's a great game for any shooter fan, infact just a couple of days ago I hosted a BBQ and before hand a few of the guys had a go on Crysis, the responce from a PS3/ KZ2 owner was at first "Narrr no game can look better than KZ" Which proply changed to "JESUS WEPT!!" :P

Also the game has north Koreans, Nanosuits and alines, how can you fault that?!

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

Communistsheep

Tired of the pics appearing in threads about Console graphics. PC isn't even a console, its a ever-changing electronic product while consoles are set. It shouldn't even be compared. Besides, graphics are subjective, so it would be appreciated if people would stop shoving this game down our throats as if its the only game that can be admired for visuals.The game is 2 years old, do people even play it. I highly doubt it. When consoles can be upgraded, compare them to PC's, until then, just stop.:roll:

-Ichigo1987-

Also, there isn't just Crysis people can use. If you killed Crysis there is still the sticky matter of these games.

Arma2

STALKER; Clear Sky.

(my own ^^)

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

BoloTheGreat

Crysis wars isn't as bad as people try and make out either, costom map are great fun and the community keeps on thrwoing up endless new things like mods, maps, even whole campaigns so i don't see how it has "Little re-playability".

The game plays through in an almost unique way every time, i recently watch a freind play some of it (who incedentally has barely played any PC games) and he swipes up a precision rife i didn't even know was there and starts head-shoting dudes. It's a great game for any shooter fan, infact just a couple of days ago I hosted a BBQ and before hand a few of the guys had a go on Crysis, the responce from a PS3/ KZ2 owner was at first "Narrr no game can look better than KZ" Which proply changed to "JESUS WEPT!!" :P

Also the game has north Koreans, Nanosuits and alines, how can you fault that?!

I know I love this ignorant argument. It's basically "she's pretty, blonde and has a big chest...she must not be very bright!"

Crysis looks so good it MUST have bad gameplay :roll:

Please link me to all of these so-called "Crysis pictures flooding console-only graphics threads". I'm going to keep asking this in every one of these threads that bring up this point - like I've been doing for about a month now. Why? Because, so far, no consolite has ever answered my request. :roll:

aliblabla2007

80 posts in, still waiting on those links, consolites. If it's as common as implied, then you people should have no trouble showing them to me. ;)

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

Please link me to all of these so-called "Crysis pictures flooding console-only graphics threads". I'm going to keep asking this in every one of these threads that bring up this point - like I've been doing for about a month now. Why? Because, so far, no consolite has ever answered my request. :roll:

aliblabla2007

80 posts in, still waiting on those links, consolites. If it's as common as implied, then you people should have no trouble showing them to me. ;)

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

DAZZER7

Crysis wars isn't as bad as people try and make out either, costom map are great fun and the community keeps on thrwoing up endless new things like mods, maps, even whole campaigns so i don't see how it has "Little re-playability".

The game plays through in an almost unique way every time, i recently watch a freind play some of it (who incedentally has barely played any PC games) and he swipes up a precision rife i didn't even know was there and starts head-shoting dudes. It's a great game for any shooter fan, infact just a couple of days ago I hosted a BBQ and before hand a few of the guys had a go on Crysis, the responce from a PS3/ KZ2 owner was at first "Narrr no game can look better than KZ" Which proply changed to "JESUS WEPT!!" :P

Also the game has north Koreans, Nanosuits and alines, how can you fault that?!

I know I love this ignorant argument. It's basically "she's pretty, blonde and has a big chest...she must not be very bright!"

Crysis looks so good it MUST have bad gameplay :roll:

That analogy is based on the assumption that the only people who didn't like Crysis are the ones who haven't played it, which is obviously false...not to mention the fact it more highlights your ignorance towards the opinions of people who did play it and didn't like it. Not that I'm defending the TCs somewhat warped opinion, but there does seem to be a general consensus amongst PC gamers on this board that if you didn't enjoy Crysis then you're obviously just a consolite who doesn't know how to play it properly. Whether that's true or not still won't change the fact that all these tiresome threads always end up with people being insulted because their opinions don't align with other peoples opinions.

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] The gameplay on the singleplayer is mindblowing though, you are not one of those blinded consoleites that goes "Waahh! Crysis was teh boring! Waaah!" Becuase it was praised accross the board for a reason, it is a freaking awesome game no matter what settings you play it on.

Crysis wars isn't as bad as people try and make out either, costom map are great fun and the community keeps on thrwoing up endless new things like mods, maps, even whole campaigns so i don't see how it has "Little re-playability".

The game plays through in an almost unique way every time, i recently watch a freind play some of it (who incedentally has barely played any PC games) and he swipes up a precision rife i didn't even know was there and starts head-shoting dudes. It's a great game for any shooter fan, infact just a couple of days ago I hosted a BBQ and before hand a few of the guys had a go on Crysis, the responce from a PS3/ KZ2 owner was at first "Narrr no game can look better than KZ" Which proply changed to "JESUS WEPT!!" :P

Also the game has north Koreans, Nanosuits and alines, how can you fault that?!

marklarmer

I know I love this ignorant argument. It's basically "she's pretty, blonde and has a big chest...she must not be very bright!"

Crysis looks so good it MUST have bad gameplay :roll:

That analogy is based on the assumption that the only people who didn't like Crysis are the ones who haven't played it, which is obviously false...not to mention the fact it more highlights your ignorance towards the opinions of people who did play it and didn't like it. Not that I'm defending the TCs somewhat warped opinion, but there does seem to be a general consensus amongst PC gamers on this board that if you didn't enjoy Crysis then you're obviously just a consolite who doesn't know how to play it properly. Whether that's true or not still won't change the fact that all these tiresome threads always end up with people being insulted because their opinions don't align with other peoples opinions.

My ignorance to other peoples opinions...eh?

I'm simply pointing out, albeit in a sarcastic way that many people (not all) assume the game has nice graphics but terrible gameplay. You see such posts all the time, you know the one-line retorts that are common in every Crysis thread lol.

Now with that said, I'm in no way dismissing those who have played the game and are critical of the gameplay, but to arbitarily declare the game has bad gameplay without any kind of objective argumentis the real ignorance here, right?

My ignorance to other peoples opinions...eh?

I'm simply pointing out, albeit in a sarcastic way that many people (not all) assume the game has nice graphics but terrible gameplay. You see such posts all the time, you know the one-line retorts that are common in every Crysis thread lol.

Now with that said, I'm in no way dismissing those who have played the game and are critical of the gameplay, but to arbitarily declare the game has bad gameplay without any kind of objective argumentis the real ignorance here, right?

DAZZER7

Tired of the pics appearing in threads about Console graphics. PC isn't even a console, its a ever-changing electronic product while consoles are set. It shouldn't even be compared. Besides, graphics are subjective, so it would be appreciated if people would stop shoving this game down our throats as if its the only game that can be admired for visuals.The game is 2 years old, do people even play it. I highly doubt it. When consoles can be upgraded, compare them to PC's, until then, just stop.:roll:

-Ichigo1987-

The alternative; that we pretend the world's most popular gaming medium doesn't exist on a forum specifically designed for debate over the best system (note; SYSTEM), on a site that originally started as a PC gaming site, seems too stupid to even consider.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

Thats ur opinion,regardless, the threads is about consoles, meaning no PC. Crysis fans are either bored, or can't read, cause they keep posting in threads about CONSOLES.

-Ichigo1987-

compare microwaves to stoves why don't we:roll:

Even KZ2 threads don't even get flooded with Crysis pics unless someone asks for a comparison, i tend to flood them with STALKER pics if superiourity is implied just to screw with the cows minds :PBoloTheGreat

Meh, that's System Wars. We're the so-called "elitists" here, but let's face it.... that's a half-assed insult made because generally speaking, said bashers don't really have proper, relevant point to make, and so they resort to bitter name-calling. I've been on here for two years, and never in my experience has a hermit ever told a consolite to "get off System Wars", but I distinctly recall an entire thread telling us PC gamer that we don't belong here.

Only Lemmings and Cows have repeatedly stated that the PC isn't a system, despite a goddamn freaking sticky telling them "no, you're bloody wrong, it does count, so shut the hell up and post something actually constructive". That's not to say they ALL do it, but it's rather irritating, yet pretty damn hilarious to be called a "snob" by some nutcase who thinks he owns the damn board.

Then, there's the whole problem that some of the consolites here (there's one very famous one in this thread right now, his username starts with the first letter of the thread title and ends with something that rhymes with "eleven") seem to be very good at posting the same disproven crap for months on end, and their responses, if they even bother to make any, to anything that shows how incorrect they are tends to go towards stuff like "doesn't count", "it's biased", "I think they got paid so it doesn't count", and, of course, the infamous one I've just been talking about, "you're an elitist for posting links, I win".

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]Even KZ2 threads don't even get flooded with Crysis pics unless someone asks for a comparison, i tend to flood them with STALKER pics if superiourity is implied just to screw with the cows minds :Paliblabla2007

Meh, that's System Wars. We're the so-called "elitists" here, but let's face it.... that's a half-assed insult made because generally speaking, said bashers don't really have proper, relevant point to make, and so they resort to bitter name-calling. I've been on here for two years, and never in my experience has a hermit ever told a consolite to "get off System Wars", but I distinctly recall an entire thread telling us PC gamer that we don't belong here.

Only Lemmings and Cows have repeatedly stated that the PC isn't a system, despite a goddamn freaking sticky telling them "no, you're bloody wrong, it does count, so shut the hell up and post something actually constructive". That's not to say they ALL do it, but it's rather irritating, yet pretty damn hilarious to be called a "snob" by some nutcase who thinks he owns the damn board.

Then, there's the whole problem that some of the consolites here (there's one very famous one in this thread right now, his username starts with the first letter of the thread title and ends with something that rhymes with "eleven") seem to be very good at posting the same disproven crap for months on end, and their responses, if they even bother to make any, to anything that shows how incorrect they are tends to go towards stuff like "doesn't count", "it's biased", "I think they got paid so it doesn't count", and, of course, the infamous one I've just been talking about, "you're an elitist for posting links, I win".

Well im not really a "Hermit" (Up until pretty recently i was mainly a console gamer) but i have always had a PC at hand and always enjoyed it, i was a mid-range kind of guy (8600GTS was my previous card) and i played my 360 proabaly a little more than my PC erlier on this gen, i also loved my PS2 more than any other system for most of last gen, in short i am a console gamer through and through but also just as much a PC gamer (I've been gaming on them since the amigia days) and having such a balamced heratige I hope to try and see things clearly.

It's not just those dedicated to just PC gaming who find these types of comments down right stupid, there is much in the way or ignorance towards the PC and PC gmaing that is obviously caused by those who have not so much as smelt it. The Crysis issue is the most obvious and relevant in a long line of dismissiveness towards PC gamers and PC games in general. There is a mindset that almost blinkers people into spitting blind hate and igronace at a system they know litte about and don't care about knwoing.

This is why i tend to end up posting so much about the PC here, i love my consoles and i whish to give those console gamers who don't really know about PC gaming the chance to experience it without just going "Pffft Console gaming is soooo much better" having never tried anything else.

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

skrat_01

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Crysis looks better than all console games.

-Ichigo1987-

Thats subjective, not the rule like people seem to think in these threads. People feel the need to post a Crysis pic in any thread about Graphics. Its really annoying

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] The gameplay on the singleplayer is mindblowing though, you are not one of those blinded consoleites that goes "Waahh! Crysis was teh boring! Waaah!" Becuase it was praised accross the board for a reason, it is a freaking awesome game no matter what settings you play it on.

Crysis wars isn't as bad as people try and make out either, costom map are great fun and the community keeps on thrwoing up endless new things like mods, maps, even whole campaigns so i don't see how it has "Little re-playability".

The game plays through in an almost unique way every time, i recently watch a freind play some of it (who incedentally has barely played any PC games) and he swipes up a precision rife i didn't even know was there and starts head-shoting dudes. It's a great game for any shooter fan, infact just a couple of days ago I hosted a BBQ and before hand a few of the guys had a go on Crysis, the responce from a PS3/ KZ2 owner was at first "Narrr no game can look better than KZ" Which proply changed to "JESUS WEPT!!" :P

Also the game has north Koreans, Nanosuits and alines, how can you fault that?!

BoloTheGreat

One thing which i am certainly annoyed is how hermits go around acting how crysis is the second coming of jebus.

With their terrible arrogance to judge anyone who didn't like the game.

Communistsheep

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

Communistsheep

All 'in your opinion' right??

I mean, the game when reviewed was praised for its 'gameplay'. It received AAA scores across the boards. So based on that, obviously your just stating your own opinion right and not simply trying to state as fact that crysis has bad gameplay, right?

Oh I also liked your remark about mods "I dont like relying on other people to make the game better". I just found that so insightful on what mods really bring to a game. I mean ignore that they are essentially free content, offer tons of replayability to the original game etc.

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="skrat_01"] No. Crysis is one of the most replayable shooters this generation. Its singleplayer campaign for most of the part is highly replayable, and is designed to reward the player for experimenting, and trying different approaches through single scenarios. The Sandbox editor is extremely easy to use and results in limitless possibilities in crafting your own singleplayer scenarios, modifying campaign levels completely or just mucking about. Of course the mod community is an extension of this. And of course ontop of this is the online. While its not as good as Crysis Wars, it still offers a degree of replayability. Crysis goes well beyond titles such as COD4 and Killzone 2 in terms of design this generation, fantastic visuals simply enhance its strengths.DAZZER7

All 'in your opinion' right??

I mean, the game when reviewed was praised for its 'gameplay'. It received AAA scores across the boards. So based on that, obviously your just stating your own opinion right and not simply trying to state as fact that crysis has bad gameplay, right?

Oh I also liked your remark about mods "I dont like relying on other people to make the game better". I just found that so insightful on what mods really bring to a game. I mean ignore that they are essentially free content, offer tons of replayability to the original game etc.

Tired of the pics appearing in threads about Console graphics. PC isn't even a console, its a ever-changing electronic product while consoles are set. It shouldn't even be compared. Besides, graphics are subjective, so it would be appreciated if people would stop shoving this game down our throats as if its the only game that can be admired for visuals.The game is 2 years old, do people even play it. I highly doubt it. When consoles can be upgraded, compare them to PC's, until then, just stop.:roll:

-Ichigo1987-

[QUOTE="CoralMark"][QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]Did I say that slowly enough for you? Do you understand? Huuh? do ya?Hexagon_777

You know, this is adiscussionboard. If you don't want to discuss [and prefer to harass people], perhaps you would be better off blogging about it.

That's the best way to hear only your opinion.

Quite ironic if you look at the following post:

Deal with it:| Don't know who you think you are bud. Where do you get off talking to posters like that? Are you supposed to be a e-thug or something. Can it Fanboy.-Ichigo1987-

It is astonishing how quick he became a hypocrite. :lol:

This is from another thread. Rather amusing, isn't it? :D

A guy today told me that he has a dual-core GTX 295 with nearly 2 gigs of video RAM, 3 gigs of system RAM, and an Intel i7 clocked at 2.66 Ghz. He also told me that at 1920x1080 he manages 40 frames per second with Crysis. So no, I refuse to stop. Your consoles aren't even remotely close to that rig and yet it still isn't capable of gobbling up Crysis. That game destroys the best PC's money can buy. It refuses to go away because it is the best looking and the most demanding game on the planet, period.Brownesque

You need to look up on the numbers, There are ALOT of games out there that are much more demanding than crysis (im looking at you Niko Bellic)

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Communistsheep"]

I don't care how much eye candy crysis is, it's still has a terrible online and little replayabillity. purdy graphics don't make a game good.

Communistsheep

Its a game that hangs on its own sandbox design, which is some of the best execution in the shooter genre, resulting in a highly replayable game - until the alien and snow levels, which rely primarily on set pieces to drive the gameplay. You're argument is hardly a counterpoint.

So because you became bored of it 'after awhile' it was not replayable? Right.

So essentially you are saying your own attention span is the reason here? Well makes perfect sense, as the Sandbox Editor adds a huge amount of replayability, however its due to your own subjectivity that you have grown bored of something that offers much to the player.

Your subjective loss, not the games problem.

The online is more lack luster than it should have been - admittedly, which is why Crysis Wars has essentially evolved the formula. However Warfare mode is well designed, its just the combat quirks and glitches that are the bane of the game in this department. Without a doubt its online is not as strong as COD4s and Killzone's. However ultimately its not Crysis's multiplayer that makes the game so highly re playable.

Mods? Again its your own problem. Mods dont 'make the game better' they add too it, those being there extend the longevity of the game, upcoming release like MechWarrior Living Legends seem to do so tenfold.

What makes an already highly re playable game, even more re playable is an added bonus, your own inability to appreciate it does not stop it from existing or validating my argument further.

This is system wars. Not console wars. By creating this thread, you are basically admitting that the PC is better than the other systems and are trying to play it down.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Crysis looks better than all console games.

-Ichigo1987-

Thats subjective, not the rule like people seem to think in these threads. People feel the need to post a Crysis pic in any thread about Graphics. Its really annoying

^ This. I think Crysis is an ugly game and I've seen it played on High all maxed out. The best looking game I've ever played is Eternal Sonata. Now that game is breath taking...

Artsytle makes a game, not the number of polys one game can push.

[QUOTE="-Ichigo1987-"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Crysis looks better than all console games.

SexySasquatch11

Thats subjective, not the rule like people seem to think in these threads. People feel the need to post a Crysis pic in any thread about Graphics. Its really annoying

^ This. I think Crysis is an ugly game and I've seen it played on High all maxed out. The best looking game I've ever played is Eternal Sonata. Now that game is breath taking...

Artsytle makes a game, not the number of polys one game can push.

Thats literally like saying cartoons are better than movies. Maybe so for you but not everyone. By the way, pushing more polys, generally speaking means much more detailed graphics, along with lighting, textures, normal mapping etc.

Art = subjective

Polys = objective

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="skrat_01"] No. Crysis is one of the most replayable shooters this generation. Its singleplayer campaign for most of the part is highly replayable, and is designed to reward the player for experimenting, and trying different approaches through single scenarios. The Sandbox editor is extremely easy to use and results in limitless possibilities in crafting your own singleplayer scenarios, modifying campaign levels completely or just mucking about. Of course the mod community is an extension of this. And of course ontop of this is the online. While its not as good as Crysis Wars, it still offers a degree of replayability. Crysis goes well beyond titles such as COD4 and Killzone 2 in terms of design this generation, fantastic visuals simply enhance its strengths.skrat_01

Its a game that hangs on its own sandbox design, which is some of the best execution in the shooter genre, resulting in a highly replayable game - until the alien and snow levels, which rely primarily on set pieces to drive the gameplay. You're argument is hardly a counterpoint.

So because you became bored of it 'after awhile' it was not replayable? Right.

So essentially you are saying your own attention span is the reason here? Well makes perfect sense, as the Sandbox Editor adds a huge amount of replayability, however its due to your own subjectivity that you have grown bored of something that offers much to the player.

Your subjective loss, not the games problem.

The online is more lack luster than it should have been - admittedly, which is why Crysis Wars has essentially evolved the formula. However Warfare mode is well designed, its just the combat quirks and glitches that are the bane of the game in this department. Without a doubt its online is not as strong as COD4s and Killzone's. However ultimately its not Crysis's multiplayer that makes the game so highly re playable.

Mods? Again its your own problem. Mods dont 'make the game better' they add too it, those being there extend the longevity of the game, upcoming release like MechWarrior Living Legends seem to do so tenfold.

What makes an already highly re playable game, even more re playable is an added bonus, your own inability to appreciate it does not stop it from existing or validating my argument further.

It's still lackluster. It was still annoying, having it open was really nice, but it could feel like a task sometimes.

Games that get you bored usually don't have alot of replayabillity, tell me, how many people still actually play the campaign to this day except yourself?

I have no problem with my attention span, it was fun to use the editor, but it became boring after a while no matter how you put it, i tried to make some larger stuff now and then, but it was just pointless, it didn't feel like it was well enough, maybe it will change with crysis 2, but this was far from perfect. Y

es, crysis wars did show some various improvements, but they were not enough. It might not be the main point of the game, but the main point (singleplayer/editor was really nothing to brag about.

Mods, in this case did make the game better, and they were interesting, however it's annoying searching for proper mods that weren't filled with loads of **** screens on buildings.

I could say the same thing to you, your opinion doesn't change that me and alot of people did not find it as special as everyone though it was. If it was replayable, there would more people online, besides, almost nobody talk about the crysis singleplayer, most seem to talk about how much they can get out of their pc to make sure that the game works as smoothly as possible.

It's still lackluster. It was still annoying, having it open was really nice, but it could feel like a task sometimes.

Games that get you bored usually don't have alot of replayabillity

Communistsheep

And now we know that he didn't play it. One thing you could NEVER accuse Crysis of is being boring. Please please PLEASE provide me with proof you actually do own the game or else we will just ignore you as a hater.

I can't think of many FPS games that have a good story / campaign.

I owned a 360 / PS3 as I stated before and KZ2 was the best FPS I've ever played, until I bought a gaming PC and now I've seen the light. KZ2 has a really good online, but the campaign is poor, Rico ruined it. The "epic - ness" was ruined by bad writing and uninteresting characters. Though it did succeed in making you feel like you were in a war so that's a plus.

Basically not many games other than RPGs have any real reason for replaying the campaign. BUT! CRYSIS is borderline nonlinear, you there 100s of ways to approach each situation, not to mention the story is very epic. People call it generic, HOW IS IT GENERIC? people say crysis has bad gameplay, well console-fanboys I can mentions a list that could stretch around the earth about games for PS3/360 that has bad gameplay. CRYSIS" gameplay is far superior to most console FPS and the controls are better than every FPS on consoles, the graphics are better than any console game. I played Gears of War 2, MGS4, and Killzone 2 on a 40" sony bravia and Crysis still looks better.

Sure the online for Crysis is lacking, SO-WHAT? the mod community has been keeping Crysis alive since launch, and for those that say you don't like the modding community, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MISSING! some of the beast PC games are better because of the mod community!

Crysis looks better than any console game, with mods you can make it even better!

ARMA 2, people have made mods for new aircraft, units: like navy seals, even entirely new maps!

Morrowind, REVAMPED graphics, makes it look better than "regular" oblivion.

OBLVIION with mods can make it ALMOST comparable to crysis.

HALFLIFE2 cinematic mod, revamped graphics, makes the game new again!

And now even half-life 1 is being remade with new graphics by the modding community!

And another thing, Halo 2 and 3 is the biggest waste of money next to HAZE / lair / too human. No, even Too human is better than Halo 2 - 3 the story for Halo is good, but it has a very, very, VERY, bad campaign. I remember I beat it on legendary the MIDNIGHT release, with friends, I yawned all the way through. What people see in the online I'll never know, the online sucks too, Crysis Wars has better online than Halo.

Best FPS campaigns:

COD4 - IDK, the setting was just pure win. No replayability campaign wise, the online makes up for it.

KZ2 - horrible dialogue and bad characters ruined the experience, but the setting and war experience is great. Brian Cox made the game for me =) the online makes up for the lack of replayability.

Crysis - HIGHLY replayable, with different ways to go about situations, epic music, GOOD dialogue, interesting characters, action packed, and a cliff hanger ending that craps all over halo 2's wannabe cliff hanger makes you wanting more out of the game. Sadly the online is lackluster. HOWEVER! who buys just crysis anymore? I mean there is maxium editions with crysis wars and that makes up for the lackluster online for the 1st crysis. MODS also help. Anyone that can't appreciate a good mod is a noob.

Yes I said noob.

This thread needs moar PC screenshots to put those whiny consoleites in their graphical place.

CRYSIS

ARMA 2

STALKER; Clear Sky.

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It's still lackluster. It was still annoying, having it open was really nice, but it could feel like a task sometimes.

Games that get you bored usually don't have alot of replayabillity

BoloTheGreat

And now we know that he didn't play it. One thing you could NEVER accuse Crysis of is being boring. Please please PLEASE provide me with proof you actually do own the game or else we will just ignore you as a hater.

Games that get you bored usually don't have alot of replayabillity, tell me, how many people still actually play the campaign to this day except yourself?

Communistsheep

Plenty of, I'm one of them