DF: Xbox One X at Gamescom - Enhanced Games Previewed!

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#1 Zero_epyon
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  • Quantum Break not rendering 4K and the only non native 4K shown
  • Gears 4 is Native 4K and one of the more impressive games 30FPS Looks like highest PC settings (unconfirmed)
  • Titanfall 2 looks like the PC version while using a dynamic scaling. A step up from the PS4 Pro
  • Killer Instinct Native 4K. Video elements are still the original versions from the game.
  • F1 2017 was native 4K and had good AA but framerate was suffering. (We know it won't be native 4k when released though)
  • Path of Exile 4K/60
  • World of Tanks native 4K/30
  • Running what looks like retail systems and not dev kits

Not bad so far!

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Sounds good! have fun Lems lol For myself I'll wait till next gen to get into 4K when there will be more native 4K for sure!

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#3 Howmakewood
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I want to see path of exile hold 60fps, there's no pc known to man that can achieve that

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#4 Antwan3K
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@Zero_epyon: beat me by 10 minutes it seems.. I checked to see if there was a thread on the subject but you may have posted yours while I was typing mine up

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#5  Edited By Antwan3K
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I'll just bring over my post to this thread:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-hands-on-with-xbox-one-x-at-gamescom-2017

Taken from the article:

  • All software was indeed running on Xbox One X hardware
  • Gears of War 4 was running at native 4K with high-end texture assets previously exclusive to the PC version of the game. Texture filtering gets a big upgrade over the standard console too, with none of the improvements having any kind of noticeable hit to performance.
  • Quantum Break was one of the few titles not shown running at native 4K, instead using the same upscaling technique as the base model. A guess is that the base resolution is possibly closer to 1080p before the smart upscaling kicks in. Regardless, the increase in clarity over the Xbox One title again represents a night and day difference.
  • Killer Instinct is native 4K/60fps with no performance drops. The only blemish to the look of the title comes from its video assets, which appear unchanged from the original.
  • Path of Exile is native 4K/60fps delivering a full frame-rate, ultra-HD experience
  • F1 2017 is operating at native 4K. Image quality on this one is off the charts - if it's not a match for the top-end PC experience, it's very close. However, while the title targets 60fps, its current performance level often falls somewhat short, with dropped frames and noticeable screen-tear.
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider is native 4K
  • Titanfall 2 presents a mid-way point between the PlayStation 4 Pro version and the top-end PC experience. You get what looks like the Sony console's visual set, paired with the extra clarity found running the PC version at a higher resolution [uses dynamic 4K]. In effect, all that's missing from the top-tier Titanfall 2 presentation is ambient occlusion and some shadow effects. The series' signature 60fps gameplay remains fully intact.
  • DF will be looking at Shadow of War, Assassin's Creed Origins and Halo Wars 2 in more depth in standalone features, as they do have access to direct feed assets but they can still share the following initial observations:
  • It seems that there are actually two AC Origins builds at Gamescom. The Microsoft booth seems to be running an older version of the code that has trouble resolving high resolution textures in the middle and far distance while the Ubisoft booth we visited to capture is looking a lot more solid - LODs still aren't at the same level as the E3 trailer, but it's significantly closer. Developers on-site told us that they're aiming for resolution first and aim to bring up LODs to the required spec closer to release.
  • Shadow of War is native 4K, with performance ticking over nicely at the target 30fps - the only issues cropping up in really packed encounters with hundreds of entities in play
  • Halo Wars 2 is native 4K
  • World of Tanks is native 4K
  • DF was told by Monolith that working with the Xbox One X is basically the same as developing for the base model, albeit with a far higher level of processing power to work with. The simplicity of development likely explains the consistency in results they saw across titles regardless of the source material. The scaling here is essentially in line with Microsoft's messaging, not to mention its internal early hardware benchmarks.
  • DF feels that with every new PlayStation 4 Pro game that comes along, there's a sense of the unknown about what enhancements are actually going to manifest, and the extent to which an investment in a 4K screen actually pays off. By contrast their impression of the Xbox One X looks far more clear cut, saying that the Xbox One X is the console for your 4K screen, and anything else in addition to that (like Tomb Raider's multiple rendering modes) is a bonus
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#6 hrt_rulz01
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Sounding promising. Really curious to see how Witcher 3 looks/runs on it... can't wait!

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#7 Alucard_Prime
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Won't be sleeping much tonight, Path of Exile playthrough #1 to begin, #2 will be when XOneX launches. Glad to see the strong results overall

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#8 Phazevariance
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Nice. I would get an X1X except I haven't had the need to turn on my Xbone in months.

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#9 Zero_epyon
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@Antwan3K said:

@Zero_epyon: beat me by 10 minutes it seems.. I checked to see if there was a thread on the subject but you may have posted yours while I was typing mine up

I figured I'd have to be quick lol

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#10 Antwan3K
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Antwan3K said:

@Zero_epyon: beat me by 10 minutes it seems.. I checked to see if there was a thread on the subject but you may have posted yours while I was typing mine up

I figured I'd have to be quick lol

Lol indeed.. I rarely start threads and it figures that I get scooped on the one thread I decided to create.. I guess there was a separate article that I ended up seeing that accompanies the video (but the video you posted wasn't in the article for some strange reason so thanks for putting that up)..

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#11 Zero_epyon
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@Antwan3K said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@Antwan3K said:

@Zero_epyon: beat me by 10 minutes it seems.. I checked to see if there was a thread on the subject but you may have posted yours while I was typing mine up

I figured I'd have to be quick lol

Lol indeed.. I rarely start threads and it figures that I get scooped on the one thread I decided to create.. I guess there was a separate article that I ended up seeing that accompanies the video (but the video you posted wasn't in the article for some strange reason so thanks for putting that up)..

No worries. They do that sometimes and usually add the video later.

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#12 Ryu_Silveira
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Strange, I thought the Xbox One X had no native 4K games? Or at least 1 which was Forza Motorsports 7 which was stated by @pinkanimal...lmao

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#13 FLOPPAGE_50
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What a monster of a console.

Can't freaking wait.

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#14 Primorandomguy
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See cows, it's not just about hitting native 4K. it's about playing the best multiplats on consoles, and on that, X1X destroys the PS4 Pro. Get that through your heads.

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#15 cainetao11
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Sounding promising. Really curious to see how Witcher 3 looks/runs on it... can't wait!

Yeah I was hoping that would be in this comparison. Screw you Microsoft! I'm done with them!! JAPANIMEEEEEEE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

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@primorandomguy said:

See cows, it's not just about hitting native 4K. it's about playing the best multiplats on consoles, and on that, X1X destroys the PS4 Pro. Get that through your heads.

I think Cows will be just fine, especially with all of the great exclusive games they have this year..................Native 4K or not.

Id much rather have more games at 1080p/1440p checkerboard than far less and native 4K

And i say that having owned an Xbox One since launch.

The first year and a half were great, after that theyve had very little.

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#17 tormentos
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  • World of Tanks native 4K/30...

lol

Loading Video...

1070GTX 4k max settings over 100FPS...lol

BUt but but Forza wet track...lol

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@tormentos said:
  • World of Tanks native 4K/30...

lol

Loading Video...

1070GTX 4k max settings over 100FPS...lol

BUt but but Forza wet track...lol

Butthurt again, Tomato. LOL

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#19 mowgly1
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True 4k, guys! QB 1440P

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#20 mowgly1
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@Antwan3K:

F1 is checkerboard 4k on Xbonex.

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#21 DaVillain  Moderator
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That is pretty cool. Not planning on getting X1X but following the tech is interesting enough and gotta give credit to MS on the hardware but they still need more new IP exclusive games.

As always, thanks for posting this Zero, always enjoying DigitalFoundry despite I'm part of there Subs.

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#22 tormentos
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@xhawk27 said:

Butthurt again, Tomato. LOL

Not even close i am just making fun of the usual suspect that love the this don't = that arguments...lol

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#23 eNT1TY
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Wonder what the state of path of exile controller play is like on pc, will pick up the One X version just for that. Guessing this version wont share servers with PC if skill management will be too different.

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#24 sirk1264
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Looks great so far. Looks like this will be the best hardware Microsoft has made since the original Xbox. Glad to see they are back in the fight. Now just need some true exclusives (not available on PC) and I'm sold on it. Right now have no need for it. Have fun Xbox fans.

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@xhawk27 said:
@tormentos said:
  • World of Tanks native 4K/30...

lol

Loading Video...

1070GTX 4k max settings over 100FPS...lol

BUt but but Forza wet track...lol

Butthurt again, Tomato. LOL

LMAO "Stop hiding on PC" LMAO

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#27  Edited By QuadKnight
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lol "True 4K" with 1440p Checkerboard.

? I thought Wrongvalencia said the DynamicBone X was gonna run Quantum Flop at Native 4K, what happened?

WTF, World of Tanks at 30fps? Wasn't this thing supposed to be a powerhouse? At least give the people less resolution with 60fps. My guess is that the POS CPU is holding them back from even doing it at 1080p/30fps. ? @ paying $500 for 30fps in 2017.

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@tormentos said:
  • World of Tanks native 4K/30...

lol

1070GTX 4k max settings over 100FPS...lol

BUt but but Forza wet track...lol

Loading Video...

GTX 1070 dipping bellow 60 fps at 4K. Graphics settings mostly high.

GTX 1070 dipping bellow 60 fps at 4K with F1 2016

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#30  Edited By ronvalencia
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@mowgly1 said:

@Antwan3K:

F1 is checkerboard 4k on Xbonex.

Gamecom version is currently 4K native with 60 fps target and it's dipping below 60 fps. 4K CB 60 fps bias could be another game mode for F1.

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#31  Edited By ronvalencia
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@quadknight said:

lol "True 4K" with 1440p Checkerboard.

? I thought Wrongvalencia said the DynamicBone X was gonna run Quantum Flop at Native 4K, what happened?

WTF, World of Tanks at 30fps? Wasn't this thug supposed to be a powerhouse? At least give the people less resolution with 60fps. My guess is that the POS CPU is holding them back from even doing it at 1080p/30fps. ? @ paying $500 for 30fps in 2017.

I shown QB at 4K with medium settings and any higher graphics settings, the resolution needs to drop.

WOT X1X = 4K native

WOT POS4 Pro(Pro being shit) = 1800p CB.

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#32  Edited By QuadKnight
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@ronvalencia: GTFO Wrongvalencia. You said it was gonna be Native 4K and the game is 1440p CB. You are wrong as always. I can't even tell who is worse at predictions, you or Pachter. ? You're a complete joke around here. LOL @ your shitty damage control.

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#33  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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*shows native 4k games*

- in comes the cow butthurt over QB.. yet ignores everything else, lmao

the salt is real

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#34 Zero_epyon
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@ronvalencia said:
@quadknight said:

lol "True 4K" with 1440p Checkerboard.

? I thought Wrongvalencia said the DynamicBone X was gonna run Quantum Flop at Native 4K, what happened?

WTF, World of Tanks at 30fps? Wasn't this thug supposed to be a powerhouse? At least give the people less resolution with 60fps. My guess is that the POS CPU is holding them back from even doing it at 1080p/30fps. ? @ paying $500 for 30fps in 2017.

I shown QB at 4K with medium settings and any higher graphics settings, the resolution needs to drop.

WOT X1X = 4K native

WOT POS4 Pro(Pro being shit) = 1800p CB.

Xbox One X =/= GTX 1070.

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#35  Edited By RyviusARC
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@mowgly1 said:

True 4k, guys! QB 1440P

More like QB 1080p.

But even my 1080ti struggles to run QB at 4k native with max settings. Partially beause the game does not want to fully utilize my GPU.

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#36  Edited By tormentos
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@ronvalencia said:

GTX 1070 dipping bellow 60 fps at 4K. Graphics settings mostly high.

GTX 1070 dipping bellow 60 fps at 4K with F1 2016

And?

The XBO X version of world of tanks runs at 30FPS the PC version on a 1070 runs at 100 3 times+ more that is what a 200%+ gap in performance.?

Loading Video...

Hahahaahahaaa 1050ti 4k 30+ FPS....hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

That shitty CPU...

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#37 tormentos
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@RyviusARC said:
@mowgly1 said:

True 4k, guys! QB 1440P

More like QB 1080p.

But even my 1080ti struggles to run QB at 4k native with max settings. Partially beause the game does not want to fully utilize my GPU.

Because it is a fu** up game on PC,in fact the windows 7 DX11 steam version was faster than the DX12 windows 10 version that fu** the game was.

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#38 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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So lots of checkerboard going on. Gotta admit, though, this makes me hungry for next gen consoles.

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#39  Edited By mowgly1
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@ronvalencia:

Quote :

Gamecom version is currently 4K native with 60 fps target

......

"target" So, it is 4k checkerboard.

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#40 hrt_rulz01
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@cainetao11: Lol.

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#41 Antwan3K
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@mowgly1: Digital Foundry said that F1 2017 is running at native 4K on Xbox One X and either matches or comes to close to matching a top-end PC experience.. If you have a problem with that, take it up with them..

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#42 Ryu_Silveira
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@FLOPPAGE_50: Lmao! My thoughts exactly, everyone is ignoring Gears of War, Shadow of War, Killer Instinct, etc. Cows just focus on Quantum Break and assume all games are checkerboard...lmfao. Delusional indeed...

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#43  Edited By EndofAugust
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Inserted for relevance, this shit is rather impressive.

@mowgly1 said:

So, according to DF, QB is 1440p checkerboard on XboneX

True 4k

It's not using checkerboarding, it's temporal reconstruction, also...

"The buffers used to construct the image are always 2/3rds of the set resolution, i.e. in 2560x1440 they would be 1706x960." -Remedy

So that means if the game is turning in a 4K pixel count it is rendering at roughly 3136x1764 which is 5,529,600 pixels and also exactly 6x 1280x720, which is just shy of 3200x1800 (5,760,000 pixels).

So from what it appears with this system they were able to increase the resolution of Quantum Break by 6x.

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#44 QuadKnight
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? @ Wrongvalencia still claiming XboneX is equal to a 1070 after being proven wrong by DF. What a clown.

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#45  Edited By mowgly1
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@Antwan3K:

Codemasters said otherwise.

https://ar12gaming.com/articles/f1-2017-hands-on

Got a problem?

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#46  Edited By EndofAugust
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@mowgly1 said:

@Antwan3K:

Codemasters said otherwise. Got a problem?

Maybe they changed their mind?

GamesCom is newer than that article, I hope you're aware.

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#47 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Mad credit to Microsoft for the hardware, and I hope everyone who buys this enjoys this greatly!

Now bring me the games, please.

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#48 EndofAugust
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@charizard1605 said:

Mad credit to Microsoft for the hardware, and I hope everyone who buys this enjoys this greatly!

Now bring me the games, please.

Are you gonna buy one? Games will come, from the looks of it this thing should increase the amount of developers approaching the platform so more games seems like an assurance.

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@navyguy21: Bad reading comprehension skills? Unintelligent? That's alright, I'll help you out. I never said anything about the PS4 lacking exclusives, or harping about native 4K. Cows are the ones bashing the X1X because certain titles aren't hitting native 4K, which is stupid in the first place because MS left it up to the developers how to use the power. And they're also undermining how much better the X1X tech is compared to PS4 or PS Pro. They hide behind PC. I'd also rather the devs utilize the power to make 1080p or 1440p 60fps, and guess what? A lot are, some even native 4K/60fps, or checkerboard/dynamic, which I don't care if it is not native 4K or not. And get out if here, MS has been delivering every year except this year. But Cuphead, Forza 7, and PUBG will stop it from being a complete shit year from MS.

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@endofaugust said:
@charizard1605 said:

Mad credit to Microsoft for the hardware, and I hope everyone who buys this enjoys this greatly!

Now bring me the games, please.

Are you gonna buy one? Games will come, from the looks of it this thing should increase the amount of developers approaching the platform so more games seems like an assurance.

I will get an Xbox One eventually, if only for Horizon 3, but when, and which one, really depends on the state of exclusives for me. If Microsoft can push out something like a, say, good Fable 4 on the Xbox One, I'd definitely get one now.