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#51 deadlyabdus123
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wait for review scores, i dont see why u guys hate it so much, the trailer didnt look bad to me, it looks like the same old pretty much. Im happy as long as the gamplay is similar and in 60fps, screw how he looks. People like you caused infamous 2 from having a pretty looking guy back to an ugly bald guy, developers shouldent listen to fans. Same happened with max payne 3, well nothing happened but gamers complained about playing as a bald fat guy, fans make me sick.
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#52 Heil68
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Speaking of DMC, anyone getting this? I am.mitu123
I may be since I've only played DMC4..would be a good value for me.
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#53 Yangire
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wait for review scores, i dont see why u guys hate it so much, the trailer didnt look bad to me, it looks like the same old pretty much. Im happy as long as the gamplay is similar and in 60fps, screw how he looks. People like you caused infamous 2 from having a pretty looking guy back to an ugly bald guy, developers shouldent listen to fans. Same happened with max payne 3, well nothing happened but gamers complained about playing as a bald fat guy, fans make me sick. deadlyabdus123

DMC runs at 30 FPS if I remember correctly.

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[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]wait for review scores, i dont see why u guys hate it so much, the trailer didnt look bad to me, it looks like the same old pretty much. Im happy as long as the gamplay is similar and in 60fps, screw how he looks. People like you caused infamous 2 from having a pretty looking guy back to an ugly bald guy, developers shouldent listen to fans. Same happened with max payne 3, well nothing happened but gamers complained about playing as a bald fat guy, fans make me sick. Yangire

DMC runs at 30 FPS if I remember correctly.

screw it then lol, 60fps i what i expect from my DMC
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#55 travisstaggs
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[QUOTE="Hashim19"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

DMC 3 is also on PC...

mitu123

It was ported later

And it's better on there.:P

No, it's not. DMC3 for PC was one of the worst ports I ever played.

On the topic: I don't expect it to be nearly as good as DMC3, but I plan on picking it up anyways.

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Wait is that collection real? That is bought straight away.
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#57 Swift_Boss_A
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Exclusive or not DmC is nothing but a cash in, abuse of the logo for a new audience. I think if you are a fan of DMC you should not accept this in the franchise, I mean have some standards right? I really have nothing against Ninja Theory but Capcom could not have picked worse devs for this title. And they have no understanding for the IP, remember Tameen saying it's about fashion and crap? And lets not forget him saying it's outdated and Dante is uncool, he sure respects the IP he is working on amarite? And Yeah cause a teen angst main character and plot is so modern lol. OMGZ dont accepta world cause its not as it seems :lol: The writing in the trailer made me facepalm multiple times and the rest was so bad I had an implied facepalm, especially the slo-mo turning into white hair devil trigger.

Nothing I have seen in the DmC trailer leads me to believe that there is any creativity in the title, and everything has been done better by Capcom themselves. Check the first trailer for the previous DMC games they blow this crap right out of the water. As a fan of DMC and of Dante, I can only hope this filth flops and bombs hard so Capcom would actually make a game that lives up to the name and then some, heck I would rather DMC die instead of getting bastardized. Remember not all change is good especially one as drastic as in this game. I consider myself a down to earth person and my expectations are always in check, never sky high but even then I can't find a single redeemable quality in this title, I have to ask myself, Why blind faith in Ninja Theory? DmC is bad plain and simple.

Sorry lol, I get worked up when it comes to DmC :P

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#58 pills4louis
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[QUOTE="pills4louis"]

This is off-topic but you sure got a good taste in 360 games. I was going to tell you that in the Demon's Souls hype thread but you were talkin bout how Demon's Souls is better than Shadow Tower/King's Field *tisk* *tisk*.

Yangire

Thanks, brah. About half of the 360 games I play are Cave bullet hell shooters, though, and about half of my achievements I have no idea how I got them due to moonspeak. Nier is definitely my favorite game of this generation, though. As for Demon's Souls, I'm not trashing Shadow Tower/ King's Field. I like KF, and love Shadow Tower. Demon's Souls just seems like a natural progression, just like Dark Souls is taking the formula to the next level yet again.

screw it then lol, 60fps i what i expect from my DMCdeadlyabdus123
Egads. Spoiled much?

Really because if anything the game is leaking like its going to be better. And talking about a lack of personality? Dante was in no way original. Playing as the new dante will be something different.good_sk8er7
Dante (at least in DMC1) was very much akin to Bruce Campbell's character in Army of Darkness. Original? No. Full of cheesy "so bad they're good" one-liners and just downright entertaining? Yes. Trying to inject strong storytelling into Devil May Cry is just begging for trouble. Look at what this has done to the likes of Sonic the Hedgehog and Metroid.

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#59 Jynxzor
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This is DMC: Note the slice of pizza.

This we all wish didn't end with him jumping off the wall. Also this is NOT DMC: Note the lack of Pizza or awesomeness.

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#60 Hashim19
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Exclusive or not DmC is nothing but a cash in, abuse of the logo for a new audience. I think if you are a fan of DMC you should not accept this in the franchise, I mean have some standards right? I really have nothing against Ninja Theory but Capcom could not have picked worse devs for this title. And they have no understanding for the IP, remember Tameen saying it's about fashion and crap? And lets not forget him saying it's outdated and Dante is uncool, he sure respects the IP he is working on amarite? And Yeah cause a teen angst main character and plot is so modern lol. OMGZ dont accepta world cause its not as it seems :lol: The writing in the trailer made me facepalm multiple times and the rest was so bad I had an implied facepalm, especially the slo-mo turning into white hair devil trigger.

Nothing I have seen in the DmC trailer leads me to believe that there is any creativity in the title, and everything has been done better by Capcom themselves. Check the first trailer for the previous DMC games they blow this crap right out of the water. As a fan of DMC and of Dante, I can only hope this filth flops and bombs hard so Capcom would actually make a game that lives up to the name and then some, heck I would rather DMC die instead of getting bastardized. Remember not all change is good especially one as drastic as in this game. I consider myself a down to earth person and my expectations are always in check, never sky high but even then I can't find a single redeemable quality in this title, I have to ask myself, Why blind faith in Ninja Theory? DmC is bad plain and simple.

Sorry lol, I get worked up when it comes to DmC :P

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Haha yeah they are just using Dmc name to sell few copies thats it
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#61 LastRambo341
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Soo....you're judging an unfinished game? Also, DMC3 is better because Dante looks better? *thumbs up*
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#62 flashn00b
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

DMC 3 is also on PC...

Hashim19

It was ported later

I refuse to acknlowledge the existence of that god-awful port.

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#63 Hashim19
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

[QUOTE="Hashim19"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

DMC 3 is also on PC...

flashn00b

It was ported later

I refuse to acknlowledge the existence of that god-awful port.

This and Resident evil 4 port ..
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#64 Hashim19
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Soo....you're judging an unfinished game? Also, DMC3 is better because Dante looks better? *thumbs up*

Dmc is all about cool character dante but they mess up whole thing ... What is metal gear solid with out snake ?
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#65 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Hashim19"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

DMC 3 is also on PC...

flashn00b

It was ported later

I refuse to acknlowledge the existence of that god-awful port.

What god awful port are you talking about? Because surely you don´t mean DMC4,wich is every bit as good as the console versions and still has extra eclusive content on the PC.

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#66 flashn00b
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[QUOTE="flashn00b"]

[QUOTE="Hashim19"] It was ported laterArach666

I refuse to acknlowledge the existence of that god-awful port.

What god awful port are you talking about? Because surely you don´t mean DMC4,wich is every bit as good as the console versions and still has extra eclusive content on the PC.

DMC4 is by far one of the best console to PC ports I've seen, but I can't say the same thing about Devil May Cry 3.

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#67 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="flashn00b"]

I refuse to acknlowledge the existence of that god-awful port.

flashn00b

What god awful port are you talking about? Because surely you don´t mean DMC4,wich is every bit as good as the console versions and still has extra eclusive content on the PC.

DMC4 is by far one of the best console to PC ports I've seen, but I can't say the same thing about Devil May Cry 3.

Oh,I misread,I thought you were talking about DMC4.
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#68 Hashim19
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[QUOTE="flashn00b"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] What god awful port are you talking about? Because surely you don´t mean DMC4,wich is every bit as good as the console versions and still has extra eclusive content on the PC.

Arach666

DMC4 is by far one of the best console to PC ports I've seen, but I can't say the same thing about Devil May Cry 3.

Oh,I misread,I thought you were talking about DMC4.

DMC 3 port is crap but Dmc 4 is fantasitc port ..
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#69 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="flashn00b"]

DMC4 is by far one of the best console to PC ports I've seen, but I can't say the same thing about Devil May Cry 3.

Hashim19

Oh,I misread,I thought you were talking about DMC4.

DMC 3 port is crap but Dmc 4 is fantasitc port ..

The only reason I can't say its a good port is because of mouse support. I mean, really? How can they NOT add mouse support?

Of course I could always play with a controller, but I much rather use my KB/M.

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#70 mavven
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This is DMC: Note the slice of pizza.

Jynxzor

Man, I loved the pizza scene and there is also a pool scene which is great. He was the best Dante in franchise...period

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#71 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="Hashim19"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Soo....you're judging an unfinished game? Also, DMC3 is better because Dante looks better? *thumbs up*

Dmc is all about cool character dante but they mess up whole thing ... What is metal gear solid with out snake ?

No one cares. What matters is the gameplay
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#72 pills4louis
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Soo....you're judging an unfinished game? Also, DMC3 is better because Dante looks better? *thumbs up*LastRambo341
Actually, Dante looked his best in DMC1, or alternatively, DMC4. Dante looked like a prissy Japanese boy band member in DMC3, but DMC5's "Dante" (I use quotation marks since this character is for some reason named Dante, and the game is for some reason titled DmC, when it has nothing to do with Devil May Cry or its trademarked Dante character) looks like a horrible trashy American (or Euro, or otherwise western) goth band lead singer. Or perhaps bassist. Regardless, while I can't speak for everyone ITT, aesthetics are not my chief reason for dismissing this new game as utter BS. Rather, it's because of the 3rd-rate development team, Ninja Theory, even being allowed to touch Capcom's flagship over-the-top action series, much less design a game within it. Screw Heavenly Sword, screw Enslaved, and screw putting faith in anyone who is responsible for both of those things.

No one cares. What matters is the gameplayLastRambo341
I take it you didn't play Enslaved or Heavenly Sword, if you're defending any possible sort of quality gameplay from DmC's developer. Either that or you'd just be willing to settle for less. The first game arguably saved 3D action gaming, renewing it as a viable genre. God of War? Ninja Gaiden Black? Bayonetta? We wouldn't have these things if not for DMC1. It broke the mold which constricted the genre; a mold which "DmC" seems to be slipping right back into. Comfortably. Backpeddling into the very reasons the action genre needed saving in the first place. Mostly? Bland gameplay, bland environments, bland enemy designs, bland character designs, and on a somewhat less important note but still relevant: a very unentertaining main character which the player will have to either ragequit because of or just deal with. Sort of like DMC2. Oh wait.

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#73 insanewolfninja
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Soo....you're judging an unfinished game? Also, DMC3 is better because Dante looks better? *thumbs up*pills4louis

Actually, Dante looked his best in DMC1, or alternatively, DMC4. Dante looked like a prissy Japanese boy band member in DMC3, but DMC5's "Dante" (I use quotation marks since this character is for some reason named Dante, and the game is for some reason titled DmC, when it has nothing to do with Devil May Cry or its trademarked Dante character) looks like a horrible trashy American (or Euro, or otherwise western) goth band lead singer. Or perhaps bassist. Regardless, while I can't speak for everyone ITT, aesthetics are not my chief reason for dismissing this new game as utter BS. Rather, it's because of the 3rd-rate development team, Ninja Theory, even being allowed to touch Capcom's flagship over-the-top action series, much less design a game within it. Screw Heavenly Sword, screw Enslaved, and screw putting faith in anyone who is responsible for both of those things.

No one cares. What matters is the gameplayLastRambo341
I take it you didn't play Enslaved or Heavenly Sword, if you're defending any possible sort of quality gameplay from DmC's developer. Either that or you'd just be willing to settle for less. The first game arguably saved 3D action gaming, renewing it as a viable genre. God of War? Ninja Gaiden Black? Bayonetta? We wouldn't have these things if not for DMC1. It broke the mold which constricted the genre; a mold which "DmC" seems to be slipping right back into. Comfortably. Backpeddling into the very reasons the action genre needed saving in the first place. Mostly? Bland gameplay, bland environments, bland enemy designs, bland character designs, and on a somewhat less important note but still relevant: a very unentertaining main character which the player will have to either ragequit because of or just deal with. Sort of like DMC2. Oh wait.

The truth................... you speak it
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#74 Jynxzor
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] No one cares. What matters is the gameplay

If by No one cares, you mean alot of people actually care then I agree. Considering you obviously don't, let me point out to you that you will actually be hard pressed to find anyone who actually think that even the gameplay is looking good. Capcom let a developer touch a franchise that has been known for over the top action and style. The series Oooozes cheesy style and action, it's a cheif reason people play it. "Ninja Theory" So were not only going to dull down the charatcer to unrecognizable levels, let's slow down the combat, reduce the colour pallet of the enemies to white and brown, and throw in a lack of weapons for "Dante" to boot. I swear someone at Capcom is getting a kick out of destroying the franchises that made them top dog back in the day.
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[QUOTE="Hashim19"][QUOTE="Arach666"] Oh,I misread,I thought you were talking about DMC4.ChubbyGuy40

DMC 3 port is crap but Dmc 4 is fantasitc port ..

The only reason I can't say its a good port is because of mouse support. I mean, really? How can they NOT add mouse support?

Of course I could always play with a controller, but I much rather use my KB/M.

...

Care to divulge as to how this would work? DMC4 was a straight-up action game, designed with analog control in mind. Not a third-person shooter. I realize KB/M is objectively superior for many genres such as FPS, RTS, and MMORPGs, but DMC without analog control? For one, a mouse would do you no good due to predetermined camera angles, and two... if you want a great example of how horribly a formerly-analog-controlled, 3rd-person game translates into 8-way digital controls (which you'd get with a D-pad, or in your case, a keyboard), go play Super Mario 64 DS. Protip: You'll wish you hadn't.

Also, 'sup insanewolfninja. Nice to know someone out there found my tangent to be worth reading. :lol:

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#76 LastRambo341
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For those who replied to me... So in conclusion and in a summary?
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#77 Hatiko
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Soo....you're judging an unfinished game? Also, DMC3 is better because Dante looks better? *thumbs up*Hashim19
Dmc is all about cool character dante but they mess up whole thing ... What is metal gear solid with out snake ?

MGS3?

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#78 pills4louis
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For those who replied to me... So in conclusion and in a summary?LastRambo341
I already explained in detal exactly why this new "DmC" game is doomed.

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#79 Hashim19
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[QUOTE="Hashim19"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Soo....you're judging an unfinished game? Also, DMC3 is better because Dante looks better? *thumbs up*Hatiko

Dmc is all about cool character dante but they mess up whole thing ... What is metal gear solid with out snake ?

MGS3?

MGS 3 is all about snake have you ever played it :o
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#80 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]For those who replied to me... So in conclusion and in a summary?pills4louis

I already explained in detal exactly why this new "DmC" game is doomed.

I wanna read the shorter version, your previous post is just way too long :S
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#81 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="flashn00b"]

I refuse to acknlowledge the existence of that god-awful port.

flashn00b

What god awful port are you talking about? Because surely you don´t mean DMC4,wich is every bit as good as the console versions and still has extra eclusive content on the PC.

DMC4 is by far one of the best console to PC ports I've seen, but I can't say the same thing about Devil May Cry 3.

It's really too bad that the game that is far worse gets the better port. I honestly don't even think DMC4 is worth playing.

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#82 ArchoNils2
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There are only very few who would disagree and DMC3 has a big chance of being the best DMC ever with the route the series takes -.-'

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#83 Hashim19
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[QUOTE="flashn00b"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] What god awful port are you talking about? Because surely you don´t mean DMC4,wich is every bit as good as the console versions and still has extra eclusive content on the PC.

GreySeal9

DMC4 is by far one of the best console to PC ports I've seen, but I can't say the same thing about Devil May Cry 3.

It's really too bad that the game that is far worse gets the better port. I honestly don't even think DMC4 is worth playing.

DMC 4 is the most repitative game i have ever played same bosses same levels ahh and nero lol
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Thats because DMC3 was awesome and probably the best the series will ever offer

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#85 Hatiko
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[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="Hashim19"] Dmc is all about cool character dante but they mess up whole thing ... What is metal gear solid with out snake ?Hashim19

MGS3?

MGS 3 is all about snake have you ever played it :o

It's about Naked Snake, aka Big Boss. Yes I have played it.

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#86 Lucianu
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That's like saying that having 1 ton of gold is better than having 1$, what's up with that. DMC3 is one of the, if not the best action - hack 'n slash game ever made.

The developers have also spit on the franchise and fanbase numerous times, that alone proves to me that they are not worthy to even mention the name.

Capcom has always done crazy things, they are incredibly unpredictable. But if this new DmC succeeds (in the fanbase hearts also), then i swear i will put myself on youtube, dancing naked and singing 'I'm a pretty lady'.

God is my witness.

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#87 CajunShooter
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People shouldn't put blame on Ninja Theory but on Capcom. Ninja Theory wanted to make DMC another traditional Devil May Cry and Dante to look like his old self, but Capcom refused their initial pitches and told them they wanted them to take it in a new direction.

This Dante is created by Ninja Theory, but was given the green light by Capcom after turning down more traditional looking Dantes.

If you want to blame anyone blame Capcom, not the developer that has to do what Capcom is telling them to do with the franchise.

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#88 Lucianu
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People shouldn't put blame on Ninja Theory but on Capcom. Ninja Theory wanted to make DMC another traditional Devil May Cry and Dante to look like his old self, but Capcom refused their initial pitches and told them they wanted them to take it in a new direction.

This Dante is created by Ninja Theory, but was given the green light by Capcom after turning down more traditional looking Dantes.

If you want to blame anyone blame Capcom, not the developer that has to do what Capcom is telling them to do with the franchise.

CajunShooter

Then why did Ninja Theory spit on the franchise and on its fanbase? If you were in the dark regarding that, i'll google a couple of links..

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"Capcom are heavily involved in the development of all it's IP being worked upon by outside parties," the publisher's European head of marketing said in a post on the game's official forum.

"When searching for developers to work for Capcom look for companies who skills match up with our own. It's a perfect marriage of talent and ideas. "Ninja Theory [is] renowned for the quality of [its] production everything from motion capture, scripting, design and performance, areas perhaps that Capcom [has] been criticised [for] over the past few years?

Capcom bring[s] to the table years of experience with design of fighting systems, characters and the little things that make Devil May Cry, well Devil May Cry. "Combine all the best elements of Capcom and Ninja Theory you will have one of the greatest DMC titles ever created… and that people is what we're working towards."

http://www.vg247.com/2011/03/07/capcom-dmc-to-be-one-of-the-greatest-devil-may-cry-games/

So to all those scared about the gameplay, apparently Capcom has their hands all over that part of the game.

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The game is far from being released and we don't know anything for sure other than a quick gameplay video and the art design, now with that being said, i think that the game will suck, the developer team is awful, i doubt they will be able to capture the feeling of a true DMC game, they should call this game Emo Dante vs the World, the art is horrible and the glimpse of gameplay was painful to watch.

IMO DMC5 has been already released and is the best action game of this gen, it was made by the man himself Hideki Kamiya and it's called Bayonetta.

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#91 hayato_
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This game is gonna own so many haters if done correctly, either way I'm thinking it might be a buy since Heavenly Sword and Enslaved weren't terrible games :? . Its something new and we all know the public hates change rather than embrance it no matter. So much over reaction though is kind of sad. Its a developers take on a franchise that isn't even theres. I don't believe its "killing" a franchise, rather some developer wanted to take a concept and do a spin on it. Nothing wrong with that and it keeps gaming fresh imo, especially than doing some rehash. Either way people are gonna find anything to hate on, whether this "new" Dante or the "old" Dante was in it appearance wise.

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Obviously its better. Sequels always go downhill.

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#93 Lucianu
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This game is gonna own so many haters if done correctly, either way I'm thinking it might be a buy since Heavenly Sword and Enslaved weren't terrible games :? . Its something new and we all know the public hates change rather than embrance it no matter. So much over reaction though is kind of sad. Its a developers take on a franchise that isn't even theres. I don't believe its "killing" a franchise, rather some developer wanted to take a concept and do a spin on it. Nothing wrong with that and it keeps gaming fresh imo, especially than doing some rehash. Either way people are gonna find anything to hate on, whether this "new" Dante or the "old" Dante was in it appearance wise.

hayato_

I have hope, because i cannot ignore the fact that Capcom has always done crazy things, unpredicted by anyone, and somehow managed trough all of it.I would love for it to succeed.

But even i know that the argument of it sucking is solid, and it's not about change. Read peoples arguments instead of ignoring them and labeling them as 'being afraid of change'. That's what i've seen some moderators do in Capcom's forums, they are not writting for nothing afterall.

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#94 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

This game is gonna own so many haters if done correctly, either way I'm thinking it might be a buy since Heavenly Sword and Enslaved weren't terrible games :? . Its something new and we all know the public hates change rather than embrance it no matter. So much over reaction though is kind of sad. Its a developers take on a franchise that isn't even theres. I don't believe its "killing" a franchise, rather some developer wanted to take a concept and do a spin on it. Nothing wrong with that and it keeps gaming fresh imo, especially than doing some rehash. Either way people are gonna find anything to hate on, whether this "new" Dante or the "old" Dante was in it appearance wise.

Lucianu

I have hope, because i cannot ignore the fact that Capcom has always done crazy things, unpredicted by anyone, and somehow managed trough all of it.I would love for it to succeed.

But even i know that the argument of it sucking is solid, and it's not about change. Read peoples arguments instead of ignoring them and labeling them as 'being afraid of change'. That's what i've seen some petty moderators do in Capcom's forums, they are not writting for nothing afterall.

I didn't say being afraid of change was the only factor throughout this new imagination. Sucking based on what? A trailer and an unfinished look at gameplay? No one has even seen a nearly completed version of the game and yet people are being so petty on trivial things, but that is my opinion on the subject of a game thats not really close to coming out.
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#95 Lucianu
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I didn't say being afraid of change was the only factor throughout this new imagination. Sucking based on what? A trailer and an unfinished look at gameplay? No one has even seen a nearly completed version of the game and yet people are being so petty on trivial things, but that is my opinion on the subject of a game thats not really close to coming out.hayato_

Sucking based on what others argumented that has nothing to do with being afraid of change, it would be a far more interesting read to argue with them than ignoring them, wouldn't it?

I don't think they are over reacting or presenting petty arguments. Fanbases that presented solid arguments against X games that worried them have ben right regarding a good number of these said games recently (Crysis 2, Dragon Age 2, etc.). Though ofcourse some were wrong and blew expectations trough the roof top. I think their arguments are solid aswell.

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#96 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"] I didn't say being afraid of change was the only factor throughout this new imagination. Sucking based on what? A trailer and an unfinished look at gameplay? No one has even seen a nearly completed version of the game and yet people are being so petty on trivial things, but that is my opinion on the subject of a game thats not really close to coming out.Lucianu

Sucking based on what others argumented that has nothing to do with being afraid of change, it would be a far more interesting read to argue with them than ignoring them, wouldn't it?

I don't think they are over reacting or presenting petty arguments. Fanbases that presented solid arguments against X games that worried them have ben right regarding a good number of these said games recently (Crysis 2, Dragon Age 2, etc.). Though ofcourse some were wrong and blew expectations trough the roof top. I think their arguments are solid aswell.

If you read earlier, I mentioned it was one of many factors, not the only one. I have no qualms over people disagreeing with said things. Its their opinion, but some of the factors are questionable at such an early time in development is all I'm saying.

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People shouldn't put blame on Ninja Theory but on Capcom. Ninja Theory wanted to make DMC another traditional Devil May Cry and Dante to look like his old self, but Capcom refused their initial pitches and told them they wanted them to take it in a new direction.

This Dante is created by Ninja Theory, but was given the green light by Capcom after turning down more traditional looking Dantes.

If you want to blame anyone blame Capcom, not the developer that has to do what Capcom is telling them to do with the franchise.

CajunShooter

I do blame Capcom but NT should not go free either after the interviews they gave where they called Dante uncool and the franchise outdated. How the hell can Capcom give the game to such pig-headed devs is beyond me. And the drastic change is only that the game looks like a budget DMC clone. There is really no change apart from the main character which doesn't make sense at all, the gameplay itself is not much of a departure but am certain is going to be worse considering it's being done on the unreal engine. A DMC at half the speed and most likely less going by NT experience, this game is the fanbases worst dream. Capcom could definitely make a better DMC game but with all their talent gone it seems they have become extremely lazy.

This game is gonna own so many haters if done correctly, either way I'm thinking it might be a buy since Heavenly Sword and Enslaved weren't terrible games :? . Its something new and we all know the public hates change rather than embrance it no matter. So much over reaction though is kind of sad. Its a developers take on a franchise that isn't even theres. I don't believe its "killing" a franchise, rather some developer wanted to take a concept and do a spin on it. Nothing wrong with that and it keeps gaming fresh imo, especially than doing some rehash. Either way people are gonna find anything to hate on, whether this "new" Dante or the "old" Dante was in it appearance wise.

hayato_

Way to blame the gamers and not the developers. Yes the poor angelic devs can do no wrong >_> Gamers embrace change but not all change is good. RE4? Good change. Silent Hill 4? Bad change. For every good change that has been made to franchises there have always been bad decisions as well. It's best to listen to the early signs and so far the evidence suggest that DmC is not only in awful hands but will likely be the worst in the franchise, I mean it runs at half the speed! not even DMC2 did that. Seriously dude don't lower your standards for a DMC game, Capcom knows they can do better but are just being lazy. The longer this cruddy DmC is in development the longer we have to wait for a proper DMC title.

If that isn't bad enough, this DmC is going to get a movie to accompany the release, a friggen movie tie-in! it's nothing but a lame attempt to please western gamers who are not familiar with DMC.

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So to all those scared about the gameplay, apparently Capcom has their hands all over that part of the game.CajunShooter
Considering recent events I'm not sure I would trust Capcom with their own IP either.
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#100 Swift_Boss_A
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IMO DMC5 has been already released and is the best action game of this gen, it was made by the man himself Hideki Kamiya and it's called Bayonetta.

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Bayonetta is just too floaty for me and I don't like the character. I want Hideki Kamiya to create another awesome male lead and the combat being mostly ground based like DMC or NG, emphasis on close quarters fighting. OMG it would be so awesome if SEGA let Kamiya do a Shinobi game. I loved the Shinobi games on the SEGA megadrive so to see the franchise being handled by Kamiya would make me well up with tears of joy.