Does Gamespot posses the strength to give GoW Halo:R FF13 a score below AAA...?

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#51 kittyloaf69
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I think FF13 is the only one with a chance to score below 9 on Gamespot...and that's only based off of feedback I've read thus far.
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#52 Pixel-Pirate
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No. I don't think gamespot really has the strength to give a mainstream long standing series anything less than god-like ratings.

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#53 Human-after-all
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If FFXIII wasn't named FFXIII it would probably be about an 8 but since its FF itll be 9+ because that's just the way it works.

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#54 TheEroica  Moderator
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Why not, they will score the games what they deserve.

I predict 9.5 for FXIII.

GOW3 9.

Halo reach 9.

HAZE-Unit

FF13 is an 86 on metacritic! and youre saying a 9.5?

Mass Effect 2 is a 96 Im no mathmetician but thats a huge difference and you're saying FF13 will score a half point higher than ME2? Wow, I cant see how gamespot could even get away with that?

GOW3 troubles me because of the "more of the same" appraoch.

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#55 Arach666
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I smell AA for FFXIII and AAA for Reach.
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#56 dream431ca
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And why should score factor in to you buying the games or not?

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#57 peaceoutmedusa
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]Are those real predictions, or your possible flop predictions? I would be shocked if a single one of those scores was correct. More likely, imo, God of War 3 9.0, FFXIII 9.5 and Halo Reach a 9.0... but who knows. foxhound_fox


Real predictions. I predicted a 7.5-8.0 for Dante's Inferno, while everyone else was predicting a 8.5-9.0... and it scored 6.5. I've been a lot more accurate than most people here when it comes to Gamespot scores, especially since I've been around for over 4 years and understand how Gamespot rates games.

Dantes Inferno is a new series, so they wouldnt be pressured to give it a high score.

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#58 peaceoutmedusa
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And why should score factor in to you buying the games or not?

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If I dont rent it, and pay 60 dollars for it, then it should mean something.
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#59 Mario1331
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if the game is good give it the score it deserves, AAA's arent the only great games out there...

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#60 masterpinky2000
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Both websites definitely will lay the boom on big exclusive titles, look at their respective reviews for Lair on the PS3.
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#61 Half-Way
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Well they gave Zelda TP a AA so i guess so

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this.

and TP even has a better score on MC and GR then most AAA games on GS

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#62 MangaJ
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

THIS IS NOT A GAMESPOT BASH THREAD!!!! not by a long shot. Im actually sympathizing with them. At this point we all know that FF13 wont be the mega life changing hit its hype machine wanted us to believe it would be... Its Metacritic score is below 90 and Im sure its a great game. My question is wether big review outlets like Gamespot and IGN will feel the pressure to give the game AAA status so as not to alienate a massive fanbase that may not agree with the score and thus stop visiting the website.

Personally I believe Gamespot has the stones to review it straight up. They got honest with the zelda fanbase a few years ago, right? It will be interesting to see how the review shakes out. IGN will buckle.

Drakes_Fortune

Im sure they have no problem giving it below AAA, i doubt any major reviewer has, but the fact is that FFXIII deserves AAA. This game wouldnt be getting 7/10 scores if it wasnt a FF game. If it were a new IP or something people would judge it differently and would give it a 9/10 or even more. And thers a sticky for FF13 topics, so i guess this will be locked.

I feel it's the exact opposite. I feel that this game will probably be deserving a 6 or 7/10 but will get higher because there's the Final Fantasy name on it. It's total crap how big name games get automatic high scores even if they're just rehashed trash with 500 japanese story cliches mashed together into a 50 hour long mess of incoherent junk wearing spikey hair and mismatched clothes.

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#63 lafiro93
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I predict 8.0 for FF 13, 9.0 for GOW and 9.7 for Halo reach

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#64 Sparky04
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They had the balls to give Twilight Princess an 8.8 so maybe. Then again I prefer the reviewers they had then. FF 13 getting below 9 wouldn't be that suprising to me. GoW I don't know. I would be shocked if they have Halo Reach below a 9 though, but then again I think everything they've shown about Reach sounds great so far.

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#65 djsifer01
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Strength? I think the out come of the score will be based on the opinion of the reviewer. Has nothing to do with strength, lol.
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#66 themyth01
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Why would they, if they're all great games... then again GS underrated Mass Effect 2 by 6% in comparison with metacritic, so maybe they will, possibly a non-PS3 exclusive title so as not to piss off their biggest population.

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#67 WardCleaver02
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GS can do whatever they like to all those games except Halo, they can't underrate bungie, ODST got a 9, A FREAKING 9!!! Reach will not get lower than 9.5 even if the disc in the copy they received was replaced with someone's feaces.

Zaibach

Halo Wars says hi with its 6.5 and Oni also says"hello" with its 6.9. And, ODST got the lowest score of any Halo Bungiegame to date (not counting the bad PC ports). If they gave a 10 to ODST, I would agree with you. However, they gave ODST; as they will with FFXIII, Halo: Reach, and GOW 3, the exact score that they deserve.

Although, a game about feces would appeal to a lot of elementary school boys. "New from Nintendo, 'Mario Feces Party 4!'"

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#68 jalexbrown
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I'm not all that interested in specific speculation, but I think Final Fantasy XIII will almost definitely be sub-AAA (if I am speculating, it'll be an 8.5). I think God of War 3 and Halo: Reach will both be 9.0. At least I do hope Gamespot has the sense to not give either of these games an AAAAE rating.
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#69 josh494
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I've never seen a review on this site that i thought was biased. If a game isn't good then i expect them to say just that.
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#70 Bigboi500
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No they don't. If there's big hype for a big named game it will get AAA here almost always.

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#71 OreoMilkshake
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10 bucks says all 3 will be AAA.
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#72 WithoutGraceXII
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I rarely even visit other gaming review sites anymore because I have complete trust in gamespot not to inflate scores because of fan/media pressure. Now, I may not agree with their tastes all the time, but I understand that is just difference of opinion.
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#73 IppoTenma
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I don't like some of gamespot's reviews, but I do respect them. They had the balls to give Zelda TP an 8.8, so.
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#74 brickdoctor
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IGN loves to dish out AAAs. They only give a game a bad score if they absolutely need to and the game must be DREADFUL. Anyways, I'm almost positive Halo: Reach will get a AAA from Gamespot, and even though I don't like the series, I see them giving GOW3 one as well. Final Fantasy however, probably won't get a AAA.

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#75 WardCleaver02
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No they don't. If there's big hype for a big named game it will get AAA here almost always.

Bigboi500

Yes, they do.

Most recently, ME2 received a 9.0 at GS, one of the lowest scores given (MC is at 9.6). Conversley, games like Demon Souls, and going back a few years, Escape from Butcher Bay, received a 9.0 or above, despite being either virtually unknown up until release and/or receiving little to no hype.

Do people also forget games like Halo Wars, which scored a 6.5? The MC average is almost 2 full points higher at 8.2.

Conspiracy debunked.

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#76 AgentA-Mi6
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Im sure they can give FF any score they want, even a 7.5 or anything lower than AAA, same for god of war, it depends on the reviewer.
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#77 SaltyMeatballs
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GOW3 and Halo:R - NO FF13 - MAYBE
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#78 TheEroica  Moderator
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I predict 8.0 for FF 13, 9.0 for GOW and 9.7 for Halo reach

lafiro93

FF13 8.0

GOW 8.5

Reach 9.0

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#79 789shadow
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Didn't Kevin say he wasn't afraid to give a series like Final Fantasy below AAA?

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#80 HavocV3
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if Reach has:

10 hour campaign

Great story, comparable to the other Halos

Gameplay

+ updated graphics, although there was tons of room to improve from H3.

multiplayer and every H3 feature- map editor, theater

lower than 9.0 is unlikely.

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#81 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

No they don't. If there's big hype for a big named game it will get AAA here almost always.

WardCleaver02

Yes, they do.

Most recently, ME2 received a 9.0 at GS, one of the lowest scores given (MC is at 9.6). Conversley, games like Demon Souls, and going back a few years, Escape from Butcher Bay, received a 9.0 or above, despite being either virtually unknown up until release and/or receiving little to no hype.

Do people also forget games like Halo Wars, which scored a 6.5? The MC average is almost 2 full points higher at 8.2.

Conspiracy debunked.

Halo Wars wasn't made by Bungie and it was a spin-off, not a main entry. Conspiracy back on track.

Also, can the beave come out and play?

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#82 Kcdragon8116
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Gamespot will give it the score it deserves. IGN however will not. IGN will give it AAA status just because it's a big name game. Gamespot will be critical of the game and score it appropriatly.
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#83 Dead-Memories
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not expecting AAA for FFXIII, but GOW III and Halo Reach are almost guaranteed given the track record.

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#84 ichiban30
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does it really matter? No matter what score they give the games, they will probably be criticized and questioned for it. It's anopinion. There will always be someone with the opposite opinion.

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#85 padaporra
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Probably. Cant say more because I dont know how good this games are looking.

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I find GS scores to be inconsistent. They do not match the quality of the game and really dont say what game is better than other.

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#86 methinksyou
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Gamespot flopped Twilight Princess, Mass Effect(only 360 version), Fable 2, MGS3, they docked the PS3 version of Fallout 3 by .5, they gave out three different scores for Dragon Age, and they slapped the PS3 Bayonetta with a full 1.0 difference from the 360 version... I would say they have the balls to flop anything. If those games don't deserve AAA scores, they won't get them. However, I don't think it's very likely that any of those three games will be less than AAA quality in their respective genres. Hahadouken
fixed I do not think they have the balls to flop FPS halo though, odst makes me believe so. It only has AA on gamerankings and metacritic yet they gave it a AAA While GOW on PSP has AAA on both meta and gamerankings and they gave it a AA. So halo is protected, regardless of quality, but GOW3 will score AA here, even if it is AAA quality.

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#87 II_Seraphim_II
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I like GSes reviews, but I can't understand for the life of me how Halo ODST got AAA. :?

If ODST got AAA then Reach practically has AAA on lock down.

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#88 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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GOW3 pretty much has a free AAA in the bag, Reach most likely will be getting AAA, and I think FF13 probably will be getting AA unless gamespot really likes it.
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#89 chocolate1325
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Final Fantasy 13 won't God War 3 might not either but Halo Reach should with multiplayer.

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#90 Lionheart08
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Despite massive hype for games like Fable 2, Gamespot still gave it AA-status so I doubt "lack of stones" has anything to do with it. I can honestly see FFXIII getting an 8 or 8.5. God of War 3 looks like a 9.0 IMO.

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#91 Kevin-V
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We give high-profile games lower-than-expected scores all the time. What do you think generates the most hate? It's actually an impossible situation. If I give a highly anticipated sequel a high score, I get bombarded with "you were paid off." If I give it a lower score, it's because I "didn't get it," or "I wasn't good at it," or "I am a fat gay freak." OK, that last thing might be true, but I don't want to hear about it!

We'll give it exactly what we believe it deserves. We've never been afraid of giving a lower score to a high-profile game. (If you don't believe me, check the comments on the Aliens Vs. Predator video review, or the ones on the Dante's Inferno video review, or on the Metroid Prime 3 review. See comments about FEAR 2 and Riddick: Dark Athena.)

I've got the balls to say exactly what I think. Shouldn't that be evident by now? ;)

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#92 SilentlyMad
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I could see certain Gamespot reviewers giving Reach below 9.0 no matter the average.
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#93 Kevin-V
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I could see certain Gamespot reviewers giving Reach below 9.0 no matter the average.SilentlyMad
We don't care about the average score. What other outlets give the game is irrelevant. If you see a score it's because it's what the reviewer strongly believes is the right one. I know that's shocking and all!
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#94 jalexbrown
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]I could see certain Gamespot reviewers giving Reach below 9.0 no matter the average.Kevin-V
We don't care about the average score. What other outlets give the game is irrelevant. If you see a score it's because it's what the reviewer strongly believes is the right one. I know that's shocking and all!

I know. Why is it so hard for people to believe that you guys writing reviews still have integrity? I seem to be the only person who still understands that reviewers are rating games both of objective and subjective grounds, and as such a reviewer might give a high-profile game a low score if that's what he/she honestly felt was deserved of the game.
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We give high-profile games lower-than-expected scores all the time. What do you think generates the most hate? It's actually an impossible situation. If I give a highly anticipated sequel a high score, I get bombarded with "you were paid off." If I give it a lower score, it's because I "didn't get it," or "I wasn't good at it," or "I am a fat gay freak." OK, that last thing might be true, but I don't want to hear about it!

We'll give it exactly what we believe it deserves. We've never been afraid of giving a lower score to a high-profile game. (If you don't believe me, check the comments on the Aliens Vs. Predator video review, or the ones on the Dante's Inferno video review, or on the Metroid Prime 3 review. See comments about FEAR 2 and Riddick: Dark Athena.)

I've got the balls to say exactly what I think. Shouldn't that be evident by now? ;)

Kevin-V

Man you are awesome. Keep coming to SW.:)

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#96 gago-gago
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Anything can happen but most likely it just depends on the games if they earn AAA or not. So far Bungie Halo games are AAA, it's an AAA franchise, I'm not sure about Final Fantasy though. I still don't understand how they come up with that score though. I mean other sites like IGN and GT have scores for graphics, gameplay, story and so on and it addes up to the overall score. I'm not sure how GameSpot chooses the score. They can praise the game but gives it a lower score and do the vice versa by talking more about the negatives but gives it a higher score.

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#97 Mythomniac
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Well, they did it to Twilight Princess, and they only gave ME2 a nine, gave 3 different scores for DA:O which was a fail.
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#98 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Yeah, GS would have the stones I belive ^^ IF they are gonna give below remains to be seen, since the games listed are likely not to be below AA (They might hit AA tho).

And ofcourse they will catch flak nomatter what they do, such is the nature of gamers :P

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#99 mtradr43
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ff13 will be AA here, its getting that all over the place. reach and gow3 are lockdowns for AAA, if you look at past performances.
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[QUOTE="Kevin-V"]

We give high-profile games lower-than-expected scores all the time. What do you think generates the most hate? It's actually an impossible situation. If I give a highly anticipated sequel a high score, I get bombarded with "you were paid off." If I give it a lower score, it's because I "didn't get it," or "I wasn't good at it," or "I am a fat gay freak." OK, that last thing might be true, but I don't want to hear about it!

We'll give it exactly what we believe it deserves. We've never been afraid of giving a lower score to a high-profile game. (If you don't believe me, check the comments on the Aliens Vs. Predator video review, or the ones on the Dante's Inferno video review, or on the Metroid Prime 3 review. See comments about FEAR 2 and Riddick: Dark Athena.)

I've got the balls to say exactly what I think. Shouldn't that be evident by now? ;)

Gambler_3

Man you are awesome. Keep coming to SW.:)

I agree! HAHA