DF: Hands-On With Halo 5: Guardians: Tech Analysis/Frame-Rate Test - Blistering 60fps where 1080p is a rarity

Not you, but that is how the Lemmings think.

Boy, now you proved that you are really dumb. CBOAT was never a moderator on GAF! Never! The only source who said that CBOAT is a moderator on GAF came from that russian idiot MisterxMedia ( i'm glad that Xbox community has that idiot ). Just google it, dumbass! You will find from where came that REAL source. I presume that you are his follower ( no wonder why you trying to push "DX12 will narrow the gap" shit ).

Btw. you should read this : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=759779

Did you read the previous posts? Members said ( obviously who ) that Bloodborne has framedrops frequently into 20's in SP campaign, which isn't true. It has framepacing issues. Framepacing issues and framedrops ARE NOT THE SAME thing. If some game has problems with frames, so, better to have framepacing issues than framedrops.

@HalcyonScarlet:

Is not just scale resolution,we are talking here about poor texture filtering,pop in average raphics and blur image the game does drastic drops on the fly leading to blur image quality which is noticiable.

@tdkmillsy

ACU doesn't look better on xbox one,it ran better because the game was screw up and i was there.

And the list of games has being posted here like 100 times,listwars is down which is the site that has them,and yeah like more than 100 games and the PS4 keep gatting more games each year than the xbox one,including this year.

Oh this is a tech analysis thread you can discuss quality on the official thread.

The video is sugar coding the problems much like DF always does when a problem is found on xbox one.

@flyincloud1116: i see , my last post was so incomplete lol , glad you understood tho. Halo is just a game i wuddnt mine playing. Wud just never own. And i was saying 60 frames is a good thing but it can never be the sole reason gameplay is good.

@Livecommander:

Lemming say that 60fps means MS chose great gameplay over resolution. The game could still suck lemming balls, if they had any.

Cows still talking about this XB1 exclusive that they will not buy and play? Kinda sad actually. Hopefully in 2016 you guys can talk about your games again.

Lol flyingcows and turdmentos in damage control mode. Only 5 more days!

Lemming are to hypocrite this are the same posters who could not get Uncharted out of their mouth,The order,or Killzone..lol

You stupid ass. Just google it!

Jesus, for someone who gets on his knees for the posters in there, you sure don't know a lot of info about NeoGaf. His whole persona was all bullshit to make the guy who owns the site (Tyler somebody) money.

You really think Lemmings care about The Order or Killzone? HA HA HA!!!! What's next, you are going to talk about how last gen Lems were jealous of Lair and Haze?

WOW. Epic cow failure. Although, I don't expect any more from the biggest cow fanboy in SW.

You dumbass! Click on EVERY link and you will that Misterxmedia is the source. Just shut up and stay stupid!

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/industrie-insider-cboat-is-an-neogaf-moderator.453732851/

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3221081

https://twitter.com/godfree/status/428240691991306240

etc.

Well I played Killzone and The Order ( beat em both ) mediocre but yes I finished them, so I can talk about them if I wanted to ( rarely do ) and I rarely talk about UC4, I am actually looking forward to trying the game out since I have finished all the UC's before it. But you must admit cows get all weird around Halo time.

rut roh,,trouble in Halo land????

WTF are you talking about?

I don't know who MisterXMedia is, I only saw one source that said it was him.

I notice how no one else is defending NeoGAF like you are. Interesting. Maybe they know what I know - it's a forum, the same as GameSpot. Someone on GS could claim to be an "industry insider" and do the same thing.

@imt558 said:

@StormyJoe said:

You stupid ass. Just google it!

Jesus, for someone who gets on his knees for the posters in there, you sure don't know a lot of info about NeoGaf. His whole persona was all bullshit to make the guy who owns the site (Tyler somebody) money.

You dumbass! Click on EVERY link and you will that Misterxmedia is the source. Just shut up and stay stupid!

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/industrie-insider-cboat-is-an-neogaf-moderator.453732851/

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3221081

https://twitter.com/godfree/status/428240691991306240

etc.

If it didn't look like a GameCube game it would be one thing but borderline sub HD on a game this fugly is an embarrassment even if it was running at 300 fps.

@Zero_epyon: It happens in every part of the game and especially during multiplayer where teens are very common place. just Google it. The whole internet knows about the frame rate issues. The game's frame rate issues are even worse than their previous games.

LOL! Bucause you linked some info and i said that isn't true, your conclusion is that i defending NeoGAF. LOL! Nice one! When some infos are false, they're false. Period!

Here's what bothers me about this generation of gaming and the resolution gate. Even the professionals cannot tell the resolution of the game without pausing and pixel counting. What's the point of targeting 1080p above all else if nobody can even see the damn difference.

Nothing in the game is even close to blight town levels.

Please try again.

I know it doesn't stick to 30 but you made it seem like it was in the lower 20's and teens consistently. That's not true.

@ReadingRainbow4: http://bfy.tw/2Q0H

So no actual proof of anything then.

Once again, do better. inb4 links to articles from 7 months ago when the game has since been patched.

@ReadingRainbow4: lmao i won't argue with someone in outright denial. The rest of the world knows. Who would care about you plugging your ears.

You are the one who is defending a forum site as a legitimate news source, not I.

Just like everyone thought that Aquamarine guy was some "NPD insider", when he just turned out to be a guy who worked at JP Morgan and had access to the NPD press releases.

It's on you to provide the burden of proof, not me.

Now **** off.

Watch it! Cows think that 180p difference is bigger than Atari 2600 games vs PS3... they may attack you!

If you actually read any of the articles...

Bloodborne has frame pacing issues, not dropping issues. The frame pacing issue makes it appear as if the frames are dropping, but they aren't always. I've yet to see an article claim or demonstrate Bloodborne going into the teens and lower 20's consistently like you claim. Why is it easy for you to to let me google that for you but difficult to cite your source?

I'm not defendig GAF, but you literaly gave false info about GAF recently and you thought it was true without do any research.

LOL! Everybody knew that Aquamarine had insight in NPD data ( creamsugar also )! Everybody and that was no secret. Real indetity was a secret because NPD data are not allowed for public and penalties can be rough. Btw. she is not a guy.

@StormyJoe: sucks to be cows then cause if anything I am in camp Sony. I just value gameplay over all else. To be quite frank this generation has sucked. I play my PS3 more often than my ps4. Though I don't play games much at all anymore because they're really just not fun. It's all glitz and glamour these days. There's nothing just fun to play.

Wtf is this thread

Lol at the "it looks like a Game Cube game" comment

Aren't their youtube video's that clearly show the problems with Bloodborne? Just go for Bloodborne framerate issues, and you'll find some. Still a great game though, I guess, never played it :D

Right those are frame pacing issues. not frame rate drop issues.

This is indeed the correct answer. I always prefer frame-rates over resolutions myself and Gameplay is also a top priority.

@Zero_epyon: What the hell is frame rate pacing?

It could be 60fps and still be awful gameplay, but we shall see.

irregular frames.. essentially instead of getting exactly one frame per millisecond (lets assume at 100fps) you're getting them at 0.8-0.9 to 1.2-1.5 etc.

Ok, thanks for the reply. If you don't mind, how is that different from drops in framerate? Seems pacing can contribute to drops or am I wrong?

Here's the thing, bloodborne doesn't have a smooth 30 throughout, I never even disputed that.

My issue is with this guy saying the game is in the teens, making it sound like the majority of the game is in it's 20's. which simply isn't true.

no, it is just the timing of the frames. for example, the total frames would be 100 per second, but the timing of those frames would be different. this results in micro stuttering, a problem in multi GPU setups.

In my point of view, all PS4/Xbox One games should have been 900p/60fps for that matter and developers have been so addicted to 1080p sacrificing 60fps since these current-gen consoles are having a hard time maintaining 60fps.

Yeah but everything I have read so far seems positive so let's just hope it lives to that expectations.

Gotcha, thanks bud.

With pacing issue you can have a constant rate of 30 FPS but every other frame or so is a duplicate. So it looks like it's stuttering and dropping because the image appears to last longer on the screen. It can look pretty bad if frame rates drop and they're duplicated.

cheers!

And where is CBOAT now?

Yes, you have been defending NeoGAF and putting it up as a legit source. How about all your comments about me taking my software development knowledge over there?

You think it's some special black-ops gaming news site. It's a f**king forum, filled with fanboys (mostly Sony fanboys).

Frametimes do not contribute directly in changes of the framerate. But they have a similar or even higher visual effect than framerate since they cause what is usually called stuttering. So even if you have 60+ fps you can still lack fluidity because of bad frametimes.

Read to what i was replying and you will get it.

Pathetic specially since it is not a 180p difference,lets forget that 1080p is compose of vertical lines as well as horizontal.

1920x1080 which is more than 2 million pixels.

1600x900 is not just a 180p difference we are talking about more than 600,000 pixels difference,just so you can gap is you take 633,600 pixels from a 720p resolution you end with lower than SD definition which is 720x480.

So go elsewhere to pretend that there is no difference between 900p and 1080p,specially you who called PS3 multiplatforms shody because of their lower resolution vs the xbox 360 and lower frames.

Don't care about 60fps....if it means they had to make the game look like Halo 4 then I would have been preferred 30 fps with better graphics.