Bad Company 2 >ModernWarfare2.

Bad Company 2 >ModernWarfare2.

ratchet_usa

Going only by the games I have played and not the imaginary guess of their upcoming titles, I will disagree. Not that DICE isn't great. BC2 looks great, but I see no reason to conclude what your concluding. Can't we all just wait?

well, ill see when they are both out. but i liked bad company 1 better than cod2, so there really no reason that bad company 2 shouldnt still be better than cod2.

Congrats you just stated a fact!

Don't no one fall under the pretense that DICE is the savior of all that is true and just in the world just because they took the opportunity to get some free PR. As has been mentioned, acta non verba. They've already decided to leave prone out, again. Those who pre-order will get multiplayer cheats. So the "acta" part is already looking a bit iffy. And where is BF3 already? Battlefield 2 will be almost five years old by the time of BC2's release.

DICE clearly >>>>>> Infinity Ward though.

i agree not because of battlefield but because of mirror's edge

Hmm the dev that made a a crappy game and then a sequel to that game that brought nothing new to the serires

Or

One of the best FPS, and one of the greatest and most innovative games ever.

Hmm

Kinda obvious. For one thing, DICE innovated the fps genre hell of a lot more than IW ever did.

For example, online ranks and progressive unlockable items. Want another one? The 'battlefield' style gameplay which a lot of games have nowadays were made entirely by them.

IW: They didn't innovate anything. In fact the whole 'modern combat' thing came from bf2.

i agree not because of battlefield but because of mirror's edge

da_illest101

At least they tried to do something different, unlike IW. And anyway Mirror's edge wasn't bad by any means and how can one "only good" game over shadow all the greatness that Dice has done.

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Kinda obvious. For one thing, DICE innovated the fps genre hell of a lot more than IW ever did.

For example, online ranks and progressive unlockable items. Want another one? The 'battlefield' style gameplay which a lot of games have nowadays were made entirely by them.

IW: They didn't innovate anything. In fact the whole 'modern combat' thing came from bf2.

821dan128

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL at your statement

which part? or are you talking about the sig?

DICE is better since they actually understand the concept of player created content, dedicated servers and is not being milked to death by Craptivision.

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Kinda obvious. For one thing, DICE innovated the fps genre hell of a lot more than IW ever did.

For example, online ranks and progressive unlockable items. Want another one? The 'battlefield' style gameplay which a lot of games have nowadays were made entirely by them.

IW: They didn't innovate anything. In fact the whole 'modern combat' thing came from bf2.

821dan128

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL at your statement

MODERN WARFARE 2 >>> BAD COMPANY 2

LOL at all u haters you all have no idea and think its cool to be different from the crowd (bit like emo's)

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Kinda obvious. For one thing, DICE innovated the fps genre hell of a lot more than IW ever did.

For example, online ranks and progressive unlockable items. Want another one? The 'battlefield' style gameplay which a lot of games have nowadays were made entirely by them.

IW: They didn't innovate anything. In fact the whole 'modern combat' thing came from bf2.

lm2f

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL at your statement

i'm in the middle of a laughing fit atm. wait.... i need some air

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MODERN WARFARE 2 >>> BAD COMPANY 2

LOL at all u haters you all have no idea and think its cool to be different from the crowd (bit like emo's)

Cait__Sith

please i insist, go on..

[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="821dan128"]

MODERN WARFARE 2 >>> BAD COMPANY 2

LOL at all u haters you all have no idea and think its cool to be different from the crowd (bit like emo's)

please i insist, go on..

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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"] So many things wrong with this. I'd like to explain them to you, but you're not going to care or listen so whats the point.Cait__Sith

please i insist, go on..

hahahha a troll? yes i am pretty big and green. you sumed nothing up so u fail. by saying its much better... HOW?!? and bigger doesn't mean better. by saying its been around for much longer is lik me saying i would prefer to ride a horse to work rather than a car because the species has been around for century's. get with the times!! and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IW. i love how your failed post enlightened me about why my statement is so wrong

[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="821dan128"]

please i insist, go on..

hahahha a troll? yes i am pretty big and green. you sumed nothing up so u fail. by saying its much better... HOW?!? and bigger doesn't mean better. by saying its been around for much longer is lik me saying i would prefer to ride a horse to work rather than a car because the species has been around for century's. get with the times!! and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IW. i love how your failed post enlightened me about why my statement is so wrong

and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IWi

821dan128

[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="821dan128"]

please i insist, go on..

821dan128

hahahha a troll? yes i am pretty big and green. you sumed nothing up so u fail. by saying its much better... HOW?!? and bigger doesn't mean better. by saying its been around for much longer is lik me saying i would prefer to ride a horse to work rather than a car because the species has been around for century's. get with the times!! and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IW. i love how your failed post enlightened me about why my statement is so wrong

[QUOTE="821dan128"]

and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IWi

skrat_01

its how things evolve my friend. its called adapting to a good idea and improving upon it thus making the new product much greater. only the strong survive and thats why the CoD series is dominating and the battlefield series and MoH series have either faded (like neanderthals) or are fadeing (like our ancestors)

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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"] I don't like wasting my time with trolls so I'll sum it up for you. Battlefield series is much bigger and better than Modern Warfare, and has been around MUCH longer. Dice innovates gaming, while Infinity Ward does not. Cait__Sith

hahahha a troll? yes i am pretty big and green. you sumed nothing up so u fail. by saying its much better... HOW?!? and bigger doesn't mean better. by saying its been around for much longer is lik me saying i would prefer to ride a horse to work rather than a car because the species has been around for century's. get with the times!! and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IW. i love how your failed post enlightened me about why my statement is so wrong

LOL is that why i own the original bad company and battlefield 1942? and they both sucked hard compared to call of duty and i completely regret the purchase. i just think you have no arguement to put forward but thats cool cos it would be hard defending such a broken game

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="821dan128"]

and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IWi

821dan128

its how things evolve my friend. its called adapting to a good idea and improving upon it thus making the new product much greater. only the strong survive and thats why the CoD series is dominating and the battlefield series and MoH series have either faded (like neanderthals) or are fadeing (like our ancestors)

The stat tracking remained the same for every game out there since BF2, so nothing was 'improved' in that category. And don't say the perks either because all of us here(well maybe except you) know that if anything it ruined the game due to the introduction of grenade spamming.

But yeah, kinda pointless trying to convince you anyway, you couldn't even say HOW CoD4 evolved the genre.

[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="821dan128"]

hahahha a troll? yes i am pretty big and green. you sumed nothing up so u fail. by saying its much better... HOW?!? and bigger doesn't mean better. by saying its been around for much longer is lik me saying i would prefer to ride a horse to work rather than a car because the species has been around for century's. get with the times!! and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IW. i love how your failed post enlightened me about why my statement is so wrong

LOL is that why i own the original bad company and battlefield 1942? and they both sucked hard compared to call of duty and i completely regret the purchase. i just think you have no arguement to put forward but thats cool cos it would be hard defending such a broken game

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="821dan128"]

and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IWi

821dan128

its how things evolve my friend. its called adapting to a good idea and improving upon it thus making the new product much greater. only the strong survive and thats why the CoD series is dominating and the battlefield series and MoH series have either faded (like neanderthals) or are fadeing (like our ancestors)

*What it does, it does damn well* - despite a lack of innnovation.

Otherwise indeed the MoH IP has faded, Call of Duty is the reason for it - starting with COD1.

The Battlefield IP? Hell no. Doesnt have the mainstream popularity of COD (what shooter other than Halo does?), however titles like BC2, and the popularity of BF2 (still) speak for themselves.

wow surely IW & MW2 are getting way too much hate lately... i loved both COD4 & BF:BC and looking forward to both sequels...

Also there is no need to compare / choose between the 2 since imo the take a different approach and are quite different..

3battlefield bad company 2 willl beat the pants off of MW2, i can't believe how arrrogant IW are, already calling MW2 the 'most anticipated game of the decade' since when? it's certainly not my most anticipated game of the decade,IW overeate there own game, the battlefield series has always been much better, more freedom and vehicles that you can just jump in and drive and nothing beats conquest mode,MW 2 is just a corridoor shooter with pretty graphics, nice particle effects and overblown scripted events.delta3074

it's mine and an expected 11 million+ others peoples most anticipated game

wow surely IW & MW2 are getting way too much hate lately... i loved both COD4 & BF:BC and looking forward to both sequels...

Also there is no need to compare / choose between the 2 since imo the take a different approach and are quite different..

Malta_1980

refer ro my earlier post... they just want to try and be different

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="821dan128"]

and HOW?!? (once again) does DICE innovate more than IWi

821dan128

its how things evolve my friend. its called adapting to a good idea and improving upon it thus making the new product much greater. only the strong survive and thats why the CoD series is dominating and the battlefield series and MoH series have either faded (like neanderthals) or are fadeing (like our ancestors)

despite the troll's laughable failure to try to convince us to think IW>DICE, DICE is still the better company.

MODERN WARFARE 2 >>> BAD COMPANY 2

LOL at all u haters you all have no idea and think its cool to be different from the crowd (bit like emo's)

I agree, and i will be getting bad company 2 instead of MW2 :D I m supporting a true gamers company Solid_Tango

u wouldn't have been saying that when EA was king. its lik this new fad to hate on things that are successful

Each of the Bonuses we've carefully selected represents one of the cornerstones of the Battlefield experience: Teamplay, Vehicles, and Veterans. We handpicked Specializations that enhance the abilities of Veterans and Newcomers alike. Let's explore the gameplay possibilities in the Limited Edition of Battlefield Bad Company 2.

The Vehicle Motion Sensor reveals the position of nearby enemies, allowing you to avoid driving into hidden ambushes. Rolling into a base in a vehicle equipped with the sensor will also report enemy positions on the minimap for nearby teammates! The Improved Vehicle Armor specialization upgrades the protective plating on all vehicles to give your vehicle that extra edge in heavy firefights. Additionally while many vehicle specializations only function for the driver of a vehicle, the Improved Vehicle Armor and Vehicle Motion Sensor specializations will function if they are equipped by any member of the vehicle crew. So even if you don't enjoy flying or driving, hopping into your friend's vehicle will still grant both you and your friend extra protection. Of course you also get to man the secondary guns to dish out your own firepower.

The Supreme Vehicle Firepower specialization greatly expands the types of targets tanks and helicopters can engage effectively. In Main Battle Tanks like the M1A2 and the T90 the Firepower specialization upgrades the vehicle with a coaxial machine gun to improve the MBT's anti-infantry abilities. The driver's position of the Mobile AA vehicle is also upgraded with a hull mounted machine gun to supplement the default 20mm automatic grenade launcher. For Light Tanks like the M3A3 or the BMD3 Supreme Vehicle Firepower allows the driver to fire TOW Guided Antiarmor missiles. Often the deciding factor in armor battles TOWs are also great for punching a hole in buildings before pumping 30mm chain gun rounds inside. Air vehicles are not left out of the mix, the Vehicle Firepower Package upgrades the gunner's position of the AH64 and the Mi28 with the same TOW Guided AntiArmor missile. Combined with the pilot's rockets this package can quickly eliminate enemy armor that threatens your teammates.

Featured both in the original Battlefield 1942 and it's spiritual successor Battlefield 1943 the M1911 Pistol and the M1A1 Submachine Gun are true Battlefield cl@sses. Though not as powerful as the Engineer's modern SMGs and Carbines the M1A1 SMG is unlockable for all 4 cl@sses on the Battlefield. The mobility granted by the M1A1 allows close range run and gun tactics, especially effective for members of a hard-hitting and fast-moving squad. Battlefield Veterans will also appreciate the stopping power of the .45 caliber M1911 Pistol. An American ****c, the M1911 is still favored by special forces units around the world almost 100 years after it's inception. Another sidearm the Tracer Dart Pistol can be equipped as a pistol, allowing all ****s to aid their Engineers in destroying enemy vehicles. When a Tracer Dart is placed on an enemy vehicle friendly RPGs can lock on and track those targets, letting your teammates engage armor safely from cover. It's a great aid to your team even for cl@sses like Assault or Medic who lack antivehicle arms.

We think this combination of Weapons and Specializations will provide all types of Battlefield fans with a worthy Day One Advantage. Whether you're a Tanker or a Pilot, a Teamplayer or a Lone Wolf, Assault, Recon, Engineer or Medic these tools will serve you well on the Battlefield of Bad Company 2.

Alan 'Demize99' Kertz

Gameplay Designer, Battlefield: Bad Company 2

Dice

Why this is going to be awesome!

Bungie > Dice & Infinity Ward IMO MW2 and BC2 are just rehashes tht offer nothing new to the fps genre.. Bungie however is working very hard to give its fans a new experience with a huge engine update and everythingKingBungie

Nah they have been the same old crap as well. Dice is better than both.

[QUOTE="Dice"]

Each of the Bonuses we've carefully selected represents one of the cornerstones of the Battlefield experience: Teamplay, Vehicles, and Veterans. We handpicked Specializations that enhance the abilities of Veterans and Newcomers alike. Let's explore the gameplay possibilities in the Limited Edition of Battlefield Bad Company 2.

The Vehicle Motion Sensor reveals the position of nearby enemies, allowing you to avoid driving into hidden ambushes. Rolling into a base in a vehicle equipped with the sensor will also report enemy positions on the minimap for nearby teammates! The Improved Vehicle Armor specialization upgrades the protective plating on all vehicles to give your vehicle that extra edge in heavy firefights. Additionally while many vehicle specializations only function for the driver of a vehicle, the Improved Vehicle Armor and Vehicle Motion Sensor specializations will function if they are equipped by any member of the vehicle crew. So even if you don't enjoy flying or driving, hopping into your friend's vehicle will still grant both you and your friend extra protection. Of course you also get to man the secondary guns to dish out your own firepower.

The Supreme Vehicle Firepower specialization greatly expands the types of targets tanks and helicopters can engage effectively. In Main Battle Tanks like the M1A2 and the T90 the Firepower specialization upgrades the vehicle with a coaxial machine gun to improve the MBT's anti-infantry abilities. The driver's position of the Mobile AA vehicle is also upgraded with a hull mounted machine gun to supplement the default 20mm automatic grenade launcher. For Light Tanks like the M3A3 or the BMD3 Supreme Vehicle Firepower allows the driver to fire TOW Guided Antiarmor missiles. Often the deciding factor in armor battles TOWs are also great for punching a hole in buildings before pumping 30mm chain gun rounds inside. Air vehicles are not left out of the mix, the Vehicle Firepower Package upgrades the gunner's position of the AH64 and the Mi28 with the same TOW Guided AntiArmor missile. Combined with the pilot's rockets this package can quickly eliminate enemy armor that threatens your teammates.

Featured both in the original Battlefield 1942 and it's spiritual successor Battlefield 1943 the M1911 Pistol and the M1A1 Submachine Gun are true Battlefield cl@sses. Though not as powerful as the Engineer's modern SMGs and Carbines the M1A1 SMG is unlockable for all 4 cl@sses on the Battlefield. The mobility granted by the M1A1 allows close range run and gun tactics, especially effective for members of a hard-hitting and fast-moving squad. Battlefield Veterans will also appreciate the stopping power of the .45 caliber M1911 Pistol. An American ****c, the M1911 is still favored by special forces units around the world almost 100 years after it's inception. Another sidearm the Tracer Dart Pistol can be equipped as a pistol, allowing all ****s to aid their Engineers in destroying enemy vehicles. When a Tracer Dart is placed on an enemy vehicle friendly RPGs can lock on and track those targets, letting your teammates engage armor safely from cover. It's a great aid to your team even for cl@sses like Assault or Medic who lack antivehicle arms.

We think this combination of Weapons and Specializations will provide all types of Battlefield fans with a worthy Day One Advantage. Whether you're a Tanker or a Pilot, a Teamplayer or a Lone Wolf, Assault, Recon, Engineer or Medic these tools will serve you well on the Battlefield of Bad Company 2.

Alan 'Demize99' Kertz

Gameplay Designer, Battlefield: Bad Company 2

mr_poodles123

Why this is going to be awesome!

Thats a lot to add into the limited edition. Its a wee bit unfair to everyone who plays the multiplayer but doesn't have the extra content.

i agree not because of battlefield but because of mirror's edge

da_illest101