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#1 black_awpN1
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Considering both games reecieved a 8.0 here, tehy are very comparable adn equally awesome. However, which game wins in what area is a differnt Question. So Ive broken the comparison down to Catagories and I gave my personal input. Of course, I, like you, can only give my personal opinon.

Story: Neither game really has a compelling story. both seem very generic, but for some reason I thought NG 2s story was pretty non existant, while DMCs was atleast a little interesting and cool. I jsut liked the DMC franchises storyline more. So this one goes to DMC 4 for me.

DMC 4: 1 NG 2: 0.

Gameplay/Combat: Since combat and Gameplay is pretty much the same in these games, i combined them.: While Both games have great combat Mechanics ( ipersonally love DMCs Style oriented gameplay) I have to give this one to NG 2. The combat is just so Lucid and fluent its like a Ballet of flashing steel and gore. However, teh camerra is a real issue. still its gets teh point

DMC 4: 1 NG2: 1

Graphics: now heres where Im going to get alot of flak. Both games look great, but NG 2, to me, dosent seem like a massive improvement ove rthe otehr iterations. Its looks nice, but I jsut found DMC 4 to be a Bigger Upgrade than NG 2 was in graphics (im comparing NG 2 to NG 1 and DMC 4 to DMC3 to be fair to both) NG2s characters jsut look to shiny and plasticy, while DMCs characters look more realistic. So DMC 4 gets the point.

DMC 4: 2 NG 2: 1

Challenge: Honestly, how could I not give this to NG 2. Its really one fo the gmaes wehre your either good at it, or you jsut get Owned over and over again. Its very Challenging, which is a blessing and a curse. I fell like I could Dispatch enemies with realtive ease in DMC 4, while with NG 2 I have to think. NG 2 gets teh point:

DMC 4: 2 NG 2: 2

We got a tie so far. Now ehre comes the almost impossible to decide one:

the Fun Factor: Now this is VERY subjective to opinon, so ill let you draw your own conslusions for this one. I thought NG 2 was fun, after dying over and over and over again. this is what I meant when I said NG 2s difficulty is a blessing AND a curse. Quit frankly, if you play this gmae for the first time, you are going to be very frustrated, to teh point where you might not want to play any more. With DMC 4, you have a much greater chance of getting it on teh first try. So for this (Im thinking about the Majority of Gamers) I have to give the point to DMC 4. Please dont flame me.

So we have DMC 4: 3 NG 2: 2 (of course, the last catagory is subject to opinon, so take it for what you will.)

I was thinking of putting a FPS/Performance Catoagory, but decided it wasnt big enough. If I did, DMC 4 would win that mainly because NG 2s FPS hitches alot when theres alot of people on screen.

So there you have it.

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#2 Animal-Mother
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good break down, enjoyed reading it
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#3 majadamus
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Realism doesn't alway = better graphics. Ninja Gaiden II > Devil May Cry 4.
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#4 Mad_Rhetoric
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story - DMC

Gameplay- NG

Graphics - dmc (although NG has alot more enemies on screen)

challenge - NG

Fun factor - NG

NG wins

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#5 SpinoRaptor
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I kind of prefer NG2 over DMC4.

I still enjoyed DMC4.

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#6 ReverseCycology
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One is more difficult and the character moves so fast that the camera can't handle following it.

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#7 black_awpN1
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story - DMC

Gameplay- NG

Graphics - dmc (although NG has alot more enemies on screen)

challenge - NG

Fun factor - NG

NG wins

Mad_Rhetoric

Again, we can only give opinons. NG isnt really fun off the back unless you KNOW what your doing.

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#8 chikenfriedrice
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story - DMC

Gameplay- NG

Graphics - dmc (although NG has alot more enemies on screen)

challenge - NG

Fun factor - NG

NG wins

Mad_Rhetoric

agreed

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#9 Mad_Rhetoric
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I found dmc too easy, sometimes the enemies just stand there for like 5 seconds waiting for you to hit them.
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#10 f50p90
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One is more difficult and the character moves so fast that the camera can't handle following it.

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The camera can't handle following it? LolWUT:lol:
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#11 black_awpN1
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Im kinda glad to see people not totally disagree with me. We all have Opinons, and Mine is not more Right than yours, adn yours is not more right than mine.
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#12 Mad_Rhetoric
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[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

story - DMC

Gameplay- NG

Graphics - dmc (although NG has alot more enemies on screen)

challenge - NG

Fun factor - NG

NG wins

black_awpN1

Again, we can only give opinons. NG isnt really fun off the back unless you KNOW what your doing.

of course its my opinion, im the one who posted the message
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#13 Veterngamer
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Not a bad breakdown.... but for me NGII >>>>>> DMC4
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#14 lolkie_81
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For some reason I overlooked dmc4, I guess I should go rent it. How long is the first play tru?
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#15 rolo107
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Realism doesn't alway = better graphics. Ninja Gaiden II > Devil May Cry 4. majadamus

Eh wow, that wasn't fanboyism at all..... : |

I agree with TP's assessment, very good.

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#16 black_awpN1
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For some reason I overlooked dmc4, I guess I should go rent it. How long is the first play tru?lolkie_81

I actually beat it in one sitting, but it was a pretty long sitting. I kinda played it non stop all day.

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#17 Drukter
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Well, either you're a casual gamer and dislikes NG or you're a hardcore gamer and likes NG, simple really.
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

One is more difficult and the character moves so fast that the camera can't handle following it.

f50p90

The camera can't handle following it? LolWUT:lol:

Yep Ryu moves so fast its hard to keep up with him, also the level design is open ended while DMC had fixed level designs so the camera doesn't move as much.

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[QUOTE="majadamus"]Realism doesn't alway = better graphics. Ninja Gaiden II > Devil May Cry 4. rolo107

Eh wow, that wasn't fanboyism at all..... : |

I agree with TP's assessment, very good.

hows it fanboyism?
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I agree with you there.
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#21 epic_pets
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Well in my opinion i though ninja gaiden was way funner

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#22 f50p90
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[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

One is more difficult and the character moves so fast that the camera can't handle following it.

ReverseCycology

The camera can't handle following it? LolWUT:lol:

Yep Ryu moves so fast its hard to keep up with him, also the level design is open ended while DMC had fixed level designs so the camera doesn't move as much.

So either Itagaki's team was too incompetent to create a fast enough camera to follow the main character (lol wut? ) or they just left it that way to make it cheap difficult.

It's probably the latter

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#23 lolkie_81
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Well, either you're a casual gamer and dislikes NG or you're a hardcore gamer and likes NG, simple really.Drukter

You can be a *hardcore gamer* that loved ng, and does not like ng2 as much. For a next gen game it is very average.

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[QUOTE="Drukter"]Well, either you're a casual gamer and dislikes NG or you're a hardcore gamer and likes NG, simple really.lolkie_81

You can be a *hardcore gamer* that loved ng, and does not like ng2 as much. For a next gen game it is very average.

WTF are you talking about? both DMC4 and NG2 got the SAME score

gamespot- 8

IGN- 8.7

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#25 Ingenemployee
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OMG, a civil discussion on System Wars:o I thought it was a myth
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[QUOTE="Drukter"]Well, either you're a casual gamer and dislikes NG or you're a hardcore gamer and likes NG, simple really.lolkie_81

You can be a *hardcore gamer* that loved ng, and does not like ng2 as much. For a next gen game it is very average.

Average? Pff. It's the most challenging game this generation, and it's NOT cheap, that's very idiotic to claim. The gameplay is fast and fluid and your success depends on your SKILL. It's a very old schoolish action game, and it didn't drop the ball like DMC4 did. DMC4 is the most disappoint game of this generation.

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#27 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="Drukter"]Well, either you're a casual gamer and dislikes NG or you're a hardcore gamer and likes NG, simple really.Mad_Rhetoric

You can be a *hardcore gamer* that loved ng, and does not like ng2 as much. For a next gen game it is very average.

WTF are you talking about? both DMC4 and NG2 got the SAME score

gamespot- 8

IGN- 8.7

Dmc4 had nothing to do with that post. It was to the hardcore comment.

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#28 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="Drukter"]Well, either you're a casual gamer and dislikes NG or you're a hardcore gamer and likes NG, simple really.Drukter

You can be a *hardcore gamer* that loved ng, and does not like ng2 as much. For a next gen game it is very average.

Average? Pff. It's the most challenging game this generation, and it's NOT cheap, that's very idiotic to claim. The gameplay is fast and fluid and your success depends on your SKILL. It's a very old schoolish action game, and it didn't drop the ball like DMC4 did. DMC4 is the most disappoint game of this generation.

PFF.... Everyone has there opinion. Yes it is cheap. Are you telling me the level 9 boss is not cheap? The camera should zoom out so you could actually see what you are fighting. Where is the skill in that one? Other than a few bosses, I dont think it is cheap. There are a few places that really left a bad taste in my mouth.

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#29 SambaLele
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great post, DMC4 is indeed an overall better than NG2. And that's without counting the camera issues with NG2.
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#30 Drukter
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Again, DMC4 is the biggest disappointment of 2008. I cannot believe that people find it good, seriously, it's so easy. Even Hell or Hell is easier than Warrior mode in NG2. Now I understand why developers are making the games easier, every gamer has lost their balls.
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#31 deactivated-619c4c1a1a382
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But in camera

DMC>NG

im sorry as much as i love NG the camera just sucks

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#32 gohan2710
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and this is why im glad you arent a reviewer....if you cant take the difficulty....then go whine and play your dmc4.....i love dmc4, and i laugh at anyone who dares to compare ng to dmc....mainly because both games are very different in terms of gamplay....if you wanna compare dmc......i suggest u go with god of war....ninja gaiden is a total different game....the fact that the enemies stand there, like dummies, the fact that you cant block, or even move as fast as ryu, the fact that the enemies will not attack you when ur back is turn against them......shows how gimped dmc is compared to ng.......and dmc4 looks more realistic? what a joke
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#33 Dystopian-X
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I've always preferred the DMC series so I'll go with DMC 4.
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#34 Mad_Rhetoric
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But in camera

DMC>NG

im sorry as much as i love NG the camera just sucks

wdave92
bearly, atleast with NG's 3D camera enemies won't jump off screen as it is when DMC4's camera switches to fixed perspective
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#35 peacenutman
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Why don't we just check what Metacritics have to say?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/ninjagaiden2?q=ninja%20gaiden

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/devilmaycry4?q=devil%20may%20cry%204

84%>81%, clearly DMC4 wins.

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#36 signore
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I agree with you there.EuroMafia

never played NG2, but sigma was just mindless hack and slashing. Although cheesy, at least DMC can be kinda funny and is a lot cooler.

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Again, DMC4 is the biggest disappointment of 2008. I cannot believe that people find it good, seriously, it's so easy. Even Hell or Hell is easier than Warrior mode in NG2. Now I understand why developers are making the games easier, every gamer has lost their balls.Drukter

Wow, your just as ignorant as Itagaki. A game doesn't have to kick your ass to the point of exhaustion to be good.

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[QUOTE="Drukter"]Again, DMC4 is the biggest disappointment of 2008. I cannot believe that people find it good, seriously, it's so easy. Even Hell or Hell is easier than Warrior mode in NG2. Now I understand why developers are making the games easier, every gamer has lost their balls.Dark_Knight6

Wow, your just as ignorant as Itagaki. A game doesn't have to kick your ass to the point of exhaustion to be good.

Well said.

But then again NG is never hard, just spam Flying Swallow and carry TONS of Spirit Elixirs, which are cheap and easy to find. On the other hand, you can barely find healing items in DMC, you have to buy them, and they get more expensive each time you buy one.

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NG 2 is better then DMC 4, its more badass
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#40 krunkfu2
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[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

story - DMC

Gameplay- NG

Graphics - dmc (although NG has alot more enemies on screen)

challenge - NG

Fun factor - NG

NG wins

black_awpN1

Again, we can only give opinons. NG isnt really fun off the back unless you KNOW what your doing.

if you're playing NGII you should know what you're doing.

The game is pure fan service; nothing more.

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#41 black_awpN1
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NG 2 is better then DMC 4, its more badassCubs360

Eh, I always thought of Dnate as more of a badass. That title was cemented the time he Rode a Missile like a Surf board in 3.

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#42 L1qu1dSword
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[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

story - DMC

Gameplay- NG

Graphics - dmc (although NG has alot more enemies on screen)

challenge - NG

Fun factor - NG

NG wins

chikenfriedrice

agreed

i third that

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#43 jeezers
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NG 2 is better then DMC 4, its more badassCubs360

i was thinking this as well.

Seriously i love ninja gaiden 2, i love the boss battles, i love upgrading my weapons, i love slicing my foes in half and gutting them alive, im on chapter 10 right now, im hooked. btw "ive only seen the framerate slow down once the whole time ive been playing, and it had like 50 enemies on screen at once while climbing a staircase"

dmc4 was ok, but was kind of slow paced compared to ninja gaiden, dmc4 seemed alot easier as well, gotta love nimpo and and cutting off heads, im goin with NG2 "how ever dmc4 has a better camera"

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#44 jeezers
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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]NG 2 is better then DMC 4, its more badassblack_awpN1

Eh, I always thought of Dnate as more of a badass. That title was cemented the time he Rode a Missile like a Surf board in 3.

ya but ryu jumps out of helicopters on a motor cycle,, just to land on his feet while doing a flip, then fighting a 80 foot magma monster right after.

plus he opens everything by kicking it, door,chests you name it. UAAAAA "kick"

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#45 -RocBoys9489-
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I liked NG2 a lot, why is it not AAA? :(
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#46 ArisShadows
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From playing both, I enjoyed NG2. I may even buy it eventually down the road after all my big bigs out of the ways.
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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]NG 2 is better then DMC 4, its more badassblack_awpN1

Eh, I always thought of Dnate as more of a badass. That title was cemented the time he Rode a Missile like a Surf board in 3.

Next to Ryu Dante seems more cheesey then badass.

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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

[QUOTE="Cubs360"]NG 2 is better then DMC 4, its more badassL1qu1dSword

Eh, I always thought of Dnate as more of a badass. That title was cemented the time he Rode a Missile like a Surf board in 3.

Next to Ryu Dante seems more cheesey then badass.

Atleast Dante is funny. Ryu just says like a sentence and thats it. Id chose smartass over Mute anyday.
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]I agree with you there.signore

never played NG2, but sigma was just mindless hack and slashing. Although cheesy, at least DMC can be kinda funny and is a lot cooler.



we are talking about ninja gaiden not god of war.
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[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

[QUOTE="Cubs360"]NG 2 is better then DMC 4, its more badassblack_awpN1

Eh, I always thought of Dnate as more of a badass. That title was cemented the time he Rode a Missile like a Surf board in 3.

Next to Ryu Dante seems more cheesey then badass.

Atleast Dante is funny. Ryu just says like a sentence and thats it. Id chose smartass over Mute anyday.

If I chose a bodyguard, I'd choose Ryu anyday.