Dragon's Crown GameSpot Review-'Some offensive and unavoidable character design'

i look at that character and it does nothing for me, i think it looks a little stupid but it doesnt affect me on any emotional level.

why is it that the people making the reviews bad because of it cant ignore it like me and just enjoy the game?

SO WHAT?!! 

WE NEED MORE OF THOSE ( . Y . ) !!! :cool:

Anybody else notice that the only two negative reviews listed on metacritic are both written by females? Hmmmm....

Master_ShakeXXX

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Anybody else notice that the only two negative reviews listed on metacritic are both written by females? Hmmmm....

Xaero_Gravity

I've taken a fancy to it myself. Think I will hold onto this one for a while.

Ordered from Amazon still hasn't shipped yet =(. Dam you no EU Version. won't be able to play for 2 weeks or so.

Out of curiosity, can anybody that says that the Dragon's Crown female characters are offensive; can they articulate where that actually makes sense. Because even on an intellectual level one can't really make the claim that the developers depiction of gender roles diminishes the female gender role of one of submission to patriarchal propriety. Can they articulate that the depiction of women reinforces female patriarchal propriety? After all when people throw around "objectification" that's really what "objectification" really is. If they're just going to critic the utilization of sex appeal then "exploitation" is the more proper critical terminology, and as far as "exploitation" criticism goes that criticism really only stands if the piece is void of any artistic merit. And it would be even more absurd on its face to claim that a fantasy title reinforces "unrealistic expectations". I get the feeling people say they're offended by this because they think society expects of them, not because some part of them is genuinely offended.lamprey263

Just boils down to the last remnants of western religious ethics. Sexuality is still too scary for some, even when it's fake and victimless.

It's like some people want to bring back the Index Librorum Prohibitorum or something.

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

It flopped, but i am still buying it

loosingENDS

That is the problem with gaming, really good games dont get attention

Isn't it only a few characters? If so, don't play as them.  Although I agree the designs are quite ridiculous, getting so ass mad about it does nothing.

But I fail to see why they should be designed that way in the first place. I don;t know about anyone else, but I don't find animated characters sexually arousing, so I don't see the point.

I have no problem if the reviewer feels like its a worse game to him personally but he needs to understand that not everyone will be phased by it and it shouldn't be listed as lowering the quality of the game. That would be like me doing a professional review of Bioshock Infinite and grading it lower because I was offended by the religious themes present in it. I can certainly mention that it put me off in the review but in no way would it make sense to deduct points from it.

I don't mind the exaggerated characatures of women and men in the game, but I am kind of irked by the weird touching sequences that I saw in this japanese trailer. They just seem so out of place and not really vital to the gameplay. I don't have much context on them, but it just gives me a really sketchy vibe. Overall though the the game looks great and it's not like Vanillaware hasn't made exaggerated character models before. People in this field just seem to latch on to keywords, phrases, and ideas and run with it, even if they're not entirely right.

I mean everyone mentions the Sorceress and Amazon because of their bust sizes, but those are powerful women who can handle their own. Sure they might have unrealistic proportions, but I wouldn't say they are degrading women. On the same note, journalists might have an argument if they picked the half-naked spirit who is chained up and is being 'poked' by the player to the as she lets out a moan; something that doesn't really seem to fit. Of course, the barbarian can also be touched and the goblin chef, both of whom I find equally uneasy about.

I don't mind the exaggerated characatures of women and men in the game, but I am kind of irked by the weird touching sequences that I saw in this japanese trailer. They just seem so out of place and not really vital to the gameplay. I don't have much context on them, but it just gives me a really sketchy vibe. Overall though the the game looks great and it's not like Vanillaware hasn't made exaggerated character models before. People in this field just seem to latch on to keywords, phrases, and ideas and run with it, even if they're not entirely right.

I mean everyone mentions the Sorceress and Amazon because of their bust sizes, but those are powerful women who can handle their own. Sure they might have unrealistic proportions, but I wouldn't say they are degrading women. On the same note, journalists might have an argument if they picked the half-naked spirit who is chained up and is being 'poked' by the player to the as she lets out a moan; something that doesn't really seem to fit. Of course, the barbarian can also be touched and the goblin chef, both of whom I find equally uneasy about.

Minishdriveby

Like I said in the other thread, this political correctness needs to die. clyde46

Peter Brown is actually carolyn in his downtime.

ReadingRainbow4

Seriously. **** pussies.Chutebox

I'm buying this shit day 1. Dat Amazon is freakin crazy. Defo gonna be playing as her first.

I'm buying this shit day 1. Dat Amazon is freakin crazy. Defo gonna be playing as her first.

Master_ShakeXXX

Gamespot clearly doew not know their target audience that well. 90% of the forum sigs have boobs in them.

Seriously though, I am tired of this politically correct garbage. If a game is "offensive", then to some people that is a good thing. Does Gamespot want to be Christwire? 

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

Peter Brown is actually carolyn in his downtime.

-Unreal-

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

I don't mind the exaggerated characatures of women and men in the game, but I am kind of irked by the weird touching sequences that I saw in this japanese trailer. They just seem so out of place and not really vital to the gameplay. I don't have much context on them, but it just gives me a really sketchy vibe. Overall though the the game looks great and it's not like Vanillaware hasn't made exaggerated character models before. People in this field just seem to latch on to keywords, phrases, and ideas and run with it, even if they're not entirely right.

I mean everyone mentions the Sorceress and Amazon because of their bust sizes, but those are powerful women who can handle their own. Sure they might have unrealistic proportions, but I wouldn't say they are degrading women. On the same note, journalists might have an argument if they picked the half-naked spirit who is chained up and is being 'poked' by the player to the as she lets out a moan; something that doesn't really seem to fit. Of course, the barbarian can also be touched and the goblin chef, both of whom I find equally uneasy about.

Kaz_Son

I got it downloaded onto my PS3. I'll give it a whirl after I finish Max Payne 3.

So far I've been neither offended nor aroused... I think I'm doing it wrong.

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Looks like i'll be getting the game this cmoing Tuesday afterall.. Futureshop having a deal where get the vita version for free after trading in 1 game so i'll trade 1 game and get this baby on Vita for free :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

mojito1988

Sir I am sorry but you fail to understand. These boobies/behinds need to be on the big screen! Ps3 all the way!

So far I've been neither offended nor aroused... I think I'm doing it wrong.

syztem

On the plus side he gets to see them on the go.mitu123

This seems to be the Flavour of the Month for video game "journalists" to get upset about these days (the whole being-offended-by-depictions-of-females-in-games thing).  Ten years ago, they were up in arms whenever an RPG featured random encounters, and a few years ago, they just couldn't stand it if games weren't "open-world" like GTA.  That being said, the art-style's a bit too over the top for me (literally and figuratively ;)).  Still didn't stop me from buying it today; this game's gonna take up some time for me!

You know what's sad is GS gave CoD MW2 a 9.0, which if any one doesn't remember has a scene where you massacre a bunch of civilians in a Airport, but hey bouncing breasts seems to be more inappropriate than killing civilians....

Oh gaming journalism have you fallen.

You know what's sad is GS gave CoD MW2 a 9.0, which if any one doesn't remember has a scene where you massacre a bunch of civilians in a Airport, but hey bouncing breasts seems to be more inappropriate than killing civilians....

Oh gaming journalism have you fallen.

Ballroompirate

You know what's sad is GS gave CoD MW2 a 9.0, which if any one doesn't remember has a scene where you massacre a bunch of civilians in a Airport, but hey bouncing breasts seems to be more inappropriate than killing civilians....

Oh gaming journalism have you fallen.

Ballroompirate

That would imply that it ever rose anywhere above rock bottom.Vaasman

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

You know what's sad is GS gave CoD MW2 a 9.0, which if any one doesn't remember has a scene where you massacre a bunch of civilians in a Airport, but hey bouncing breasts seems to be more inappropriate than killing civilians....

Oh gaming journalism have you fallen.

foxhound_fox

It's best when it's a surprise.

Trust me

You know what's sad is GS gave CoD MW2 a 9.0, which if any one doesn't remember has a scene where you massacre a bunch of civilians in a Airport, but hey bouncing breasts seems to be more inappropriate than killing civilians....

Oh gaming journalism have you fallen.

Ballroompirate

There's a comment about the female characters having big boobs, but not one about the dwarf who is just a humungous, bulging mass of muscles, and the fighter who has an enormous upper body.

Ly_the_Fairy

While I'm not offended by the art-styl personally, and don't necessarily mind some sex appeal in my entertainment media, I do find it stupid when devs go overboard and make the sex appeal so blatantly obvious like Dragon's Crown did, as if they were trying as hard as possible to make the game as sexual as possible to try and increase sales from young teenagers going through puberty.

Maybe some critics are going overboard in their criticism, and I don't think such art-styles should be censored, but TBH, I do see how some people might not exactly be able to appreciate something like Dragon Crown's art.

DJ-Lafleur

This seems to be the Flavour of the Month for video game "journalists" to get upset about these days (the whole being-offended-by-depictions-of-females-in-games thing).  Ten years ago, they were up in arms whenever an RPG featured random encounters, and a few years ago, they just couldn't stand it if games weren't "open-world" like GTA.  That being said, the art-style's a bit too over the top for me (literally and figuratively ;)).  Still didn't stop me from buying it today; this game's gonna take up some time for me!

svetzenlether

[QUOTE="svetzenlether"]

This seems to be the Flavour of the Month for video game "journalists" to get upset about these days (the whole being-offended-by-depictions-of-females-in-games thing).  Ten years ago, they were up in arms whenever an RPG featured random encounters, and a few years ago, they just couldn't stand it if games weren't "open-world" like GTA.  That being said, the art-style's a bit too over the top for me (literally and figuratively ;)).  Still didn't stop me from buying it today; this game's gonna take up some time for me!

BrunoBRS

Already have the Famitsu DX Pack for this game for my PS3...it's been so much fun so far :)

Bump. Game is badass.

Bump. Game is badass.

Master_ShakeXXX

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="svetzenlether"]

This seems to be the Flavour of the Month for video game "journalists" to get upset about these days (the whole being-offended-by-depictions-of-females-in-games thing).  Ten years ago, they were up in arms whenever an RPG featured random encounters, and a few years ago, they just couldn't stand it if games weren't "open-world" like GTA.  That being said, the art-style's a bit too over the top for me (literally and figuratively ;)).  Still didn't stop me from buying it today; this game's gonna take up some time for me!

MrGeezer

I don't think I've ever met a girl who is actually "offended" by this kind of thing. Anyway - since when did offending people become such a crime?PernicioEnigma

From the Responses I have seen it is usually White Males telling women what they can or can not be offended by, or uneducated tumbler feminists.

If only the developers had the foresight to dress the female characters in this game with full-body hijabs. Then it would surely get a 10/10 here. princeofshapeir

That pic of the Sorceress giving her "magic staff" an assjob is comedy gold. :lol:

All Im gonna say is Dragons Crown is god tier... its so good.  I think I played for 8 hours today and I just want more.

All Im gonna say is Dragons Crown is god tier... its so good.  I think I played for 8 hours today and I just want more.

TheEroica