Destructoid can't be serious...

http://www.destructoid.com/and-you-wonder-why-developers-hate-pc-gamers--193957.phtml

Its pretty obvious that nobody is going to buy a console port.

whats funny is, the full builds were leaked on PS3/XBOX360 2 weeks before PC leak, and destructoid had nothing to say about it.

You have to admit that's true thoughFunconsole

Except its not.

That^

You have to admit that's true thoughFunconsole

Would you buy a game that was 1/4th the content and quality of the previous?

Would you pay more for less?

This is over a month old...

You have to admit that's true thoughFunconsole

I remember that article... two months ago.... seriously why post this now

PC piracy has been prevalent for years, yet developers keep releasing games for PC, so developers obviously don't hate PC gamers. They just don't like pirates.

whats funny is that the people who read this article from this thread will say "hes wrong" but in reality hes making several valid points...oh wait, thats not funny, its just sad denial..

whats funny is, the full builds were leaked on PS3/XBOX360 2 weeks before PC leak, and destructoid had nothing to say about it.

Jankarcop

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

whats funny is, the full builds were leaked on PS3/XBOX360 2 weeks before PC leak, and destructoid had nothing to say about it.

vashkey

The build was leaked internally and was barely downloaded, try again :roll:

The article is stupid and console games are leaked way more often and way more early.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

whats funny is, the full builds were leaked on PS3/XBOX360 2 weeks before PC leak, and destructoid had nothing to say about it.

Jankarcop

The build was leaked internally and was barely downloaded, try again :roll:

Proof that it was barely downloaded?

It doesn't make a difference who leaked it, obviously the entire dev team didn't want it to happen. :roll:

The article is stupid and console games are leaked way more often and way more early.

Jankarcop

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]The article is stupid and console games are leaked way more often and way more early.

vashkey

http://torrentfreak.com/crysis-2-leak-fails-to-result-in-massive-download-fest-110213/

If I were EA, I would actuallypullthe PC version ofCrysis 2right now.

Sorry, but he totally jumped the gun, and it made no sense since console games are always leaked. Also, he wrote the article around the same time it was leaked, and there was nothing indicating it had mass downloads. He was being an ingorant fanboy.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]The article is stupid and console games are leaked way more often and way more early.

vashkey

Proof the PC version was downloaded more?

Old but funny.

I like how he swallows basically all of his words in the two additional notes. Guess he was a little trigger happy.

There is no actual reason to defend piracy. People who pirate are benefiting from the fruits of someone elses labor, no matter how badly ported the games are.

All you can really do to reduce piracy is create quality games that gamers want to buy and support. Look at Valve. Some people (like me) buy their games because they are dedicated to the company due to their quality products and great services and it has resulted in HL2 selling 12 million copies. I believe the piracy rate would go down (or not matter because of increased sales) if other developers had the same idea as Valve.

But a game being low quality doesn't make it okay for people to pirate it, and it doesn't make any sense at all to pirate in the first place. If someone feels it is worth $0.00 then why are they even playing it?? They obviously feel that it isn't worth anything yet they still play it? Sounds like they just have the ability to not pay and so don't pay.

didnt we already have a thread on this?

Um what he says is pretty much a fact.
I followed the piracy bent over at destructoid and its true pirates got literally irrate when he suggested they actually admit they are thieves.
And pc piracy is far worse then Console piracy.
Hermits are all the time talking about consolization...etc don't you wonder why these games are getting preferential treatment on consoles? cause they are guaranteed to be pirated on the PC regardless of DRM.

whats funny is that the people who read this article from this thread will say "hes wrong" but in reality hes making several valid points...oh wait, thats not funny, its just sad denial..

linkin_guy109

Asian girls. They even get better as pirates 8)

I like Jim Sterling. He's not afraid to speak the truth.

Problem?

The dude's a bigger tool than Micheal Patcher. :lol:

And of course the actual final build of the game was leaked and pirated first on the consoles. Console gets final build leaked before release, no one cares. PC gamers get a leaked beta that very few people actually downloaded, all hell breaks loose and PC gamers are all pure evil.ferret-gamer

And of course the actual final build of the game was leaked and pirated first on the consoles. Console gets final build leaked before release, no one cares. PC gamers get a leaked beta that very few people actually downloaded, all hell breaks loose and PC gamers are all pure evil.ferret-gamer

I like Jim Sterling. He's not afraid to speak the truth.

Problem?

KillerWabbit23

[QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

I like Jim Sterling. He's not afraid to speak the truth.

Problem?

zeta

So because he dislikes pirates and how they've screwed up PC gaming, he's biased?

That, my friend, is FOX news logic.

I love that we have evidence of PC piracy being a major problem, yet so many people are in denial... well chances are they are probably pirates themselves, and this is just an example of how the pirates get irate when someone suggests that they admit to being thieves.

Or maybe they are like they noble ostrich, sticking their noble heads in the sand, that way, what they can't see, can't hurt them.....?

There is a reason why so many games are built for consoles and the PC gets a shoddy port... you think this trend is by accident? You think companies havent crunched the numbers many many times over, for quite a few years? Cause and effect people... cause and effect.

[QUOTE="zeta"][QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

I like Jim Sterling. He's not afraid to speak the truth.

Problem?

KillerWabbit23

So because he dislikes pirates and how they've screwed up PC gaming, he's biased?

That, my friend, is FOX news logic.

I love that we have evidence of PC piracy being a major problem, yet so many people are in denial... well chances are they are probably pirates themselves, and this is just an example of how the pirates get irate when someone suggests that they admit to being thieves.

Or maybe they are like they noble ostrich, sticking their noble heads in the sand, that way, what they can't see, can't hurt them.....?

There is a reason why so many games are built for consoles and the PC gets a shoddy port... you think this trend is by accident? You think companies havent crunched the numbers many many times over, for quite a few years? Cause and effect people... cause and effect.

moistsandwich

[QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

[QUOTE="zeta"] there is a problem when it's a biased truth. Yeah, he'll fit right in FOX News.Robbazking

So because he dislikes pirates and how they've screwed up PC gaming, he's biased?

That, my friend, is FOX news logic.

But console pirating isn't as prevalent as it is on PC.

And yes, pirating does mean lost money. Saying it doesn't is just stupid.

I love that we have evidence of PC piracy being a major problem, yet so many people are in denial... well chances are they are probably pirates themselves, and this is just an example of how the pirates get irate when someone suggests that they admit to being thieves.

Or maybe they are like they noble ostrich, sticking their noble heads in the sand, that way, what they can't see, can't hurt them.....?

There is a reason why so many games are built for consoles and the PC gets a shoddy port... you think this trend is by accident? You think companies havent crunched the numbers many many times over, for quite a few years? Cause and effect people... cause and effect.

moistsandwich

Well, its pretty much just like the Console gamers and the used games market, from devs and pubs its the exact same thing, someone gets a copy of your game without them getting anything

WE can thus conclude that the potential customers have a fairly large chunk who utterly bones the industry.

[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

So because he dislikes pirates and how they've screwed up PC gaming, he's biased?

That, my friend, is FOX news logic.

KillerWabbit23

But console pirating isn't as prevalent as it is on PC.

And yes, pirating does mean lost money. Saying it doesn't is just stupid.

[QUOTE="zeta"][QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

I like Jim Sterling. He's not afraid to speak the truth.

Problem?

KillerWabbit23

So because he dislikes pirates and how they've screwed up PC gaming, he's biased?

That, my friend, is FOX news logic.

I stopped at "Destructoid".funsohng

I love that we have evidence of PC piracy being a major problem, yet so many people are in denial... well chances are they are probably pirates themselves, and this is just an example of how the pirates get irate when someone suggests that they admit to being thieves.

moistsandwich

PC gamers do not like being compared to or related to thieves. This is most likely where some of the "irate" behavior comes from rather than a pirate being in denial.

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[QUOTE="Robbazking"] Nah pretty much all multi platform game leaks to the ps3 and 360 weeks before pc, he haven't mentioned that. And why would we care anyway each pirated download don't mean money lost anyway. This goes for any platform there is.Robbazking

But console pirating isn't as prevalent as it is on PC.

And yes, pirating does mean lost money. Saying it doesn't is just stupid.

I don't doubt that some forms of piracy are harmless economically.

But if the pirated game in question doesn't work as well as, say, the retail version, then you've gotta deal with word of mouth and such.

Take HL2, for example. Some German guy got his hands on the source code of HL2 awhile before release. It was a buggy mess, and as a result, word of mouth spread and many people decided not to buy the game, which did result in lost sales, no matter how much damage control Valve did.

Not to mention many people just take the lazy route and pirate a game instead of buying it. You can't deny people don't do that.

So, yes. Pirating does mean lost money.

[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

So because he dislikes pirates and how they've screwed up PC gaming, he's biased?

That, my friend, is FOX news logic.

KillerWabbit23

But console pirating isn't as prevalent as it is on PC.

And yes, pirating does mean lost money. Saying it doesn't is just stupid.

Right, so that makes pirating on a console an ok thing to do? Unbelievable. :lol: So PC pirates are thieves but console pirates are not? :lol:

[QUOTE="Robbazking"]

[QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

But console pirating isn't as prevalent as it is on PC.

And yes, pirating does mean lost money. Saying it doesn't is just stupid.

KillerWabbit23

I don't doubt that some forms of piracy are harmless economically.

But if the pirated game in question doesn't work as well as, say, the retail version, then you've gotta deal with word of mouth and such.

Take HL2, for example. Some German guy got his hands on the source code of HL2 awhile before release. It was a buggy mess, and as a result, word of mouth spread and many people decided not to buy the game, which did result in lost sales, no matter how much damage control Valve did.

Not to mention many people just take the lazy route and pirate a game instead of buying it. You can't deny people don't do that.

So, yes. Pirating does mean lost money.

Didn't HL2 end up selling like 10+ million copies? Where was the lost money in that? If anything it promoted the game, not drove people away from it.

Guess all console gamers pirate too.

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[QUOTE="Robbazking"] Nah pretty much all multi platform game leaks to the ps3 and 360 weeks before pc, he haven't mentioned that. And why would we care anyway each pirated download don't mean money lost anyway. This goes for any platform there is.DreamCryotank

But console pirating isn't as prevalent as it is on PC.

And yes, pirating does mean lost money. Saying it doesn't is just stupid.

Right, so that makes pirating on a console an ok thing to do? Unbelievable. :lol: So PC pirates are thieves but console pirates are not? :lol:

/facepalm

Noooooo. All I said was that PC piracy is more prevalent. That does not, in any way, mean that console piracy is justifiable.

I'm very much against both.

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

[QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

But console pirating isn't as prevalent as it is on PC.

And yes, pirating does mean lost money. Saying it doesn't is just stupid.

KillerWabbit23

Right, so that makes pirating on a console an ok thing to do? Unbelievable. :lol: So PC pirates are thieves but console pirates are not? :lol:

/facepalm

Noooooo. All I said was that PC piracy is more prevalent. That does not, in any way, mean that console piracy is justifiable.

I'm very much against both.

Still doesn't make it fair to just pinpoint PC pirates, hate on them, and turn a blind eye to the hundreds of thousands of console pirates.

[QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

Right, so that makes pirating on a console an ok thing to do? Unbelievable. :lol: So PC pirates are thieves but console pirates are not? :lol:

DreamCryotank

/facepalm

Noooooo. All I said was that PC piracy is more prevalent. That does not, in any way, mean that console piracy is justifiable.

I'm very much against both.

Still doesn't make it fair to just pinpoint PC pirates, hate on them, and turn a blind eye to the millions of console pirates.

Fixed. If you combine all consoles it'd outscore PC pirates. Lets not even bring handhelds into this.

Fixed. If you combine all consoles it'd outscore PC pirates. Lets not even bring handhelds into this.

ChubbyGuy40