Dragon's Crown GameSpot Review-'Some offensive and unavoidable character design'

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#51 Vaasman
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All I hope is that this kind of thing doesn't catch on by the time Bayonetta 2 is out.

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#52 megaspiderweb09
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Even if Gamespot scored it 0, i would still get this awesome dungeon crawler for the Vita, cannot wait for Europe release

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#53 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="Kjranu"]where are teh gifs?? thread is worthless without the aforementioned 'offensive' items shown. ReadingRainbow4

I haven't been this offended since 2 girls 1 cup.

:cool: DO WANT
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#54 DJ-Lafleur
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While I'm not offended by the art-styl personally, and don't necessarily mind some sex appeal in my entertainment media, I do find it stupid when devs go overboard and make the sex appeal so blatantly obvious like Dragon's Crown did, as if they were trying as hard as possible to make the game as sexual as possible to try and increase sales from young teenagers going through puberty.

Maybe some critics are going overboard in their criticism, and I don't think such art-styles should be censored, but TBH, I do see how some people might not exactly be able to appreciate something like Dragon Crown's art.

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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"][QUOTE="Blabadon"]Who's buying it?DrTrafalgarLaw
It's one of the extremely rare non-ported/non-HDRemake Vita games, so I might have to get it.

Price?

Overpriced unfortunately.
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While I'm not offended by the art-styl personally, and don't necessarily mind some sex appeal in my entertainment media, I do find it stupid when devs go overboard and make the sex appeal so blatantly obvious like Dragon's Crown did, as if they were trying as hard as possible to make the game as sexual as possible to try and increase sales from young teenagers going through puberty.

Maybe some critics are going overboard in their criticism, and I don't think such art-styles should be censored, but TBH, I do see how some people might not exactly be able to appreciate something like Dragon Crown's art.

DJ-Lafleur

it's not because of that, it's the inspiration material. there's a very clear source of inspiration, but because Frank Frazetta's works were often more explicit, i'll refer from posting pics here. you might know him from the time he drew the art of a certain barbarian.

 

it's lewd, yes, but intentionally so, and that's not a bad thing, and DEFINITELY not to cater to teenagers. if lewd was a bad thing, we'd have quite a few famous renaissance paintings to deal with.

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#57 BrunoBRS
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bouncy

5m6.gif

Game actually looks solid.

wolverine4262

aaw come on, her running animation is adorable. look at that face, and how she holds her oversized hat to keep it from flying off.

 

on a side note, it would be much weirder if they didn't bounce. but i guess big breasts are satan now.

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#58 foxhound_fox
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Big boobs are offensive? :lol:
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Big boobs are offensive? :lol:

It's not just big boobs, look how much ankle they show as well.
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#60 foxhound_fox
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lolVideoGameJounalismLionheart08
It's the new fad to be PC feminist.
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#61 foxhound_fox
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It's not just big boobs, look how much ankle they show as well. LustForSoul
 Also relevant: [spoiler]  [/spoiler]
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#62 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Big boobs are offensive? :lol:

Same thing I was thinking. :cool: Big boobs are a gift from the gods. Everyone likes them, even women too.
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And now we wait for Carolyn's inevitable article about the art....wonderful...Jing16

 

just mad because he/she will never be objectafied

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Why do big boobs hurt peoples feelings?

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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]lolVideoGameJounalismfoxhound_fox
It's the new fad to be PC feminist.

My thing is, I'm not even upset over them taking note of the ridiculousness. I just find it odd that journalist only now seem to care about taking a stand to the "niche titles" and not big budget video games.

Where was this outrage when Miranda's ass was magnetically drawn to the screen in Mass Effect 2? What about Cole-Trains over the top characterization in Gears of War? 

I bet if Atlus had bought ad space, this wouldn't even be an issue. :P

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#66 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Did Sniper review this? Guess what guys, breasts exist. They're natural. They move us along as a species. Why are they so offensive, yet we'll turn around and celebrate violence? Can't wait for the next shoot the foreigner of the week to get a 9.0,
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#67 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]Did Sniper review this? Guess what guys, breasts exist. They're natural. They move us along as a species. Why are they so offensive, yet we'll turn around and celebrate violence? Can't wait for the next shoot the foreigner of the week to get a 9.0,

Dude, troll that user with me in the PS4 and PS Vita thread.
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#68 Some-Mist
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dunno if anyone actually read/watched the review, but it really wasn't that bad of a review and the title of the topic is one of two bad things they had to say about the game.
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What a load of bollocks.

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#70 finalfantasy94
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They put that in the bad section? WTF! ugh people like this make me freaking sick. If I could slap this reviewer I would cause putting that as a negative is proboly the stupidist things iv heard and deserves a good slap to the face. Im sorry but reviewers like this piss me off to no end.

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#71 finalfantasy94
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All I hope is that this kind of thing doesn't catch on by the time Bayonetta 2 is out.

Vaasman

Funny thing is bayonetta 1 got zero slack for the sexyness but now all of a sudden its wrong. Is he trying to impress some females or something complainging about the design.

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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]

http://www.gamespot.com/dragons-crown/reviews/dragons-crown-review-6412299/

[spoiler] 8.0 [/spoiler]

inb4 buh Carolyn is the feminist one!

crimsonman1245

Big boobs are considered offensive now?

it offends the flat chested ones
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If only the developers had the foresight to dress the female characters in this game with full-body hijabs. Then it would surely get a 10/10 here. princeofshapeir
I spit water in laughter.
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#74 strawhatlupi
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maybe the revier thinks the big boob is a weapon
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#75 finalfantasy94
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The feedbackula for this game is going to be wonderful since I know most of the comments would be about this reviwers fear of big boobs.

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#76 rilpas
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The boobz are lewd and potentially offensive! *shows several examples of boobz* :lol:
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[QUOTE="Jing16"]And now we wait for Carolyn's inevitable article about the art....wonderful...CDWJUSTIN

 

just mad because he/she will never be objectafied

Go f*ck yourself. That has nothing to do with why she goes a overboard every now and then.

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#78 Blabadon
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The feedbackula for this game is going to be wonderful since I know most of the comments would be about this reviwers fear of big boobs.

finalfantasy94
Yesssss, I can't wait for that
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Great score and anohter world class game stuffed into the already barn bursting amount that Sony fans enjoy. Day 1. and lol at the soft pron comment in review.
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

The feedbackula for this game is going to be wonderful since I know most of the comments would be about this reviwers fear of big boobs.

Blabadon
Yesssss, I can't wait for that

i just hope they highlight at least one comment pointing out that sexualization of characers was not an issue to anyone except in this game. and at least this game was consistent and threw over-sexualization both ways.
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#81 campzor
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fair score. Though 'offensive and unavoidable character design' as 'the bad' is a crock of ****. More reasons not to even listen to reviewers. Their job is to review the GAME, not the characters breasts.
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Like I said in the other thread, this political correctness needs to die. clyde46
Or at least be applied equally. Reviewers are quick to point out these "negative" things in niche Japanese titles, but oddly enough they tend to flat-out overlook them in blockbuster games like GTA and Mass Effect.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Like I said in the other thread, this political correctness needs to die. Bigboi500

Or at least be applied equally. Reviewers are quick to point out these "negative" things in niche Japanese titles, but oddly enough they tend to flat-out overlook them in blockbuster games like GTA and Mass Effect.

or any game that isn't dragon's crown, really. i can think of numerous examples of games that portrayed women (and only women) with ridiculous proportions, but dragon's crown (the game that has everyone with unrealistic proportions regardless of gender) is the only game that gets called out for it in the reviews. it's come to a point where it's media bullying.
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#84 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Like I said in the other thread, this political correctness needs to die. BrunoBRS

Or at least be applied equally. Reviewers are quick to point out these "negative" things in niche Japanese titles, but oddly enough they tend to flat-out overlook them in blockbuster games like GTA and Mass Effect.

or any game that isn't dragon's crown, really. i can think of numerous examples of games that portrayed women (and only women) with ridiculous proportions, but dragon's crown (the game that has everyone with unrealistic proportions regardless of gender) is the only game that gets called out for it in the reviews. it's come to a point where it's media bullying.

Caro did something similar in the Project X Zone review a few weeks ago. She talked about sexist dialog in the game and spotlighted it as a negative... this shit is getting way out of hand, and would seem to be Western reviewers' new half-baked ammo.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Or at least be applied equally. Reviewers are quick to point out these "negative" things in niche Japanese titles, but oddly enough they tend to flat-out overlook them in blockbuster games like GTA and Mass Effect.

Bigboi500

or any game that isn't dragon's crown, really. i can think of numerous examples of games that portrayed women (and only women) with ridiculous proportions, but dragon's crown (the game that has everyone with unrealistic proportions regardless of gender) is the only game that gets called out for it in the reviews. it's come to a point where it's media bullying.

Caro did something similar in the Project X Zone review a few weeks ago. She talked about sexist dialog in the game and spotlighted it as a negative... this shit is getting way out of hand, and would seem to be Western reviewers' new half-baked ammo.

i've seen carolyn drop a stupid comment here and there on her reviews (like the image caption on the revelations review), but never stop and take her time to write a whole paragraph about how it "stains" the game and "feels like a betrayal". checked the project X zone review, she's complaining more that the dialogue feels poorly written and cliche, not sexist, and her examples actually match the description.
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] or any game that isn't dragon's crown, really. i can think of numerous examples of games that portrayed women (and only women) with ridiculous proportions, but dragon's crown (the game that has everyone with unrealistic proportions regardless of gender) is the only game that gets called out for it in the reviews. it's come to a point where it's media bullying.BrunoBRS

Caro did something similar in the Project X Zone review a few weeks ago. She talked about sexist dialog in the game and spotlighted it as a negative... this shit is getting way out of hand, and would seem to be Western reviewers' new half-baked ammo.

i've seen carolyn drop a stupid comment here and there on her reviews (like the image caption on the revelations review), but never stop and take her time to write a whole paragraph about how it "stains" the game and "feels like a betrayal". checked the project X zone review, she's complaining more that the dialogue feels poorly written and cliche, not sexist, and her examples actually match the description.

Either way it's knit-picking nonsense. I know that technically, reviews are supposed to be boiled down for everyone, namely casuals who are the largest group of customers for anything, but to be perfectly honest a game like that is made for a specific group of people who either like or don't mind that kind of Japanese quirkiness.

Those comments that are in reference are during a very early portion of the game, which makes me wonder if she actually played the game, or just read a highlighted list from one of her assistants? I'm getting off-topic here, so I'll shut up now.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Or at least be applied equally. Reviewers are quick to point out these "negative" things in niche Japanese titles, but oddly enough they tend to flat-out overlook them in blockbuster games like GTA and Mass Effect.

Bigboi500

or any game that isn't dragon's crown, really. i can think of numerous examples of games that portrayed women (and only women) with ridiculous proportions, but dragon's crown (the game that has everyone with unrealistic proportions regardless of gender) is the only game that gets called out for it in the reviews. it's come to a point where it's media bullying.

Caro did something similar in the Project X Zone review a few weeks ago. She talked about sexist dialog in the game and spotlighted it as a negative... this shit is getting way out of hand, and would seem to be Western reviewers' new half-baked ammo.

im tired of this feminist bs. if they want a politically correct games, then they should make one. lets see how will that thing fly.
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] or any game that isn't dragon's crown, really. i can think of numerous examples of games that portrayed women (and only women) with ridiculous proportions, but dragon's crown (the game that has everyone with unrealistic proportions regardless of gender) is the only game that gets called out for it in the reviews. it's come to a point where it's media bullying.strawhatlupi

Caro did something similar in the Project X Zone review a few weeks ago. She talked about sexist dialog in the game and spotlighted it as a negative... this shit is getting way out of hand, and would seem to be Western reviewers' new half-baked ammo.

im tired of this feminist bs. if they want a politically correct games, then they should make one. lets see how will that thing fly.

they don't want a politically correct game. they want a game with no mention of women, or if they do show up, that they are indistinguishable from men in any way. the violence, gore, and language can stay, the problem here is women. they have breasts, and breasts are sexy, and sexy is bad. so no women, or women that you can't even tell are women. note i'm not saying women should be scantly clad melon bearers. but we're getting to the point that anything other than a flat chested, fully armored (not clothed, ARMORED), gruff voiced woman with short hair is considered sexist. people called sexism on samus taking her f*cking helmet off.
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This just looks so amazing!!!! Between this and Pikmin 3 this will be a busy week for me!

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Lol "pornography" and "betrayal."

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[QUOTE="strawhatlupi"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Caro did something similar in the Project X Zone review a few weeks ago. She talked about sexist dialog in the game and spotlighted it as a negative... this shit is getting way out of hand, and would seem to be Western reviewers' new half-baked ammo.

BrunoBRS

im tired of this feminist bs. if they want a politically correct games, then they should make one. lets see how will that thing fly.

they don't want a politically correct game. they want a game with no mention of women, or if they do show up, that they are indistinguishable from men in any way. the violence, gore, and language can stay, the problem here is women. they have breasts, and breasts are sexy, and sexy is bad. so no women, or women that you can't even tell are women. note i'm not saying women should be scantly clad melon bearers. but we're getting to the point that anything other than a flat chested, fully armored (not clothed, ARMORED), gruff voiced woman with short hair is considered sexist. people called sexism on samus taking her f*cking helmet off.

this is very true.

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#92 Sagem28
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Why are big bouncing bewbies a negative point ?

Seriously ?
Whats is this ? Saudi Arabia ?

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#93 DarkLink77
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Kind of a stupid complaint, but it's his opinion. It's not like no one saw this backlash coming pre-release.

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Hey politically correct people!  Why you hate female bodies?

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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

While I'm not offended by the art-styl personally, and don't necessarily mind some sex appeal in my entertainment media, I do find it stupid when devs go overboard and make the sex appeal so blatantly obvious like Dragon's Crown did, as if they were trying as hard as possible to make the game as sexual as possible to try and increase sales from young teenagers going through puberty.

Maybe some critics are going overboard in their criticism, and I don't think such art-styles should be censored, but TBH, I do see how some people might not exactly be able to appreciate something like Dragon Crown's art.

BrunoBRS

it's not because of that, it's the inspiration material. there's a very clear source of inspiration, but because Frank Frazetta's works were often more explicit, i'll refer from posting pics here. you might know him from the time he drew the art of a certain barbarian.

 

it's lewd, yes, but intentionally so, and that's not a bad thing, and DEFINITELY not to cater to teenagers. if lewd was a bad thing, we'd have quite a few famous renaissance paintings to deal with.

I was unaware about the inspiration when making that post, so I guess the art-style isn't as silly as I did originally. 

Still find the sorceress' massive melons ridiculous though, whether they were inspired by frank Frazetta or not.

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I tend to not be offended by or avoid t!ts and ass

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It flopped, but i am still buying it

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#98 OneInchMan99
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Whats offensive about boobs,everyone loves boobs don't they?

Does this mean the bigger boobs are the more offensive they are?

Thats strange cos the bigger boobs are the more appealing I find them.:)

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It flopped, but i am still buying it

loosingENDS
was there even a hype thread for the game?
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#100 JangoWuzHere
Member since 2007 • 19032 Posts

I wouldn't find it offensive, but I could find it really distracting and out of place.