DF: Hands-On With Halo 5: Guardians: Tech Analysis/Frame-Rate Test - Blistering 60fps where 1080p is a rarity

Pictures and videos matter to the average consumer. If you make a game that is noticeably worse quality graphic wise than your last game through screenshots and videos, the consumers will care.

Why does this game looks and feels like a launch title?

1334x1080?? I guess whatever gives you an excuse to put it in writing "we achieved 1080p with Xbox One" when really the pixel count is barely a hair more then 900p. But instead of an adequate pixel-to-pixel ratio, the vertical lines are now as fast as 720p. And that is very ugly.

@imt558: I have a problem with someone who trusts an Internet forum as a legitimate news source, dipshit.

@tormentos 's hero CBOAT, the "industry insider", turned out to be nothing more than a NeoGAF moderator. Trusting him was akin to treating what a gamespot moderator says as "inside information" ( no offense meant to the mods here).

@ReadingRainbow4: What a disgusting lie. Bloodborne has the worst frame rate issues of any next gen game, having deep dips into even the teens. The game is fast-paced and yet its frame rate is a disaster. No excuses for From Software. They developed a game for a game console 16x times more powerful than the last, and they still can't get a decent frame rate. It's a travesty.

@FoxbatAlpha: At one time....that would have meant something.

Graphics aside....that visor look where the edges of the view is blocked would get on my fucking last nerve.

What an awful idea that was.

probably about what was expected since they wanted to keep 60fps

That visor HUD is obnoxious

I haven't heard of bloodborne going into the teens, but the worst framerate title goes to Dead Rising 3 which went between 9-10 fps in some parts and ran at 720p.

The positives of this game are great. Allow me to be negative for something that perhaps makes sense I couldn't help my self. Given what dx12 brings to the table mostly is making cpus more efficient and removing bottleneck. The problem with some games like this one perhaps and Xbox one in particular is. If the shading load is too much its too much dx12 cant help gpu sacrifices. In a way this game seems to highlight mostly some of that. Given what some of the devs are saying benefits of dx12 will help ps4 based how ps4 api works. if this is true in a multi platform development. Slightly weaker cpu escaping its bottleneck to just deliver enough to hit the target leaving gpus to really show their differences could result in a gap increase then closing. There could be allot of wtf I thought dx12 was suppose to close the gap moments.

I'd have posted some pictures off Halo 5 but uploading them to OneDrive is still blocked. The image clarity is not a problem. Some missions were at least half of the time at 1080p and the rest of that at a bit more than 900p to 1080p w/o antialiasing. I've noticed drops below that too, but they were never prevalent for prolonged periods of time.

Some sacrifices with individual assets or effects can undermine its otherwise stellar presentation. But let's not exaggerate. The game will keep you so busy you won't have much time for such ponderings. Whereas some areas might be scaled down (graphical aspects, I mean), at least character models / faces aren't and they really represent a substantial leap.

LOL! Of course, both of you are dumbass Xboners. And you spew shit without any research ( as usual ). You probably didn't saw the videos. Here are three of them. Yeah! Game dips quite frequently in SP campaign. Just shut up both of ya.

That's one ugly pile of subHD poo fest alright, damn son Halo 5 looks ugly. The price they paid for that 60fps is pretty much like cutting a log with a kitchen knife, you just end up with all kinds of screwed up and hurt.

LOL! Dumb idiot! CBOAT was never a moderator there. Also, Stinkles was there yesterday in DF thread. Just shut up, dude!

Lems are still just as tender as they ever were.

I think its cool. makes you feel like your character is actually wearing a helmet.

I can't believe we are still at the point where 1080p 60fps is surprising.

@lostrib: I didnt realize they were scraping for frames THAT bad by putting in "custom shaped black bars" or "visor hud"

Fk, thats pathetic.

I see cows have lost their shit. Predictable.

Easy guys, save some energy for when Rise of the Tomb Raider releases just a couple weeks after.

Lol how to run 60fps on Xbox. First lower all reflections (Forza) and animations (halo 5) to 30fps. Add 2D water droplets and cardboard crowd pedestrians (Forza). Run resolution is weird sub-HD dynamic scaling 831p or whatever but hide 1080p in there to render while in the menu screen to save some face

That's no where near a smooth 30fps!! Look at the frame time graph, the frame frame are delivered all over the place meaning it does not feel smooth at all.

At first I thought it was just loading that causes it but it does it through nearly every area.

So your video just proved how un-smooth the frame rate actually is.

for fps genre 60 fps is a must

kudos to 343 for achieving it.

looks pretty ordinary, as expected. The hud is bad. The popin is pretty noticeable.

@morf-muziks: I challenge you to give me a list of sim games that make forza look bad...

Proof or gtfo

@nyadc: I don't want sub-1080p games so I will take Bloodborne as is in this hypothetical scenario where it is one or the other. I don't think Bloodborne looks good enough that the graphics are holding the framerate down though. There are better looking, bigger games on PS4 that run better. From Software just are not great on the technical side. They still make great games though.

They can when the game is on xbox one and is exclusive,much like last gen they could see the difference in GTA4 from 720p to 640p but this gen can't see it from 720p to 1080p some how..lol

Hahahaaha what an epic meltdown from B4X...lol

Not 60FPS that is for sure Halo has never being 60FPS,in fact most run under 30 and some how you people love them,i played Halo from CE to Reach and didn't care about 60FPS,Halo CE and 2 were very good looking games,Halo 3 looked like shit,and Halo Reach looked a little better,many had drops into the mid 20's,didn't bother lemms.

Cows hatin' on a Xbox One exclusive again, the desperation...

Cboat was a leaker from the days of GTA on PS2,in his last fail predictions he was feed false information in order to be catch MS was on to him for his leaks.

Also is funny that you say that shit when you ride his nuts consistently miss quoting what he say about 1080p and the xbox one.

The game drops as low as 1152x810p which basically is 720p,the worse thing about this kind of dynamic resoltion is that you will notice it quite fast because it blurs the image on the fly,worse texture filtering is poor which make matters even worse.

This game sacrifices to much to falsely claim that it is 1080p.

60fps but in heavy moments it is like you dropped your glasses and all is blurry mess?:P

Halo, the franchise has been causing severe Xbox anti fan butthurt insecurity since 2001 and there's still another 50 or so years of the franchise to come.

Like the Halo series, I bet the ointment sales are going through the roof. lol :P

lol @ cows who have no games

I'm getting more pumped for this game by the minute.

@tormentos don't be an idiot. If you could name any fps game on ps3 or Xbox 360 that ran at solid 60fps it would not be many. They didn't do cos they would have to sacrifice to much.

Halo has been screaming out to run at 60fps and sacrifices have to be made. They have done a good job and overall the graphics, gameplay music, story and multiplayer will make this game one of the best.

Just hope I can finish Halo MCC before it gets released.

How the fu** do you even know that..? Because your TV say 1080p.?

The game almost never is 1080p is mostly 1334x1080p,and has drops as low as 720p basically.

Yeah lets ignore the pop in with shadows, poor texture filtering,half frames animations,and other problems and pretend is all peaches and cream,if you only had this kind of positive attitude toward PS4 games that ACU or The witcher which use to have problems and you have no problem slamming.

Visually.?

Project Cars,Drive Club quite easy and the 2 have dynamic effects unlike Forza baked crap.

Dude no one is hating is a tech analysis when it was ACU you were there to flame the PS4,so drop it if you can't handle people talking badly about a game you love why even come into the thrad.lol

About 110 more than the xbox one and higher rated to..lol

Haha, so true. They are all just searching for the mistakes 343i might have made, in their quest for justification of their PS4 purchase

I'd take 60fps and scaled resolution any day over dips in frame rate and 1080p.

@tdkmillsy:

First of all it doesn't have to be 60,Halo asn't even 30FPS lock it dropped constantly to 28 26 24,and the visuals were not even close to games like Killzone 2 which were 720p unlike Halo in most of its chapters on 360.

Is about the fact that it never was 60 and now people act as if Halo 60FPS is the holy grail.

All FPS that don't run at 60 have being screaming for it,Halo never was and i don't think they did a good job with the graphics, no one but lemmings feel that way.

Where you in the ACU thread flaming the PS4? No so why are you in here flaming Halo 5?

110 more, proof or gtfa

Yeah lets ignore the pop in with shadows, poor texture filtering,half frames animations,and other problems and pretend is all peaches and cream,if you only had this kind of positive attitude toward PS4 games that ACU or The witcher which use to have problems and you have no problem slamming.

Lets ignore anything good about the game and focus on the bad. The video says a ton of good stuff and a bit of negatives. Yet you pick out the negatives.

@Zero_epyon: But Bloodborne is definitely much more consistently worse on all front. Even when the game is locked at 30fps, From Software's oddball frame pacing makes the game a sideshow despite being technically 30fps. Dead Rising 3 deserves second place.

The mocking went over your head, apparently...

Google it, dumbass.

Good gameplay is good gameplay. Frames per sec only enhances it , at the end off the day the word lag exists , and random interruptions while playing still occur. You guys make 60 fps seem like it automatically makes the gameplay super amazing. I know you guys need gossip material tho so i guess... , cant wait to play halo at friends house btw. Haven't played one since 3

@ReadingRainbow4: I remember that as well. The animation in the e3 trailer looked whack.

Quote - Doesn't have to be 60fps

BUT

Qoute - All FPS that don't run at 60 have being screaming for it.

Halo isn't a FPS then?

Your entitled to you opinion on the graphics as they are always subjective. They are not the be all of a game, especially when it comes to FPS.

Why do you post such drivel.

PS4 will not have this game.

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Lems are still just as tender as they ever were.

And delicious too.

Lemming logic at its worst.

i stated "sim" game.. so driveclub is included now? oh so project cars makes forza look baked? lol

i also made a comparison between forza and f1 2015 too.

so forza looks baked now? let us also completely ignore that some of the videos are recorded from PS4 and PC... i agree that while project cars looks better in the rain, forza looks better hands-down in interior view, day, and night racing.

@shrek: No it's not. It sticks to 30 for most of the game. Where can I see these consistent drops to 20 or below?

@flyincloud1116: care to explain ? I never own a box in my life. Hate there over theme swag lol halo is ok so is gears. Read my post history and then call me a lem lol. Btw wuddnt a lem say frames per sec ? How fast did you read my post lol