Did Microsoft flush away everything they gained this generation?

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] I have a PS4 reserved via Amazon. I still like the idea of the One far more -- which is also reserved. How is, beyond the on-paper superior specs and Naughty Dog, the PS4 better in every way? Price, and no force PS Eye. That's it. ShaineTheNerd

You just named 4 big reasons. Better specs, better first party developers, $100 cheaper and no forced spy cam. What reason does that leave to buy a Xbone unless you can't live without 343s Halo?

Such empty, baseless and assumptive statements. Why don't you just admit that you're an Xbox fanboy or maybe even that you're being paid by MS, you're a new poster aren't you?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Wii U only sold 160k for the past 3 months, meaning that casual gamers are irrelevant.

CallOfDutyRulez

that's it? why so hostile before?

Because you're a cowardly crypto troll who comes in to do nothing but to contribute nothing and start arguments. Then you magically disappear when I challenge you to a ban bet.

1. there's no such thing as a ban bet. mods won't enforce them.

2. you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place. :|

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

that's it? why so hostile before?

CaseyWegner

Because you're a cowardly crypto troll who comes in to do nothing but to contribute nothing and start arguments. Then you magically disappear when I challenge you to a ban bet.

1. there's no such thing as a ban bet. mods won't enforce them.

2. you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place. :|

1. It doesn't matter if there was no such thing as a ban bet. The fact that you didn't have the balls to accept my challenge shows you are a ball-less mangina.

2. So why did you challenge my assertion that Halo 5 was gonna be a flop?

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

There are no articles on June 10th about the xbox ONE selling out, just that Microsoft said it was almost sold-out.

https://www.google.com/search?q=xbox+one+day+1+sold+out+amazon&sa=X&ei=ntD_UeXnL5Ow4AO_8oHoAg&ved=0CB8QpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F10%2F2013%2Ccd_max%3A6%2F10%2F2013&tbm=

StormyJoe

Silly cows. Again, I don't give a crap if there are or if there aren't. I know what I my sister ordered, I know what I saw. People were even talking about it in SW around the same time.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]:lol: Owned!Kaz_Son

Silly cows. Again, I don't give a crap if there are or if there aren't. I know what I my sister ordered, I know what I saw. People were even talking about it in SW around the same time.

HA HA HA!!!

I have not been owned, because I know what I saw. I did not have a halucination or dream it. Amazon did make the "Day 1" edition unavailable right after E3 (replacing it with the "standard edition"), then made it available again a few days later. The fact that you you don't seem to believe me makes no difference to me in the slightest. Well, it is making me laugh a little at your determination to prove me wrong.

And trying to say that I was "owned". You know, given that I saw it first hand.

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

Silly cows. Again, I don't give a crap if there are or if there aren't. I know what I my sister ordered, I know what I saw. People were even talking about it in SW around the same time.

StormyJoe

HA HA HA!!!

I have not been owned, because I know what I saw. I did not have a halucination or dream it. Amazon did make the "Day 1" edition unavailable right after E3 (replacing it with the "standard edition"), then made it available again a few days later. The fact that you you don't seem to believe me makes no difference to me in the slightest. Well, it is making me laugh a little at your determination to prove me wrong.

And trying to say that I was "owned". You know, given that I saw it first hand.

I love this thread because it's so blatant and inflammatory.

Truth is, XB1 launch as a bad as it was, was still way better than PS3s.

As opposed to SONY, MSFT is actually adapting in real-time, recognizing mistakes and trying to course correct.... this is not to suggest that permanent damage hasn't been made... it has... but I laugh still have to laugh the delusional cowsthat have been in hibernation for the last 7 years after SONY's masterful implosion and gradual comeback that the XB1 is going to flop.

Get real children - mistakes happen as do recoveries.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]:lol: Why should anyone believe you when we all know what we saw and no source on the internet agrees with you? Face it, you've been owned!Kaz_Son

HA HA HA!!!

I have not been owned, because I know what I saw. I did not have a halucination or dream it. Amazon did make the "Day 1" edition unavailable right after E3 (replacing it with the "standard edition"), then made it available again a few days later. The fact that you you don't seem to believe me makes no difference to me in the slightest. Well, it is making me laugh a little at your determination to prove me wrong.

And trying to say that I was "owned". You know, given that I saw it first hand.

Really? Here's a tip for you: I don't care what you think or say... at all. The ONLY reason I even continue to reply is because you are making me laugh, and I kind of want to see how many times you reply.

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

HA HA HA!!!

I have not been owned, because I know what I saw. I did not have a halucination or dream it. Amazon did make the "Day 1" edition unavailable right after E3 (replacing it with the "standard edition"), then made it available again a few days later. The fact that you you don't seem to believe me makes no difference to me in the slightest. Well, it is making me laugh a little at your determination to prove me wrong.

And trying to say that I was "owned". You know, given that I saw it first hand.

StormyJoe

Really? Here's a tip for you: I don't care what you think or say... at all. The ONLY reason I even continue to reply is because you are making me laugh, and I kind of want to see how many times you reply.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]LOL, look at all that butthurt. ":cry: I know what I saw!"Kaz_Son

Really? Here's a tip for you: I don't care what you think or say... at all. The ONLY reason I even continue to reply is because you are making me laugh, and I kind of want to see how many times you reply.

Did I say I was mad? On the contrary, you are making my day by your responses. I even forwarded this thread on to my friends. Keep it up, little man.

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

Really? Here's a tip for you: I don't care what you think or say... at all. The ONLY reason I even continue to reply is because you are making me laugh, and I kind of want to see how many times you reply.

StormyJoe

Did I say I was mad? On the contrary, you are making my day by your responses. I even forwarded this thread on to my friends. Keep it up, little man.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]:lol: So much tears. Doesn't care about what I say but continues to reply me lol. #StaymadKaz_Son

Did I say I was mad? On the contrary, you are making my day by your responses. I even forwarded this thread on to my friends. Keep it up, little man.

Ahh... so, you are psychic now? Maybe a psychiatrist? Keep it up, little man. You have an audience now.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Because you're a cowardly crypto troll who comes in to do nothing but to contribute nothing and start arguments. Then you magically disappear when I challenge you to a ban bet.

CallOfDutyRulez

1. there's no such thing as a ban bet. mods won't enforce them.

2. you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place. :|

1. It doesn't matter if there was no such thing as a ban bet. The fact that you didn't have the balls to accept my challenge shows you are a ball-less mangina.

2. So why did you challenge my assertion that Halo 5 was gonna be a flop?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Because you're a cowardly crypto troll who comes in to do nothing but to contribute nothing and start arguments. Then you magically disappear when I challenge you to a ban bet.

CallOfDutyRulez

1. there's no such thing as a ban bet. mods won't enforce them.

2. you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place. :|

1. It doesn't matter if there was no such thing as a ban bet. The fact that you didn't have the balls to accept my challenge shows you are a ball-less mangina.

2. So why did you challenge my assertion that Halo 5 was gonna be a flop?

what part of "you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place." is so complicated that to this day you still can't understand it?

i didn't. :|

They built upon it. They goofed with a few things, but they have seen that individuals are using their one system, for more and more. It's just the way we are moving... Hell, smartphones have done the same.

[QUOTE="RedentSC"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I mean, you gotta look at this objectively.

1) They are losing massively on their hometurf. 

2) All their best exclusives like Halo and Forza are now AA POS.

3) Inferior multiplats

4) Inferior controller as stated by BF4 dev

I'm afraid that the xbox brand is going to go back into irrelevancy next gen. How could you screw up this badly?

CallOfDutyRulez

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/25/battlefield-4-designer-explains-superiority-of-dualshock-4-over-ps3-and-360-controller-mocks-the-fanboys/

I love this thread because it's so blatant and inflammatory.

Truth is, XB1 launch as a bad as it was, was still way better than PS3s.

As opposed to SONY, MSFT is actually adapting in real-time, recognizing mistakes and trying to course correct.... this is not to suggest that permanent damage hasn't been made... it has... but I laugh still have to laugh the delusional cowsthat have been in hibernation for the last 7 years after SONY's masterful implosion and gradual comeback that the XB1 is going to flop.

 

Get real children - mistakes happen as do recoveries.

QUIKnEZ

I have saw 2 scenarios already.

What happen when teh xbox and PS sell at the same price,the PS2 dominated like there was no tomorrow.

The xbox 360 been cheaper by up to $300 dollars than the PS3,the xbox 360 dominated for most of the generation and endes last.

And this holiday a 3rd scenario will happen when the xbox one is actually $100 dollar more expensive while been weaker.

I just can imagine how much the PS4 will out sell the xbox one,even more if the xbox one doesn't come out fast enough out of the yield problems.

[QUOTE="QUIKnEZ"]

I love this thread because it's so blatant and inflammatory.

Truth is, XB1 launch as a bad as it was, was still way better than PS3s.

As opposed to SONY, MSFT is actually adapting in real-time, recognizing mistakes and trying to course correct.... this is not to suggest that permanent damage hasn't been made... it has... but I laugh still have to laugh the delusional cowsthat have been in hibernation for the last 7 years after SONY's masterful implosion and gradual comeback that the XB1 is going to flop.

Get real children - mistakes happen as do recoveries.

tormentos

I have saw 2 scenarios already.

What happen when teh xbox and PS sell at the same price,the PS2 dominated like there was no tomorrow.

The xbox 360 been cheaper by up to $300 dollars than the PS3,the xbox 360 dominated for most of the generation and endes last.

And this holiday a 3rd scenario will happen when the xbox one is actually $100 dollar cheaper while been weaker.

I just can imagine how much the PS4 will out sell the xbox one,even more if the xbox one doesn't come out fast enough out of the yield problems.

The only reason the PS3 caught the 360 is because of the 9:1 sales advantage in Japan. The 360 sells more in NA (currently) and in the UK (currently), but sells less in the rest of the world. However, without the Japan 9:1 advantage, the "rest of the world" numbers are not enough for the PS3 to catch the 360.

In everywhere in the world, regardless of who is winning in sales, the numbers are not skewed like Japan. Not even close.

 

The only reason the PS3 caught the 360 is because of the 9:1 sales advantage in Japan. The 360 sells more in NA (currently) and in the UK (currently), but sells less in the rest of the world. However, without the Japan 9:1 advantage, the "rest of the world" numbers are not enough for the PS3 to catch the 360.

In everywhere in the world, regardless of who is winning in sales, the numbers are not skewed like Japan. Not even close.

StormyJoe

That liek saying the only reason the xbox 360 was ever in front was because of the US sales,in 2 of the 3 biggest market the PS3 dominated EU and Japan,since UK is part of EU is included in those sales and no enough to keed the xbox 360 ahead on EU.

In other wors if my grand mother would have not die she would still be living..duh..

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="RedentSC"] 4) Inferior controller as stated by BF4 dev . I agree with this... but can you link as i aint seen anything about thisShaineTheNerd

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/25/battlefield-4-designer-explains-superiority-of-dualshock-4-over-ps3-and-360-controller-mocks-the-fanboys/

Is the xbox ONE not part of next-gen? He clearly stated DS4 was his preference, meaning he preferred it to the ONE's controller.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

1. there's no such thing as a ban bet. mods won't enforce them.

2. you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place. :|

CaseyWegner

1. It doesn't matter if there was no such thing as a ban bet. The fact that you didn't have the balls to accept my challenge shows you are a ball-less mangina.

2. So why did you challenge my assertion that Halo 5 was gonna be a flop?

what part of "you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place." is so complicated that to this day you still can't understand it?

i didn't. :|

Excuses. You are a big mangina and everyone knows it. You also have poor memory.

In that thread, I said Halo is a AA series now and that Halo 5 is gonna get a sub-85 score on meta. You said that we should average the previous installments instead of looking at the most recent versions. I said that was bullshit, as previous installments don't give an accurate depiction of what a studio can do in the present. SE isn't churning out Final Fantasy IX-quality games right now, is it?

That looks like a challenge to me, mangina.

Excuses. You are a big mangina and everyone knows it. You also have poor memory.

In that thread, I said Halo is a AA series now and that Halo 5 is gonna get a sub-85 score on meta. You said that we should average the previous installments instead of looking at the most recent versions. I said that was bullshit, as previous installments don't give an accurate depiction of what a studio can do in the present. SE isn't churning out Final Fantasy IX-quality games right now, is it?

That looks like a challenge to me, mangina.

CallOfDutyRulez

Bro, get over shit.

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

You just named 4 big reasons. Better specs, better first party developers, $100 cheaper and no forced spy cam. What reason does that leave to buy a Xbone unless you can't live without 343s Halo?

BigBoss255

Such empty, baseless and assumptive statements. Why don't you just admit that you're an Xbox fanboy or maybe even that you're being paid by MS, you're a new poster aren't you?

I will be honest, I'm going off my 7th gen experiences. PSN doesn't hold a candle to XBL.

I wouldn't say I'm a fanboy, though I do prefer the Xbox 360 over the PS3. I have both the Xbox One and PS4 preordered, and I know they will both be terrific consoles. So far I like the idea of the One more, and still think the PS4 will be obsolete beyond exclusives in the future.

And no. I've been posting for quite a while now.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Excuses. You are a big mangina and everyone knows it. You also have poor memory.

In that thread, I said Halo is a AA series now and that Halo 5 is gonna get a sub-85 score on meta. You said that we should average the previous installments instead of looking at the most recent versions. I said that was bullshit, as previous installments don't give an accurate depiction of what a studio can do in the present. SE isn't churning out Final Fantasy IX-quality games right now, is it?

That looks like a challenge to me, mangina.

lundy86_4

Bro, get over shit.

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] Naughty Dog doesn't justify buying a console. There is no spying with the Kinect -- you cows are ignorant. The specs count for dick. I would much prefer the console with more appealing games, better online infrastructure, and the top-of-the-line controller. The PS4 is appealing to the majority right now, but that 7th gen super console can't compete with the One down the road.ShaineTheNerd

Such empty, baseless and assumptive statements. Why don't you just admit that you're an Xbox fanboy or maybe even that you're being paid by MS, you're a new poster aren't you?

I will be honest, I'm going off my 7th gen experiences. PSN doesn't hold a candle to XBL.

I wouldn't say I'm a fanboy, though I do prefer the Xbox 360 over the PS3. I have both the Xbox One and PS4 preordered, and I know they will both be terrific consoles. So far I like the idea of the One more, and still think the PS4 will be obsolete beyond exclusives in the future.

And no. I've been posting for quite a while now.

XBL has people who actually talk, so that's something. xgame chat is also pretty cool. But other than that, what does it have than PSN doesn't?

XBL gaming is kinda laggy due to garbage P2P netcode. 

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

1. It doesn't matter if there was no such thing as a ban bet. The fact that you didn't have the balls to accept my challenge shows you are a ball-less mangina.

2. So why did you challenge my assertion that Halo 5 was gonna be a flop?

CallOfDutyRulez

what part of "you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place." is so complicated that to this day you still can't understand it?

i didn't. :|

Excuses. You are a big mangina and everyone knows it. You also have poor memory.

In that thread, I said Halo is a AA series now and that Halo 5 is gonna get a sub-85 score on meta. You said that we should average the previous installments instead of looking at the most recent versions. I said that was bullshit, as previous installments don't give an accurate depiction of what a studio can do in the present. SE isn't churning out Final Fantasy IX-quality games right now, is it?

That looks like a challenge to me, mangina.

what in the hell are you talking about? no i didn't. you're starting to sound like casharmy. :|

i'm not going to take a bet over something i've never said. it would be like me asking you to bet that the xbox one will be more powerful than the ps4 and calling you names if you refuse because that's not your stance. :|

CallOfDutyRulez is probably the biggest idiot on SW, Lundy. I wouldn't even bother arguing with him. ShaineTheNerd

He definitely is, lol.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what part of "you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place." is so complicated that to this day you still can't understand it?

i didn't. :|

CaseyWegner

Excuses. You are a big mangina and everyone knows it. You also have poor memory.

In that thread, I said Halo is a AA series now and that Halo 5 is gonna get a sub-85 score on meta. You said that we should average the previous installments instead of looking at the most recent versions. I said that was bullshit, as previous installments don't give an accurate depiction of what a studio can do in the present. SE isn't churning out Final Fantasy IX-quality games right now, is it?

That looks like a challenge to me, mangina.

what in the hell are you talking about? no i didn't. :|

i'm not going to take a bet over something i've never said. it would be like me asking you to bet that the xbox one will be more powerful than the ps4 and calling you names if you refuse because that's not your stance. :|

You defended the Halo series and called it a AAA series. That sounds an awful lot like you believing the next halo will be a AAA game. 

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Excuses. You are a big mangina and everyone knows it. You also have poor memory.

In that thread, I said Halo is a AA series now and that Halo 5 is gonna get a sub-85 score on meta. You said that we should average the previous installments instead of looking at the most recent versions. I said that was bullshit, as previous installments don't give an accurate depiction of what a studio can do in the present. SE isn't churning out Final Fantasy IX-quality games right now, is it?

That looks like a challenge to me, mangina.

ShaineTheNerd

Bro, get over shit.

Says the guy who doesn't know what "preference" means.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Excuses. You are a big mangina and everyone knows it. You also have poor memory.

In that thread, I said Halo is a AA series now and that Halo 5 is gonna get a sub-85 score on meta. You said that we should average the previous installments instead of looking at the most recent versions. I said that was bullshit, as previous installments don't give an accurate depiction of what a studio can do in the present. SE isn't churning out Final Fantasy IX-quality games right now, is it?

That looks like a challenge to me, mangina.

CallOfDutyRulez

what in the hell are you talking about? no i didn't. :|

i'm not going to take a bet over something i've never said. it would be like me asking you to bet that the xbox one will be more powerful than the ps4 and calling you names if you refuse because that's not your stance. :|

You defended the Halo series and called it a AAA series. That sounds an awful lot like you believing the next halo will be a AAA game. 

the only time i've commented on the franchise as a whole was here. my stance has not changed regarding predicting what the next one will be.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25680157/halo-is-not-a-proven-aaa-franchise-yet?page=0

why are you inventing things to bet with people over? how many times do i have to repeat myself and tell you that's NOT what i said? :|

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what in the hell are you talking about? no i didn't. :|

i'm not going to take a bet over something i've never said. it would be like me asking you to bet that the xbox one will be more powerful than the ps4 and calling you names if you refuse because that's not your stance. :|

CaseyWegner

You defended the Halo series and called it a AAA series. That sounds an awful lot like you believing the next halo will be a AAA game. 

the only time i've commented on the franchise as a whole was here. my stance has not changed regarding predicting what the next one will be.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25680157/halo-is-not-a-proven-aaa-franchise-yet?page=0

why are you inventing things to bet with people over? how many times do i have to repeat myself and tell you that's NOT what i said? :|

That was 6 years ago, you mangina.

Answer this: Do you think Halo is a AAA franchise?

That was 6 years ago, you mangina.

Answer this: Do you think Halo is a AAA franchise?

CallOfDutyRulez

It sounds, like your initial argument fell flat.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

You defended the Halo series and called it a AAA series. That sounds an awful lot like you believing the next halo will be a AAA game. 

CallOfDutyRulez

the only time i've commented on the franchise as a whole was here. my stance has not changed regarding predicting what the next one will be.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25680157/halo-is-not-a-proven-aaa-franchise-yet?page=0

why are you inventing things to bet with people over? how many times do i have to repeat myself and tell you that's NOT what i said? :|

That was 6 years ago, you mangina.

Answer this: Do you think Halo is a AAA franchise?

how did you miss the part where i said that was the only time i've commented on the franchise as a whole and that my stance hasn't changed? it's literally right up there in the post i just made. did you just see a link and read absolutely nothing else? nothing else? :|

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

That was 6 years ago, you mangina.

Answer this: Do you think Halo is a AAA franchise?

lundy86_4

It sounds, like your initial argument fell flat.

He was talking about Halo 1 and Halo 2 in that thread and how Halo isn't a AAA franchise yet (And he's right, there are only 2 games at that time). But now, Halo 3, reach and 4 are out. He directly said that Halo is a AAA franchise in the last thread we debated on.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

1. It doesn't matter if there was no such thing as a ban bet. The fact that you didn't have the balls to accept my challenge shows you are a ball-less mangina.

2. So why did you challenge my assertion that Halo 5 was gonna be a flop?

CallOfDutyRulez

what part of "you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place." is so complicated that to this day you still can't understand it?

i didn't. :|

Excuses. You are a big mangina and everyone knows it. You also have poor memory.

In that thread, I said Halo is a AA series now and that Halo 5 is gonna get a sub-85 score on meta. You said that we should average the previous installments instead of looking at the most recent versions. I said that was bullshit, as previous installments don't give an accurate depiction of what a studio can do in the present. SE isn't churning out Final Fantasy IX-quality games right now, is it?

That looks like a challenge to me, mangina.

The difference is 3 or 4 studios are handling one franchise and not just one.I'm including the studio who developed halo anniversary  as a developer of the halo franchise.It's harder to determine the quality of a franchise because of this.

He was talking about Halo 1 and Halo 2 in that thread and how Halo isn't a AAA franchise yet (And he's right, there are only 2 games at that time). But now, Halo 3, reach and 4 are out. He directly said that Halo is a AAA franchise in the last thread we debated on.

CallOfDutyRulez

In fact, he directly referenced Halo 3 and Legends, and stated how they were not reviewed, and thus not AAAE. His comment cannot be held in reference to an upcoming release... That's idiotic :?

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the only time i've commented on the franchise as a whole was here. my stance has not changed regarding predicting what the next one will be.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25680157/halo-is-not-a-proven-aaa-franchise-yet?page=0

why are you inventing things to bet with people over? how many times do i have to repeat myself and tell you that's NOT what i said? :|

CaseyWegner

That was 6 years ago, you mangina.

Answer this: Do you think Halo is a AAA franchise?

how did you miss the part where i said that was the only time i've commented on the franchise as a whole and that my stance hasn't changed? it's literally right up there in the post i just made. did you just see a link and read absolutely nothing else? nothing else? :|

Me:

Gears of War is finished, just like Halo.

The best xbox exclusive isn't even a AAA now. 

You:

how did they all get downgraded because one game scored sub-AAA? quit changing the subject. 

You gonna keep denying it now?

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"]CallOfDutyRulez is probably the biggest idiot on SW, Lundy. I wouldn't even bother arguing with him. lundy86_4

He definitely is, lol.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"]CallOfDutyRulez is probably the biggest idiot on SW, Lundy. I wouldn't even bother arguing with him. Granny_Spanked

He definitely is, lol.

Everyone hates the messenger.

Cows hate me because I criticize SONY's poor engineering decisions.

Lems hate me because I called 360's exclusive trash.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what part of "you asked me to bet on a position i never even agreed with, made, cared about, knew anything about, or supported in the first place." is so complicated that to this day you still can't understand it?

i didn't. :|

super600

Excuses. You are a big mangina and everyone knows it. You also have poor memory.

In that thread, I said Halo is a AA series now and that Halo 5 is gonna get a sub-85 score on meta. You said that we should average the previous installments instead of looking at the most recent versions. I said that was bullshit, as previous installments don't give an accurate depiction of what a studio can do in the present. SE isn't churning out Final Fantasy IX-quality games right now, is it?

That looks like a challenge to me, mangina.

The difference is 3 or 4 studios are handling one franchise and not just one.I'm including the studio who developed halo anniversary  as a developer of the halo franchise.It's harder to determine the quality of a franchise because of this.

We're only looking at the main installments of the series

Halo: CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo reach and Halo 4.

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/25/battlefield-4-designer-explains-superiority-of-dualshock-4-over-ps3-and-360-controller-mocks-the-fanboys/

CallOfDutyRulez

Is the xbox ONE not part of next-gen? He clearly stated DS4 was his preference, meaning he preferred it to the ONE's controller.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] Notice nothing was said about the One controller. ShaineTheNerd

Is the xbox ONE not part of next-gen? He clearly stated DS4 was his preference, meaning he preferred it to the ONE's controller.

Use your head, moron. He probably meant next-gen.

He compared it to the PS3 controller first, saying it's a big improvement. Then he said it's his preference for next gen. Just because he didn't state the ONE's controller doesn't mean he wasn't comparing the DS4 to the ONE's controller.

But yeah, keep crying lemming. The DS3 and DS4 are obviously in the same generation and he was obviously talking about his preference between 2 controllers of 2 different generations even when he directly it's the best controller of next-generation. :lol:

[QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

He definitely is, lol.

CallOfDutyRulez

Everyone hates the messenger.

Cows hate me because I criticize SONY's poor engineering decisions.

Lems hate me because I called 360's exclusive trash.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"] I think he is the one guy cows and lems both hate.ShaineTheNerd

Everyone hates the messenger.

Cows hate me because I criticize SONY's poor engineering decisions.

Lems hate me because I called 360's exclusive trash.

BF4 dev: The DS4 is my preference for next gen.

ShaineTheMoron: He's obviously saying he prefers the DS4 to the last-gen model.

:lol:

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Is the xbox ONE not part of next-gen? He clearly stated DS4 was his preference, meaning he preferred it to the ONE's controller.

CallOfDutyRulez

Use your head, moron. He probably meant next-gen.

He compared it to the PS3 controller first, saying it's a big improvement. Then he said it's his preference for next gen. Just because he didn't state the ONE's controller doesn't mean he wasn't comparing the DS4 to the ONE's controller.

But yeah, keep crying lemming. The DS3 and DS4 are obviously in the same generation and he was obviously talking about his preference between 2 controllers of 2 different generations even when he was talking about 1 generation. :lol:

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Everyone hates the messenger.

Cows hate me because I criticize SONY's poor engineering decisions.

Lems hate me because I called 360's exclusive trash.

CallOfDutyRulez

BF4 dev: The DS4 is my preference for next gen.

ShaineTheMoron: He's obviously saying he prefers the DS4 to the last-gen model.

:lol:

Use your head, moron. He probably meant next-gen.CallOfDutyRulez

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] He said "gen4". What the fvck is gen4? He was comparing it to the DS3 and 360 controller. That's it. ShaineTheNerd

Use your head, moron. He probably meant next-gen.

He compared it to the PS3 controller first, saying it's a big improvement. Then he said it's his preference for next gen. Just because he didn't state the ONE's controller doesn't mean he wasn't comparing the DS4 to the ONE's controller.

But yeah, keep crying lemming. The DS3 and DS4 are obviously in the same generation and he was obviously talking about his preference between 2 controllers of 2 different generations even when he was talking about 1 generation. :lol:

Someone can't understand sarcasm.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] Cows hate you because you flip flop more than Microsoft, and you say the dumbest shit.
Lems hate you because you flip flop more than Microsoft, and you say the dumbest shit.ShaineTheNerd

BF4 dev: The DS4 is my preference for next gen.

ShaineTheMoron: He's obviously saying he prefers the DS4 to the last-gen model.

:lol:

Use your head, moron. He probably meant next-gen.CallOfDutyRulez

In what generation is the DS4 being used for? Yeah, he was obviously comparing the DS4 controller to the SNES controller. :roll:

I rest my case.

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

BF4 dev: The DS4 is my preference for next gen.

ShaineTheMoron: He's obviously saying he prefers the DS4 to the last-gen model.

:lol:

CallOfDutyRulez

Use your head, moron. He probably meant next-gen.CallOfDutyRulez

I rest my case.