Do you want the Wii U to succeed? [Poll Added]

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Yes. Nintendo offer a different set up and ideas thant Sony and Microsoft. Hate Nintendo all you want, but have three versions of the same thing would make for a quick end to the videogame industry.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] Bit of a topic-nazi at this point aren't you? Reality is you're a nintendo fan, and you don't seem to have a valid argument to respond with. These are our points of view, contradicting as they may be they fit the super-structure of the topic just fine. You're lost on the fact that our opinions are based on the companys history as well as it's games. I'm not willing to disregard my years of experience because a handheld gamer is trying to preserve a failing console with no arguments to defend his position except to invalidate the opinions of others.fadersdream

Yes I'm a nintendo fan, and yes, I already said I'd like to see it do well simply for providing a different 3rd option. I however am not entertaining stupidity like the mjority of this thread which is why I called "both" of you out. And lol, your opinion is based on your experience with nintendo, fine, its still hyperbole filled none sense. 

Lol sir, this is the none sense I speak of. Does your experience give you the knowledge to know that I bought a 3DS and a WiiU? Is that how you figured it out or is it just cause you're acting like a douche who really knows nothing? I have neither of those 2 systems and I've made no such investment. You're experience let's you speak for you, not made broad sweeping generalizations about everyone else, my ENTIRE point from the beginning :|

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] Because it gluts the marketplace and repels a large community with shovel ware and poorly made ports. It justifies bad practices that hurt a HOBBY that I truly love. And for all the other valid reasons that have been listed already in this thread that you are choosing to disregard or ignore out your own fanboy loyalties.fadersdream

I think you're confusing the  Wii and the Wii U. Just saying.

Also:

Wii repelled gamers for non-gamers while WiiU repelled those non-gamers for gamers... and has failed.

WiiU gluts the marketplace by giving a false sense of what current gen is while the Wii did that as well.

Poorly made ports? You mean like Deus Ex that has the boss battles completely reworked as well as having lighting and antialiasing from that of the PC version. Those poorly made ports...right...

The next generation is just starting. So how you get "failed" already is just beyond me. Going to go with fanboy dribble on your part. As for shovelware; There's some on every console. Don't whine about it on one and then ignore it on another. 

No I want it to fail miserably. Mario sucks.

I don't really care either way since I don't even really consider buying Nintendo consoles. I don't wish death on the Wii U, but out of pure entertainment value if the Wii U was discontinued, I think I would be in favor of it's demise.

I don't really care either way since I don't even really consider buying Nintendo consoles. I don't wish death on the Wii U, but out of pure entertainment value if the Wii U was discontinued, I think I would be in favor of it's demise.

BPoole96

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I don't really care either way since I don't even really consider buying Nintendo consoles. I don't wish death on the Wii U, but out of pure entertainment value if the Wii U was discontinued, I think I would be in favor of it's demise.

DarkLink77

C'mon, you can't honestly say you wouldn't be amused by a full on meltdown of Sheep if the Wii U was discontinued :P

The WiiU will be fine.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I don't really care either way since I don't even really consider buying Nintendo consoles. I don't wish death on the Wii U, but out of pure entertainment value if the Wii U was discontinued, I think I would be in favor of it's demise.

BPoole96

C'mon, you can't honestly say you wouldn't be amused by a full on meltdown of Sheep if the Wii U was discontinued :P

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh no, my point is sweeping generallizations like "if you were there during the NES era" or "Nintendo makes great games. PERIOD", is contradictroy to letting people actually make points. Its just you forcing your authority to make a point. I may do this in threads but not when the thread is asking people to give their own personal thoughts about what "they" want which is my point :|

ActicEdge

Yes I'm a nintendo fan, and yes, I already said I'd like to see it do well simply for providing a different 3rd option. I however am not entertaining stupidity like the mjority of this thread which is why I called "both" of you out. And lol, your opinion is based on your experience with nintendo, fine, its still hyperbole filled none sense. An opinion is fine, it gains more credibility when you don't victimize yourself however.

Well I prefaced my experience with the Wii with "for me."  So that was indicated as personal opinion.

My other point referring to the games is true.  Although I'm not a big supporter by any stretch of the imagination for metacritic or gamerankings, I will say that Nintendo core franchise titles are generally very well received.  I think that constitutes great games.

As for the comment pertaining to people not growing up with the NES and SNES, that was more of a shot at many of these posters who evidently are younger and post simple hate posts as opposed to legitimate arguments.

Fadersdream, I would disagree with you because I really liked the N64 controller layout and the feel of the gamecube controller ergonomically. But that's my opinion as I despise the dualshock controller.  I play with a 3rd party controller on my PS3 that has a different layout (see Shadow 6 on google).  

And for me, the third party stuff doesn't bother me.  I buy Nintendo consoles for my Nintendo fix.  And the other consoles as my 3rd party machines.  So personally, your issues with Nintendo aren't mine.  

Of course, that's not to say I don't have huge issues with the Wii U.  I've refrained from purchasing one until games I want are released for it.  A trend I will follow for any next generation platform.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

So stop responding. 

Again though, anybody that actively wishes for a console to fail is a fanboy, not a gamer. You should hope for a console to do better and produce great games. 

Puckhog04

And if all anyone cared about was the evolution of games, everyone would play nothing but PC and not on static hardware. So you really can just trash tat point. I care about games. If the Wii U produces some amazing games in the future and is enormously successful then so be it. If not then whatever. But to actively hope it fails is just fanboyish.

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[QUOTE="Cranler"] If the wiiu was a huge success then it could hold back next gen multiplats and send a message to Sony and MS that people care more about gimmicks than the evolution of games.Cranler

And if all anyone cared about was the evolution of games, everyone would play nothing but PC and not on static hardware. So you really can just trash tat point. I care about games. If the Wii U produces some amazing games in the future and is enormously successful then so be it. If not then whatever. But to actively hope it fails is just fanboyish.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]No, i don't want any weak system sold at a premium that relies on a useless controller gimmick to succeed, nevaaaar.mems_1224

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

And if all anyone cared about was the evolution of games, everyone would play nothing but PC and not on static hardware. So you really can just trash tat point. I care about games. If the Wii U produces some amazing games in the future and is enormously successful then so be it. If not then whatever. But to actively hope it fails is just fanboyish.

KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

And if all anyone cared about was the evolution of games, everyone would play nothing but PC and not on static hardware. So you really can just trash tat point. I care about games. If the Wii U produces some amazing games in the future and is enormously successful then so be it. If not then whatever. But to actively hope it fails is just fanboyish.

KungfuKitten

I like nintendo games but their hardware sucks. So itwould be great to see Nintendo go 3rd party. That way we could get the Nintendo games with out having to buy rubbish hardware.

The Wii U is not going to succeed. It seems like it's too late. The whole "new gamers" are gone or doesn't want to bother with what shit Nintendo has to offer them. It's almost game over for Nintendo.XenogearsMaster

:lol:

No one knows what the future holds. One thing that is certain this gen is that the console market will shrink and modt likely all the big three will have a smaller userbase.

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]The Wii U is not going to succeed. It seems like it's too late. The whole "new gamers" are gone or doesn't want to bother with what shit Nintendo has to offer them. It's almost game over for Nintendo.super600

:lol:

No one knows what the future holds. One thing that is certain this gen is that the console market will shrink and modt likely all the big three will have a smaller userbase.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]The Wii U is not going to succeed. It seems like it's too late. The whole "new gamers" are gone or doesn't want to bother with what shit Nintendo has to offer them. It's almost game over for Nintendo.heeweesRus

:lol:

No one knows what the future holds. One thing that is certain this gen is that the console market will shrink and modt likely all the big three will have a smaller userbase.

I highly doubt it. Thery would have to impress the general population to do that. They will struggle to get first or second because of MS or ninty(if they recover).

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

:lol:

No one knows what the future holds. One thing that is certain this gen is that the console market will shrink and modt likely all the big three will have a smaller userbase.

super600

I highly doubt it. Thery would have to impress the general population to do that. They will struggle to get first or second because of MS or ninty(if they recover).

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

:lol:

No one knows what the future holds. One thing that is certain this gen is that the console market will shrink and modt likely all the big three will have a smaller userbase.

super600

I highly doubt it. Thery would have to impress the general population to do that. They will struggle to get first or second because of MS or ninty(if they recover).

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Nah, PS4 will likely reach a PS2 level userbase, % wise of course.

no-scope-AK47

I highly doubt it. Thery would have to impress the general population to do that. They will struggle to get first or second because of MS or ninty(if they recover).

MS still has yet to show the next xbox and the WiiU can still recover..Unless a miracle happens their is no way any of the next gen consoles will break 100 million

I want Nintendo to regain some form of sanity and stop the crazy creepy uncle act.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Why does anyone want it to fail?Blabadon

Careful... you're making sense, a dangerious endeavour to be sure... around these parts.

Sure. Competition is a good thing, and drives the industry :D

I think the only time I ever want a system to fail is if utilizes blatant anti-consumer policies that would lead to more anti-consumer policies down the line. This has not happened to date.

More on-topic, of course I want the Wii-U to succeed, but I want it to do so because Nintendo fixes their short and long-term mistakes with it, not because it happens to succeed in spite of them.

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I highly doubt it. Thery would have to impress the general population to do that. They will struggle to get first or second because of MS or ninty(if they recover).

super600

MS still has yet to show the next xbox and the WiiU can still recover..Unless a miracle happens their is no way any of the next gen consoles will break 100 million

Ps1 was new and everybody said the market is soft and Sony is new. Guess what Sony kicked ass. They said no way will the ps2 do better than the ps1 and Sony did even better. The ps3 had a 500/600 dollar price and hardly any games. So it took a while to catch on but it did. The ps4 should do much better 100 million seems doable.

Sure. Competition is a good thing, and drives the industry :D

trollhunter2

How about this Nintendo should release some good first party games with no delays

Definitely! But I dun mind seeing them struggle as well. There are plenty of lessons to be learned with this console for them. They really need to reevaluate their approach in terms of hardware in the future to better entice customers and devs alike. Ninty can totally do better.

TecmoGirl

Arrogance and Hubris at its finest.

But I  :lol:  at all those saying Nintendo is doomed.  I'm really not too happy towards the big N right now, but the Wii U will surely survive, this is guaranteed.  Great games will eventually release, and sales will pick-up.  It's happened with all past gens, and it will with this one as well.  I don't think it will be able to compete with Sony and MS and will be again relegated to 3rd place, but it'll live.

How about this Nintendo should release some good first party games with no delays

TheFadeForever

Of course i want them to succeed, only idiot fanboys would wish for them to fail.

I would be more than happy to see them go 3rd party and start developing for more capable hardware (PC especially!). They are barely fit to be their own console maker and game designer simultaneously.

My answer is yes I want them to succeed as a game developer.

I would be more than happy to see them go 3rd party and start developing for more capable hardware (PC especially!). They are barely fit to be their own console maker and game designer simultaneously.

My answer is yes I want them to succeed as a game developer.

jer_1

[QUOTE="jer_1"]

I would be more than happy to see them go 3rd party and start developing for more capable hardware (PC especially!). They are barely fit to be their own console maker and game designer simultaneously.

My answer is yes I want them to succeed as a game developer.

nintendoboy16

I like video games, and Nintendo often provides the best video games, so yes. Plus I really hope the tablet streaming idea takes offBlabadon

Yup, like the streaming too, they should cram it to as many games as possible.

Hopefully, Gamers will stop saying how great (insert name of 8th generation console of choice here) is, in comparison with (insert name of rival 8th generation consoles here) after they understand that graphics differences between each console, will be less obvious over time and that the less powerfull can find a work around with better textures and tricks to accomplish the same goal as the more powerfull ones. I hope this graphic illustrates my point, in what I believe is Nintendo's idea pursuing lower specs in their console. RJSaud

They've been doing this for some time now. Baking the detail of a high res mesh into a normal map/bump map and using it for the low res mesh.

No I don't, at least not in its current state. If nintendo prices it reasonably and throws a steady stream of new and old franchises on it then sure.