Dev's Say Games Enhanced on PS4 Over PC Versions (Link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPr8ia-cZOw

Thats right PC fanboys watch it and weep.

Latest gen consoles have not only eliminated the small margin of quality that PC graphics and gameplay had over 360 and PS3 but they have now exceeded the PC versions.

I for one am thrilled, i've always preferred console gaming for it's singularity when it comes to hardware development and controls and just pushing the power button and playing your game within 30 seconds and now the hardware is equal to if not better than most PC's on the market for playing games.

ok lets not get aheaf of ourselves here BUT...there is a huge advantage for PS4 compared to last gen ps3. It's easy to develop for (as confirmed by this dev). I can imagine game devs reallly being able to use the ps4 to its potential and companies like Naughty Dog take games to the next level.  

Did you sell your Ouya, tc?heeweesRus

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summary?

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RR360DD

well, maybe you shouldn't have killed mufasa, Scar.

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RR360DD

>Implying the Developers of Warframe have completely maxed out the latest PC graphics cards.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

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lostrib

well, maybe you shouldn't have killed mufasa, Scar.

indeed.Mufasa was a pretty cool guy.

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

PS4 has such a huge advantage over xbone. These F2P games are HUGE (imo). Lets say you have enough money to buy onlye 2 games at launch. You also have these additional (full) games to play as well.

Ps4 is the way to go folks.  

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

heretrix

there already are those cards 

Here come the PC defense force

RR360DD

PS4 has such a huge advantage over xbone. These F2P games are HUGE (imo). Lets say you have enough money to buy onlye 2 games at launch. You also have these additional (full) games to play as well.

Ps4 is the way to go folks.  

Ribnarak

did you forget that according to console fanboys, F2P games are garbage?

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

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donalbane

not yet. we're free until 10am PST

Just finished the first like 5 minutes talking about Warframe and I still didn't hear how the PS4 enhances the game over the PC. It sounds like it's just gonna be the exact same and anything added to the PS4 will be added to the PC version 

But I do love how you can play on PC then kick back and play it on PS4 under the same account/warframe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPr8ia-cZOw

Thats right PC fanboys watch it and weep.

Latest gen consoles have not only eliminated the small margin of quality that PC graphics and gameplay had over 360 and PS3 but they have now exceeded the PC versions.

I for one am thrilled, i've always preferred console gaming for it's singularity when it comes to hardware development and controls and just pushing the power button and playing your game within 30 seconds and now the hardware is equal to if not better than most PC's on the market for playing games.

Slimmin360

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

heretrix

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Here come the PC defense force

donalbane

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

Slimmin360

yes, I'm sure that's why Watch Dogs and dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platform. And why BF4 has been shown everytime running on a PC

Just finished the first like 5 minutes talking about Warframe and I still didn't hear how the PS4 enhances the game over the PC. It sounds like it's just gonna be the exact same and anything added to the PS4 will be added to the PC version 

But I do love how you can play on PC then kick back and play it on PS4 under the same account/warframe

seanmcloughlin

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

lostrib

yes, I'm sure that's why Watch Dogs and dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platform. And why BF4 has been shown everytime running on a PC

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

Slimmin360

And this is the same stuff people say every gen too. history repeats itself every console change and people fall for all the PR talk and hype

The PS4 will be a great system when it launches but soon devs will discover new and better ways to render things that require more power to do and the PC will be the only avenue they can do it on. Once they tap into the PS4s power and start maxing things it all goes downhill after that and it will likely happen sooner this time because there isn't a CELL chip to work around and try to figure out. The architecture is as simple and unified as it gets 

Console games will still look and play great but there will come a time where the PC starts getting far ahead again. Once they hit a wall with PS4 or X1 they will turn back to PC for the extra power

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Just finished the first like 5 minutes talking about Warframe and I still didn't hear how the PS4 enhances the game over the PC. It sounds like it's just gonna be the exact same and anything added to the PS4 will be added to the PC version 

But I do love how you can play on PC then kick back and play it on PS4 under the same account/warframe

Slimmin360

Did you also miss the part where the Warframe dev said "That's what we HOPE anyway" when talking about how the game scales? Or how the Planetside 2 dev said "I haven't seen it yet but I assume it looks good". He also said "It's gonna be at a steady awesome framerate" which is completely vague and if it's at 30 fps then no thank you. Plentside's aiming responsiveness is laggy at the best of times at 60 fps let alone being gimped down to 30. 

It's still all hypotheticals. But it isn't news that consoles are far easier to optimise for than PCs, that's a known fact for a long time.

Also don't put too much stock in this as these guys are hired to sell the PS4 to you and their game. they're not gonna say "Well the PC is much better but the PS4 version is close to it" because it's bad business practices. They want to sell the game to you (not literall cos F2P) but they want you to play the game on the PS4 as much as possible

interesting...

THHBO

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

lostrib

yes, I'm sure that's why Watch Dogs and dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platform. And why BF4 has been shown everytime running on a PC

interesting...

 

THHBO

Douevenlift_bro

Did you watch the video? 

All these games that are getting ported to ps4-I hope we can use the same account for both platforms.

I really do not want to lose all the stuff I have unlocked...

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Those graphics cards will not be in all PC's on the planet, and it is therefore more costly for dev's to development a game in 3 or 4 iterations of performance for the minimum- medium, and maximum requirements for various PC's. They prefer to develop for a console because of it's singular hardware with a singular install base, no minimum or maximum requirement versions required, they can just max out the games settings for the PS4 or Xbox One for that matter, and thus the game will run. Face it consoles are just better all the way around!!!legalize82

yes, I'm sure that's why Watch Dogs and dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platform. And why BF4 has been shown everytime running on a PC

How does that explain dark souls 2? And he just said consoles.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Those graphics cards will not be in all PC's on the planet, and it is therefore more costly for dev's to development a game in 3 or 4 iterations of performance for the minimum- medium, and maximum requirements for various PC's. They prefer to develop for a console because of it's singular hardware with a singular install base, no minimum or maximum requirement versions required, they can just max out the games settings for the PS4 or Xbox One for that matter, and thus the game will run. Face it consoles are just better all the way around!!!RR360DD

yes, I'm sure that's why Watch Dogs and dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platform. And why BF4 has been shown everytime running on a PC

Fanboy speculations

PS4 has such a huge advantage over xbone. These F2P games are HUGE (imo). Lets say you have enough money to buy onlye 2 games at launch. You also have these additional (full) games to play as well.

Ps4 is the way to go folks.  

Ribnarak

All he did was confirm it would look the same as on PC. In regards to the Planetside 2 interview, I'm calling bull. How can he say you need a $2,000 PC to run the game as well has PS4? My PC is no where near $2,000 and I can run the game on Ultra, 1080p, averaging about 50FPS in combat.PonchoTaco

Yep, he was using a bit too much hyperbole for me to take him seriously. 

To me that interview just sounded like "Console guys will be watching this, let's upsell as much as possible"

If the PS4 can run it maxed out with literally 0 compromises then that's impressive. But when it will likely be toned down to 30 fps to try maintain those visuals then I don't want to know about it. Competitive FPS games at 30 fps are a chore to play

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]All he did was confirm it would look the same as on PC. In regards to the Planetside 2 interview, I'm calling bull. How can he say you need a $2,000 PC to run the game as well has PS4? My PC is no where near $2,000 and I can run the game on Ultra, 1080p, averaging about 50FPS in combat.seanmcloughlin

Yep, he was using a bit too much hyperbole for me to take him seriously. 

To me that interview just sounded like "Console guys will be watching this, let's upsell as much as possible"

If the PS4 can run it maxed out with literally 0 compromises then that's impressive. But when it will likely be toned down to 30 fps to try maintain those visuals then I don't want to know about it. Competitive FPS games at 30 fps are a chore to play

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

yes, I'm sure that's why Watch Dogs and dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platform. And why BF4 has been shown everytime running on a PC

lostrib

How does that explain dark souls 2? And he just said consoles.

In other news devs are jumping on the PS4 hype train in hopes of epic sales

and are too lazy to put their efforts of the PS4 into the PC version

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

Slimmin360

Not all devs think like that. Take a look at most of Square Enix published games this gen like Sleeping Dogs, the Batman Arkham series, Tomb Raider, etc. They outclass their console counterparts by a large margin graphically and run with better framerates. 

I don't have to face anything, I know better. As a platform the PC will always be better. 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"] maybe because devs still have no final dev kits ? clyde46

How does that explain dark souls 2? And he just said consoles.

uh, obviously legalize 82 knows better

You guys do understand Warframe only need a 8600GT to run minimum.

With a GTX 660 (a pretty basic card) you're maxing this on 1080p with 70-75 frames per second.

I definetly hope they can expans upon this for the console release on a closed hardware environment, hell maybe they'll bring it down to 30fps to add some eyecandy for the consoles.

At best you'll see parity between these games on console and PC.  They won't add effects to the PS4 and not add it to the PC Version.

Console gamers are so desperate and pahetic. 

The PC is the lead paltform for most "next gen" games now, and for the enxt couple fo years, after which the PC will be ahead of "next gen" consoles in terms of hardware, that' even though console ports will increase, they will still feature PC enhancements that you don't see on consoles.

JUST LIKE THIS GENERATION.

But keep on reaching consolites. 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]All he did was confirm it would look the same as on PC. In regards to the Planetside 2 interview, I'm calling bull. How can he say you need a $2,000 PC to run the game as well has PS4? My PC is no where near $2,000 and I can run the game on Ultra, 1080p, averaging about 50FPS in combat.PonchoTaco

Yep, he was using a bit too much hyperbole for me to take him seriously. 

To me that interview just sounded like "Console guys will be watching this, let's upsell as much as possible"

If the PS4 can run it maxed out with literally 0 compromises then that's impressive. But when it will likely be toned down to 30 fps to try maintain those visuals then I don't want to know about it. Competitive FPS games at 30 fps are a chore to play

He even admitted before that that he hasn't even seen the PS4 version so the whole interview sounds off.

At least the Warframe guy is actually a programmer for the game and notice how he didn't say any Bullshit claims

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Yep, he was using a bit too much hyperbole for me to take him seriously. 

To me that interview just sounded like "Console guys will be watching this, let's upsell as much as possible"

If the PS4 can run it maxed out with literally 0 compromises then that's impressive. But when it will likely be toned down to 30 fps to try maintain those visuals then I don't want to know about it. Competitive FPS games at 30 fps are a chore to play

seanmcloughlin

He even admitted before that that he hasn't even seen the PS4 version so the whole interview sounds off.

At least the Warframe guy is actually a programmer for the game and notice how he didn't say any Bullshit claims

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

heretrix

Not all devs think like that. Take a look at most of Square Enix published games this gen like Sleeping Dogs, the Batman Arkham series, Tomb Raider, etc. They outclass their console counterparts by a large margin graphically and run with better framerates. 

I don't have to face anything, I know better. As a platform the PC will always be better. 

I hear people hyping The Last of Us graphics, I played it.  It looks horrible compared to PC games from years ago, and pretty much every port out as well. Full of jaggies and horrible textures, what they did with the hardware was pretty amazing, but people really need to stop trying to hype up the console graphics as they will be quite dissapointed.

Hope they understand that the consoles were holding back the PC / Ports.  Now that they are using a more PC-like architecture porting to PC should be even easier. Hell the next-gen consoles are basically a mid-tier gaming PC from a year ago (well the PS4 is, the X1 is like a mid-tier from 2 years ago)

EDIT:  Listened to a bit more of the interview, they are basically saying you're going to get the Ultra/High settings of the games they have on PC that we been getting for awhile.  I am playing those games on hardware thats three years old on 1080p with 60+ FPS.

I'm a gamer, I'm not a fanboy of any platform, but comparing the raw power of PC to a Console is just silly.  Especially if you know the specs already.  Yeah they are a closed system and easier to develop for, but that only accounts for so much.

Not all devs think like that. Take a look at most of Square Enix published games this gen like Sleeping Dogs, the Batman Arkham series, Tomb Raider, etc. They outclass their console counterparts by a large margin graphically and run with better framerates. 

I don't have to face anything, I know better. As a platform the PC will always be better. 

 

heretrix

I hate how people also forget that a gaming PC is still a really great day to day PC too. If my PC was ONLY for gaming I honestly don't think I could justify it but because it allows me to do sooooooo much more, the price is a non issue

If the PS4 could use kb/m, record footage, encode, edit and render the videos for me all the while I could work on photoshopping images then I'd agree it would be awesome but for now my PC can do a lot more 

Look i know there is always hype surrounding new consoles, and PC's are the only upgradable pieces of hardware on the market.

That being said, the public majority of soccer mom's and working middle class are not going to be buying $1000 or $2000 PC's at Christmas time.

They will be wanting to get the most for there money and considering all the various price points of PC's and existing console hardware this holiday season, the PS4 will be the logical choice, and i don't think any gamer will be disappointed with PS4's performance.

Another day, another stupid thread from consolites :P that have zero basic understanding of hardware or software development.