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PS1 & PS2 succeeded and trumped the competition......all without popularizing Online (or charging for it), and focused more on the Core gaming market, the single player experience, and bonding with 3rd party developers. PSN would inevitably come to frutition even without MS in the picture, since Sony was ALSO developing PCs/Laptops at the time and the idea of broadband online gaming would eventually come true.
So yeah. As much as I love my 360 (but not over my PS3), MS is really that "3rd Wheel" in this industry. Imo. The few things that MS really really provided the gaming industry are:
- popularizing online MP gaming (leading to half-ss SP experiences in most games today)
- and charging for it
- streamlining that Online MP experience (and charging for it)
- Halo (popularizing the console FPS experience)
- mind phucking morons into buying XBL Gold, just to experience a streamlined MP Online service
Just my opinion, of course :cool::lol:;):lol:
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You have a very lovely rose tinted view of Sony don't you :P.Sony tried to get the old PlayStation 2 online but it was quite the miserable failure from what I heard. I can only think it was awful from my experiences of the PlayStation 3s online which obviously should have been better than whatever they had on the PS2. So I think its safe to say, without Microsofts intervention, the PlayStation 3s online would have been woeful for many years. I have not seen the PS3 UI in about 2 or 3 years so I am not sure if they have updated it, but the whole communitity part is terrible. The online store was horrible, it was just crap. Plain and simple.
So with respect to your list; here is my version of your list.
1. Popularising quite honestly the most important and industry making move in recent console history. Xbox live has brought millions of gamers together. It has created online communities where people can sit in their pants infront of their big screen tv, and play games with their friends. Its not Microsofts fault that developers and their managers saw how many more people wanted to play online rather than a story. Admidtly I would say the market is still there for single player but single player in previous generations is rather primitive and would be classed as overly simple by todays standards.
2. Charging for online is a big debate. It has given Microsoft extra money and nobody aside from the PC platform can match them in online support and general great experience. There is no argument when deciding who gives the better experience. Also Sony has started charging for online things as well... yet zero mention of things like that. Plus must we forget Home, where you would buy clothes for your avatar with real money... that was before Microsoft decided to do that with its own avatars.
3. Again they give a supperior experienc Bar the PC platform. People vote with their wallets.
4. A positive, shocking. But also providing gamers with alternative titles that challenge Sonys best. Sony doesnt have a 3rd person shooter that is equal to gears, Sonys racing giant is arguably worse than Forza 4, Sony lacked for most of the gen any real multiplat support that rivaled microsofts console. In all honesty, you buy a Playstation 3 for the exclusives, because sadly they are the only company now really pushing for anything new.
5. Sony fails to create any sort of decent online platform and allows major competitor to offer a service which customers have to pay for. I say again, people voted with their wallets.
So with that, its been Sony who has been the third wheel for the majority of this Gen. They failed to truely capatalise against a console that literally set on fire in peoples houses, who had to pay excessive amounts for things like the wireless, they won in the platform war, they had by far the largest market share ever leading into this generation... yet somehow ended up last. Sony has provided us with the most gimicks this generation, all of which have failed nicely :P
Allow me to retort to your distorted view on PS:
- Online for PS2 was never perfect nor was it a failure, and it never detered PS2 gamers from enjoying games like SOCOM or Twisted Metal Black. And as I mentioned, PS2 was more focused on the SP-Coop offline gaming experience, more than enough to trump the living hell outta XBOX (and GC).
- Since you seem to be living under a rock, PS3's UI have been updated. As far as the community goes, I haven't use online enough, but the times I've actually experienced with it, so far the community is very sane, without rabid mics pumping out racist homophobic remarks. And I'm not even talking about the teenie-weenie boppers under 20 years old.
- The saturated surplus of Online Centric multiplayer is exactly what is wrong with most games today. It's become too formulaic and common, it's gotten developers blinded from creativity. Some online games have been done very well (Planetside, WoW, etc), and not saying MP online should be condemned, but there should be a fair balance. You may not like it, but the SP experience remains to be the core in any gaming experience, whether its a racing game, rpg, a platformer, action/adventure, sports games, or FPS.
- Charging online is exactly what MS wants.....your money. What could possibly be the most basic gaming option in gaming today, simply getting online JUST to play multiplayer, should be free. Charging for online is not only extortion, but also denies your basic right to play the MP portion in your game you've paid so much money for. It's absurd what MS is doing. Smart business, yes. But nonetheless, it's robbery, if you look at it from a different perspective, something Lemmings can't seem to grasp. Also unlike MS, PSN+ is just an extra with more perks to satisfy PSN users. Don't like it? Gamers can go back to standard PSN and STILL be able to PLAY MP, all without a charge. PSN is not perfect but it gets the job done. ;)
- As far as Sony's games, that's your opinion. Looking at it from a gamer's perspective, Sony's games are of top quality. But they get so much hate simply for fanboyish jelly reasons. And 3rd party development is strong with PS3 and all PS platforms. Multiplats compared to 360 are becoming clearly trivial. Those who are nitpicking, frankly need to get a life.
So with that said, the PS platform is here to stay, whether sad miserable fanboys like it or not. They've been in the game for a long time to garner a strong community and fanbase. Sony is really the only company that knows it's core market, without getting tooooooo caught up with the non-gaming casual market, a market that has already moved on to other platforms. Which explains why the MOVE isn't too heavily marketed because as I said, Sony knows it's core market are more important. Sony has managed to gain much support with thier Bluray format by big Hollywood studios, wiping the hell out of HD-DVD, a format heavily supported by MS. Sony, despite having a weak and expensive launch, has managed to improve on PS3 sales, closing in on 360's, and garner a strong exclusive support from 3rd parties and 1st party studios.
So no, I don't think Sony is the 3rd wheel :cool:
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