BTW its not the 2nd most played game in the world...
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You should have just said that 10 pages ago and saved us all this trouble ;)[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]
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My logic is really flawed, I know.Â
senses_fail_06
Good to see that you weren't able to pick up on my facetious remark as it makes this much easier. Now I'd suggest deleting all of your posts in this thread, logging off for a while, and argue that your account was hacked whenever I inevitably throw this back in your face.
That is the only way you can save any face at this point.
C'ya around, dumbass.Â
Don't worry I picked up on it. I just love watching you squirm.But hey. Whatever you say kid. Just let me ask you this. Do you still think F2P doesn't count?
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
Don't worry I picked up on it. I just love watching you squirm.
But hey. Whatever you say kid. Just let me ask you this. Do you still think F2P doesn't count?
senses_fail_06
That wasn't what we were talking about.Â
Do you still think the moon landing was a hoax?
Both questions are irrelevant.
Let's just not rattle the cage and slowly walk the other way, k?Â
But it was. That was the entire point of arguing whether the rules have any vailidity. It was so we could use that as a metric to judge whether the game counted or not.Not you, that's for sure.[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]I'm unsure who that's in reference to. Not like either of us did anything but look like an idiot for the last half of the thread.
senses_fail_06
You got something to say to me dude? Stop being a puss and say it.
But I already said it :|[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
But it was. That was the entire point of arguing whether the rules have any vailidity. It was so we could use that as a metric to judge whether the game counted or not.
senses_fail_06
Talk about not knowing when to quit...
This is what you wrote:
"That's because you joined after the discussions on how the rules would work were held. Do you think people just stuck the rules up there for no reason? That shit isn't just something that gets ignored as much as you wish it was, it's the metric for our little metagame that was decided by the community. Don't like it? Don't play. Don't talk about ownage or AAAE's or what does and does not count because you aren't a part of any of it."
That's what you have been dodging for 3 plus pages now.
No I already conceded the point, I can't provide concrete evidence, it is impossible. The threads where the ideas were (or were not) created have been removed. If it makes you sleep better at night, you can say you won that discussion.Now, can you say if you think F2P games count?
[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]lol,I think anyone with two functioning eyes will see it´s the other way around.Senses destroying Vaasman as usual :cool:
MrYaotubo
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We almost made a comeback in Dota 2 just a while ago. ALMOST. We let Rikki get too high and he thrashed our team.
Praise Lord Gaben and his company for providing us with yet another free, flawless exclusive that provides us with tons of fun. It's really nice having something amazing (and free) to play. If we didn't have all these great games, we might go on forums and complain about something asinine and irrelevant! :o
We almost made a comeback in Dota 2 just a while ago. ALMOST. We let Rikki get too high and he thrashed our team.
Praise Lord Gaben and his company for providing us with yet another free, flawless exclusive that provides us with tons of fun. It's really nice having something amazing (and free) to play. If we didn't have all these great games, we might go on forums and complain about something asinine and irrelevant! :o
ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
No I already conceded the point, I can't provide concrete evidence, it is impossible. If it makes you sleep better at night, you can say you won that discussion.
Can you say if you think F2P games count?
senses_fail_06
Great, so we agree.Â
I've repeatedly said I won't argue if F2P games do/do not count with you. You don't have a solid enough handle on how SW works. We've discussed this again and again.Â
I see no need to continue.Â
It was a simple yes or no question, no need for a discussion. Do you still think F2P games do not count?[QUOTE="rjdofu"]
But I already said it :|senses_fail_06
Like a lil bitch. Neither of us even knew who were you referring to.Â
Feel free to point out this "destruction" you're alluding to, or get a twitter and keep your emotional outbreaks there you tw@t.Â
:lol:, look at this clown, why so upset boy?I've repeatedly said I won't argue if F2P games do/do not count with you. You don't have a solid enough handle on how SW works. We've discussed this again and again.Â
I see no need to continue.Â
senses_fail_06
You don't get to decide what counts or what doesn't. F2P games count and reviewers don't give a damn if they're free or paid. The only bearing that has is on the score for being very open with how they charge for things or how restrictive/Pay2Win the game is.
So is that a Yes or a No?[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]
Agreed.Â
senses_fail_06
It's a yes, you need to learn more about the way SW works.
and no, I have no interest in discussing something I've gone over again and again in this thread.Â
You should become a politician, you dodge the question so beautifully!I don't think you can say that with any confidence.Â
senses_fail_06
We already know what you think is wrong.
Look at the Neverwinter review. KevinV had a section where he talked about the effects of real money on the game. Aside from that, he never mentioned anything about it being F2P and reviewed it as he would any other game. With the Dota 2 review, the only time F2P is mentioned is when Martin says how it separates itself from LoL and how it's similar to TF2 with the crates. Never once did they say being F2P affected the quality or score. They also didn't say that if it were retail priced, the score would be different.
F2P games matter just as much as any other game on any other platform. Nothing you say changes that.
He's directly comparing it to other F2P games and other games in its respective genre (as per the review guide, which I have brought up numerous times).
I mean does he really need to explicitly say "this game would be scored lower if I had to pay $60" for you to believe that? It's a pretty ridiculous argument for obvious reasons. In that case, every review should read, "this should be counted in the metagame on SW". It's like the people who justified robbing people online because "it was never specifically stated that robbing people online was illegal".Â
senses_fail_06
No where does it say X F2P game is better than Y F2P game because X does this and that. The comparison to LoL is about a game mechanic that doesn't exist in LoL. It just happens to be a F2P game as well. Any Moba that requires a paid entry is dead before release, so there's nothing else for them to use when a comparison is needed.
If the reasons are obvious, why can't you state them? The reviewers don't need to state anything of the sort because only you believe F2P games are held to a different standard that invalidates it from being counted. Your second statement is nothing like this discussion. Do MMOs not count because they're all going towards the F2P model now? Are FPSes and other shooters not going to count because they found a bigger and more profitable market with F2P? Well shit, half of the games at PS4's launch aren't gonna be counted because one poster thinks F2P isn't qualified for the metagame like boxed $60 games are.
One more thing which your misguided mind cannot comprehend. "We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres" does not mean that a 9.0 Moba game matters less than a 9.0 action-adventure game because action-adventure games have huge budgets and expectations from consumers. Both of those 9.0s speak the same volume. If you took the time to read past your selective ability, you would've found "However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards."
And another thing, "Our editorial staff consists of discerning, value-conscious game players," does not take into consideration only cash. Cash is not the only thing that has value. Time has just as much value, if not more. If a game takes forever to get to the good chunks, then it's reflected in the review and ultimately, the score. If a game only lasts a few hours with no replayability, then it's reflected in the review. Dota 2 takes no time and no money to get to the good stuff. The only thing that takes time is refining your skill.
Not you, that's for sure.[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]I'm unsure who that's in reference to. Not like either of us did anything but look like an idiot for the last half of the thread.
senses_fail_06
You got something to say to me dude? Stop being a puss and say it.
Jesus Christ what is wrong with you?Â
Bottom line is DoTA 2 counts, AAAE, one of the most played games across any system, high production values, incredibly deep. consoles lose.
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