EA is NOW THE OWNER OF MASS EFFECT

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]

Now Cows can get a piece of the WRPG action

nikolajz1

if they have a 360.

What, you don't think that EA would port Bioware's games to every single system they can? If so then why are the lemmings so panicked?

Because BioWare's FOLLOWUP games can now go to the PS3 and PC. The first ME game will still be 360-exclusive (or at least 360/PC exclusive)

Ok so Microsoft has a contract to publish the Mass Effect games for the x360, there isn't anything stopping EA from publishing their own games for everything other than the x360.

[QUOTE="nikolajz1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]

Now Cows can get a piece of the WRPG action

mikemil828

if they have a 360.

What, you don't think that EA would port Bioware's games to every single system they can? If so then why are the lemmings so panicked?

Because BioWare's FOLLOWUP games can now go to the PS3 and PC. The first ME game will still be 360-exclusive (or at least 360/PC exclusive)

Ok so Microsoft has a contract to publish the Mass Effect games for the x360, there isn't anything stopping EA from publishing their own games for everything other than the x360.

Publish != Own, don't get this confused, MS OWNS PGR, MS OWNS Halo, MS DOES NOT OWN Mass Effect.

but but.....ME is the boring overrated rpg..........cows dont want itDante2710

:lol:

So true!

"But ME is a shooter".

Don't forget that one.

P.S.

Even if EA did decide to make ME on PS3. It will be 1-3 years before they finally port it.

More waiting for the "Cows".

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?fistoflight

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

[QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="kevbo77"][QUOTE="acegunslinger"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

MS is still the publisher so there are agreements in place already.

But can EA publish a PS3 version ? Thats the question.

Nagidar

Yes, they will own the rights to the game. Also, any contractual obligations may be voided once EA acquires Bioware in January.

I'm guessing you're not a lawyer, because that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Just because a company transfers ownership doesn't mean that any existing contracts with other parties are null and void. If you thought about your statement a little bit you'd realize what a legal nightmare that would be. Cerberus, after buying Chrysler, could say to all of its labor union employees, "oh sorry, but you know that contract that your union had with us, well we're going to void that contract."

So, as you can see, you don't know what you're talking about.

Here Mr. Lawyer, from the damn site:

"MASS EFFECT © 2003-2007 BioWare Corp. Mass Effect, BioWare Corp., the BioWare Corp. logo, BioWare and the BioWare logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of BioWare Corp. in the United States and other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. All rights reserved.

Microsoft, the Microsoft Game Studios logo, Xbox 360, and the Xbox 360 logos are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corp. in the United States and other countries."

Meaningless statement, Bioware has to cite Microsoft if they use one of their trademarks

No, if MS owned ME, MS would have been included in the first part.

Thanks for adding to my statement, of course it wouldn't be apart of the first clause because Microsoft doesn't have copywright over the game, but the website does use one of Microsoft's trademarks thus the second statement.

[QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="nikolajz1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]

Now Cows can get a piece of the WRPG action

Nagidar

if they have a 360.

What, you don't think that EA would port Bioware's games to every single system they can? If so then why are the lemmings so panicked?

Because BioWare's FOLLOWUP games can now go to the PS3 and PC. The first ME game will still be 360-exclusive (or at least 360/PC exclusive)

Ok so Microsoft has a contract to publish the Mass Effect games for the x360, there isn't anything stopping EA from publishing their own games for everything other than the x360.

Publish != Own, don't get this confused, MS OWNS PGR, MS OWNS Halo, MS DOES NOT OWN Mass Effect.

And.that.is.exactly.what.I'm.saying. Quit repeating me

[QUOTE="nikolajz1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]

mikemil828

Because BioWare's FOLLOWUP games can now go to the PS3 and PC. The first ME game will still be 360-exclusive (or at least 360/PC exclusive)

Ok so Microsoft has a contract to publish the Mass Effect games for the x360, there isn't anything stopping EA from publishing their own games for everything other than the x360.

Exactly....Microsoft is publishing ME, but EA now OWNS it. Therefore, they can publish it under their own brand name where ever the hell they please....because they OWN it, lol. Why is this so hard for some to grasp?

Well there goes the awesome Mass Effect Trilogy....F*** EAApocalypseXIVV

[QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?ironcreed

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

If BioWare made a deal with Microsoft to exclusively publish a Mass Effect trilogy ONLY for the 360, then the EA buyout wouldn't void that deal.

But I doubt such a deal exists. I think BioWare only planned for three games, but didn't actually commit to three games.

[QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"]Well there goes the awesome Mass Effect Trilogy....F*** EADreams-Visions

Them, too, but yes, BioWare planned ME out as a trilogy.

[QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="nikolajz1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]

ironcreed

Because BioWare's FOLLOWUP games can now go to the PS3 and PC. The first ME game will still be 360-exclusive (or at least 360/PC exclusive)

Ok so Microsoft has a contract to publish the Mass Effect games for the x360, there isn't anything stopping EA from publishing their own games for everything other than the x360.

Exactly....Microsoft is publishing ME, but EA now OWNS it. Therefore, they can publish it under their own brand name where ever the hell they please....because they OWN it, lol. Why is this so hard for some to grasp?

Because it is a complicated matter, and not everyone is right or clear.

game over man! game over :cry:Dreams-Visions

I'm broken, I really am, my girlfriend wants to play Halo 3 with me and I just sit here staring at the screen...what's wrong with me?! Why does this hurt so badly?! Ugh I feel like I just got *%&#(* dumped!!! I need rehab...

Not joking...at all...

:|

[QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?ironcreed

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"]Well there goes the awesome Mass Effect Trilogy....F*** EAmjarantilla

Them, too, but yes, BioWare planned ME out as a trilogy.

:shock:

Imagine that...

Mass Effect - X360

Massive Effect - PS3

Massless Effect - Wii

Mas - DS

:(

[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?mjarantilla

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

If BioWare made a deal with Microsoft to exclusively publish a Mass Effect trilogy ONLY for the 360, then the EA buyout wouldn't void that deal.

But I doubt such a deal exists. I think BioWare only planned for three games, but didn't actually commit to three games.

Well, even if there is an exclusivity deal, I think there would be an out clause in there. Some thing like, "If a publisher buys Bioware and willingly takes on publishing duties, then the deal is void." Some thing to that effect. If EA is really interested in Mass Effect, I can't see them allowing it to appear exclusively for the 360. They'll try to maximize profits and release it on other systems.

2k Games published Oblivion.

mjarantilla

Good point... somebody lied to me. :evil:

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]game over man! game over :cry:TheSystemLord1

I'm broken, I really am, my girlfriend wants to play Halo 3 with me and I just sit here staring at the screen...what's wrong with me?! Why does this hurt so badly?! Ugh I feel like I just got *%&#(* dumped!!! I need rehab...

Not joking...at all...

:|

I feel you, bro. A foggy day for gaming, at best.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?nikolajz1

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

I'm might be wrong about this, but if I am just igrnore thise, but as far as I can tell from this contract they have exclusive rights of publishing the trilogy for the 360, now that EA owns Bioware which owns Mass Effect, they could technically (but no likely) publish Mass Effect for PC, PS3 under EA themselves.

[QUOTE="nikolajz1"][QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?dackchaar

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

I'm might be wrong about this, but if I am just igrnore thise, but as far as I can tell from this contract they have exclusive rights of publishing the trilogy for the 360, now that EA owns Bioware which owns Mass Effect, they could technically (but no likely) publish Mass Effect for PC, PS3 under EA themselves.

No, not if there's an exclusivity agreement between BioWare and MS already. Which there most likely is.

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[QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

No, if MS owned ME, MS would have been included in the first part.

Nagidar

Thanks for adding to my statement, of course it wouldn't be apart of the first clause because Microsoft doesn't have copywright over the game, but the website does use one of Microsoft's trademarks thus the second statement.

Are you not reading this? Take the fanboy goggles off for a minute, the second part of that, ONLY refers to "Microsoft Game Studios logo, Xbox 360, and the Xbox 360 logos " You read that? its in there for MS LOGOS.

The first part, clearly states "MASS EFFECT © 2003-2007 BioWare Corp. Mass Effect, BioWare Corp., the BioWare Corp. logo, BioWare and the BioWare logo " See that bold? Thats right, BioWare owns Mass Effect, not just the logo.

:|

Pal, you need to take a break from system wars for a bit, you are imagining that I am somehow disagreeing with you when I am not.

[QUOTE="dackchaar"][QUOTE="nikolajz1"][QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?mjarantilla

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

I'm might be wrong about this, but if I am just igrnore thise, but as far as I can tell from this contract they have exclusive rights of publishing the trilogy for the 360, now that EA owns Bioware which owns Mass Effect, they could technically (but no likely) publish Mass Effect for PC, PS3 under EA themselves.

No, not if there's an exclusivity agreement between BioWare and MS already. Which there most likely is.

If thats true, than BioWare disclosure on the BioWare web site is wrong, it should include MS as the Copyright and Trademark holders and it doesn't.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?Zhengi

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

If BioWare made a deal with Microsoft to exclusively publish a Mass Effect trilogy ONLY for the 360, then the EA buyout wouldn't void that deal.

But I doubt such a deal exists. I think BioWare only planned for three games, but didn't actually commit to three games.

Well, even if there is an exclusivity deal, I think there would be an out clause in there. Some thing like, "If a publisher buys Bioware and willingly takes on publishing duties, then the deal is void." Some thing to that effect. If EA is really interested in Mass Effect, I can't see them allowing it to appear exclusively for the 360. They'll try to maximize profits and release it on other systems.

Why would MS even allow a clause like that? At worst, there's some kind of contingency clause with even MORE verbage that would cover what happens in that situation, or else EA talked directly with Microsoft, but there isn't a straight-up "If someone else buys you, you can skip off on all our money" clause. Remember, the PUBLISHER pays for development. Microsoft has funded Mass Effect this whole time, not BioWare.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

No, if MS owned ME, MS would have been included in the first part.

mikemil828

Thanks for adding to my statement, of course it wouldn't be apart of the first clause because Microsoft doesn't have copywright over the game, but the website does use one of Microsoft's trademarks thus the second statement.

Are you not reading this? Take the fanboy goggles off for a minute, the second part of that, ONLY refers to "Microsoft Game Studios logo, Xbox 360, and the Xbox 360 logos " You read that? its in there for MS LOGOS.

The first part, clearly states "MASS EFFECT © 2003-2007 BioWare Corp. Mass Effect, BioWare Corp., the BioWare Corp. logo, BioWare and the BioWare logo " See that bold? Thats right, BioWare owns Mass Effect, not just the logo.

:|

Pal, you need to take a break from system wars for a bit, you are imagining that I am somehow disagreeing with you when I am not.

Crap, I quoted the wrong person... my bad. I'll delete it.

but but.....ME is the boring overrated rpg..........cows dont want itDante2710

Why would they when Squarenix is going tokeep those Final Fantasy's as PS3exclusives?

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="dackchaar"][QUOTE="nikolajz1"][QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?Nagidar

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

I'm might be wrong about this, but if I am just igrnore thise, but as far as I can tell from this contract they have exclusive rights of publishing the trilogy for the 360, now that EA owns Bioware which owns Mass Effect, they could technically (but no likely) publish Mass Effect for PC, PS3 under EA themselves.

No, not if there's an exclusivity agreement between BioWare and MS already. Which there most likely is.

If thats true, than BioWare disclosure on the BioWare web site is wrong, it should include MS as the Copyright and Trademark holders and it doesn't.

Link?

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

If thats true, than BioWare disclosure on the BioWare web site is wrong, it should include MS as the Copyright and Trademark holders and it doesn't.

mjarantilla

Link?

http://masseffect.bioware.com/legal/copyright.html

Bottom of the page.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?mjarantilla

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

If BioWare made a deal with Microsoft to exclusively publish a Mass Effect trilogy ONLY for the 360, then the EA buyout wouldn't void that deal.

But I doubt such a deal exists. I think BioWare only planned for three games, but didn't actually commit to three games.

Well, even if there is an exclusivity deal, I think there would be an out clause in there. Some thing like, "If a publisher buys Bioware and willingly takes on publishing duties, then the deal is void." Some thing to that effect. If EA is really interested in Mass Effect, I can't see them allowing it to appear exclusively for the 360. They'll try to maximize profits and release it on other systems.

Why would MS even allow a clause like that? At worst, there's some kind of contingency clause with even MORE verbage that would cover what happens in that situation, or else EA talked directly with Microsoft, but there isn't a straight-up "If someone else buys you, you can skip off on all our money" clause. Remember, the PUBLISHER pays for development. Microsoft has funded Mass Effect this whole time, not BioWare.

Because they were probably thinking that they would be able tobuy Bioware before EA could, oh well.

Why would MS even allow a clause like that? At worst, there's some kind of contingency clause with even MORE verbage that would cover what happens in that situation, or else EA talked directly with Microsoft, but there isn't a straight-up "If someone else buys you, you can skip off on all our money" clause. Remember, the PUBLISHER pays for development. Microsoft has funded Mass Effect this whole time, not BioWare. mjarantilla

MS is not paying for Mass Effect. They're paying for publishing and marketing it. That's it. Bioware funds the project themselves. The only way MS would fund the game is if there was a moneyhatting deal or if they owned Bioware, which they do not. With EA having possession of ME as their property now, MS is no longer needed as a publisher. EA can publish the game themselves now.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]If thats true, than BioWare disclosure on the BioWare web site is wrong, it should include MS as the Copyright and Trademark holders and it doesn't.Nagidar

And what about Gears of War?

"© & (p) 2007 Epic Games, Inc. All rights reserved.

Gears of War, the Crimson Omen, Unreal, and the Epic Games logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Epic Games, Inc., in the United States and/or other countries.

Microsoft, the Microsoft Game Studios logo, Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox LIVE, and the Xbox logos are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or other countries.

The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners."

The exact same verbage. Copyright and trademark info doesn't indicate the existence or non-existence of an exclusivity agreement, only ownership. Like Halo 3:

"TRADEMARKS. Microsoft, Halo and/or other Microsoft products referenced herein are either trademarks or registered trademarks of Microsoft. The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners."

All we know is that BioWare owns Mass Effect. But we don't know if MS has an exclusivity agreement with them or not. Most likely they do, because Microsoft has been financing Mass Effect and will publish it.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="fistoflight"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]Isn't MS still publishing Mass Effect?nikolajz1

EA fully owns mass effect but i think microsoft is still publishing it.

Exactly. So by any chance there ever was a Mass Effect port to the PS3, since EA fully owns the property now, they would just publish it under their name. Since ME is out this November, if there was ever a PS3 port, it would be quite a ways off.

I have it preordered for the 360 anyways, but we shall see I suppose. We all know EA is synonomous with the term MULTIPLAT, lol.

Yes, I am aware of how a contract works, but can you show me proof that the 360 is guaranteed exclusive rights to 3 Mass Effect games? Microsoft is publishing Mass Effect, but they do not own it....EA now does as of today.

Publish does not equal own. And beings that EA now OWNS the Mass Effect property in total, they can publish it under their label wherever they please....Unless Microsoft is guaranteed by contract exclusivity for 3 games as you said. Even then the deal was made with Bioware, who, along with Mass Effect...is now of course OWNED by EA. So we shall see what happens.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]If thats true, than BioWare disclosure on the BioWare web site is wrong, it should include MS as the Copyright and Trademark holders and it doesn't.mjarantilla

And what about Gears of War?

"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.

Great now I have another less reason to own a 360 :)

Only game I'd like to pick up left now that is exclusive to the platform is Halo 3... But who knows it might end up a PC port 2 years from now :P

Gears of War is comming to PC... ME has a BIG chance now thanks to EA.. Feels good to be a hermit these days :)

"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Nagidar

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.mjarantilla

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Nagidar

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Right. Now watch EA spam KOTOR series with spin-offs and multiplat treatment :P