Dev's Say Games Enhanced on PS4 Over PC Versions (Link)

Look i know there is always hype surrounding new consoles, and PC's are the only upgradable pieces of hardware on the market.

That being said, the public majority of soccer mom's and working middle class are not going to be buying $1000 or $2000 PC's at Christmas time.

They will be wanting to get the most for there money and considering all the various price points of PC's and existing console hardware this holiday season, the PS4 will be the logical choice, and i don't think any gamer will be disappointed with PS4's performance.

Slimmin360

Are we just bringing up irrelevant crap now?

I hear people hyping The Last of Us graphics, I played it.  It looks horrible compared to PC games from years ago, and pretty much every port out as well. Full of jaggies and horrible textures, what they did with the hardware was pretty amazing, but people really need to stop trying to hype up the console graphics as they will be quite dissapointed.

145ty

I played on PC only for 2 straight years without ever seeing a console game in that time up close and I still though TLoU looked great. Sure it has shoddy textures and need better AA and AF but some of the stuff in that game is hard to deny. The lighting and shadows are amazing in it and the character models are great for such crap hardware

Compared to PC games? sure you could say it looks bad. But it's far from an ugly game

Look i know there is always hype surrounding new consoles, and PC's are the only upgradable pieces of hardware on the market.

That being said, the public majority of soccer mom's and working middle class are not going to be buying $1000 or $2000 PC's at Christmas time.

They will be wanting to get the most for there money and considering all the various price points of PC's and existing console hardware this holiday season, the PS4 will be the logical choice, and i don't think any gamer will be disappointed with PS4's performance.

Slimmin360

You sure changed your tune from what the OP was

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

seanmcloughlin

And this is the same stuff people say every gen too. history repeats itself every console change and people fall for all the PR talk and hype

The PS4 will be a great system when it launches but soon devs will discover new and better ways to render things that require more power to do and the PC will be the only avenue they can do it on. Once they tap into the PS4s power and start maxing things it all goes downhill after that and it will likely happen sooner this time because there isn't a CELL chip to work around and try to figure out. The architecture is as simple and unified as it gets 

Console games will still look and play great but there will come a time where the PC starts getting far ahead again. Once they hit a wall with PS4 or X1 they will turn back to PC for the extra power

[QUOTE="145ty"]

I hear people hyping The Last of Us graphics, I played it.  It looks horrible compared to PC games from years ago, and pretty much every port out as well. Full of jaggies and horrible textures, what they did with the hardware was pretty amazing, but people really need to stop trying to hype up the console graphics as they will be quite dissapointed.

seanmcloughlin

I played on PC only for 2 straight years without ever seeing a console game in that time up close and I still though TLoU looked great. Sure it has shoddy textures and need better AA and AF but some of the stuff in that game is hard to deny. The lighting and shadows are amazing in it and the character models are great for such crap hardware

Compared to PC games? sure you could say it looks bad. But it's far from an ugly game

 

That being said, the public majority of soccer mom's and working middle class are not going to be buying $1000 or $2000 PC's at Christmas time.

 

Slimmin360

What the hell does this have to do with anythign being discussed?

And it's not like it's a ringing endorsement for consoles either.

Consoles: The gamign platform idiot soccer moms would buy!

YEah, we all know soccer moms don't know anythign abotu gmaing platforms and are pretty technologically ignorant, so they're going to go for the cheapest possible "video game plastic box" they cna find for their rugrats.

What does that say about consoles, except that they're cheap. Cheap seldom = better.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Those graphics cards will not be in all PC's on the planet, and it is therefore more costly for dev's to development a game in 3 or 4 iterations of performance for the minimum- medium, and maximum requirements for various PC's. They prefer to develop for a console because of it's singular hardware with a singular install base, no minimum or maximum requirement versions required, they can just max out the games settings for the PS4 or Xbox One for that matter, and thus the game will run. Face it consoles are just better all the way around!!!145ty

Not all devs think like that. Take a look at most of Square Enix published games this gen like Sleeping Dogs, the Batman Arkham series, Tomb Raider, etc. They outclass their console counterparts by a large margin graphically and run with better framerates. 

I don't have to face anything, I know better. As a platform the PC will always be better. 

I hear people hyping The Last of Us graphics, I played it.  It looks horrible compared to PC games from years ago, and pretty much every port out as well. Full of jaggies and horrible textures, what they did with the hardware was pretty amazing, but people really need to stop trying to hype up the console graphics as they will be quite dissapointed.

Hope they understand that the consoles were holding back the PC / Ports.  Now that they are using a more PC-like architecture porting to PC should be even easier. Hell the next-gen consoles are basically a mid-tier gaming PC from a year ago (well the PS4 is, the X1 is like a mid-tier from 2 years ago)

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]

Look i know there is always hype surrounding new consoles, and PC's are the only upgradable pieces of hardware on the market.

That being said, the public majority of soccer mom's and working middle class are not going to be buying $1000 or $2000 PC's at Christmas time.

They will be wanting to get the most for there money and considering all the various price points of PC's and existing console hardware this holiday season, the PS4 will be the logical choice, and i don't think any gamer will be disappointed with PS4's performance.

seanmcloughlin

You sure changed your tune from what the OP was

[QUOTE="145ty"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Not all devs think like that. Take a look at most of Square Enix published games this gen like Sleeping Dogs, the Batman Arkham series, Tomb Raider, etc. They outclass their console counterparts by a large margin graphically and run with better framerates. 

I don't have to face anything, I know better. As a platform the PC will always be better. 

 

heretrix

I hear people hyping The Last of Us graphics, I played it.  It looks horrible compared to PC games from years ago, and pretty much every port out as well. Full of jaggies and horrible textures, what they did with the hardware was pretty amazing, but people really need to stop trying to hype up the console graphics as they will be quite dissapointed.

Hope they understand that the consoles were holding back the PC / Ports.  Now that they are using a more PC-like architecture porting to PC should be even easier. Hell the next-gen consoles are basically a mid-tier gaming PC from a year ago (well the PS4 is, the X1 is like a mid-tier from 2 years ago)

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

Another day, another stupid thread from consolites :P that have zero basic understanding of hardware or software development.

jhonMalcovich

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="145ty"]

 

I hear people hyping The Last of Us graphics, I played it.  It looks horrible compared to PC games from years ago, and pretty much every port out as well. Full of jaggies and horrible textures, what they did with the hardware was pretty amazing, but people really need to stop trying to hype up the console graphics as they will be quite dissapointed.

 

Hope they understand that the consoles were holding back the PC / Ports.  Now that they are using a more PC-like architecture porting to PC should be even easier. Hell the next-gen consoles are basically a mid-tier gaming PC from a year ago (well the PS4 is, the X1 is like a mid-tier from 2 years ago)

145ty

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Another day, another stupid thread from consolites :P that have zero basic understanding of hardware or software development.

Slimmin360

^haha, dat butthurt

I lol'd.

The thing I noticed a lot this gen as far as hyping console graphics is how people tend to miss the compromise devs make to make games look good on consoles. Take Killzone for instance, the graphics look great for the most part but usually you are playing in small cutoff areas with an FOV the size of a mailslot. Sure you can make these games look great but you have to do tricks to get that effect. On a PC you really don't have that and if your box isn't powerful to handle the graphics (or physics) you can dial it down.

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

heretrix

That's the thing, people see shiny things and go off the deep end. They don't notice stuff like this because they usually haven't had it before. Consoles don't have FOV options, they usually run games at 30 fps anyway and they were sub HD before. Keeping 30 fps with an FOV of 45 or whatever doesn't mean much because it's what consoles are used to. But shiny new graphics grab attention more

I was playing Skyrim recently and it's astonishing how much mods add to the game. The same goes for New Vegas. It's just mindblowing how much content is available for those games and none of it is available for the consoles. 

heretrix

Same is true for a great deal of PC games. Just look at The Witcher 2, we got a whole combat rebalance mod that makes the game far more balanced and better to play all for free. 

Then you have something like Portal 2 that has all those community based maps and a test chamber editor that adds years of life to a game that's dead on consoles

Well if we take the average spec PC from the steam survey which is fairly representative then I am sure the PS4 is a bit better. Compared to a PC gaming enthusiasts PC it is behind and in a few years the PS4 will be out dated just because technology moves that fast.btk2k2

The avarage PC on Steam is not the avrage gaming PC. And that still leaves tens fo millions of PC's that are just as powerful as the PS4 or more powerful.

In 3 years the average PC will be just as powerful as PS4, even withou a discreet GPU (as both intel, but specially AMD release increaisngly more powerful APU's), and systems with discreet GPU's will pwn a PS4 any day of the week.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="145ty"]

 

I hear people hyping The Last of Us graphics, I played it.  It looks horrible compared to PC games from years ago, and pretty much every port out as well. Full of jaggies and horrible textures, what they did with the hardware was pretty amazing, but people really need to stop trying to hype up the console graphics as they will be quite dissapointed.

 

Hope they understand that the consoles were holding back the PC / Ports.  Now that they are using a more PC-like architecture porting to PC should be even easier. Hell the next-gen consoles are basically a mid-tier gaming PC from a year ago (well the PS4 is, the X1 is like a mid-tier from 2 years ago)

145ty

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

[QUOTE="btk2k2"]Well if we take the average spec PC from the steam survey which is fairly representative then I am sure the PS4 is a bit better. Compared to a PC gaming enthusiasts PC it is behind and in a few years the PS4 will be out dated just because technology moves that fast.Kinthalis

The avarage PC on Steam is not the avrage gaming PC. And that still leaves tens fo millions of PC's that are just as powerful as the PS4 or more powerful.

In 3 years the average PC will be just as powerful as PS4, even withou a discreet GPU (as both intel, but specially AMD release increaisngly more powerful APU's), and systems with discreet GPU's will pwn a PS4 any day of the week.

[QUOTE="145ty"][QUOTE="heretrix"]The thing I noticed a lot this gen as far as hyping console graphics is how people tend to miss the compromise devs make to make games look good on consoles. Take Killzone for instance, the graphics look great for the most part but usually you are playing in small cutoff areas with an FOV the size of a mailslot. Sure you can make these games look great but you have to do tricks to get that effect. On a PC you really don't have that and if your box isn't powerful to handle the graphics (or physics) you can dial it down.

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

Slimmin360

Beat what?

I have 3 PC's, 1 hooked up to a 32" TV, another in a different room with a monitor (Bro's rig which i gave to him)

And then there is my rig, i play with a controller if i want to be lazy like you.

You forgot all those updates and downloads on PS3 and 360 now did'nt you?

MGS4, over 1 hour install...

LMFAO

[QUOTE="145ty"][QUOTE="heretrix"]The thing I noticed a lot this gen as far as hyping console graphics is how people tend to miss the compromise devs make to make games look good on consoles. Take Killzone for instance, the graphics look great for the most part but usually you are playing in small cutoff areas with an FOV the size of a mailslot. Sure you can make these games look great but you have to do tricks to get that effect. On a PC you really don't have that and if your box isn't powerful to handle the graphics (or physics) you can dial it down.

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

Slimmin360

wake PC from sleep, click icon. done

Two things about PS4 that make it better than PCs. 1. Like the guy said they can make bigger environments because they don't have to dumb down the game so they can sell to low end PCs. 2. The PS4 has PC-like architecture and can do more since it's a closed-loop system. 

The biggest problem with PCs is that they have varying ranges of CPU, GPU, & RAM. PS4 is the same always. 

 PS4 is the same always. 

clr84651

found the problem right here

Two things about PS4 that make it better than PCs. 1. Like the guy said they can make bigger environments because they don't have to dumb down the game so they can sell to low end PCs. 2. The PS4 has PC-like architecture and can do more since it's a closed-loop system. 

The biggest problem with PCs is that they have varying ranges of CPU, GPU, & RAM. PS4 is the same always. 

clr84651

PC games have changable settings for a reason, PC games are not set to one set of graphics unlike your consoles.

See video: UE4 PS4 vs PC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFgVR2Ke0XY

Well if we take the average spec PC from the steam survey which is fairly representative then I am sure the PS4 is a bit better. Compared to a PC gaming enthusiasts PC it is behind and in a few years the PS4 will be out dated just because technology moves that fast.btk2k2

wake PC from sleep, click icon. done

lostrib

PC is always on uploading and downloading so just click icon for me haha

Also SSDs make booting up your system take seconds

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

heretrix

PCs are good except their specs have too wide of a range. They evolve too fast. This forces PC game devs to make games for the lower end PCs so they can sell enough. Therefore high end PCs don't get the kind of games they're capable of using. 

Crysis 3 vs Killzone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfPCZrx3UPg

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[QUOTE="145ty"][QUOTE="heretrix"]The thing I noticed a lot this gen as far as hyping console graphics is how people tend to miss the compromise devs make to make games look good on consoles. Take Killzone for instance, the graphics look great for the most part but usually you are playing in small cutoff areas with an FOV the size of a mailslot. Sure you can make these games look great but you have to do tricks to get that effect. On a PC you really don't have that and if your box isn't powerful to handle the graphics (or physics) you can dial it down.

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

Slimmin360

lol. You just described downloading process for a psn game.

On PSN, you download a bunch of pieces of the game such as single-player pack, multiplayer pack, single-player 2d movie pack, 10GB each. Then you have to install every pack individually, 30 mins of real time to install each pack. Then you have to wait until a bunch of additional patches are downloaded and installed.

And only then you can start a game.

On Steam, you download a game and you play it. Period.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

The thing I noticed a lot this gen as far as hyping console graphics is how people tend to miss the compromise devs make to make games look good on consoles. Take Killzone for instance, the graphics look great for the most part but usually you are playing in small cutoff areas with an FOV the size of a mailslot. Sure you can make these games look great but you have to do tricks to get that effect. On a PC you really don't have that and if your box isn't powerful to handle the graphics (or physics) you can dial it down.

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

seanmcloughlin

That's the thing, people see shiny things and go off the deep end. They don't notice stuff like this because they usually haven't had it before. Consoles don't have FOV options, they usually run games at 30 fps anyway and they were sub HD before. Keeping 30 fps with an FOV of 45 or whatever doesn't mean much because it's what consoles are used to. But shiny new graphics grab attention more

That video sucks and has old footage in there from E3.

We all know F2P games are meant to run on a wide variety of PC's. You have to set the limit some where.

Consoles are fixed... Where as PC is not. Also comment knowledge.

New consoles will be better then low end PC's for a few years. Mid range is where they mainly sit.

One of the most popular F2P games WOT only uses 1 CPU core. By no means pushing a modern PC. While looking like crap on last gen console.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="145ty"] Or a modded Skyrim.. I recently modded Skyrim (runs decent 30ish FPS on my 560 Ti) and that game honestly looks better then ANY next-gen game showed yet and it was open world.lostrib

wake PC from sleep, click icon. done

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Oh great here come all the PC fanboys with there laundry list of hardware specs.......Intel I7 3.6ghz..blah blah and 32gbs of ddr3ram...blah blah, and 2 terabyte HD blah blah...who the heck cares? Turn on a PC, wait for it to boot up, drop in a game disc or start up a dowloaded game on Steam and sit through various updates, logins and load times and tell me how long it is before your actually playing your game hunched over your computer monitor with all your super specs on your PC. Console, sit across the living room in your big recliner, in front of my 50-inch plasma, power on system put disc in or select downloaded game, 5 to 10 seconds loaded, press start and your playing....beat that PC fans.Slimmin360

wake PC from sleep, click icon. done

It is that easy.

Welcome to 2013 bob.

LOL Yeah right, if it was that easy, i would be gaming on PC's, let's not forget game load times, logins to steam or any multiplayer game, host issues, erratic game closures, and system error...all this happens eveyrday when gaming on PC's and don't try to deny it, i've gone through it dozens of times on the highest end PC's.Slimmin360

Happens every day?

Also, do you know what auto-logins are?

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

The thing I noticed a lot this gen as far as hyping console graphics is how people tend to miss the compromise devs make to make games look good on consoles. Take Killzone for instance, the graphics look great for the most part but usually you are playing in small cutoff areas with an FOV the size of a mailslot. Sure you can make these games look great but you have to do tricks to get that effect. On a PC you really don't have that and if your box isn't powerful to handle the graphics (or physics) you can dial it down.

The reason why you still see Crysis brought up so much is because it's a very good example of uncompromised graphical game design and how it can stand up through an entire console generation without peer. It still looks better than most console games.

heretrix

That's the thing, people see shiny things and go off the deep end. They don't notice stuff like this because they usually haven't had it before. Consoles don't have FOV options, they usually run games at 30 fps anyway and they were sub HD before. Keeping 30 fps with an FOV of 45 or whatever doesn't mean much because it's what consoles are used to. But shiny new graphics grab attention more

Yeah I remember when I got a PS3 again and played TLoU the game started to chug and slowdown a bit and I was gonna go into options and change settings.The PS3 was getting hot too and I wanted to adjust fans but couldn't as a habit of playing on PC for so long lol

LOL Yeah right, if it was that easy, i would be gaming on PC's, let's not forget game load times, logins to steam or any multiplayer game, host issues, erratic game closures, and system error...all this happens eveyrday when gaming on PC's and don't try to deny it, i've gone through it dozens of times on the highest end PC's.Slimmin360

Load times on PC are exponentially faster than console games. Sure logging into steam is another barrier but it literally takes seconds to do. Then the game starts super fast. You can also disable intro logos or skip them more on PC than consoles. When all is said and done you're in the game running around WAY faster than on a console. 

You do get random crashes on some games but if it happened "everyday" to you then that's something wrong with the system you played on. Not the game or the platform as a whole. Last time a game crashed on me completely was months ago. Where as on my PS3 it happened yesterday playing Demon's Souls. 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Oh great here come all the PC fanboys with there laundry list of hardware specs.......Intel I7 3.6ghz..blah blah and 32gbs of ddr3ram...blah blah, and 2 terabyte HD blah blah...who the heck cares? Turn on a PC, wait for it to boot up, drop in a game disc or start up a dowloaded game on Steam and sit through various updates, logins and load times and tell me how long it is before your actually playing your game hunched over your computer monitor with all your super specs on your PC. Console, sit across the living room in your big recliner, in front of my 50-inch plasma, power on system put disc in or select downloaded game, 5 to 10 seconds loaded, press start and your playing....beat that PC fans.Slimmin360

wake PC from sleep, click icon. done

Game load times are faster on PC, especially those on SSD. Steam auto logins, same with most multiplayer games.  Most system errors on my PC are caused by myself, and system errors are not exclusive to PC (RROD, YLOD, disc read error, etc).

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]LOL Yeah right, if it was that easy, i would be gaming on PC's, let's not forget game load times, logins to steam or any multiplayer game, host issues, erratic game closures, and system error...all this happens eveyrday when gaming on PC's and don't try to deny it, i've gone through it dozens of times on the highest end PC's.seanmcloughlin

Load times on PC are exponentially faster than console games. Sure logging into steam is another barrier but it literally takes seconds to do. Then the game starts super fast. You can also disable intro logos or skip them more on PC than consoles. When all is said and done you're in the game running around WAY faster than on a console. 

You do get random crashes on some games but if it happened "everyday" to you then that's something wrong with the system you played on. Not the game or the platform as a whole. Last time a game crashed on me completely was months ago. Where as on my PS3 it happened yesterday playing Demon's Souls. 

Here is Rage loading from my other PC's Mechanical HDD.....

Rage uses many techniques that will be detrimental to load times, let's just see..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3URIYkTm0

When the race finishes, the loading screen appears.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

wake PC from sleep, click icon. done

seanmcloughlin

PC is always on uploading and downloading so just click icon for me haha

Also SSDs make booting up your system take seconds

yep, so it's always patched. or I can remote access my PC from anywhere, like work and start a download, and it's ready when I get home

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

That's the thing, people see shiny things and go off the deep end. They don't notice stuff like this because they usually haven't had it before. Consoles don't have FOV options, they usually run games at 30 fps anyway and they were sub HD before. Keeping 30 fps with an FOV of 45 or whatever doesn't mean much because it's what consoles are used to. But shiny new graphics grab attention more

seanmcloughlin

Yeah I remember when I got a PS3 again and played TLoU the game started to chug and slowdown a bit and I was gonna go into options and change settings.The PS3 was getting hot too and I wanted to adjust fans but couldn't as a habit of playing on PC for so long lol

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]It's one of the reasons I stopped using my 360 and PS3, I simply cannot stand playing most games especially FPS' with anything less than a 90 degree FOV angle. It's unplayable as far as I'm concerned. another thing that kills the experience for me is a shitty framerate. At least on a PC you can adjust the setting until you hit a sweet spot for your hardware (usually). You are pretty much stuck with what they give you on a console.

Slimmin360

Yeah I remember when I got a PS3 again and played TLoU the game started to chug and slowdown a bit and I was gonna go into options and change settings.The PS3 was getting hot too and I wanted to adjust fans but couldn't as a habit of playing on PC for so long lol

that no one in the public has any experience with

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

wake PC from sleep, click icon. done

lostrib

Game load times are faster on PC, especially those on SSD. Steam auto logins, same with most multiplayer games.  Most system errors on my PC are caused by myself, and system errors are not exclusive to PC (RROD, YLOD, disc read error, etc).

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] LOL Yeah right, if it was that easy, i would be gaming on PC's, let's not forget game load times, logins to steam or any multiplayer game, host issues, erratic game closures, and system error...all this happens eveyrday when gaming on PC's and don't try to deny it, i've gone through it dozens of times on the highest end PC's.Slimmin360

Game load times are faster on PC, especially those on SSD. Steam auto logins, same with most multiplayer games.  Most system errors on my PC are caused by myself, and system errors are not exclusive to PC (RROD, YLOD, disc read error, etc).

and now we have truly jumped the shark.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

wake PC from sleep, click icon. done

lostrib

PC is always on uploading and downloading so just click icon for me haha

Also SSDs make booting up your system take seconds

yep, so it's always patched. or I can remote access my PC from anywhere, like work and start a download, and it's ready when I get home