do you consider rushing in a rts game cheating

i know a lot of people rush in rts games but it seems the cheap way to win. Even when i win by rushing my opponent i feal like i cheated

Hahaha...no. If you can't defend against a rush then stop playing RTS games.

When it could be seen as cheating it is normally a blacning problem. Such as one side having a unit that could be made faster than it could be counted. But other times it is just people whining that they did not build up their defensives or not scouting the enemy base to see the rush coming.

When people rush in base building RTS games it's embarasing whether they win or not. I mean what are they doing? I have a defensive advantage, you have the same ratio of forces, who's more likely to win here? But no, generally it's not cheating unless it can be abused with fast moving units, but for that to be the case they need to be way way overpowered, and that's a design flaw. I just can't stand it when people rush at the very start of a game though, it's a broken strategy and it's a waste of a game/match.

Note: When I'm talking about rushing I mean like at the very beggining, an actual proper rush that has been well planed can be used tactically and is often required for victory.

When it could be seen as cheating it is normally a balancing problem. Such as one side having a unit that could be made faster than it could be counted. But other times it is just people whining that they did not build up their defensives or not scouting the enemy base to see the rush coming.

Chaos_HL21

This. Pretty much sums it all.

Hahaha...no. If you can't defend against a rush then stop playing RTS games.

Ross_the_B0SS

dont some rts tournaments have a no rush rule

The greatest RTS rush ever:

ZERG RUSH!!!!!!!

dont some rts tournaments have a no rush rule

EmperorZeruel

No. If there is an unbalanced unit or unfair tactic (*cough* Arbiter Rush in Halo Wars *cough*), I don't think it is cool to abuse it.II-FBIsniper-II

If rushing is really the most effective tactic, then you should utilize rushing until you learn or lose to someone who knows how to effectively counter rushes.

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dont some rts tournaments have a no rush rule

II-FBIsniper-II

i remember seeing one a few years ago, which had a no rush rule, but i havent realy played a rts game in a few years dont know why they are cool games.

Also i have won matches with rushing and it dont seem much like a victory

:lol: would you rather every game be 2-4 hours long?

i'm only stating that because everything else has already been sumed up in the thread

dont some rts tournaments have a no rush rule

EmperorZeruel

Yeah, too many fights broke out over differing tastes in music.

:lol: would you rather every game be 2-4 hours long?

i'm only stating that because everything else has already been sumed up in the thread

Mr_Apple_Soup

4 hour long RTS match = Epic. Not very convient, but amazing none the less.

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:lol: would you rather every game be 2-4 hours long?

i'm only stating that because everything else has already been sumed up in the thread

Ek-Andy

4 hour long RTS match = Epic. Not very convient, but amazing none the less.

well yes i agree, win or lose after the match is over my reaction is usually something like "Woah..." but if every match was like that? no thankkk youuuu, it would just be too much

The greatest RTS rush ever:

ZERG RUSH!!!!!!!

CTUDude

:lol:

No, absolutely not.

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:lol: would you rather every game be 2-4 hours long?

i'm only stating that because everything else has already been sumed up in the thread

4 hour long RTS match = Epic. Not very convient, but amazing none the less.

well yes i agree, win or lose after the match is over my reaction is usually something like "Woah..." but if every match was like that? no thankkk youuuu, it would just be too much

not at all its in the game for a reason and if the developers wanted to take it out they would just put a fifteen minute timer or something in the game before you could make an attack

The greatest RTS rush ever:

ZERG RUSH!!!!!!!

Rushing is a valid and even encouraged technyouique. If you cant defend against it well then you deserve to get owned by it.

If so, I guess Germany was cheating during WW1 and 2 and should've been reported to the mods by Belgium...

If so, I guess Germany was cheating during WW1 and 2 and should've been reported to the mods by Belgium...

MetroidPrimePwn

I think the Germans were also using hacks, no way they could of build so much in such little time.

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If so, I guess Germany was cheating during WW1 and 2 and should've been reported to the mods by Belgium...

Chaos_HL21

I think the Germans were also using hacks, no way they could of build so much in such little time.

You know who was really hacking?

America.

How the **** do you get from a Great Depression and not having enough guns for your 500,000 soldier army to having freaking nukes?

Freakin' sploitin', that's how.

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If so, I guess Germany was cheating during WW1 and 2 and should've been reported to the mods by Belgium...

MetroidPrimePwn

I think the Germans were also using hacks, no way they could of build so much in such little time.

You know who was really hacking?

America.

How the **** do you get from a Great Depression and not having enough guns for your 500,000 soldier army to having freaking nukes?

Freakin' sploitin', that's how.

That was pure skill, FDR was so leet, he got madz skillz. :P

But seriously Rushing is only a part of the game, Unless there are blancing problems with the units, losing to a rush is your own fault. Scout the enemy base, and know if the enemy is sending a rush at you.

The greatest RTS rush ever:

ZERG RUSH!!!!!!!

The greatest RTS rush ever:

ZERG RUSH!!!!!!!

If so, I guess Germany was cheating during WW1 and 2 and should've been reported to the mods by Belgium...

MetroidPrimePwn

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If so, I guess Germany was cheating during WW1 and 2 and should've been reported to the mods by Belgium...

EmperorZeruel

I don't think any Japanese where brough up on Warcrimes from attacking Pearl. I may be wrong. Surpriseattacking Pearl Harbor is fairly small compared to the other warcrimes committed by the Japanese.

No but I suck at RTS games and it pisses me off when my friends rush me :evil:

The greatest RTS rush ever:

ZERG RUSH!!!!!!!

CTUDude

who/what the hell is the zerg? :P

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The greatest RTS rush ever:

ZERG RUSH!!!!!!!

who/what the hell is the zerg? :P

:lol: would you rather every game be 2-4 hours long?

i'm only stating that because everything else has already been sumed up in the thread

Mr_Apple_Soup

....yes?

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:lol: would you rather every game be 2-4 hours long?

i'm only stating that because everything else has already been sumed up in the thread

JangoWuzHere

....yes?

and you have that kind of time...?

[QUOTE="CTUDude"][QUOTE="Serraph105"] eh just have some photon canons ready and smile at the piles of blood your opponent just made for himselfSerraph105

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:lol: would you rather every game be 2-4 hours long?

i'm only stating that because everything else has already been sumed up in the thread

Mr_Apple_Soup

....yes?

and you have that kind of time...?

No. If there is an unbalanced unit or unfair tactic (*cough* Arbiter Rush in Halo Wars *cough*), I don't think it is cool to abuse it.II-FBIsniper-II

thats me all day...!

All you have to do is build a whole bunch of ground infantry right off the bat and itll do the job

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....yes?

JangoWuzHere

and you have that kind of time...?

Im sorry but i have a life. Get in, get out, get the win, the end!

No. Rushing is one strategy. If your enemy does not bolster defenses early, that is his weak spot, and you exploit it. If he defended well and you rush, you expose yourself and he loses the advantage. Its the purpose of RTS.

No. If there is an unbalanced unit or unfair tactic (*cough* Arbiter Rush in Halo Wars *cough*), I don't think it is cool to abuse it.II-FBIsniper-II

Wow, really? If you can't stop the Arbiter that's your fault. I've done it plenty of times and even when I use Arbiter, the good players know how to stop it.

I hate when people cry about cheating. It's your lack of skill. If you're going to cry, cry about something that is not balanced. Almost everything in every game can be countered, people just have this stupid honor code so they instead just cry about it.

No it's not cheating just like how camping is a perfectly legitimate tactic to use in FPS. IF you get rushed and you lose, it's your fault. Block the entrance to your base ASAP.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]No. If there is an unbalanced unit or unfair tactic (*cough* Arbiter Rush in Halo Wars *cough*), I don't think it is cool to abuse it.RobNBankz

Wow, really? If you can't stop the Arbiter that's your fault. I've done it plenty of times and even when I use Arbiter, the good players know how to stop it.

I hate when people cry about cheating. It's your lack of skill. If you're going to cry, cry about something that is not balanced. Almost everything in every game can be countered, people just have this stupid honor code so they instead just cry about it.