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ugh, and certain cows were adamant the screens of TLOU with no aliasing whatsoever were plausible on current console hardware. But yeah the ridiculous praising of dynamic AI and multiple paths through levels (omg!) in this game is already getting tiresome. But then Naughty Dog does seem good at attracting the hyperbole reactions.
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]I dont see Last of Us comparing to Gears 3 at all, the difference is night and day Last of Us looks like a PS1 game comparing to Gears 3tormentosMe neither thank god for that.. PS1 that is allot i would say Sega CD.
TLOU doesn't look that bad, you're just being silly now.
Tell me,where did I say anything about TLoU being inferior to Halo 4 visually?I don't care about graphics in either of those games,I play on the PC,and compared to most modern PC titles,this looks bad to mediocre...Funny because this game has something i have not seen in PC games,is call attention to realism... It was explain in several articles about this game,is how ND is making the characters fell like real,from how they run and how they have to touch a wall to not fall and stuff like that,that is something i saw also on Uncharted 3 sand stage the physics how the sand reacted to drake steps,how the water get him wet. From what i have read and see in videos this game is not your normal shot and run game,is going after a more realistic feel,something you just don't get by injecting millions of polygons.I'm just saying that it feels like most cows don't care about AI,or gameplay here,they just care about technical graphics,since they can use them as an "ownage" against lems and 360 titles...And your posts so far help to prove my point,like the one above...Rocker6
[QUOTE="Rocker6"]Tell me,where did I say anything about TLoU being inferior to Halo 4 visually?I don't care about graphics in either of those games,I play on the PC,and compared to most modern PC titles,this looks bad to mediocre...Funny because this game has something i have not seen in PC games,is call attention to realism... It was explain in several articles about this game,is how ND is making the characters fell like real,from how they run and how they have to touch a wall to not fall and stuff like that,that is something i saw also on Uncharted 3 sand stage the physics how the sand reacted to drake steps,how the water get him wet. From what i have read and see in videos this game is not your normal shot and run game,is going after a more realistic feel,something you just don't get by injecting millions of polygons. Realism? The Grass looks fake, the vines look fake the trees look fake. Just like every other PS3 game that tries to do Grass, Trees, and vines.I'm just saying that it feels like most cows don't care about AI,or gameplay here,they just care about technical graphics,since they can use them as an "ownage" against lems and 360 titles...And your posts so far help to prove my point,like the one above...tormentos
They act as if it has never been done before,lolugh, and certain cows were adamant the screens of TLOU with no aliasing whatsoever were plausible on current console hardware. But yeah the ridiculous praising of dynamic AI and multiple paths through levels (omg!) in this game is already getting tiresome. But then Naughty Dog does seem good at attracting the hyperbole reactions.
marklarmer
Graphics look pretty good considering what they are aiming for with this game.delta3074
They look terrible and games like Gears 3 and Halo 4 have 100x bigger levels and more open world by miles and look generations better
PS3 GPU and seprate RAM is a disaster as it seems, 360 seems like outputting double ot triple the graphics power right now
Funny because this game has something i have not seen in PC games,is call attention to realism...
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Wow the first and only hermit who praises a console game's graphics :PWow, look at the great graphics!
mitu123
[QUOTE="delta3074"]Graphics look pretty good considering what they are aiming for with this game.loosingENDS
They look terrible and games like Gears 3 and Halo 4 have 100x bigger levels and more open world by miles and look generations better
PS3 GPU and seprate RAM is a disaster as it seems, 360 seems like outputting double ot triple the graphics power right now
It's obvious that naughty dog are aiming for a game with bigger scale,Graphical sacrifices usually have to be made with scale, like i said, for what they are aiming for the graphics look pretty good, they look good to me anyway, Not as good as gears 3 at the moment but there is plenty of time to add post processing effects and as far as gameplay goes with the multiple routes and impressive AI this looks far more interesting to me than gears, i may have to hijack the wifes Ps3 when this comes out.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]Tell me,where did I say anything about TLoU being inferior to Halo 4 visually?I don't care about graphics in either of those games,I play on the PC,and compared to most modern PC titles,this looks bad to mediocre...Funny because this game has something i have not seen in PC games,is call attention to realism... It was explain in several articles about this game,is how ND is making the characters fell like real,from how they run and how they have to touch a wall to not fall and stuff like that,that is something i saw also on Uncharted 3 sand stage the physics how the sand reacted to drake steps,how the water get him wet. From what i have read and see in videos this game is not your normal shot and run game,is going after a more realistic feel,something you just don't get by injecting millions of polygons. Realism? The Grass looks fake, the vines look fake the trees look fake. Just like every other PS3 game that tries to do Grass, Trees, and vines. Maybe when you see this game in a video you will know what i am talking about.. lol at the Grass,vines and trees remark...I'm just saying that it feels like most cows don't care about AI,or gameplay here,they just care about technical graphics,since they can use them as an "ownage" against lems and 360 titles...And your posts so far help to prove my point,like the one above...StatusShuffle
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Graphics look pretty good considering what they are aiming for with this game.delta3074
They look terrible and games like Gears 3 and Halo 4 have 100x bigger levels and more open world by miles and look generations better
PS3 GPU and seprate RAM is a disaster as it seems, 360 seems like outputting double ot triple the graphics power right now
It's obvious that naughty dog are aiming for a game with bigger scale,Graphical sacrifices usually have to be made with scale, like i said, for what they are aiming for the graphics look pretty good, they look good to me anyway, Not as good as gears 3 at the moment but there is plenty of time to add post processing effects and as far as gameplay goes with the multiple routes and impressive AI this looks far more interesting to me than gears, i may have to hijack the wifes Ps3 when this comes out. If it's not open-world and mutliple routes what real reason can you give for the game looking that bad? Watch ND claim it's a new artstyle.
Wow, look at the great graphics!
mitu123
Yup, for a Console with technology from pre 2006 those are amazing, thanks for sharing!
Wow the first and only hermit who praises a console game's graphics :P[QUOTE="mitu123"]
Wow, look at the great graphics!
jackfruitchips
I find hard to believe how bad these graphics look
Some iPhone games look generations better
[QUOTE="delta3074"]Graphics look pretty good considering what they are aiming for with this game.loosingENDS
They look terrible and games like Gears 3 and Halo 4 have 100x bigger levels and more open world by miles and look generations better
PS3 GPU and seprate RAM is a disaster as it seems, 360 seems like outputting double ot triple the graphics power right now
200 times bigger and better Halo 4 is,i tell you the POS3 is a crappy console...uhgg[QUOTE="mitu123"]
Wow, look at the great graphics!
loosingENDS
LOL, to make levels wide the graphics have gone down to PS1 levels
Sony needs a PS4, yesterday, who would buy a game looking like that for 60$, that looks horrible
PS1 graphics.Wow the first and only hermit who praises a console game's graphics :P[QUOTE="jackfruitchips"]
[QUOTE="mitu123"]
Wow, look at the great graphics!
loosingENDS
I find hard to believe how bad these graphics look
Some iPhone games look generations better
I'm not a hermit.:x You have a gaming PC :P[QUOTE="jackfruitchips"]Wow the first and only hermit who praises a console game's graphics :P
mitu123
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"] Herms only focusing on graphics while the topic was about the AI (and smartly so as there's no game on PC with an AI like this, but there are plenty of games with better graphics).Rocker6
"dynamic AI, where characters move, talk and act in a highly contextual manner."
You make it sound as if character interaction is a new invention by naughty dog. I mean hell, TacOps (a mod for unreal) had hostiages that were terrified of the terrorist. But, if a gun lay on the ground near them, they wouldn't shy away from picking it up and shooting at the terrorists (or in some cases the rescuers if the hostage took one to many 'freindly fire' rounds :lol: )
There is a lot of PR talk about TLoU's AI and dynamics,that's for sure,but there still is some nice interaction among protagonists,from what we've seen on E3...
I just wonder if it'll manage to work properly,and stay natural and consistent during the entire game experience...
Without a doubt that E3 video looked fluid and great, DF pretty much redid the video again in the link. So that gets me thinking and what your wondering about is exactly what I'm worried about.[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]It's obvious that naughty dog are aiming for a game with bigger scale,Graphical sacrifices usually have to be made with scale, like i said, for what they are aiming for the graphics look pretty good, they look good to me anyway, Not as good as gears 3 at the moment but there is plenty of time to add post processing effects and as far as gameplay goes with the multiple routes and impressive AI this looks far more interesting to me than gears, i may have to hijack the wifes Ps3 when this comes out. If it's not open-world and mutliple routes what real reason can you give for the game looking that bad? Watch ND claim it's a new artstyle.They don't look bad though, They look pretty good actually, don't know what pictures you are looking at,lolThey look terrible and games like Gears 3 and Halo 4 have 100x bigger levels and more open world by miles and look generations better
PS3 GPU and seprate RAM is a disaster as it seems, 360 seems like outputting double ot triple the graphics power right now
StatusShuffle
You have a gaming PC :P I have all the consoles.:D nah you have only PS3[QUOTE="jackfruitchips"][QUOTE="mitu123"] I'm not a hermit.:x
mitu123
You have a gaming PC :P I have all the consoles.:D Yes, you paid 600-1000$ to be a manticore, you could've just stuck with the PC and a PS3 ya know >.>[QUOTE="jackfruitchips"][QUOTE="mitu123"] I'm not a hermit.:x
mitu123
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]Tell me,where did I say anything about TLoU being inferior to Halo 4 visually?I don't care about graphics in either of those games,I play on the PC,and compared to most modern PC titles,this looks bad to mediocre...Funny because this game has something i have not seen in PC games,is call attention to realism... It was explain in several articles about this game,is how ND is making the characters fell like real,from how they run and how they have to touch a wall to not fall and stuff like that,that is something i saw also on Uncharted 3 sand stage the physics how the sand reacted to drake steps,how the water get him wet. From what i have read and see in videos this game is not your normal shot and run game,is going after a more realistic feel,something you just don't get by injecting millions of polygons. Realism? The Grass looks fake, the vines look fake the trees look fake. Just like every other PS3 game that tries to do Grass, Trees, and vines.I'm just saying that it feels like most cows don't care about AI,or gameplay here,they just care about technical graphics,since they can use them as an "ownage" against lems and 360 titles...And your posts so far help to prove my point,like the one above...StatusShuffle
The grass, vines, and trees shown on those 360 shots look like crap too. Who are we kidding here?
[QUOTE="mitu123"]I have all the consoles.:D nah you have only PS3 Lol, no, it was the last console I got this gen, I have a 360 and Wii way in advance and I didn't even get a high end rig until this year.[QUOTE="jackfruitchips"] You have a gaming PC :Pjackfruitchips
[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] Realism? The Grass looks fake, the vines look fake the trees look fake. Just like every other PS3 game that tries to do Grass, Trees, and vines.jun_aka_pekto
The grass, vines, and trees shown on those 360 shots look like crap too. Who are we kidding here?
The 360 is teh king of trees, grass and vines :lol:[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] I guess that also explains why it has less native HD games as well.StatusShuffleCount how many SONY first party game run under 720P and how many MS ones run under 720p..lol Sony not 3rd party one sony which does the best looking games on PS3. Halo 3 = 1152x640 (no AA) Halo 3: ODST = 1152x640 (no AA) Halo: Reach = 1152x720 (2xAA temporal) You can start with this ^^... There are more Native 720p Xbox 360 games than Native 720P PS3 games, don't twist things.
and 95% of them are games that came out around 2006 and 2007 anyway but we are in 2012 when PS3 reigns as king of console graphics.
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] I guess that also explains why it has less native HD games as well.StatusShuffleCount how many SONY first party game run under 720P and how many MS ones run under 720p..lol Sony not 3rd party one sony which does the best looking games on PS3. Halo 3 = 1152x640 (no AA) Halo 3: ODST = 1152x640 (no AA) Halo: Reach = 1152x720 (2xAA temporal) You can start with this ^^... There are more Native 720p Xbox 360 games than Native 720P PS3 games, don't twist things.
How many 360 games run at native 1080p?
[QUOTE="mitu123"]may as well have thrown them boxing gloves, way to keep the blaze burning,lol Na it was from their that i took the ones i post. MS has more games under 720p than sony,3rd party are meaningless they did not took advantage of the xbox and it was far easier than the PS2 and PS3.^Ok you 2, use this list from this link.
delta3074
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Graphics look pretty good considering what they are aiming for with this game.tormentos
They look terrible and games like Gears 3 and Halo 4 have 100x bigger levels and more open world by miles and look generations better
PS3 GPU and seprate RAM is a disaster as it seems, 360 seems like outputting double ot triple the graphics power right now
200 times bigger and better Halo 4 is,i tell you the POS3 is a crappy console...uhgg Oh, goody! Fanboy b*tch slapfight! Nice to see two idiots like you and Loosey hitting it off.Uncharted 3 had one of the most impressive background streaming systems we've seen in a console title - a piece of tech that pushed the console so hard that the developer actually ran into problems with compatibility on earlier machines, only resolved in the final days before the game shipped. The Last of Us utilises this tech in a similar manner: eliminating level loading and streaming in assets - like voice work and animation - as they are needed
It's the best solution for the most realistic effect - procedurally generated motion is the natural evolution, as we've seen from first-gen efforts like FIFA's Impact Engine, but Naughty Dog's solution produces the more convincing effect. As a result, there's a genuine sense that these are living, breathing characters, interacting incidentally with their surroundings in a believable manner. The emphasis on realism extends to combat: whether you're taking damage or dishing it out, the location-based animation is brutally realistic to the point where the effect can be genuinely disconcerting. Brutal, visceral, unsettling. Death has consequences in The Last of Us. Here, Joel creates a Molotov cocktail with bandages and alcohol, burning a foe to death - an action that Ellie seems to have serious issues with.
All of which leads us towards the element that interests us most: the moral choices facing the player and how this adjusts the gameplay. In the walkthrough we witness Joel using the new inventory system to fashion a Molotov cocktail, brutally burning one of the Hunters to death. The alcohol and bandages used to create the weapon can be used for medicinal purposes, so there's clearly a strong resource-management component to the game. But more interesting than that is Ellie's disgusted response - in her eyes, Joel has crossed a line. We're curious just how far Naughty Dog will go here: whether Ellie develops as a character based on the experiences she is exposed to by the player, or if she progresses on a simpler, more linear path, with a set series of contextual responses to specific scenarios. The choices the developer makes here could have a fundamental effect on how players choose to tackle the game. The Last of Us - but all the signs look good, and the freeform, almost dynamic narrative perhaps offers us a first look at the kind of storytelling and gameplay we expect to feature prominently in top-tier next-gen titles. "Naughty Dog explored CPU-driven 'helper' AI in the Uncharted games, but in Ellie it has created its most interactive, fully realised character to date."
Once again this game is on another level,is not your usual resident evil survival crap,or anything of that sort this game is aiming much higher.tormentos
Pretty much. Is just that people around here are so used to bullshots that when they see direct-feed screens they think no game actually looks like that. But the best part is:
"The advantage with this "lighter touch" approach to the post-process is that pixel-crawl is all but eliminated, and there is doubtless a large resource saving in comparison with Sony's established MLAA technology. In truth, the Uncharted tech remains state-of-the-art to the point where further enhancements in terms of model detail or texture quality are not really required to achieve the firm's artistic vision."
So basically LOU has some the most advanced AA and lighting on consoles. And I bet this game will take all the graphic awards of 2013 just like Uncharted 3 did last year.
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