EA Crysis Machine. $700.

Yea rite what a BS topic ! I have the exact same rig.Except my Graphic card is better (9800GTX) still cant play Crysis maxed out on a 30+ average frame rate.lesner87

yes you can just without AA. you should still be able to play very high at an hd resolution at 30fps

Hey I havent played games on PC in forever so just a couple quick questions. If anyone can help me it would be great.

Would this PC play new games for a few years? or need a upgrade with in a year or two?

Would this PC be good for non gaming functions? (My girlfriend does a lot of art programs and stuff like that)

If I built this myself (yes I have done it before, only like 9 years ago lol. Voodoo 5 lol) how much could I save?

If this thing can be gtg for a few years I might pick it up. I want a new home PC and instead of spending $400 on a crap pc I would rather spend $700 on something I could game on.

SpideR_CentS

I can't think of 1 game in the foreseeable future where you won't be able to either max or run the game on one of the highest settings(Clear Sky is the particular case.... simply because according to early performance reviews for it the game uses 2GB of System RAM and 1GB of vRAM on the DX10 settings... And that is just the game, throw in OS and you need a minimum of 3GB to max Clear Sky. And a Radeon 4870X2....)

Other than Clear Sky, I don't see a single game not ending up maxable on that rig at 1280x1024 resolution coming out any time in the next year. As far as running games on good settings, you ought to be set until 2011-2012 based on the way things are going currently...

[QUOTE="lesner87"]Yea rite what a BS topic ! I have the exact same rig.Except my Graphic card is better (9800GTX) still cant play Crysis maxed out on a 30+ average frame rate.blues35301

yes you can just without AA. you should still be able to play very high at an hd resolution at 30fps

I have a 8800 GTX and I can run the game at 1280x1024 resolution, no AA, all Very High and average about 29FPS, which is suprisingly playable. A 9800 GT should be able to run slightly better.

2GB ram? yuck

250gb storage? yuck

and dualcore 2.66GHz? yuck

That's supposed to be a Crysis machine?

SSCyborg

My pc is just not even 1/5th of that...:?

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

2GB ram? yuck

250gb storage? yuck

and dualcore 2.66GHz? yuck

That's supposed to be a Crysis machine?

ProductNumber49

My pc is just not even 1/5th of that...:?

he was just trolling...

Like all the other people who said 2GB wasn't enough to run the game on High settings on Vista.....

So many anti-PC trolls on this forum.

[QUOTE="ProductNumber49"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

2GB ram? yuck

250gb storage? yuck

and dualcore 2.66GHz? yuck

That's supposed to be a Crysis machine?

horrowhip

My pc is just not even 1/5th of that...:?

he was just trolling...

Like all the other people who said 2GB wasn't enough to run the game on High settings on Vista.....

So many anti-PC trolls on this forum.

lawl i can max crysis with 1.1gigs of ram

I believe nothing until I see benchmarks on that rig.

To whom it may concern, there aren't very many Crysis "very high" benchmarks. But THIS is quite extensive. organic_machine

for reference that benchmark is sh--.

I get a full 30% higher FPS(I get around 29FPS on 880GTX) average than that benchmark would suggest.

I believe nothing until I see benchmarks on that rig.

Hoobinator

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

I believe nothing until I see benchmarks on that rig.

mastershake575

8800 GTS 640MB is only playable at DX9, High Settings, at 1024x768 resolution, which is below 720p. Average 30fps.

Source 1 Benchmark.

DX9, 1280x1024, slightly higher than 720p. Shaders, Shadow, Post Processing all at MEDIUM. Everything else on HIGH. Average 33fps.

Source 2 Benchmark.

Crysis just about runs okay at roughly 720p at mostly high, with some medium settings on a 8800 GTS 640MB. And a 9800GT is only a small improvement, it's not really a step up from an 8800GT. So yeah I think we should wait for benchmarks before accepting Cryteks or EA's word. They've been known to exaggerate before. Remember Crysis gets steadily more unplayable in the later levels.

Warhead is more optimised but at the same time is bound to be pushing the hardware at the higher levels even more.

[QUOTE="lantus"]Does that machine max Crysis Warhead? What about the original Crysis?Ninja-Hippo

No. No current PC can max Crysis. It was made with future machines in mind. The PC from EA will run the game to a standard which looks amazing however; certainly better than anything on consoles.

They said it will run Warhead on High settings at 30 FPS.

250gb storage? yuck

That's supposed to be a Crysis machine?

SSCyborg

The Crysis install can't fit on a 250gb hard drive? They said "Crysis Machine" not "File Server".

this is a great deal, I think.

the only thing I'd want to know are:

brand of mobo

expansion slots for memory and PCI

this may be the kind of thing that brings me back home to desktop computing.

(but probably not)

couldn't i build that rig myself for a cheaper price?

either way....$700 is still a lot. better then what most consolites think, but still a lot

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

I believe nothing until I see benchmarks on that rig.

Hoobinator

8800 GTS 640MB is only playable at DX9, High Settings, at 1024x768 resolution, which is below 720p. Average 30fps.

Source 1 Benchmark.

DX9, 1280x1024, slightly higher than 720p. Shaders, Shadow, Post Processing all at MEDIUM. Everything else on HIGH. Average 33fps.

Source 2 Benchmark.

Crysis just about runs okay at roughly 720p at mostly high, with some medium settings on a 8800 GTS 640MB. And a 9800GT is only a small improvement, it's not really a step up from an 8800GT. So yeah I think we should wait for benchmarks before accepting Cryteks or EA's word. They've been known to exaggerate before. Remember Crysis gets steadily more unplayable in the later levels.

Warhead is more optimised but at the same time is bound to be pushing the hardware at the higher levels even more.

Source 1 The 8800GT is averaging 45-50FPS on high settings with no patches or recent drivers

Source 2 Same thing as the last one(outdatted drivers/patches) yet it shows it can get over 30fps at 1900x1200 which is a very high resolution and MUCH MUCH higher than 1024x768 (close to 3x time the pixels if not more)

Source 3 24fps average on very high settings with launch day resources and a higher resolution than 720p which could bring the FPS up by at least 5 just by that

Source 4 25fps average with the same outdatted resources and 2x the pixels as 1024x768

Source 5 It shows a comparable 8800GTS getting almost 40fps on very high settings at a higher resolution than 720p...... Notice how the article is a little more recent when there where better patches/drivers ?

To sum it up ive spent 2 year in the pc hardware forum at gamespot and have seen single handed reviews in the pc gaming union and what I said is exactly true. Crysis now a days isn't that big of a deal as people make it seem. Based on your older reviews techincally my old 4-5 generation x1900xt is better than a 8800GTS since when I popped it in before getting my new card it gave better results than what you listed........ Not to mention tens of people have said in quote at my time here "the 8800GT can run very high settings" including 2-3 people just in this thread who own one personally

[QUOTE="blues35301"]

[QUOTE="lesner87"]Yea rite what a BS topic ! I have the exact same rig.Except my Graphic card is better (9800GTX) still cant play Crysis maxed out on a 30+ average frame rate.horrowhip

yes you can just without AA. you should still be able to play very high at an hd resolution at 30fps

I have a 8800 GTX and I can run the game at 1280x1024 resolution, no AA, all Very High and average about 29FPS, which is suprisingly playable. A 9800 GT should be able to run slightly better.

exactly waht i was saying. i have the same specs as that pc but a 8800gt and play on all very high at that 720p res with No AA at 30fps

To whom it may concern, there aren't very many Crysis "very high" benchmarks. But THIS is quite extensive. organic_machine

thats amazingly bad that the gtx280 only gets 9 more avg fps than the 8800gt. and thats a bad benchmark. with an 8800gt i played this level earlier at very high with frames on and was seeing 25-37fps it got to 22 minimum

[QUOTE="lantus"]Does that machine max Crysis Warhead? What about the original Crysis?Ninja-Hippo

No. No current PC can max Crysis. It was made with future machines in mind. The PC from EA will run the game to a standard which looks amazing however; certainly better than anything on consoles.

Maxing is such a stupid term.. For the most part is almost impossible to max alot of pc games.. Why? Because there options that are inoptemized which if you activated it would make it go down to a snail regardless of your hardware.. The majority of those options are minscule changes that are barely noticable if at all.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]To whom it may concern, there aren't very many Crysis "very high" benchmarks. But THIS is quite extensive. blues35301

thats amazingly bad that the gtx280 only gets 9 more avg fps than the 8800gt. and thats a bad benchmark. with an 8800gt i played this level earlier at very high with frames on and was seeing 25-37fps it got to 22 minimum

Well Crysis isn't exactly optimized well, and in the other tests, there was a lot more difference.

this is a great freakin deal, I do wonder about the OS? I would hate to have to buy that as well. And unfortunately I don't have a monitor and will have to get that as well.

But 700 bucks for a pre-built computer that plays Crysis at 30 FPS on high? I'm sold. Saves me the hassle of trying to put it together and I can stop playing games on my laptop.

I believe nothing until I see benchmarks on that rig.

Hoobinator

All the milestone presentations we did for EA, for the [founding brothers] Yerlies, for the team, all the new prototypes, we showed on that machine."

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54613

2GB ram? yuck more than enough to max crysis

250gb storage? yuck sure its not the biggest drive but for gaming its pleanty

and dualcore 2.66GHz? yuck easily 4x the power of the 360's cpu and pleanty for crysis

That's supposed to be a Crysis machine? it will run crysis on high settings fine

SSCyborg

This machine gonna be upgradeable?SSCyborg

you can make a pc that isn't upgradalbe unless they spend lots of extra making exclusive mobs with special cpus and gpus soldered in, which isn't the case, yes it can be upgradable with any core 2 duo and most quads and any pcie gpu

Run Crysis at minimum?

I guess it's a good price at 700$ but the hardware is already kinda old.DireToad

yes its 3 years newer than what is in your brand spaking new ps3/x360

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

lawl Yorkfield lawl

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30576&vpn=BX80569Q9550&manufacture=Intel

SSCyborg

Because it's not something to yuck about?

then you should go yuck never going to touch the 360 again as its cpu is so slow you can't even buy a cpu that isn't a celeron that is as bad now. quads are for video editing are are pretty pointless for gaming since 2 core are unused. the e7300 is more than enough for crysis and leaves the 360 light years behind

To many flaws. Future upgrades kills this deal.

That case looks like it can't cool for **** and is probably to small to fit anything other than a 9800GT, or 8800GT GPU. The motherboard sounds crap, isn't good for OC'ing cpu's, and probably has minimal socket support. The PSU most likely has just enough power and although the CPU is decent for right now Core 2 Quads are starting to become the better deal. Also OS? Is 2GB of ram enough for Vista? Will it run Warhead at an average of 40FPS on high in DX10 at atleast 1280x1024?

Naw I'm good. Until GeOW2 and Ninja Gaiden 2(99.9% sure they won't) comes out for PC, I manage to fit a GPU that can run Crysis on High, no AA, DX10, at 1360x768 for 45FPS average without dipping below 30, and find an affordable cordless k/m setup made for gaming with excellent range, building a rig just ain't for me.

CB4McGusto

sure its not for enthusists, but does the average joe like those who buy ps3/x360 give a dam about that? nope, its aimed at those who don't know about pc hardware and don't want to pay a fortune to dell, hp etc

That computer is weak as S***! dream431ca

but it is easily 4x the power of any current console. it could beat ps3 and x360 combined

If anyone wants to get into the broader spectrum of high end PC gaming, and doesent want to fiddle or worry about hardware its the way to go.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="lantus"]Does that machine max Crysis Warhead? What about the original Crysis?sSubZerOo

No. No current PC can max Crysis. It was made with future machines in mind. The PC from EA will run the game to a standard which looks amazing however; certainly better than anything on consoles.

Maxing is such a stupid term.. For the most part is almost impossible to max alot of pc games.. Why? Because there options that are inoptemized which if you activated it would make it go down to a snail regardless of your hardware.. The majority of those options are minscule changes that are barely noticable if at all.

Not just that but "maxing" Crysis is rediculous....

2560x1600 resolution and x16AA are options.

Enabling those two settings is insane. Those were added for the SOLE purpose ot making it scalable in the future.

To think that ANY console gamer expects a game that looks as good as Crysis to be able to run at a massive resolution with x12 more AA than the highest console games can do... I'd ask where they buy their drugs.

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

I believe nothing until I see benchmarks on that rig.

mastershake575

8800 GTS 640MB is only playable at DX9, High Settings, at 1024x768 resolution, which is below 720p. Average 30fps.

Source 1 Benchmark.

DX9, 1280x1024, slightly higher than 720p. Shaders, Shadow, Post Processing all at MEDIUM. Everything else on HIGH. Average 33fps.

Source 2 Benchmark.

Crysis just about runs okay at roughly 720p at mostly high, with some medium settings on a 8800 GTS 640MB. And a 9800GT is only a small improvement, it's not really a step up from an 8800GT. So yeah I think we should wait for benchmarks before accepting Cryteks or EA's word. They've been known to exaggerate before. Remember Crysis gets steadily more unplayable in the later levels.

Warhead is more optimised but at the same time is bound to be pushing the hardware at the higher levels even more.

1280x720 = 720p as it is commonly referred to now. 921,000 pixels.

1024x768 is lower than 720p. 786,000 pixels.

Yes 720p is a bit higher than 1024x768.

I win.

[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="blues35301"]

[QUOTE="lesner87"]Yea rite what a BS topic ! I have the exact same rig.Except my Graphic card is better (9800GTX) still cant play Crysis maxed out on a 30+ average frame rate.blues35301

yes you can just without AA. you should still be able to play very high at an hd resolution at 30fps

I have a 8800 GTX and I can run the game at 1280x1024 resolution, no AA, all Very High and average about 29FPS, which is suprisingly playable. A 9800 GT should be able to run slightly better.

exactly waht i was saying. i have the same specs as that pc but a 8800gt and play on all very high at that 720p res with No AA at 30fps

I have a worse CPU (OC to 3Ghz), with an 8800GT (OCed) and I can run the demo at 1440x900 with everything on high at 35-40 FPs average. I tried it without CPU OC (2Ghz) and the FPS took a nosedive (25-30) so make of that what you will.

I have a worse CPU (OC to 3Ghz), with an 8800GT (OCed) and I can run the demo at 1440x900 with everything on high at 35-40 FPs average. I tried it without CPU OC (2Ghz) and the FPS took a nosedive (25-30) so make of that what you will.Philmon

the demo runs 6-7 FPS slower than the retail game does now, and also there was a multi-core bug with it where it only used one core.

Now it uses as many cores as you have.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

I believe nothing until I see benchmarks on that rig.

Hoobinator

8800 GTS 640MB is only playable at DX9, High Settings, at 1024x768 resolution, which is below 720p. Average 30fps.

Source 1 Benchmark.

DX9, 1280x1024, slightly higher than 720p. Shaders, Shadow, Post Processing all at MEDIUM. Everything else on HIGH. Average 33fps.

Source 2 Benchmark.

Crysis just about runs okay at roughly 720p at mostly high, with some medium settings on a 8800 GTS 640MB. And a 9800GT is only a small improvement, it's not really a step up from an 8800GT. So yeah I think we should wait for benchmarks before accepting Cryteks or EA's word. They've been known to exaggerate before. Remember Crysis gets steadily more unplayable in the later levels.

Warhead is more optimised but at the same time is bound to be pushing the hardware at the higher levels even more.

Won't play Crysis on settings too much higher than a console but its a start for PC Gaming : )MegaManZXY

where are posts like this coming from??? Are you insane or just have no idea what you're talking about? Crysis on medium looks better than the majority of console games and this rig will run crysis at very high at 720p res at 30fps. put it down to high where it still demolishes console games and youd get around 40fps

Won't play Crysis on settings too much higher than a console but its a start for PC Gaming : )MegaManZXY

and now to put an end to posts like these above ^

Crysis on a c2d (2.66ghz) 2gig ram, 8800gt (slightly lesser video card, almost equal)

very high everything, 720p res. notice the text in the top right corner, 33fps (it even states very high spec for doubters)

note there are a lot of jags in the picture because its been compressed and resized but in game the jaggies arent even there. its just a bad screenshot but the proof is in the text in the corner

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

I believe nothing until I see benchmarks on that rig.

Hoobinator

8800 GTS 640MB is only playable at DX9, High Settings, at 1024x768 resolution, which is below 720p. Average 30fps.

Source 1 Benchmark.

DX9, 1280x1024, slightly higher than 720p. Shaders, Shadow, Post Processing all at MEDIUM. Everything else on HIGH. Average 33fps.

Source 2 Benchmark.

Crysis just about runs okay at roughly 720p at mostly high, with some medium settings on a 8800 GTS 640MB. And a 9800GT is only a small improvement, it's not really a step up from an 8800GT. So yeah I think we should wait for benchmarks before accepting Cryteks or EA's word. They've been known to exaggerate before. Remember Crysis gets steadily more unplayable in the later levels.

Warhead is more optimised but at the same time is bound to be pushing the hardware at the higher levels even more.

1280x720 = 720p as it is commonly referred to now. 921,000 pixels.

1024x768 is lower than 720p. 786,000 pixels.

Yes 720p is a bit higher than 1024x768.

I win.

So basically your whole main point failed miserably and you missinterperted my statement so I wouldn't be so sure as to call that a win....