Do you consider the Wii to be equal?

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

The only thing the Wii is nearly on par with is the Gamecube, and even that... it falls short on one big key concept: games - the Wii just doesn't have much.

It's like having two sports cars, and then you have the Prius. It's simply just... different.

Stevo_the_gamer

In what ways would you compare the Wii and the GC?

Its been that way even before the GC. I remember when the n64 and ps1 came out. I got the n64 and my brother got the ps1, The good games on the n64 were few also. I ended up taking my brothers ps thats where all the good games were. Yes sheep I know OOT is on the N64 as well as bond, there were just not enough good games. Its been like 15 years now of crappy nin generations.

[QUOTE="BearEatsMan"][QUOTE="mstc_Q"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

lolkie_81

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

Bioshock has depth? Gameplay? Not so much?

People pay too much attention to story...

What?

What's what? Bioshock's gameplay didn't work out so well.

Vita Chambers were a terrible idea, the hacking game was a pain, the gun play was weak and I ended up using wrench the entire time, and you just had the fall back on health packs the entire time to stay alive.

But people think it's an awesome game because of soundtrack, stroy, voice acting, and graphics. And completely forget about gameplay.

And it pisses the hell out of me when people say games like SMG have no depth. Nintendo spends A TON of time perfecting the level design and gameplay in mario games. Just because a game tries to focus on what games should, which is gameplay, doesn't mean it can't have depth.

The only thing the Wii is nearly on par with is the Gamecube, and even that... it falls short on one big key concept: games - the Wii just doesn't have much.

It's like having two sports cars, and then you have the Prius. It's simply just... different.

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Graphics = NO

Sound = NO

Physics = NO

Online features = NO

Online gaming = NO

Console Features = NO

3rd Party support = NO

Major/popular multiplatform 3rd party franchises (GTA4-RE5-COD4 nad many many more) = NO

Great 1st Party games = YES though is more for Nintendo fans ( N icons etc )

Controls = DEPENDS ( If for you Wiimote is a revolutionary way to play games ok , but some want the game itself to provide the innovative gameplay and not the gamepad..)

OVERALL = Not even close to PS3/x360 almost in EVERY genre (except maybe platforms ,YET ) I can make another 12321 examples. The point is , that if youre not a N fan , or you dont like much N icons , youll never find the BEST game on each GENRE on Wii except the classic N icons based games. And thats a fact. IF anyone dont agree , we can compete with actually games.

lolkie_81

so youre telling me a game system lets you play games with out seeing/hearing/touching it

my god the wii is far better then any thing ever

Why dont you just stop. You know what he is saying. Is this air wolf's other account?

the system has graphics they are what you look at

the system has sound it even got TP booted below AAA

physics boomblox is just

online? no? it may not have as meny but no? no means none not few

online features no? funny blast works has more user made content they any game this gen

edit will have till LBP comes out any way

console features no? funny i have seen a few posters here talking about how they post from their wii

3rd party support no? then whats all that sholveware good you say? NMH got AAA and several 3rd party has gotten AA

not even this tool could say no to first party

controls are great

over all the pc is best and nuthing comes close but all this pointless wii bashing is just dumb

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

The only thing the Wii is nearly on par with is the Gamecube, and even that... it falls short on one big key concept: games - the Wii just doesn't have much.

It's like having two sports cars, and then you have the Prius. It's simply just... different.

Haziqonfire

Nor would they appeal to some PC gamers, such as myself.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

The only thing the Wii is nearly on par with is the Gamecube, and even that... it falls short on one big key concept: games - the Wii just doesn't have much.

It's like having two sports cars, and then you have the Prius. It's simply just... different.

Stevo_the_gamer

Nor would they appeal to some PC gamers, such as myself.

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="BearEatsMan"][QUOTE="mstc_Q"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

BearEatsMan

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

Bioshock has depth? Gameplay? Not so much?

People pay too much attention to story...

What?

What's what? Bioshock's gameplay didn't work out so well.

Vita Chambers were a terrible idea, the hacking game was a pain, the gun play was weak and I ended up using wrench the entire time, and you just had the fall back on health packs the entire time to stay alive.

But people think it's an awesome game because of soundtrack, stroy, voice acting, and graphics. And completely forget about gameplay.

And it pisses the hell out of me when people say games like SMG have no depth. Nintendo spends A TON of time perfecting the level design and gameplay in mario games. Just because a game tries to focus on what games should, which is gameplay, doesn't mean it can't have depth.

Well, I didnt really like it either. I dont know why, great looking game, had good ideas. For some reason I found it boring. I always thought it was me, Im sick of FPS. I prefer TPS. The hacking game was easy.

I think it has a lot. I have around 23 games for my Wii, not including WiiWare or VC. It all just depends on your gaming tastes.

I also play on the PC -- so its a nice combo.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Graphics = NO

Sound = NO

Physics = NO

Online features = NO

Online gaming = NO

Console Features = NO

3rd Party support = NO

Major/popular multiplatform 3rd party franchises (GTA4-RE5-COD4 nad many many more) = NO

Great 1st Party games = YES though is more for Nintendo fans ( N icons etc )

Controls = DEPENDS ( If for you Wiimote is a revolutionary way to play games ok , but some want the game itself to provide the innovative gameplay and not the gamepad..)

OVERALL = Not even close to PS3/x360 almost in EVERY genre (except maybe platforms ,YET ) I can make another 12321 examples. The point is , that if youre not a N fan , or you dont like much N icons , youll never find the BEST game on each GENRE on Wii except the classic N icons based games. And thats a fact. IF anyone dont agree , we can compete with actually games.

surrealnumber5

so youre telling me a game system lets you play games with out seeing/hearing/touching it

my god the wii is far better then any thing ever

Why dont you just stop. You know what he is saying. Is this air wolf's other account?

the system has graphics they are what you look at

the system has sound it even got TP booted below AAA

physics boomblox is just

online? no? it may not have as meny but no? no means none not few

online features no? funny blast works has more user made content they any game this gen

edit will have till LBP comes out any way

console features no? funny i have seen a few posters here talking about how they post from their wii

3rd party support no? then whats all that sholveware good you say? NMH got AAA and several 3rd party has gotten AA

not even this tool could say no to first party

controls are great

over all the pc is best and nuthing comes close but all this pointless wii bashing is just dumb

I'm sorry, but the wii does not have good third party support, it's just that nintendo barely has any games this year so sheep are now listing third party lineup, that's all. I would say that the Wii's third party support is in the same level as the gamecube's.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Graphics = NO

Sound = NO

Physics = NO

Online features = NO

Online gaming = NO

Console Features = NO

3rd Party support = NO

Major/popular multiplatform 3rd party franchises (GTA4-RE5-COD4 nad many many more) = NO

Great 1st Party games = YES though is more for Nintendo fans ( N icons etc )

Controls = DEPENDS ( If for you Wiimote is a revolutionary way to play games ok , but some want the game itself to provide the innovative gameplay and not the gamepad..)

OVERALL = Not even close to PS3/x360 almost in EVERY genre (except maybe platforms ,YET ) I can make another 12321 examples. The point is , that if youre not a N fan , or you dont like much N icons , youll never find the BEST game on each GENRE on Wii except the classic N icons based games. And thats a fact. IF anyone dont agree , we can compete with actually games.

qewrewq

so youre telling me a game system lets you play games with out seeing/hearing/touching it

my god the wii is far better then any thing ever

Why dont you just stop. You know what he is saying. Is this air wolf's other account?

the system has graphics they are what you look at

the system has sound it even got TP booted below AAA

physics boomblox is just

online? no? it may not have as meny but no? no means none not few

online features no? funny blast works has more user made content they any game this gen

edit will have till LBP comes out any way

console features no? funny i have seen a few posters here talking about how they post from their wii

3rd party support no? then whats all that sholveware good you say? NMH got AAA and several 3rd party has gotten AA

not even this tool could say no to first party

controls are great

over all the pc is best and nuthing comes close but all this pointless wii bashing is just dumb

I'm sorry, but the wii does not have good third party support, it's just that nintendo barely has any games this year so sheep are now listing third party lineup, that's all. I would say that the Wii's third party support is in the same level as the gamecube's.

that means none nadda zero zip bubkis zilch ect

AA,AAA games are more then nuthing if you do not agree with the reviews thats fine but impractical when it comes to a debate. if you use your opinion to prove somthing the same can be done to prove you wrong by others. in a debate you must use outside resources and references, the more credable the better.

third party suport =no

that means none nadda zero zip bubkis zilch ect

AA,AAA games are more then nuthing if you do not agree with the reviews thats fine but impractical when it comes to a debate. if you use your opinion to prove somthing the same can be done to prove you wrong by others. in a debate you must use outside resources and references, the more credable the better.

surrealnumber5

Huh? Third party support is there but it's mostly shovelware with a few good titles in between, just like the gamecube..you don't need outside resources to see that. I mean are you saying the Wii's third party support is comparable to PS3/360's? if you are then you're just delusional, seriously..what's up with the weird posts :S .

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

third party suport =no

that means none nadda zero zip bubkis zilch ect

AA,AAA games are more then nuthing if you do not agree with the reviews thats fine but impractical when it comes to a debate. if you use your opinion to prove somthing the same can be done to prove you wrong by others. in a debate you must use outside resources and references, the more credable the better.

qewrewq

Huh? Third party support is there but it's mostly shovelware with a few good titles in between, just like the gamecube..you don't need outside resources to see that. I mean are you saying the Wii's third party support is comparable to PS3/360's? if you are then you're just delusional, seriously..what's up with the weird posts :S .

i am not going to fight opinions i was just pointing out a fanboy and where he was wrong then got accosted by another and then again by you.

all i am saying is that it is wrong to say no third party support. if you want to say weak, crappy, fine, good or what have you would be fine, as long as its not all or none

equal and different enough from the ps2,gfx wise....

look at how sonic character model evolved from sonic heroes(ps2,xbox,gc) to smash brawl(wii)

sonic heroes(ps2,xbox,gc)

super smash brawl(wii)

No, I consider the Wii BETTER than the Xbox360 or PS3.SER69

[QUOTE="SER69"]No, I consider the Wii BETTER than the Xbox360 or PS3.Stevo_the_gamer

no but not in a bad way

presides a few gems on the wii like SMG, SSBB, NMH, Zack and Wiki and a bunch of others.

but for GAMERS that want alot out of it like better online, better graphics, not a abundance of party games etc well you all know the story.

wii is good but in a different way the wii i use when mates are over for wii sports etc. And the rare occassion when a game i want comes out for it

Option 3.

It's got some great games, but I'd feel terrible if it was the only console I owned. As a stand alone console it does not deliver IMO. (although I'll admit, it was my only console for the first year, and had a spectacular first year, but the upcoming year looks not too good except for a few good games).

[QUOTE="qewrewq"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

third party suport =no

that means none nadda zero zip bubkis zilch ect

AA,AAA games are more then nuthing if you do not agree with the reviews thats fine but impractical when it comes to a debate. if you use your opinion to prove somthing the same can be done to prove you wrong by others. in a debate you must use outside resources and references, the more credable the better.

surrealnumber5

Huh? Third party support is there but it's mostly shovelware with a few good titles in between, just like the gamecube..you don't need outside resources to see that. I mean are you saying the Wii's third party support is comparable to PS3/360's? if you are then you're just delusional, seriously..what's up with the weird posts :S .

i am not going to fight opinions i was just pointing out a fanboy and where he was wrong then got accosted by another and then again by you.

all i am saying is that it is wrong to say no third party support. if you want to say weak, crappy, fine, good or what have you would be fine, as long as its not all or none

Lol ok, guess I didnt get your argument. I didn't say there was no third party support, just that it's pretty crappy, and I think that's what the other guy meant as well, but yeah, his post was clearly full of fanboyism and just bashing the Wii.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="SER69"]No, I consider the Wii BETTER than the Xbox360 or PS3.SER69

[QUOTE="SER69"]No, I consider the Wii BETTER than the Xbox360 or PS3.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="SER69"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="SER69"]No, I consider the Wii BETTER than the Xbox360 or PS3.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="qewrewq"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

third party suport =no

that means none nadda zero zip bubkis zilch ect

AA,AAA games are more then nuthing if you do not agree with the reviews thats fine but impractical when it comes to a debate. if you use your opinion to prove somthing the same can be done to prove you wrong by others. in a debate you must use outside resources and references, the more credable the better.

qewrewq

Huh? Third party support is there but it's mostly shovelware with a few good titles in between, just like the gamecube..you don't need outside resources to see that. I mean are you saying the Wii's third party support is comparable to PS3/360's? if you are then you're just delusional, seriously..what's up with the weird posts :S .

i am not going to fight opinions i was just pointing out a fanboy and where he was wrong then got accosted by another and then again by you.

all i am saying is that it is wrong to say no third party support. if you want to say weak, crappy, fine, good or what have you would be fine, as long as its not all or none

Lol ok, guess I didnt get your argument. I didn't say there was no third party support, just that it's pretty crappy, and I think that's what the other guy meant as well, but yeah, his post was clearly full of fanboyism and just bashing the Wii.

i created this account because well the SW that i liked reading back 2-3 years ago is now just a mindless mud fight, and if i can have just a little impact and atlest help some fanboys more realistically get their delusions across it would have been worth it

I've been playing since the 80's, the first gaming device that I owned was a Talent MSX. SER69

equal and different enough from the ps2,gfx wise....

look at how sonic character model evolved from sonic heroes(ps2,xbox,gc) to smash brawl(wii)

sonic heroes(ps2,xbox,gc)

super smash brawl(wii)

fazares

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Graphics = NO

Sound = NO

Physics = NO

Online features = NO

Online gaming = NO

Console Features = NO

3rd Party support = NO

Major/popular multiplatform 3rd party franchises (GTA4-RE5-COD4 nad many many more) = NO

Great 1st Party games = YES though is more for Nintendo fans ( N icons etc )

Controls = DEPENDS ( If for you Wiimote is a revolutionary way to play games ok , but some want the game itself to provide the innovative gameplay and not the gamepad..)

OVERALL = Not even close to PS3/x360 almost in EVERY genre (except maybe platforms ,YET ) I can make another 12321 examples. The point is , that if youre not a N fan , or you dont like much N icons , youll never find the BEST game on each GENRE on Wii except the classic N icons based games. And thats a fact. IF anyone dont agree , we can compete with actually games.

lolkie_81

so youre telling me a game system lets you play games with out seeing/hearing/touching it

my god the wii is far better then any thing ever

Why dont you just stop. You know what he is saying. Is this air wolf's other account?

I will no longer waste any time in nintendo/sheep treads. The blind fanboyism is to much for me to bare,its like talking to a wall. I think everybody should just ignore them.lolkie_81

I will no longer waste any time in nintendo/sheep treads. The blind fanboyism is to much for me to bare,its like talking to a wall. I think everybody should just ignore them.lolkie_81

stop being a fanboy and im sure people would like to discuss things with you, and dont call me a wii fanboy i would stick up for the ps3 or 360 if people made the same outlandish assertions as they do for the wii.

pc people cant be attacked so they are fine

In between option 3 and 4. I think it's very different from the 360, ps3, and PC, and while it's overrated, i wouldn't say it's a waste of space.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="SER69"]No, I consider the Wii BETTER than the Xbox360 or PS3.SER69

I will no longer waste any time in nintendo/sheep treads. The blind fanboyism is to much for me to bare,its like talking to a wall. I think everybody should just ignore them.lolkie_81

There are a lot of fanboys who have never played the wii before...... wow......Virus214

[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

mstc_Q

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

Well.. Atleast those gaames are closer too this then Halo, or GeOW.. Which are two of the most hyped games thats not for Wii..

Wii is a secondary system in my books.CPM_basic

Time to get a refund on those books :)