Do you want the Wii U to succeed? [Poll Added]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

They could go 3rd party for console/pc gaming and still make hand-helds.

MFDOOM1983

I don't want them to succeed nor do I want them to fail. They really need to change their ways of thinking if they ever want me to be a future costumer.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Being third party and still supporting their major hardware? What's the point then?nintendoboy16

I don't want them to succeed nor do I want them to fail. They really need to change their ways of thinking if they ever want me to be a future costumer.

DivineSword

The Wii U has a lot of potential, and the game pad doesn't get enough credit here on SW. For example, off-screen play is more convenient than it sounds. I have the gamepad sitting on the stand next to my PC monitor, and I just turn it on and play w/e I feel the need to. What I'm getting at is that I haven't played my Wii U on the TV in a couple of months - it's all on the game pad. This may seem insignificant and it's hard to explain, but it makes a nice place in my lounge without disrupting the flow of my entertainment hub. PC + Wii U + TV going on at the same time for example. 

So as a console itself, I think the Wii U is Nintendo's best yet - simply because of the gamepad and UI - leading onto the flow of the applications like eShop and Miiverse. I haven't even gone into gameplay advantages yet, which has been demonstrated by some games (Rayman Legends and ZombiU come to mind), but this to me remains in the "potential" category. I need more games to "wow" me in this area before I argue this point.

The console itself represents how and what Nintendo is about. It's not like Playstation of Xbox, and I doubt Nintendo will replicate anything like those systems. A lot of people on SW don't like this, but that's just a different perspective on gaming and what kinds of experiences they want to take from. I think wanting something like this to fail is the wrong way to look at it; it's a gaming model that a lot of other people enjoy. Just because you don't shouldn't mean that they should fail. If you don't like the experience, let it be and move onto another platform. It's been this way for years. 

Nintendo has problems outside of this. They mainly need to establish a library, which is an obvious a problem for all new platforms. This will change soon. In my eyes the biggest problem is Nintendo's handling on their legacy platforms and games. The Virtual console should be accessed through a unified account. I shouldn't have to buy Balloon Fight on my 3DS and again on my Wii U for example. I think Nintendo has a responsibility to have these games more accessible in a sensible manner - in the preservation of gaming history.

I don't like Nintendo's gimmicky controls Wii motion or Wii U game pad. 

I really like Nintendo and I dont want them to go 3rd party bcuz of their handhelds. The Wii U will surely get some great games but I just dont see the point of a last gen console releasing right before the PS4 & 720 which will be a leap above the Wii U. Will the industry hurt if the Wii U fails? I dont think so.Kaszilla

I want Nintendo to pay for what the Wii did to gaming.Bread_or_Decide

Sheep sound like they're too good to beg, so they're getting mad instead.

fadersdream

I really like Nintendo and I dont want them to go 3rd party bcuz of their handhelds. The Wii U will surely get some great games but I just dont see the point of a last gen console releasing right before the PS4 & 720 which will be a leap above the Wii U. Will the industry hurt if the Wii U fails? I dont think so.Kaszilla

I want Nintendo to succeed, but I want the Wii U to crash and burn. I want traditional Nintendo consoles. No more garbage overpriced gimmicks. Fizzman

Did you own a GC? Because, if you didn't you are the reason they made the Wii for casuals to begin with.

I want it to die so we get a better Nintendo.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] You may be right, but you're not any different, so what exactly is your point? That no one should comment on a public forum?fadersdream

Uh no, my point is sweeping generallizations like "if you were there during the NES era" or "Nintendo makes great games. PERIOD", is contradictroy to letting people actually make points. Its just you forcing your authority to make a point. I may do this in threads but not when the thread is asking people to give their own personal thoughts about what "they" want which is my point :|

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh no, my point is sweeping generallizations like "if you were there during the NES era" or "Nintendo makes great games. PERIOD", is contradictroy to letting people actually make points. Its just you forcing your authority to make a point. I may do this in threads but not when the thread is asking people to give their own personal thoughts about what "they" want which is my point :|

Coolyfett

Definately, I just won't be supporting them any time soon.CJ_ofCamelot

Yeah. Competition is good.-Wicked_Sick-

I want it to die so we get a better Nintendo.

PCgameruk

I would like it to, but now I got to the point where I don't care. Nintendo has had so many Nintendo Directs and they always dissapoint for WiiU. No games coming out. I can care less now, just let the system die.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] Bit of a topic-nazi at this point aren't you? Reality is you're a nintendo fan, and you don't seem to have a valid argument to respond with. These are our points of view, contradicting as they may be they fit the super-structure of the topic just fine. You're lost on the fact that our opinions are based on the companys history as well as it's games. I'm not willing to disregard my years of experience because a handheld gamer is trying to preserve a failing console with no arguments to defend his position except to invalidate the opinions of others.MirkoS77

[QUOTE="CJ_ofCamelot"]Definately, I just won't be supporting them any time soon.clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="CJ_ofCamelot"]Definately, I just won't be supporting them any time soon.CJ_ofCamelot

As a gamer, I dont want any system to fail but I know the Wii U will fail because Nintendo refuses to push its platform forward for some reason.

As a gamer, I dont want any system to fail but I know the Wii U will fail because Nintendo refuses to push its platform forward for some reason.

comptonst88

[QUOTE="comptonst88"]

As a gamer, I dont want any system to fail but I know the Wii U will fail because Nintendo refuses to push its platform forward for some reason.

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

Sheep sound like they're too good to beg, so they're getting mad instead.

Coolyfett

I really like Nintendo and I dont want them to go 3rd party bcuz of their handhelds. The Wii U will surely get some great games but I just dont see the point of a last gen console releasing right before the PS4 & 720 which will be a leap above the Wii U. Will the industry hurt if the Wii U fails? I dont think so.Kaszilla

Im sure you think Playstation allstars is better than Smash bros too right?

Yes I do. Nintendo should not be rewarded for putting out outdated hardware.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"]That attitude from those guys has being going on for a few months now.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I really like Nintendo and I dont want them to go 3rd party bcuz of their handhelds. The Wii U will surely get some great games but I just dont see the point of a last gen console releasing right before the PS4 & 720 which will be a leap above the Wii U. Will the industry hurt if the Wii U fails? I dont think so.Shinobishyguy

Im sure you think Playstation allstars is better than Smash bros too right?

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]I want Nintendo to succeed, but I want the Wii U to crash and burn. I want traditional Nintendo consoles. No more garbage overpriced gimmicks. Puckhog04

Did you own a GC? Because, if you didn't you are the reason they made the Wii for casuals to begin with.

Of course, why would I want a console to fail, that would only lead to people losing their jobs, and the company failing if its bad enough. :roll:

To think otherwise is pretty childish. 

Of course, why would I want a console to fail, that would only lead to people losing their jobs, and the company failing if its bad enough. :roll:

 

To think otherwise is pretty childish. 

SentientMind

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]ActicEdge has been a Nintendo defender for a long time. Its ok to defend gaming systems and companies, but not ok to critc them? ArticEdge is the perfect example of why there are so many Anti Nintendo threads coming up. If the Nintendo guys would stop responding the the trend would go away, but they cant really handle the fact that the company they support and love is looking really suspect. Thats why its called system wars. Coolyfett also gives the side eye to some of these fence riders around here. People who say you are only a real gamer if you have Wii U, PS3, 360 & PC, but guys who just own a PS3 or 360 or Fanboys but not Gamers? Really?? The main reason half of you fence riders even bring this up is because most of you are adult males who need to hide or delute the fact you own a Nintendo system ha ha ha. Its way too transparent. How many adult males can just game on a Wii or Wii U and notthing else? Its like they have to have a suppliment. People who have a PS3 or 360 dont need a suppliment. Thats the point.

Coolyfett

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh no, my point is sweeping generallizations like "if you were there during the NES era" or "Nintendo makes great games. PERIOD", is contradictroy to letting people actually make points. Its just you forcing your authority to make a point. I may do this in threads but not when the thread is asking people to give their own personal thoughts about what "they" want which is my point :|

Coolyfett

Not that your opinion means much of anything because its you but I'm about the most sane openly pro Nintendo gamer you're ever gonna find. The circus of idiocracy around here is pretty hard to not get caught up in granted.

Even if the whole SW decided to get one it would still not be enough for the platform to succeed. ;)

I think that in the greater scheme of things, Nintendo did mess-up with this system.

They lost both, gamers and non-gamers with only returning ones being fans of familiar Nintendo franchises.

I don't see this system doing better than the GameCube as far as sales and 3rd party support are concerned. (possibly even worse given that it's inable to run next-generation engines and that there's simply not a market for many 3rd party games on it)

They will either have to focus on diverse exclusives or keep milking that Mario "cash-cow".

Even if the whole SW decided to get one it would still not be enough for the platform to succeed. ;)

I think that in the greater scheme of things, Nintendo did mess-up with this system.

They lost both, gamers and non-gamers with only returning ones being fans of familiar Nintendo franchises.

I don't see this system doing better than the GameCube as far as sales and 3rd party support are concerned. (possibly even worse given that it's inable to run next-generation engines and that there's simply not a market for many 3rd party games on it)

They will either have to focus on diverse exclusives or keep milking that Mario "cash-cow".

nameless12345

I think the console will do better than the gamecube in the end if the marketing is fixed and a lot of interesting games are released for the console that people will buy. I don't expect gamecube numbers,but most likely anywere from 40 million-80million in the end. I also expect it will be a struggle for any console to break the 90 million mark for LTD next gen unless they are afforable and consumer demand for any of the three are high. 

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Even if the whole SW decided to get one it would still not be enough for the platform to succeed. ;)

I think that in the greater scheme of things, Nintendo did mess-up with this system.

They lost both, gamers and non-gamers with only returning ones being fans of familiar Nintendo franchises.

I don't see this system doing better than the GameCube as far as sales and 3rd party support are concerned. (possibly even worse given that it's inable to run next-generation engines and that there's simply not a market for many 3rd party games on it)

They will either have to focus on diverse exclusives or keep milking that Mario "cash-cow".

super600

I think the console will do better than the gamecube in the end if the marketing is fixed and a lot of interesting games are released for the console that people will buy. I don't expect gamecube numbers,but most likely anywere from 40 million-80million in the end. I also expect it will be a struggle for any console to break the 90 million mark for LTD next gen unless they are afforable and consumer demand for any of the three are high. 

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Even if the whole SW decided to get one it would still not be enough for the platform to succeed. ;)

I think that in the greater scheme of things, Nintendo did mess-up with this system.

They lost both, gamers and non-gamers with only returning ones being fans of familiar Nintendo franchises.

I don't see this system doing better than the GameCube as far as sales and 3rd party support are concerned. (possibly even worse given that it's inable to run next-generation engines and that there's simply not a market for many 3rd party games on it)

They will either have to focus on diverse exclusives or keep milking that Mario "cash-cow".

Kaszilla

I think the console will do better than the gamecube in the end if the marketing is fixed and a lot of interesting games are released for the console that people will buy. I don't expect gamecube numbers,but most likely anywere from 40 million-80million in the end. I also expect it will be a struggle for any console to break the 90 million mark for LTD next gen unless they are afforable and consumer demand for any of the three are high. 

I highly doubt it.The holiday sales for the console will probably be high if ninty fixes the marketing and lots of games are released for it.If they can keep the momentum after the holiday the console will most likely sell better than the gamecube in the end. 

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Even if the whole SW decided to get one it would still not be enough for the platform to succeed. ;)

I think that in the greater scheme of things, Nintendo did mess-up with this system.

They lost both, gamers and non-gamers with only returning ones being fans of familiar Nintendo franchises.

I don't see this system doing better than the GameCube as far as sales and 3rd party support are concerned. (possibly even worse given that it's inable to run next-generation engines and that there's simply not a market for many 3rd party games on it)

They will either have to focus on diverse exclusives or keep milking that Mario "cash-cow".

super600

I think the console will do better than the gamecube in the end if the marketing is fixed and a lot of interesting games are released for the console that people will buy. I don't expect gamecube numbers,but [color=red]most likely anywere from 40 million-80million in the end[/color]. I also expect it will be a struggle for any console to break the 90 million mark for LTD next gen unless they are afforable and consumer demand for any of the three are high. 

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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="super600"]

I think the console will do better than the gamecube in the end if the marketing is fixed and a lot of interesting games are released for the console that people will buy. I don't expect gamecube numbers,but most likely anywere from 40 million-80million in the end. I also expect it will be a struggle for any console to break the 90 million mark for LTD next gen unless they are afforable and consumer demand for any of the three are high. 

super600

I highly doubt it.The holiday sales for the console will probably be high if ninty fixes the marketing and lots of games are released for it.If they can keep the momentum after the holiday the console will most likely sell better than the gamecube in the end. 

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"] The console will struggle to push 15 millionKaszilla

I highly doubt it.The holiday sales for the console will probably be high if ninty fixes the marketing and lots of games are released for it.If they can keep the momentum after the holiday the console will most likely sell better than the gamecube in the end. 

Consumers will buy a console if the games interest them and the console features are interesting to them and the console is advertised well.

A lot of people don't care if x console doesn't match up with it competitior's in x way. They will buy the console if the game's interest them. The WiiU will make a great secondary console once more games are released for it.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="super600"]

I highly doubt it.The holiday sales for the console will probably be high if ninty fixes the marketing and lots of games are released for it.If they can keep the momentum after the holiday the console will most likely sell better than the gamecube in the end. 

super600

Consumers will buy a console if the games interest them and the console features are interesting to them and the console is advertised well.

A lot of people don't care if x console doesn't match up with it competitior's in x way. They will buy the console if the game's interest them. The WiiU will make a great secondary console once more games are released for it.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"] I just dont see how it's possible for the Wii U to pass GC numbersKaszilla

Consumers will buy a console if the games interest them and the console features are interesting to them and the console is advertised well.

A lot of people don't care if x console doesn't match up with it competitior's in x way. They will buy the console if the game's interest them. The WiiU will make a great secondary console once more games are released for it.

Ninty will drop the price of the console in the next year or two.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="super600"]

Consumers will buy a console if the games interest them and the console features are interesting to them and the console is advertised well.

A lot of people don't care if x console doesn't match up with it competitior's in x way. They will buy the console if the game's interest them. The WiiU will make a great secondary console once more games are released for it.

super600

Ninty will drop the price of the console in the next year or two.

no

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"] Don't you kinda think the Wii U is too expensive as a secondary console? Nintendo should have advertise the Wii U as a cheap sub $200 console to compliment the next gen consoles.Kaszilla

Ninty will drop the price of the console in the next year or two.

I want it to succeed, but I'm not buying it.  Nor am I buying a PS4 or Durango/Xbox whatever.

I'm sticking with PC.  I'll be buying a Vita (it's doomed, but it has some games I want to play).  But I don't want any platform or company to NOT succeed.  if they went 3rd party it would be beneficial to me as a consumer though.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="super600"]

Ninty will drop the price of the console in the next year or two.

hiphops_savior